Am 27.12.2012 01:18, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
I am *very* impressed with ZFS for this. Yes, I know, it's not really
there on Linux - I use it on FreeBSD (FreeNAS).
It has everything I've wanted in a filesystem for a long time, and all
the crap I've stuffed into my head over many years related
Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com writes:
The 'conntrack' module is supposed to be a superset of 'state', so most
things should be compatible. You really have two warnings there; the
first is for the state - conntrack switch, and the second is because
you're missing the --state flag in
Am 27.12.2012 01:18, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 07:41:01 -0800
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Merry Christmas to all.
Upgrading an external USB2 drive at home this Christmas morning to
1TB for more video storage space. One large partition, non-raid,
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 9:14 PM, fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 08:53:14PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
Possibly related?
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51881
Indeed :-) The patch author directed me there, I've applied the 51881
patch to the 3.7.1 sources, and
Joseph wrote:
I'm having problem starting openvpn after recent upgrade.
When I try to start it I get a normal respond:
openvpn.client_clinic_atom start
* Starting openvpn.client_clinic_atom ...[ ok ]
* WARNING: openvpn.client_clinic_atom has started, but is inactive
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 09:41:54PM -0800, fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
I configured a minimal kernel to test it sooner, and it booted to a
prompt. Now I am compiling with my normal config, including encfs and
a lot of other gorp, and will try it in the morning.
My bloated fully-larded normal
On 2012-12-27 02:14, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
I really think that's the crux of the matter Pandou: udev/systemd
serves to the wants of the many. The eudev fork serves to the wants of
systemd+udev serves the large mass (users of mainly Fedora and other
distros using systemd) that doesn't
* fe...@crowfix.com fe...@crowfix.com [121227 10:08]:
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 09:41:54PM -0800, fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
I configured a minimal kernel to test it sooner, and it booted to a
prompt. Now I am compiling with my normal config, including encfs and
a lot of other gorp, and
Mark David Dumlao wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark David Dumlao wrote:
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Feel free to set me straight tho. As long as you don't tell me my
system is broken and has not been able to
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I think your analogy actually proves my point. Instead of just getting
in the car and turning the key, they want to reinvent the engine and how
it works. It doesn't matter that it is and has been working for decades,
Thanks
Again you don't break the spec unless you have to and you don't change
the spec unless it is an improvement or you have no choice. Non of
which is the case. Just like you do not mould a mail RFC to a
widely used technically inferior hotmail implementation.
He's like DJB on crack.
Except DJB
* Finally, and what I think is the most fundamental difference between
systemd and almost any other init system: The service unit files in
systemd are *declarative*; you tell the daemon *what* to do, not *how*
to do it. If the service files are shell scripts (like in
OpenRC/SysV), everything
On 12/27/12 06:28, Graham Murray wrote:
Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com writes:
The 'conntrack' module is supposed to be a superset of 'state', so most
things should be compatible. You really have two warnings there; the
first is for the state - conntrack switch, and the second is
On 12/27/12 16:00, Jörg Schaible wrote:
Joseph wrote:
I'm having problem starting openvpn after recent upgrade.
When I try to start it I get a normal respond:
openvpn.client_clinic_atom start
* Starting openvpn.client_clinic_atom ...[ ok ]
* WARNING:
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 14:09:34 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
At this point I don't know that 1) the image is actually in the
kernel, or 2) that my init
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 12:13 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark David Dumlao wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark David Dumlao wrote:
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Feel free to set me straight tho. As long
Michael Orlitzky wrote:
My first -m state rule is,
iptables -A INPUT -p ALL -m state \
--state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
That was mine, too (you can omit -p in this case, can't you?).
And if what you say is true, I'd be in deep shit if it reset to,
iptables -A INPUT -p ALL -m
Joseph wrote:
Yes, you are correct. Rebuilding openvpn worked; thank you.
As far as I have seen, you can set USE=iproute2 for OpenVPN which
seems to use iproute2 instead of net-tools - should avoid your problem,
too.
-Matt
Mark David Dumlao wrote:
I think your reaction proves my point about angry mobs torching his
home without understanding what's being proposed. Your fine reading
comprehension once again failed to catch the notion that in my
analogy, all he invented was a mechanism that makes sure it was a key,
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 12:28 AM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Again you don't break the spec unless you have to and you don't change
the spec unless it is an improvement or you have no choice. Non of
which is the case. Just like you do not mould a mail RFC to a
widely used
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
So I guess Linus is confused to?
In your head, and only in your head, you're agreeing with Linus. Linus
was talking about a different bug entirely from the one you're talking
about.
The bug you're talking about: you go on and on
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 12:28 AM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:
Again you don't break the spec unless you have to and you don't change
the spec unless it is an improvement or you have no choice. Non
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
So I guess Linus is confused to?
In your head, and only in your head, you're agreeing with Linus. Linus
was talking about a different bug entirely
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
1) initramfs. It's not that hard
2) early mount script. It's not that hard.
3) modify your udev ebuild to install to /. It's not that hard.
