Re: [gentoo-user] uefi gpt grub2

2012-11-13 Thread Keith Dart
Re , j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk said: > I followed the Gentoo wiki and Arch wiki and several other sources > of which I failed miserably. Is this technology fairly unreliable? I > booted from a uefi enabled usb stick but still fell over. Is this > ready for mainstream or still alpha like? FWIW I hate

Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization

2012-11-13 Thread Dale
Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > LOL > > Now seriously: > > You should follow the discussion in -project. Someone (I forgot who > exactly) has made a personal commitment to within a month produce a > serviceable udev fork, at least a Proof of Concept. And IIRC, hwoarang > is going to 'test the waters' wit

Re: [gentoo-user] Unexpected Power Loss!

2012-11-13 Thread Dale
Willie wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Andrew Lowe <2505...@curtin.edu.au > > wrote: > > On 14/11/2012 8:42 AM, Willie wrote: > > Hey Everyone, > > I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now. It seems > that >

Re: [gentoo-user] Unexpected Power Loss!

2012-11-13 Thread Willie
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Andrew Lowe <2505...@curtin.edu.au> wrote: > On 14/11/2012 8:42 AM, Willie wrote: > >> Hey Everyone, >> >> I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now. It seems that >> whenever I am in Linux my computer will just turn off. Not shutdown like >> I did "shut

Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization

2012-11-13 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 14, 2012 10:02 AM, "Walter Dnes" wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:20:42PM -0600, Dale wrote > > > > Well, it appears we have someone willing to fork udev. Yeppie !! Me, > > I'm looking forward to seeing how this works and giving it a test run > > when it gets ready. Since it is a fo

Re: [gentoo-user] Unexpected Power Loss!

2012-11-13 Thread Andrew Lowe
On 14/11/2012 8:42 AM, Willie wrote: Hey Everyone, I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now. It seems that whenever I am in Linux my computer will just turn off. Not shutdown like I did "shutdown -r now". Just completely off out of the blue at random times. I have been reading the lo

Re: [gentoo-user] Unexpected Power Loss!

2012-11-13 Thread Dale
Bill Kenworthy wrote: > There is a thermal safety setting in the kernel somewhere ... it used to > do this to me when a cpu heatsink came adrift ... but the cpu had to get > quite hot to trigger it (was on an Intel core2) so it was ok until it > tried to do real work ... instant off. > > Try monito

Re: [gentoo-user] Unexpected Power Loss!

2012-11-13 Thread Willie
I will try monitoring the temp tomorrow. It will take me rebuilding the kernel, I know that I left everything for monitoring hardware out. As for the thermal compound. That was all changed yesterday. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > There is a thermal safety setting in th

Re: [gentoo-user] Unexpected Power Loss!

2012-11-13 Thread Willie
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Bruce Hill wrote: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 04:42:45PM -0800, Willie wrote: > > Hey Everyone, > > > > I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now. It seems that > > whenever I am in Linux my computer will just turn off. Not shutdown like > I > > did "shut

Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization

2012-11-13 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:20:42PM -0600, Dale wrote > > Well, it appears we have someone willing to fork udev. Yeppie !! Me, > I'm looking forward to seeing how this works and giving it a test run > when it gets ready. Since it is a fork, shouldn't be to long, I hope. Might even get me to c

Re: [gentoo-user] Unexpected Power Loss!

2012-11-13 Thread Bill Kenworthy
There is a thermal safety setting in the kernel somewhere ... it used to do this to me when a cpu heatsink came adrift ... but the cpu had to get quite hot to trigger it (was on an Intel core2) so it was ok until it tried to do real work ... instant off. Try monitoring the temperature. Also, cpu

Re: [gentoo-user] Unexpected Power Loss!

2012-11-13 Thread Willie
I think you might be on to something. Here in Vegas it gets to be about 50 at night and I like to have my window open. That is when it turns off the most. I have been using this computer for years with Windows and Ubuntu Linux and this is the first time it has started to happen. Do you know of any

Re: [gentoo-user] Unexpected Power Loss!

2012-11-13 Thread Willie
I thought about that one also. I didn't have any errors. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Sascha Cunz wrote: > > > I'm sure you will get lots of ideas on this one tho. There can be a lot > > of causes. > > RAM failure could be another one, which "could randomly vanish for a while > when using an

Re: [gentoo-user] Unexpected Power Loss!

2012-11-13 Thread Willie
I will be doing that tonight if I can get it to stay on long enough! :-) On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Bruce Hill wrote: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 04:42:45PM -0800, Willie wrote: > > Hey Everyone, > > > > I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now. It seems that > > whenever I am in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-13 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On 13 November 2012 15:08, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Dienstag, 13. November 2012, 16:57:14 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann >> >> wrote: >> > Am Dienstag, 13. November 2012, 15:45:11 schrieb Bruce Hill: >> >> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:2

Re: [gentoo-user] Unexpected Power Loss!

