Re: [gentoo-user] 4G Stick Huawei E3276

2013-04-03 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 02 Apr 2013 16:48:26 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 02.04.2013 16:27, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 02.04.2013 15:52, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: So I am back on cdc_ncm now. And I removed all the stuff I installed when testing that huawei-driver-package. phew.

Re: [gentoo-user] 4G Stick Huawei E3276

2013-04-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.04.2013 08:07, schrieb Mick: Glad to hear to you got somewhere with this effort! :-) Yes, all the precious time spent :-) If you configure your /etc/conf.d/net for wwan0 (or whatever it is now called) to use dhcpcd you should not need to manually attempt getting an IP address:

Re: [gentoo-user] stage3 only for i486?

2013-04-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/04/2013 01:41, Daniel Frey wrote: On 04/02/2013 12:17 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Oh, and gentoo is fast is a nono swear word these days. That's ricing :-) Nowadays we say the benefit of gentoo is USE so you get what *you* want :-) When I'm asked, I say that gentoo is extremely

[gentoo-user] dhcpcd + bonding problem

2013-04-03 Thread Александр Тумаров
Some time ago I upgraded openrc and dhcpcd, after this upgrade I face next problem: /etc/conf.d/net has next content config_bond0=dhcp config_eth0=null slaves_eth0=eth0 For some reason dhcpcd runs on both bond0 and eth0 assigning the same address to both and of course I have double entries in

Re: [gentoo-user] ntp-daemons

2013-04-03 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Wednesday 03 April 2013 05:06:00 AM IST, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I always used net-misc/ntp for syncing time. Now I found net-misc/chrony and set it up looks good so far. Any opinions and experiences on the various ways of getting THE TIME? Stefan I use busybox :D

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [way OT but interesting] Massive recent DDOS attack

2013-04-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 05:46:07 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: Do guinea pigs work better or worse than tribbles at calming you? Tribbles don't keep people calm indefinitely. At some point they all die from starvation and humans would follow soon after :) AFAIR guinea pigs don't last forever

Re: [gentoo-user] ntp-daemons

2013-04-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.04.2013 10:28, schrieb Nilesh Govindrajan: On Wednesday 03 April 2013 05:06:00 AM IST, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I always used net-misc/ntp for syncing time. Now I found net-misc/chrony and set it up looks good so far. Any opinions and experiences on the various ways of getting

Re: [gentoo-user] ntp-daemons

2013-04-03 Thread Marc Stürmer
Am 03.04.2013 01:36, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: I always used net-misc/ntp for syncing time. Now I found net-misc/chrony and set it up looks good so far. Any opinions and experiences on the various ways of getting THE TIME? Just two different hammers for the same nail. Another

Re: [gentoo-user] [way OT but interesting] Massive recent DDOS attack

2013-04-03 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 03:33:17 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: But somebody had to blow it up. And even more people jumped on it. Boohoo. So the next time you start insulting people, base your findings on more than a blog written by those guys who have an

Re: [gentoo-user] ntp-daemons

2013-04-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.04.2013 12:21, schrieb Marc Stürmer: Just two different hammers for the same nail. Sure. I just like the quicker syncing/adjusting of chrony. Another alternative is OpenNTPD btw, http://www.openntpd.org/ I will have a look as well ;-) Thanks, Stefan

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpcd + bonding problem

2013-04-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wed, April 3, 2013 10:04, Александр Тумаров wrote: Some time ago I upgraded openrc and dhcpcd, after this upgrade I face next problem: /etc/conf.d/net has next content config_bond0=dhcp config_eth0=null slaves_eth0=eth0 this should be: slaves_bond0=eth0 and you also

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [way OT but interesting] Massive recent DDOS attack

2013-04-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wed, April 3, 2013 11:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 05:46:07 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: Do guinea pigs work better or worse than tribbles at calming you? Tribbles don't keep people calm indefinitely. At some point they all die from starvation and humans would follow soon

[gentoo-user] kmod requires modules in kernel??

2013-04-03 Thread Tanstaafl
Ok, I am prepping for the udev update this weekend, getting everything updated that doesn't pull in the udev updates. First thing I did was to eliminate the module-init-toolskmod Blocker: emerge -C module-init-tools %% emerge kmod and noted the following warnings/errors: Checking for

[gentoo-user] kded4 keeping a flash drive busy

2013-04-03 Thread Francisco Ares
Hello All Issuing a fuser -m [mount-point] shows that kded4 keeps using the flash drive device, so I am not allowed to umount it. Any hints on how to solve this? The most relevant search result is in http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67t=99419start=15 , but I just can't believe that I have

Re: [gentoo-user] kded4 keeping a flash drive busy

2013-04-03 Thread Yohan Pereira
On 03/04/13 at 10:56am, Francisco Ares wrote: Hello All Issuing a fuser -m [mount-point] shows that kded4 keeps using the flash drive device, so I am not allowed to umount it. Any hints on how to solve this? The most relevant search result is in

Re: [gentoo-user] kmod requires modules in kernel??

