[gentoo-user] Re: Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-21 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Saturday 21 January 2012, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 01/20/2012 09:42 PM, Grant wrote: # emerge -avDuN system [snip] !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-auth/pambase-20081028 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: -

Re: [gentoo-user] System shuts off on boot-up

2012-01-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:57:31 -0800 (PST), BRM wrote: As the system starts to boot-up, it switches like it is going to start X - changing a video mode somehow. I don't have xdm in the runlevels yet, so it can't be starting XDM at all.This seems to happen right after udevd is started, while it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage option --changed-use not working?

2012-01-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:00:52 -0600 »Q« boxc...@gmx.net wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:06:22 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: I suspect this is specific to the KDE ebuilds (or eclass). changed-use should only skip an ebuild with changed flags if re-emerging would produce

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-21 Thread James Broadhead
On 21 January 2012 04:48, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: # emerge -avDuN system [snip] !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-auth/pambase-20081028 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - sys-auth/pambase-20101024-r1 (masked by:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Link-local ipv6 address in /etc/hosts? in browsers?

2012-01-21 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-01-19, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: Do you really want that much broadcast and wide multicast (think DNS-SD and NTP in multicast mode) traffic on the same Ethernet segment? That bit I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-21 Thread Grant
# emerge -avDuN system [snip] !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-auth/pambase-20081028 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - sys-auth/pambase-20101024-r1 (masked by: EAPI 4) - sys-auth/pambase-20101024 (masked by: EAPI 3)

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-21 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/20/2012 11:48 PM, Grant wrote: You don't have to do the entire stage3 at once, http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/ has precompiled packages for the major arches and profiles. You could try to replace just pambase, pam, python, etc. -- whatever's giving you trouble. This was not my first

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-21 Thread Grant
# emerge -avDuN system [snip] !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-auth/pambase-20081028 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - sys-auth/pambase-20101024-r1 (masked by: EAPI 4) - sys-auth/pambase-20101024 (masked by: EAPI 3)

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-21 Thread Daniel da Veiga
If its not being used and outage is not a problem, I would recommend reinstalling. I'm against doying it, but 2 years is a lot, if you have any servers (MySQL, PHP) it would be an issue, you'll have MAJOR changes to X, OpenRC and I'm not even talking about the kernel, udev, etc. I would back it

Re: [gentoo-user] Good 'layman' tutorial on IPv4 IPv6?

2012-01-21 Thread Chris Frederick
On Jan 20, 2012, at 9:36 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:45:08AM -0600, Chris Frederick wrote If you still want private addresses, IPv6 has unique local addresses (fc00::/7 range, http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/ula/ has a reg form to help assign a /48

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-21 Thread Stroller
On 20 January 2012, at 23:58, Grant wrote: OK, so the install is old and portage has dependencies, right? emerge -pvDuN portage will get you closer. However this is probably best covered using Neil's suggestion of emerge -pvDuN @system I can't even get started: # emerge -avDuN

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-21 Thread Chris Walters
On 1/21/2012 01:56 PM, Daniel da Veiga wrote: If its not being used and outage is not a problem, I would recommend reinstalling. I'm against doying it, but 2 years is a lot, if you have any servers (MySQL, PHP) it would be an issue, you'll have MAJOR changes to X, OpenRC and I'm not even

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:57:32 -0800, Grant wrote: If your currently installed version of python reported by python -V is less than 2.6 then you must choose a version of portage that is compatible with it. If you have at least python 2.6 then use portage-2.1.10.41.tar.bz2. If you have python

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-21 Thread Grant
If your currently installed version of python reported by python -V is less than 2.6 then you must choose a version of portage that is compatible with it. If you have at least python 2.6 then use portage-2.1.10.41.tar.bz2. If you have python 2.4 or 2.5 then use portage-2.1.6.tar.bz2. I get:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage option --changed-use not working?

2012-01-21 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On 21 January 2012 03:26, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:00:52 -0600 »Q« boxc...@gmx.net wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:06:22 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: I suspect this is specific to the KDE ebuilds (or eclass). changed-use should

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage option --changed-use not working?

2012-01-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:45:25 -0800 Hilco Wijbenga hilco.wijbe...@gmail.com wrote: But is this not a case where the kde eclass *explictly* set the USE flag off? (Disclaimer: haven't read the eclass). In that case portage would not know what to do when the flag goes away so the behaviour we

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage option --changed-use not working?

2012-01-21 Thread »Q«
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:26:45 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: --changed-use is intended for cases like a flag you are not using at all goes away. Caveat: Even then it could still break in subtle ways with dodgy ebuilds. Caveat emptor. Thanks for the points you've made about

[gentoo-user] Re: For those who complain

2012-01-21 Thread »Q«
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:51:01 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: So, it was a bug and Zac is fixing it. Sometimes when people complain, it is because something is not working as it should. I never saw Hilco as complaining, just questioning. And in the post you quoted (and which I've

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: For those who complain

2012-01-21 Thread Dale
»Q« wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:51:01 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: So, it was a bug and Zac is fixing it. Sometimes when people complain, it is because something is not working as it should. I never saw Hilco as complaining, just questioning. And in the post you quoted (and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage option --changed-use not working?

2012-01-21 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 08:23:18PM -0600, ??Q?? wrote Thanks for the points you've made about how removal of a flag a user doesn't have enabled could still affect the user. I think I'll still use --changed-use routinely and also periodically run an update with --newuse. What's the longest

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage option --changed-use not working?

2012-01-21 Thread »Q«
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 23:34:52 -0500 Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 08:23:18PM -0600, ??Q?? wrote Thanks for the points you've made about how removal of a flag a user doesn't have enabled could still affect the user. I think I'll still use --changed-use

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Link-local ipv6 address in /etc/hosts? in browsers?

2012-01-21 Thread Walter Dnes
I think it comes down to a question of whether you're running a few machines at home or small office, versus a large multinational outfit with tens of thousands of machines. On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 09:27:29AM -0500, Michael Mol wrote Thinking about it, in your device's case, I suspect you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage option --changed-use not working?

2012-01-21 Thread Dale
»Q« wrote: On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 23:34:52 -0500 Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 08:23:18PM -0600, ??Q?? wrote Thanks for the points you've made about how removal of a flag a user doesn't have enabled could still affect the user. I think I'll still use