Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

2012-03-16 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 03:41:01 PM Michael Mol wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: Snipped Again, read about devfs. Tighly coupling is the path the developers (in general) are taking. I agree with them. I remember devfs. Never wound

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

2012-03-16 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:59:30 PM Pandu Poluan wrote: On Mar 14, 2012 10:30 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Or asked another way - Why is LVM2 incapable od using mdev? Alan has explained

Re: [gentoo-user] mdev + xorg + Gnome up and running. :-)

2012-03-16 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 08:41:48AM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote Hmmm... are you planning to host an overlay? If so, I'll be willing to donate some of my time to provide some patched ebuilds for packages that can function without udev but lazily specify DEPEND=sys-fs/udev... I wouldn't call

Re: [gentoo-user] mdev + xorg + Gnome up and running. :-)

2012-03-16 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 14:32, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 08:41:48AM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote Hmmm... are you planning to host an overlay? If so, I'll be willing to donate some of my time to provide some patched ebuilds for packages that can

Re: [gentoo-user] mdev + xorg + Gnome up and running. :-)

2012-03-16 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Friday, March 16, 2012 02:54:16 PM Pandu Poluan wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 14:32, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 08:41:48AM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote Hmmm... are you planning to host an overlay? If so, I'll be willing to donate some of my

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

2012-03-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:13:46 +0100, Joost Roeleveld wrote: Auto-starting programs when a device is added. Great, when are we getting autostart support for CDs and USB-keys and under which user-account will these be executed? This is for running programs from the computer against the device,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 06:39:44 +0100, Joost Roeleveld wrote: Technically, we are all using an initramfs as all 2.6/3 kernels mount an initramfs when they load. If does not contain an init script, they fall back to the legacy behaviour. See

[gentoo-user] decrypt a use flag - how to

2012-03-16 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, when I do emerge -vp sys-libs/glibc I see the use flag(-nls%*) What are these special characters '(' '%' and '*' about? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut.

Re: [gentoo-user] mdev + xorg + Gnome up and running. :-)

2012-03-16 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 15:41, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Friday, March 16, 2012 02:54:16 PM Pandu Poluan wrote: What I have in mind for helper scripts would be (for example) a script to ensure that, on boot, ethernet devices will maintain their relative order. This needs to

Re: [gentoo-user] decrypt a use flag - how to

2012-03-16 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 15:54, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, when I do emerge -vp sys-libs/glibc I see the use flag    (-nls%*) What are these special characters '(' '%' and '*' about? man emerge contains the complete information, search for % ;-) But, in a

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager-0.9.1 broken?

2012-03-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Solved with patch from: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329987

[gentoo-user] gentoo on compiz problems

2012-03-16 Thread Tamer Higazi
Hi! I am running a stable port of gentoo with gnome 2.31.1 and I want to run compiz. How do I run compiz proparly?! I am pretty sure, that I do something wrong. For any advise, I would thank you. Tamer When I open gnome-terminal (shell) and run compiz-manager I get the following output:

Re: [gentoo-user] mdev + xorg + Gnome up and running. :-)

2012-03-16 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Walter. On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 08:55:53PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 04:17:14AM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote Hi, Gentoo. Yes, I've got Gnome going under mdev. Thanks to Mike Edenfield for the tip about needing to configure things in xorg.conf. Here's how

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I trigger kernel panic?

2012-03-16 Thread Dale
Claudio Roberto França Pereira wrote: Just to be sure, r e i s u b may be input in low case, without shift, right? Like hold Alt + SysRq and type r e i s u b then release Alt + SysRq? As the most experienced user of SysReq, that is correct. Thank hal for all the experience too. That

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo on compiz problems

2012-03-16 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Tamer Higazi th9...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi! I am running a stable port of gentoo with gnome 2.31.1 and I want to run compiz. How do I run compiz proparly?! I am pretty sure, that I do something wrong. For any advise, I would thank you. Tamer When I

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

2012-03-16 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Friday, March 16, 2012 08:46:05 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:13:46 +0100, Joost Roeleveld wrote: Auto-starting programs when a device is added. Great, when are we getting autostart support for CDs and USB-keys and under which user-account will these be executed? This

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo on compiz problems

2012-03-16 Thread Tamer Higazi
Hi Nilesh! Am 16.03.2012 13:49, schrieb Nilesh Govindrajan: I think you need to be present in the video group. I am; Clearly the problem is because access is denied to your video card. Just ls -l /dev/nvidiactl (you should see group video there) tamer@office ~ $ ls -lA /dev/nvidiactl

Re: [gentoo-user] How are Fn-F# ACPI events mapped?