2013-04-03 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Ok, I am prepping for the udev update this weekend, getting everything updated that doesn't pull in the udev updates. First thing I did was to eliminate the module-init-toolskmod Blocker: emerge -C module-init-tools

Re: [gentoo-user] kmod requires modules in kernel??

2013-04-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/04/2013 14:54, Tanstaafl wrote: Ok, I am prepping for the udev update this weekend, getting everything updated that doesn't pull in the udev updates. First thing I did was to eliminate the module-init-toolskmod Blocker: emerge -C module-init-tools %% emerge kmod and noted the

[gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-04-02, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 20:31:10 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: In Flameyes blog, he showed an example of using udev rules pretty much identical to the ones I already had, so I couldn't figure out what was different (other than the default

Re: [gentoo-user] ntp-daemons

2013-04-03 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 03 Apr 2013 11:38:56 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 03.04.2013 12:21, schrieb Marc Stürmer: Just two different hammers for the same nail. Sure. I just like the quicker syncing/adjusting of chrony. Another alternative is OpenNTPD btw, http://www.openntpd.org/ I will have

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:13:12 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: On 2013-04-02, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 20:31:10 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: In Flameyes blog, he showed an example of using udev rules pretty much identical to the ones I already had,

Re: [gentoo-user] stage3 only for i486?

2013-04-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 03 April 2013 08:59:51 Alan McKinnon wrote: To this day on the servers at work I *still* reach to USE=-avahi -zeroconf -mdns -ldap -gnutls nls -other-bundled-crap Seeing -gnutls in there prompted me to go and find out why I have it on this box. Turns out that phonon requires

Re: [gentoo-user] ntp-daemons

2013-04-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 03 April 2013 00:36:00 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I always used net-misc/ntp for syncing time. Now I found net-misc/chrony and set it up looks good so far. Any opinions and experiences on the various ways of getting THE TIME? I've been using chrony for years now. It

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-03 Thread Jarry
On 02-Apr-13 21:58, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 02/04/2013 21:41, Tanstaafl wrote: Are you saying that now, with udev-200, the default is the OLD way, and you have to intentionally enable the NEW way?? No, you are stilling misunderstanding. The news item goes to great lengths to explain that

[gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-04-03, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: Have you read the news item? Yes. I found it rather confusing. It refers to a new format for rules, but the examples use the exact same format as the old rules. It talks about how 80-net-name-slot.rules needs to be either an empty file

Re: [gentoo-user] kmod requires modules in kernel??

2013-04-03 Thread Dan Johansson
On Wednesday 03 April 2013 17.10:15 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 03/04/2013 14:54, Tanstaafl wrote: Ok, I am prepping for the udev update this weekend, getting everything updated that doesn't pull in the udev updates. First thing I did was to eliminate the module-init-toolskmod Blocker:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-03 Thread Lee
And if it's confusing for the 'bit jockeys' on this mailing list what do you think will be the effect on the casual user? This could have been handled better, imho. What happened to that documentation mojo Gentoo is known for? The post-install notes are a real head scratcher. On Apr 3, 2013 9:40

[gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-03 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2013-04-03, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: Have you read the news item? Yes. I found it rather confusing. It refers to a new format for rules, but the examples use the exact same format as the old rules. It talks about how

[gentoo-user] Re: stage3 only for i486?

2013-04-03 Thread James
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: James is our embedded guy. No-one knows exactly what James does, but it involves teeny weeny systems with less RAM than your wristwatch, and somehow Gentoo runs on it. I think it's $MAGIC, he will say it is $SCIENCE, I won't argue. My X

Re: [gentoo-user] kded4 keeping a flash drive busy

2013-04-03 Thread Francisco Ares
2013/4/3 Yohan Pereira yohan.pere...@gmail.com On 03/04/13 at 10:56am, Francisco Ares wrote: Hello All Issuing a fuser -m [mount-point] shows that kded4 keeps using the flash drive device, so I am not allowed to umount it. Any hints on how to solve this? The most relevant search

Re: [gentoo-user] kded4 keeping a flash drive busy

2013-04-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/04/2013 20:47, Francisco Ares wrote: 2013/4/3 Yohan Pereira yohan.pere...@gmail.com mailto:yohan.pere...@gmail.com On 03/04/13 at 10:56am, Francisco Ares wrote: Hello All Issuing a fuser -m [mount-point] shows that kded4 keeps using the flash drive

Re: [gentoo-user] stage3 only for i486?