If you'd read the thread (and/or related ones), you'd know he tried to go
On 12/27/12 12:52, Matthias Hanft wrote:
Michael Orlitzky wrote:
My first -m state rule is,
iptables -A INPUT -p ALL -m state \
--state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
That was mine, too (you can omit -p in this case, can't you?).
Yeah, it just makes the indentation line up in my
Am Sonntag, 23. Dezember 2012, 19:03:25 schrieb Nuno J. Silva:
Then I suppose you can surely explain in a nutshell why can't init
scripts simply do that?
because some people decided, that fsck or that dynamic /dev/ populator depends
on stuff in /usr? which is the reason for this thread?
How
Am Sonntag, 23. Dezember 2012, 19:44:43 schrieb Nuno J. Silva:
On 2012-12-23, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 07:03:25PM +0200, Nuno J. Silva wrote:
On 2012-12-23, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:22:24 +0200
nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt (Nuno J. Silva) wrote:
Matthias Hanft wrote:
Joseph wrote:
Yes, you are correct. Rebuilding openvpn worked; thank you.
As far as I have seen, you can set USE=iproute2 for OpenVPN which
seems to use iproute2 instead of net-tools - should avoid your problem,
too.
If iprout2 is relocated, it will fail for openvpn
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 20:43:12 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
and a device node in /dev - like /dev/sda2. And how do you get that one
without udev?
CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y
Of course, that only helps if /usr is on a plain old disk block device.
--
Neil Bothwick
No, you *can't* call 999 now.
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Sonntag, 23. Dezember 2012, 19:44:43 schrieb Nuno J. Silva:
On 2012-12-23, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 07:03:25PM +0200, Nuno J. Silva wrote:
On 2012-12-23, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 2012-12-27, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Am Sonntag, 23. Dezember 2012, 19:44:43 schrieb Nuno J. Silva:
On 2012-12-23, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 07:03:25PM +0200, Nuno J. Silva wrote:
On 2012-12-23, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:22:24 +0200
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
or the fact that some udev programs tend to
be located in /usr,
That's either a bug with those programs, or a need for architectural
improvements within udev. Both plausible answers.
The most obvious architectural
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
or the fact that some udev programs tend to
be located in /usr,
That's either a bug with those programs, or a need for architectural
greets ...
today (at least in my timezone ;-) ) I saw gnome-3.6-related ebuilds
coming up on my ~amd64 box ...
I ran a backup (yes, experience ...) and emerged stuff ... so far it
runs OK.
There are changes and new features and I am still exploring stuff.
The general question: is it a bug or
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
1) initramfs. It's not that hard
2) early mount script. It's not that hard.
3) modify your udev ebuild to install to /. It's not that hard.
If you'd read the thread (and/or related ones), you'd
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
or the fact that some udev programs tend to
be located in /usr,
That's
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:57:09 +0100
Michael Hampicke gentoo-u...@hadt.biz wrote:
Migrating my NAS to ZFS is something that has been floating around my
head for a longer time. But I am not really sure if I want to switch
from gentoo to FreeBSD on my NAS. zfsonlinux is there, but it's first
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 10:56:52 +0700
Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
In case you haven't noticed, since Windows 7 (or Vista, forget which)
Microsoft has even went the distance of splitting between C:
(analogous to /usr) and 'System Partition' (analogous to /). The boot
process is actually
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:28:15AM +, Graham Murray wrote
The problem is not really the OP's fault. The problem is that if you
have tables with the form -m state --state XXX at the point you
upgrade, iptables-save (quite possibly called automatically by
/etc/init.d/iptables stop) will
On Saturday 22 Dec 2012 01:29:57 Kevin Brandstatter wrote:
So e17 just came out and ive been using for a bit. The only problem
ive had with it is that i cant check the option to lock the screen on
suspend. I don't think this is a problem on some of the other
distributions so thought it could
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:00 AM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:
On 2012-12-27 02:14, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
I really think that's the crux of the matter Pandou: udev/systemd
serves to the wants of the many. The eudev fork serves to the wants of
systemd+udev serves the large mass (users
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 14:09:34 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
At this point I
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
* Finally, and what I think is the most fundamental difference between
systemd and almost any other init system: The service unit files in
systemd are *declarative*; you tell the daemon *what* to do, not *how*
to do
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
greets ...
today (at least in my timezone ;-) ) I saw gnome-3.6-related ebuilds
coming up on my ~amd64 box ...
I ran a backup (yes, experience ...) and emerged stuff ... so far it
runs OK.
There are changes and
On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 15:14:11 +
Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Are there any other cases, apart from emotional attachment based on
inertia, where a separate / and /usr are desirable? As I see it,
there is only the system, and it is an atomic unit.
You should really read
On 12/27/2012 06:11 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:28:15AM +, Graham Murray wrote
The problem is not really the OP's fault. The problem is that if you
have tables with the form -m state --state XXX at the point you
upgrade, iptables-save (quite possibly called
Am 28.12.2012 00:45, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
No, it works that way. You could changed in previous versions with
the /apps/metacity/general/mouse_button_modifier key in gconftool-2,
but now it's gone. I don't know if anyone is working on bring it
back.
