Re: [gentoo-user] swap on ssd?

2012-11-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 25.11.2012 23:46, schrieb William Kenworthy: Has anyone tried swap on ssd? - has it killed the drive prematurely? - any other effects? I have a system that is maxed with with 4G ram and tends to use swap heavily at times which slows things down ... so I am thinking a small ssd might

Re: [gentoo-user] easy Gentoo tricks

2012-11-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 25.11.2012 22:53, schrieb Grant: What are your favorite easy Gentoo tricks? Stuff that makes your system a lot better in some way with only a minimal amount of effort. I just discovered one for xfce4: emerge tumbler No other config. Really cool result. - Grant cgroups are

Re: [gentoo-user] easy Gentoo tricks

2012-11-26 Thread George Karagiannidis
Greetings. Philipp, I am currently using XFCE and I would like to switch to KDE, but I consider it a bit bloated :S. Do you mind sharing the way you setup your KDE? regards, George Karagiannidis On 11/26/2012 10:38 AM, Florian Philipp wrote: Am 25.11.2012 22:53, schrieb Grant: What are

Re: [gentoo-user] easy Gentoo tricks

2012-11-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 26.11.2012 09:49, schrieb George Karagiannidis: On 11/26/2012 10:38 AM, Florian Philipp wrote: Am 25.11.2012 22:53, schrieb Grant: What are your favorite easy Gentoo tricks? Stuff that makes your system a lot better in some way with only a minimal amount of effort. I just discovered one

[gentoo-user] Debug memory leaks in X server

2012-11-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Hi list! I have a suspicion that viewing certain PDFs in okular causes X server to leak memory. Currently it is using 1.8 GB after 3 days uptime. Has anyone else observed that? Is there a way to inspect X server's memory usage? Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: [gentoo-user] swap on ssd?

2012-11-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 08:23:44 schrieb William Kenworthy: On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 00:02 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 06:46:28 schrieb William Kenworthy: Has anyone tried swap on ssd? - has it killed the drive prematurely? - any other effects?

Re: [gentoo-user] Debug memory leaks in X server

2012-11-26 Thread Mick
On Monday 26 Nov 2012 09:56:27 Florian Philipp wrote: Hi list! I have a suspicion that viewing certain PDFs in okular causes X server to leak memory. Currently it is using 1.8 GB after 3 days uptime. Has anyone else observed that? Is there a way to inspect X server's memory usage? I have

[gentoo-user] Re: nagios remote host

2012-11-26 Thread Moritz Schlarb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You have to configure nrpe on the remote host you want to monitor. E.g. you want to execute check_load on the remote host - to get this working, you have to tell the nrpe server that check_load means. In a normal environment, the check name is the

Re: [gentoo-user] swap on ssd?

2012-11-26 Thread microcai
2012/11/26 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com: Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 08:23:44 schrieb William Kenworthy: On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 00:02 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 06:46:28 schrieb William Kenworthy: Has anyone tried swap on ssd? - has

Re: [gentoo-user] swap on ssd?

2012-11-26 Thread William Kenworthy
On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 09:17 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: Am 25.11.2012 23:46, schrieb William Kenworthy: Has anyone tried swap on ssd? - has it killed the drive prematurely? - any other effects? I have a system that is maxed with with 4G ram and tends to use swap heavily at times

Re: [gentoo-user] Debug memory leaks in X server

2012-11-26 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Monday 26 Nov 2012 09:56:27 Florian Philipp wrote: Hi list! I have a suspicion that viewing certain PDFs in okular causes X server to leak memory. Currently it is using 1.8 GB after 3 days uptime. Has anyone else observed that? Is there a way to inspect X server's memory

Re: [gentoo-user] swap on ssd?

2012-11-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:48:58 +0800 microcai micro...@fedoraproject.org wrote: 2012/11/26 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com: Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 08:23:44 schrieb William Kenworthy: On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 00:02 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Montag, 26.

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration

2012-11-26 Thread Jacques Montier
2012/11/26 Daniel Troeder dan...@admin-box.com On 25.11.2012 22:43, Jacques Montier wrote: Each time you sync the portage, you should write on the SSD... Is it a good thing ? It is the best thing since rsync! Really - it is amazing! And about portage: you write in your portage tree not

Re: [gentoo-user] swap on ssd?