2013-04-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/04/2013 17:37, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 03 April 2013 08:59:51 Alan McKinnon wrote: To this day on the servers at work I *still* reach to USE=-avahi -zeroconf -mdns -ldap -gnutls nls -other-bundled-crap Seeing -gnutls in there prompted me to go and find out

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: stage3 only for i486?

2013-04-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/04/2013 20:44, James wrote: i486interesting I would point out that there has been much discussion (gentoo-dev and elsewhere) bout changing the install manuals to system-rescue based. Over the years the installation options have mutiplied, to say the least. It

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-03 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 08:06:20PM +0200, Jörg Schaible wrote: Hi, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2013-04-03, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: Have you read the news item? Yes. I found it rather confusing. It refers to a new format for rules, but the examples use the exact

[gentoo-user] Re: sys-fs/udev-200 and my wireless interface

2013-04-03 Thread Mick
On Sunday 31 Mar 2013 18:06:19 Mick wrote: From the elog which I applied carefully and the links to Flameeyes blog kindly shared in this M/L, I thought that I would have to rename *all* my interfaces. Therefore I was surprised to find that only my eth0 changed to enp11s0, while my wlan0

Re: [gentoo-user] ntp-daemons

2013-04-03 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 03 Apr 2013 16:41:14 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 03 April 2013 00:36:00 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I always used net-misc/ntp for syncing time. Now I found net-misc/chrony and set it up looks good so far. Any opinions and experiences on the various ways of

[gentoo-user] How to get pam_gnome_keyring do concurrent unlocking work with pam_ssh?

2013-04-03 Thread Leho Kraav
I would like my Gnome Keyring to be unlocked during login, but also run pam_ssh to unlock my ssh key. I'm pretty sure I'm running into this https://live.gnome.org/GnomeKeyring/Pam#Advanced_configuration since I have pam_ssh sufficient in system-auth. This is my system-login: auth

Re: [gentoo-user] kded4 keeping a flash drive busy

2013-04-03 Thread Francisco Ares
2013/4/3 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com On 03/04/2013 20:47, Francisco Ares wrote: 2013/4/3 Yohan Pereira yohan.pere...@gmail.com mailto:yohan.pere...@gmail.com On 03/04/13 at 10:56am, Francisco Ares wrote: Hello All Issuing a fuser -m [mount-point] shows

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-03 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 03 Apr 2013 20:46:37 Bruce Hill wrote: Therefore, all's well that's still working! And AFAIR, on at least 2 of those machines, the 70-persistent-net.rules was never something I did manually. Right, it used to be auto-generated by udev scripts. With udev-200 you are meant to

[gentoo-user] sys-fs/udev-200 compile failed during new installation

2013-04-03 Thread Jackie
Hello all,I was trying to reinstall gentoo on my PC and when I was emerging gentoo-sources-3.8.5,sys-fs/udev-200 was required.However,after installation of gentoo-sources,comlpilation of udev failed and there is no output of error message.And this is the output of emerge --inform

Re: [gentoo-user] ntp-daemons

2013-04-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
[Sorry if this not entirely coherent: it's growing late here.] On Wednesday 03 April 2013 22:45:11 Mick wrote: Do you have chronyc set up to signal off/online status to chronyd? If so, where do you run it from? No, I don't need to bother with manual control: it just works for me. I did play

[gentoo-user] Big drive + UEFI boot questions

2013-04-03 Thread Walter Dnes
I checked the Gentoo wiki http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/UEFI about handling UEFI boot. I'm still a bit confused. The way I read it, there are 2 separate issues... * UEFI boot * GPT versus MBR partitions Apparently, I get to choose between unmasking ELILO or GRUB2 to do a UEFI boot. As

Re: [gentoo-user] stage3 only for i486?

2013-04-03 Thread Stroller
On 3 April 2013, at 20:36, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... The reason I say Gentoo shouldn't worry about installers is that the typical person installing Gentoo already knows about chroots. Someone who doesn't is unlikely to consider Gentoo at all It's been a while, but I don't think I knew what a

Re: [gentoo-user] Big drive + UEFI boot questions

2013-04-03 Thread Randolph Maaßen
On Apr 4, 2013 4:27 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: I checked the Gentoo wiki http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/UEFI about handling UEFI boot. I'm still a bit confused. The way I read it, there are 2 separate issues... * UEFI boot * GPT versus MBR partitions Apparently, I