2012-03-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:27 AM, YoYo Siska y...@gl.ksp.sk wrote: On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 03:23:28PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi,    I'm trying to figure out how my Asus laptop maps function key events. This is being driven by an emerge message telling me that the acpi4asus package is being

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Backlight problems

2012-03-16 Thread Grant
On my just-released Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook, I can control the backlight with 'xbacklight -set 0' and 'xbacklight -set 100'.  Any other values cause the screen to blink and flash.  The keyboard backlight shortcuts don't work unless I map them to xbacklight 0 and 100.  Also xbacklight doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-16 Thread Dale
Mike Edenfield wrote: From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] This has been one of my points too. I could go out and buy me a bluetooth mouse/keyboard but I don't because it to complicates matters. I had a long reply to Walt that I (probably wisely) decided not to send, but the basic

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Backlight problems

2012-03-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: On my just-released Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook, I can control the backlight with 'xbacklight -set 0' and 'xbacklight -set 100'.  Any other values cause the screen to blink and flash.  The keyboard backlight shortcuts don't work

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Backlight problems

2012-03-16 Thread Grant
On my just-released Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook, I can control the backlight with 'xbacklight -set 0' and 'xbacklight -set 100'.  Any other values cause the screen to blink and flash.  The keyboard backlight shortcuts don't work unless I map them to xbacklight 0 and 100.  Also xbacklight doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Backlight problems

2012-03-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Grant,   Sorry I missed this thread earlier. I've got an Asus 17 laptop that I've been trying unsuccessfully to get the keyboard backlighting to work correctly for weeks (maybe months - I no longer remember how long) On

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Backlight problems

2012-03-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP   acpi_listen on n-ArrowUp/Dn does produce a response so maybe I don't have something properly mapped? SNIP It seems that on this Asus laptop the Fn-Arrow keys are mapped to audio events of some type. (Reading xev

[gentoo-user] To mount or not to Mount proc, that is the question

2012-03-16 Thread Mark Knecht
I've been trying to debug a problem where one laptop's networking, as controlled by wicd, seems to randomly go offline once in awhile. In the process of reviewing 5 machines I ran across an inconsistency across a bunch of my machines, new and old. It seems some of them mount proc in fstab while

Re: [gentoo-user] To mount or not to Mount proc, that is the question

2012-03-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying to debug a problem where one laptop's networking, as controlled by wicd, seems to randomly go offline once in awhile. In the process of reviewing 5 machines I ran across an inconsistency across a bunch of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Backlight problems

2012-03-16 Thread Grant
[snip] Hey Mark, I'm happy to say I just fixed the screen backlighting on my system, but I'm sorry to say I don't think it will help you with keyboard backlighting.  To fix it, I removed 'acpi_backlight=vendor' from grub and added 'echo 0 /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness' to

[gentoo-user] Where does /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight come from?

2012-03-16 Thread Grant
Does anyone know which kernel option would be responsible for /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight? I've disabled some backlight stuff in the kernel but the directory still appears. I get screen backlight control on my laptop if I do: echo 0 /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness but

Re: [gentoo-user] Where does /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight come from?

2012-03-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know which kernel option would be responsible for /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight?  I've disabled some backlight stuff in the kernel but the directory still appears.  I get screen backlight control on my laptop

Re: [gentoo-user] To mount or not to Mount proc, that is the question

2012-03-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Looking at the Gentoo amd64 install guide here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=8 it appears that the

Re: [gentoo-user] Where does /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight come from?