2012-11-26 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:48:58 +0800 microcai micro...@fedoraproject.org wrote: I suggest 16G if you'll buy next year. KDE will eat 2G itself. :) No it won't. The mere fact that you even typed that is absurd. KDE, like most sane software, will use ram intelligently. If

Re: [gentoo-user] Debug memory leaks in X server

2012-11-26 Thread Mick
On Monday 26 Nov 2012 12:43:38 Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Monday 26 Nov 2012 09:56:27 Florian Philipp wrote: Hi list! I have a suspicion that viewing certain PDFs in okular causes X server to leak memory. Currently it is using 1.8 GB after 3 days uptime. Has anyone else observed

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration

2012-11-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 08:45:44 schrieb Daniel Troeder: On 25.11.2012 22:43, Jacques Montier wrote: Each time you sync the portage, you should write on the SSD... Is it a good thing ? It is the best thing since rsync! Really - it is amazing! And about portage: you write in your

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration

2012-11-26 Thread Luis Gustavo Vilela de Oliveira
Well, with 8Gb RAM, i recommend use tmpfs on PORTAGE_TMPDIR, just while u are compiling anything. Or even with 6Gb too. I don't worry to much about use the SSD, the only thing that i do is use distfiles, music/video/photos on HDD to safe space. And the TMPDIR thing when i'm compiling a lot of

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration

2012-11-26 Thread Alex Schuster
Luis Gustavo Vilela de Oliveira writes: Well, with 8Gb RAM, i recommend use tmpfs on PORTAGE_TMPDIR, just while u are compiling anything. Or even with 6Gb too. I have 16 GB, with 8GB for $PORTAGE_TMPDIR on tmpfs. There were issues with some packages having not enough space, so I have this in

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration

2012-11-26 Thread Daniel Troeder
On 26.11.2012 15:01, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: 2 year warranty only covers production defects. Not failure because of abuse. I cannot imagine it to say do not let your OS swap on this flash disk. Most people have no clue what swap is, and all those netbooks nowadays have only a cheap SSD at

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration

2012-11-26 Thread Daniel Troeder
On 26.11.2012 15:35, Alex Schuster wrote: Luis Gustavo Vilela de Oliveira writes: Well, with 8Gb RAM, i recommend use tmpfs on PORTAGE_TMPDIR, just while u are compiling anything. Or even with 6Gb too. I have 16 GB, with 8GB for $PORTAGE_TMPDIR on tmpfs. There were issues with some

[gentoo-user] Re: swap on ssd?

2012-11-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-11-25, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: A storage device that broke if you tried to store stuff on it would break trading laws in any civilised country. That wouldn't stop most large companies from selling them anyway... -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration

2012-11-26 Thread Luis Gustavo Vilela de Oliveira
Nice way to handle that. I only had problems with libreoffice. But i mount the tmpdir ondemand, and when libreoffice needs update i use the SSD instead. I have 16GB too, and in general use 4GB for tmpfs on TMPDIR, i think only some packages need more then that. 2012/11/26 Alex Schuster

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration

2012-11-26 Thread Jacques Montier
2012/11/26 Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org Luis Gustavo Vilela de Oliveira writes: Well, with 8Gb RAM, i recommend use tmpfs on PORTAGE_TMPDIR, just while u are compiling anything. Or even with 6Gb too. I have 16 GB, with 8GB for $PORTAGE_TMPDIR on tmpfs. There were issues with some

Re: [gentoo-user] Debug memory leaks in X server

2012-11-26 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Monday 26 Nov 2012 12:43:38 Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Monday 26 Nov 2012 09:56:27 Florian Philipp wrote: Hi list! I have a suspicion that viewing certain PDFs in okular causes X server to leak memory. Currently it is using 1.8 GB after 3 days uptime. Has anyone else

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration

2012-11-26 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: Luis Gustavo Vilela de Oliveira writes: Well, with 8Gb RAM, i recommend use tmpfs on PORTAGE_TMPDIR, just while u are compiling anything. Or even with 6Gb too. I have 16 GB, with 8GB for $PORTAGE_TMPDIR on tmpfs. There were issues with some packages having not enough