2012-11-13 Thread Willie
The same thing doesn't happen in Windows. So I am sure it is not over heating. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Andrew Hoffman wrote: > Sounds like it could be a hardware issue. Does it do the same thing inside > Windows? It might be overheating. Check for dust and proper cpu/powersupply > fan op

Re: [gentoo-user] Unexpected Power Loss!

2012-11-13 Thread Dale
Sascha Cunz wrote: >> I'm sure you will get lots of ideas on this one tho. There can be a lot >> of causes. > RAM failure could be another one, which "could randomly vanish for a while > when using another memory layout" (like in using another operating system). > > So, I'd suggest to boot up a m

Re: [gentoo-user] Unexpected Power Loss!

2012-11-13 Thread Sascha Cunz
> I'm sure you will get lots of ideas on this one tho. There can be a lot > of causes. RAM failure could be another one, which "could randomly vanish for a while when using another memory layout" (like in using another operating system). So, I'd suggest to boot up a memory tester and let it ru

Re: [gentoo-user] Unexpected Power Loss!

2012-11-13 Thread Dale
Willie wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now. It seems that > whenever I am in Linux my computer will just turn off. Not shutdown > like I did "shutdown -r now". Just completely off out of the blue at > random times. I have been reading the logs but there i

Re: [gentoo-user] Unexpected Power Loss!

2012-11-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 04:42:45PM -0800, Willie wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now. It seems that > whenever I am in Linux my computer will just turn off. Not shutdown like I > did "shutdown -r now". Just completely off out of the blue at random times.

Re: [gentoo-user] Unexpected Power Loss!

2012-11-13 Thread Andrew Hoffman
Sounds like it could be a hardware issue. Does it do the same thing inside Windows? It might be overheating. Check for dust and proper cpu/powersupply fan operation. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Willie wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now. It seems

[gentoo-user] Unexpected Power Loss!

2012-11-13 Thread Willie
Hey Everyone, I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now. It seems that whenever I am in Linux my computer will just turn off. Not shutdown like I did "shutdown -r now". Just completely off out of the blue at random times. I have been reading the logs but there is nothing helpful at all.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Dienstag, 13. November 2012, 16:57:14 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 13. November 2012, 15:45:11 schrieb Bruce Hill: > >> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:26:18PM +0100, Cr0k wrote: > >> > Hello, > >> > > >> > Can't y

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Dienstag, 13. November 2012, 15:45:11 schrieb Bruce Hill: >> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:26:18PM +0100, Cr0k wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > Can't you answer correctly to the mailing lists? Each one of your mails >> > goes into my stand

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Dienstag, 13. November 2012, 15:45:11 schrieb Bruce Hill: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:26:18PM +0100, Cr0k wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Can't you answer correctly to the mailing lists? Each one of your mails > > goes into my standard Mailbox, while I did a rule to make it goes to a > > gentoo-user

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:45:11 -0600 Bruce Hill wrote: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:26:18PM +0100, Cr0k wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > Can't you answer correctly to the mailing lists? Each one of your > > mails goes into my standard Mailbox, while I did a rule to make it > > goes to a gentoo-use

Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization

2012-11-13 Thread pk
On 2012-11-13 04:20, Dale wrote: > Well, it appears we have someone willing to fork udev. >Yeppie !! Me, I'm looking forward to seeing how this >works and giving it a test run when it gets ready. >Since it is a fork, shouldn't be to long, I hope. Beautiful news indeed! Thanks for the heads up

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:26:18PM +0100, Cr0k wrote: > > > Hello, > > Can't you answer correctly to the mailing lists? Each one of your mails goes > into my standard Mailbox, while I did a rule to make it goes to a gentoo-user > folder... > > Thanks. > > -- > Cr0k Can you learn to trim? ;

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-13 Thread Cr0k
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:30:57 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: > > Am Montag, 12. November 2012, 02:37:13 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > >> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Alan McKinnon > > wrote: > >> > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:17

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive change

2012-11-13 Thread Lukas Elsner
First of all I have to be sorry for this unprofessional overreaction and my unqualified comment. This really wasnt my week at all. I thought about what I said and recognized that this wasnt correct at all. I used my last hhd change to completely remerge my system and copy only the files I really n

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-11-13, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Montag, 12. November 2012, 23:03:08 schrieb Peter Humphrey: >> On Monday 12 November 2012 17:39:15 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> > ... more and more transformers are filled with non-oil coolants. >> >> That's interesting - what other substances are