I *liked* the old way ... is there
2012/12/28 Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at
Am 28.12.2012 00:45, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
No, it works that way. You could changed in previous versions with
the /apps/metacity/general/mouse_button_modifier key in gconftool-2,
but now it's gone. I don't know if anyone is working on
On 12/27/2012 05:16 PM, Mick wrote:
On Saturday 22 Dec 2012 01:29:57 Kevin Brandstatter wrote:
So e17 just came out and ive been using for a bit. The only problem
ive had with it is that i cant check the option to lock the screen on
suspend. I don't think this is a problem on some of the other
Am Donnerstag, 27. Dezember 2012, 07:45:24 schrieb Pandu Poluan:
On Dec 26, 2012 1:05 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
Even Linus piped up at one point, sharply reminding
Greg KH that even though udev was at one time Greg's 'baby', at this point
udev serves only the wants of the
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 02:06:27AM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 27. Dezember 2012, 07:45:24 schrieb Pandu Poluan:
On Dec 26, 2012 1:05 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
Even Linus piped up at one point, sharply reminding
Greg KH that even though udev was
trying to emerge: gnome-base/gconf-2.32.4
and I'm getting a strange error:
Failed to emerge gnome-base/gconf-2.32.4, Log file:
'/var/log/portage/gnome-base:gconf-2.32.4:20121228-021346.log'
Jobs: 2 of 23 complete, 1 failedLoad avg: 1.05, 0.61, 0.41
* Package:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:
trying to emerge: gnome-base/gconf-2.32.4
and I'm getting a strange error:
SNIP
--
Joseph
Saw the same thing here this morning, and have seen it a couple of
times in the past. My strategy is to sync tomorrow and try again or
On 12/27/12 18:21, Mark Knecht wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:
trying to emerge: gnome-base/gconf-2.32.4
and I'm getting a strange error:
SNIP
--
Joseph
Saw the same thing here this morning, and have seen it a couple of
times in the past. My
On 12/27/12 18:21, Mark Knecht wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:
trying to emerge: gnome-base/gconf-2.32.4
and I'm getting a strange error:
SNIP
--
Joseph
Saw the same thing here this morning, and have seen it a couple of
times in the past. My
Yeah, bugs happen. Like I said, wait a day and try again.
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 01:49:01PM +0800, William Kenworthy wrote
Do you have the fstab line:
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
I had an ancient version, which I've been copying to new installs for
years. It was...
shm /dev/shm tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0
I changed over to your line,
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 06:50:07PM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote
Once you've upgraded, you should be able to add all of your old --state
rules normally, albeit with a warning. The new iptables will translate
them to conntrack rules, and you can `/etc/init.d/iptables save` the result.
The
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 07:34:00PM -0700, Joseph wrote:
Looking at the package list:
http://packages.gentoo.org/package/gnome-base/gconf?arches=fbsd
gnome-base/gconf is not mark stable or testing at all, there is a blank space.
gconf-2.32.4 was already installed on my system, emerge is
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/27/2012 10:59 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:
Here's my revised Paranoia Plus ruleset. Any comments? Because I'm
behind a NAT-ing ADSL router/modem, many of my rules rarely see hits.
However, I do have a backup dialup connection in case of problems, so
most of my rules don't specify the
On 28/12/12 11:25, Walter Dnes wrote:
chmod 755 /dev/shm/hello
/dev/shm/hello
as a user (not root)
wdk@moriah /home/vm/qemu/mail $ vi /dev/shm/hello
wdk@moriah /home/vm/qemu/mail $ chmod 755 /dev/shm/hello
wdk@moriah /home/vm/qemu/mail $ /dev/shm/hello
Hello World
wdk@moriah /home/vm/qemu/mail
I'm sure I made more than one typo, but the ALLOWED_ICMP below
definitely needs a dollar sign.
for ok_icmp in ALLOWED_ICMP; do
iptables -A ICMP_IN -p icmp --icmp-type ${ok_icmp} -j ACCEPT
done
I'm not a PHP programmer but I'll try to explain my problem.
I've create table in my php database:
DROP TABLE IF EXISTS visual_verify_code;
CREATE TABLE visual_verify_code (
oscsid varchar(32) NOT NULL,
code varchar(6) NOT NULL,
dt TIMESTAMP(12) NOT NULL DEFAULT NOW(),
PRIMARY KEY
On 12/28/2012 01:44 AM, Joseph wrote:
I'm not a PHP programmer but I'll try to explain my problem.
I've create table in my php database:
DROP TABLE IF EXISTS visual_verify_code;
CREATE TABLE visual_verify_code (
oscsid varchar(32) NOT NULL,
code varchar(6) NOT NULL,
dt
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 01:49:01PM +0800, William Kenworthy wrote
Do you have the fstab line:
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
I had an ancient version, which I've been copying to new installs for
years. It
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Randolph Maaßen said:
Maybe interesting to read:
http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/
I think we had this before
Am 28.12.2012 01:02, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
I *liked* the old way ... is there any explanation why removing this
improves things? How is it supposed to work now?
That's the sane question to ask, unfortunately you won't get a real
answer from the GNOME developers themselves. They are
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