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration

2012-11-26 Thread Luis Gustavo Vilela de Oliveira
I think u misunderstand, i belive that what Schuster have is tmpfs always mounted on /var/tmp/portage, and PORTAGE_TMPDIR will be that. When he need more than 8Gb in some package PORTAGE_TMPDIR will be /var/portage/tmp and that on HDD. What i have is /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs config in fstab with

[gentoo-user] EFI Boot on Linux

2012-11-26 Thread Michael Mol
Since I've seen the issue crop up more and more frequently on Linux-related mailing lists, I thought I'd share this link that I spotted this morning. It's an explanation of how EFI and Linux work together. http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/principles.html -- :wq

Re: [gentoo-user] Debug memory leaks in X server

2012-11-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 10:22:17 schrieb Mick: On Monday 26 Nov 2012 09:56:27 Florian Philipp wrote: Hi list! I have a suspicion that viewing certain PDFs in okular causes X server to leak memory. Currently it is using 1.8 GB after 3 days uptime. Has anyone else observed that? Is

Re: [gentoo-user] Debug memory leaks in X server

2012-11-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 26.11.2012 10:56, schrieb Florian Philipp: Hi list! I have a suspicion that viewing certain PDFs in okular causes X server to leak memory. Currently it is using 1.8 GB after 3 days uptime. Has anyone else observed that? Is there a way to inspect X server's memory usage? Regards,

Re: [gentoo-user] easy Gentoo tricks

2012-11-26 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 08:23:08PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: /usr/src/makeover ***IMPORTANT*** The arch/x86 directory is specific to 32-bit i686 kernels. Adjust accordingly if you use a different architecture. #!/bin/bash make \

Re: [gentoo-user] easy Gentoo tricks

2012-11-26 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:21:34 -0600 schrieb Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com: On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 08:23:08PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: /usr/src/makeover ***IMPORTANT*** The arch/x86 directory is specific to 32-bit i686 kernels. Adjust accordingly if you use a different

[gentoo-user] blocked packages both required by the system sys-apps/openrc vs. sys-apps/net-tools?

2012-11-26 Thread Pascal J. Bourguignon
I just emerged --sync and now when I try to update world, I get this conflict: * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be * installed at the same time on the same system. (sys-apps/net-tools-1.60_p20120127084908::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by

Re: [gentoo-user] blocked packages both required by the system sys-apps/openrc vs. sys-apps/net-tools?

2012-11-26 Thread John Campbell
On 11/26/2012 02:55 PM, Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote: [blocks B ] sys-apps/openrc-0.9.9.3 (sys-apps/openrc-0.9.9.3 is blocking sys-apps/net-tools-1.60_p20120127084908) net-tools requires openrc = 0.9.9.3. Your installed openrc, and proposed update, is too old. Upgrade to

Re: [gentoo-user] blocked packages both required by the system sys-apps/openrc vs. sys-apps/net-tools?

2012-11-26 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:55:50PM +0100, Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote: I just emerged --sync and now when I try to update world, I get this conflict: SNIP where both sys-apps/net-tools and sys-apps/baselayout-2.1-r1 therefore sys-apps/openrc are required by the system. What can I do

Re: [gentoo-user] easy Gentoo tricks

2012-11-26 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:41:41PM +0100, Marc Joliet wrote Hah, I wonder if that's because the script was written before the x86 and x86_64 architectures were merged in the kernel :) . I remember Heise reporting on that a few years back. Probably correct. The machine is approx 4 years

Re: [gentoo-user] easy Gentoo tricks

2012-11-26 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 06:59:43PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: have a couple of of IBM clickety-clack 104-keyboard specials that were being thrown out by my former employer a few years ago. I love them. Had to leave mine in China when we moved back last year. If you want to get rid of one...

Re: [gentoo-user] blocked packages both required by the system sys-apps/openrc vs. sys-apps/net-tools?

2012-11-26 Thread jens wefer
Am Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:55:50 +0100 schrieb Pascal J. Bourguignon p...@informatimago.com: I just emerged --sync and now when I try to update world, I get this conflict: [...] first update openrc, then world emerge --update openrc emerge --update world