Re: [gentoo-user] WLAN with fixed IP

2012-11-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:39:40AM +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > I'd like to assign fixed IP numbers to computers of a local network. > > Using dhcp as in > > modules="wpa_supplicant" > wpa_supplicant_wlan0="-Dwext -iwlan0" > config_wlan0="dhcp" > > works just fine but depends on dhcp fo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Montag, 12. November 2012, 02:37:13 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:17:50 -0600 >> > >> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 12. November 2012, 02:37:13 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:17:50 -0600 > > > > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Alan McKinnon > >> wrote: [snip] > >> > >> > In trying to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 12. November 2012, 23:03:08 schrieb Peter Humphrey: > On Monday 12 November 2012 17:39:15 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > ... more and more transformers are filled with non-oil coolants. > > That's interesting - what other substances are used instead these days? > In my day we had nothi

Re: [gentoo-user] WLAN with fixed IP

2012-11-13 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 13.11.2012 17:27, schrieb Bruce Hill: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 04:52:25PM +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > I'd like to assign fixed IP numbers to computers of a local map MAC addresses to IP addresses. > [...] > > If you just want to setup a static IP per machine, /etc/conf.d/n

Re: [gentoo-user] WLAN with fixed IP

2012-11-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 04:52:25PM +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > >> > >> > I'd like to assign fixed IP numbers to computers of a local > >> map MAC addresses to IP addresses. This is what your /etc/dhcp/dhcp.conf would look like on the router, or how it should be configured wherever DHCP is h

Re: [gentoo-user] WLAN with fixed IP

2012-11-13 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 11/13/2012 12:15:35 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 11/13/2012 11:53:49 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:39:40 +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > I'd like to assign fixed IP numbers to computers of a local network. I prefer to do this on the DHCP server, that way all my network

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: chromium print bug?

2012-11-13 Thread Carlos Sura
I am experimenting the same issue, when I try to print with it, I have to use Firefox to print. Any fix? On 11 November 2012 19:13, walt wrote: > On 11/11/2012 11:49 AM, Grant wrote: > >> Does anyone else's chromium get a little crazy when they try to bring >> up the print dialog without a pri

Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization

2012-11-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:20:42PM -0600, Dale wrote: > > Well, it appears we have someone willing to fork udev. Yeppie !! Me, I'm > looking forward to seeing how this works and giving it a test run when it > gets ready. Since it is a fork, shouldn't be to long, I hope. > > I wonder what

Re: [gentoo-user] Error emerging kdepimlibs-4.9.3

2012-11-13 Thread liuerfire
On 11/08/2012 01:18 AM, Pau Peris wrote: Hi, i am on a new Gentoo installation and when trying to emerge kde4.9.3 through kde4 layman overlay i get the following error for kdepimlibs-4.9.3 -- Found Sasl2: /usr/lib64/libsasl2.so -- Looking for include file sys/select.h -- Looking for include f

Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization

2012-11-13 Thread Pandu Poluan
I think we also ought to contact Linus, to have some input on what the forked-udev (vdev? gdev? nlpdev?) *shouldn't* be. Lest we tread the same path that led to him calling udev 'stupid'. Just my 2 cents. Probably worthless :-| Rgds, -- On Nov 13, 2012 4:26 PM, "Dale" wrote: > Michael Hampicke

Re: [gentoo-user] WLAN with fixed IP

2012-11-13 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 11/13/2012 11:53:49 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:39:40 +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > I'd like to assign fixed IP numbers to computers of a local network. I prefer to do this on the DHCP server, that way all my network configuration is in one place and if I move a compute

Re: [gentoo-user] WLAN with fixed IP

2012-11-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:39:40 +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > I'd like to assign fixed IP numbers to computers of a local network. I prefer to do this on the DHCP server, that way all my network configuration is in one place and if I move a computer to a different network it will still work as DHC

[gentoo-user] WLAN with fixed IP

2012-11-13 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, I'd like to assign fixed IP numbers to computers of a local network. Using dhcp as in modules="wpa_supplicant" wpa_supplicant_wlan0="-Dwext -iwlan0" config_wlan0="dhcp" works just fine but depends on dhcp for IP assignment. The following does not work, i.e. the network is not working modu

Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization

2012-11-13 Thread Dale
Michael Hampicke wrote: > Am 13.11.2012 04:20, schrieb Dale: >> >> Original Message >> Subject: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization >> Date:Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:40:53 -0500 >> From:Richard Yao >> Reply-To:gentoo-proj...@lists.gentoo.org >> To

Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization

2012-11-13 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 13.11.2012 04:20, schrieb Dale: > > > Original Message > Subject: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:40:53 -0500 > From: Richard Yao > Reply-To: gentoo-proj...@lists.gentoo.org > To: gentoo-proj...@lists.