2012-03-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know which kernel option would be responsible for /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight?  I've disabled some backlight stuff in the kernel but the directory still appears.  I get screen backlight control on my laptop

Re: [gentoo-user] To mount or not to Mount proc, that is the question

2012-03-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Looking at the Gentoo amd64 install guide here:

Re: [gentoo-user] To mount or not to Mount proc, that is the question

2012-03-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

2012-03-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 15:44:03 +0100, Joost Roeleveld wrote: This is for running programs from the computer against the device, not autorunning programs on the device - such as initialising USB modems. How long till autorunning programs becomes the next great thing on the desktop for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Backlight problems

2012-03-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 13:06:17 -0700, Grant wrote:   I do have baselayout1.start/stop stuff so it seems our systems are fairly different. My new install doesn't have them, but all of my old installs do have them and 'equery b /etc/local.d/baselayout1.start' comes back with nothing so I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Backlight problems

2012-03-16 Thread Grant
  I do have baselayout1.start/stop stuff so it seems our systems are fairly different. My new install doesn't have them, but all of my old installs do have them and 'equery b /etc/local.d/baselayout1.start' comes back with nothing so I don't think they're being installed anymore. They

Re: [gentoo-user] Where does /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight come from?

2012-03-16 Thread Grant
Does anyone know which kernel option would be responsible for /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight?  I've disabled some backlight stuff in the kernel but the directory still appears.  I get screen backlight control on my laptop if I do: echo 0 /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness

Re: [gentoo-user] Where does /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight come from?

2012-03-16 Thread Grant
Does anyone know which kernel option would be responsible for /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight?  I've disabled some backlight stuff in the kernel but the directory still appears.  I get screen backlight control on my laptop if I do: Probably from the intel video driver (i915 or whatever)

[gentoo-user] mdev for udev substitution instructions web page is up

2012-03-16 Thread Walter Dnes
The instructions for replacing udev with mdev are now up at http://www.waltdnes.org/mdev/ validator.w3.org complains about a couple of extensions I used, but it appears to work OK in both Firefox and Midori. Any comments from users of other browsers? The page will be permanently under

Re: [gentoo-user] mdev for udev substitution instructions web page is up

2012-03-16 Thread Dale
Walter Dnes wrote: The instructions for replacing udev with mdev are now up at http://www.waltdnes.org/mdev/ validator.w3.org complains about a couple of extensions I used, but it appears to work OK in both Firefox and Midori. Any comments from users of other browsers? The page will be

[gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-16 Thread Bruce Hill, Jr.
This item just appeared after eix-sync: HTPC ~ # eselect news read 2012-03-16-udev-181-unmasking Title udev-181 unmasking AuthorWilliam Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org Posted2012-03-16 Revision 1 udev-181 is being

Re: [gentoo-user] mdev for udev substitution instructions web page is up

2012-03-16 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 17, 2012 9:54 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: The instructions for replacing udev with mdev are now up at http://www.waltdnes.org/mdev/ validator.w3.org complains about a couple of extensions I used, but it appears to work OK in both Firefox and Midori. Any comments

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:  This item just appeared after eix-sync: HTPC ~ # eselect news read 2012-03-16-udev-181-unmasking  Title                     udev-181 unmasking  Author                    William Hubbs

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

2012-03-16 Thread Bruce Hill, Jr.
On March 14, 2012 at 1:22 PM Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: Alan, the vast majority of Linux users right now are phone users. At least, that's how I see it. Again, think about phones. And tablets. And TVs. And [insert-here-cool-gadgets-from-the-future]. Right now Linux

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

2012-03-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: On March 14, 2012 at 1:22 PM Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: Alan, the vast majority of Linux users right now are phone users. At least, that's how I see it. Again, think about phones.

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-16 Thread Bruce Hill, Jr.
-- On March 17, 2012 at 12:19 AM Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken Happy Computer Users (for now), systemd is on your horizon. Houston, we have a problem! You can always try Walter's et. al. mdev

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I trigger kernel panic?

2012-03-16 Thread Bruce Hill, Jr.
On March 14, 2012 at 2:41 PM ZHANG, Le r0be...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, my question might seem silly, but I have reason for it: I have heard there is way to auto-reboot linux after kernel panic using kernel.panic=time

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:  -- On March 17, 2012 at 12:19 AM Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken Happy Computer Users (for now), systemd is on

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-16 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 17, 2012 11:15 AM, Bruce Hill, Jr. da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: This item just appeared after eix-sync: HTPC ~ # eselect news read 2012-03-16-udev-181-unmasking Title udev-181 unmasking AuthorWilliam Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org