Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-28 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger

Had problems configuring the static network inside a gentoo VM.

The network never came up but when I logged in and started the
network.service manually it worked. Strange.

The mentioned service-file was the one here (my posting with /bin/ip):

http://gentoo.2317880.n4.nabble.com/Systemd-and-static-network-td265801.html

So I googled some more and used the more complex file from arch:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_Configuration#Manual_connection_at_boot_using_systemd

With this the VM gets connected fine now.

It's even more flexible as it allows to set up multiple NICs by simply
creating the corresponding config-file in /etc/conf.d



Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-28 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 28.08.2013 08:03, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 
 Had problems configuring the static network inside a gentoo VM.
 
 The network never came up but when I logged in and started the
 network.service manually it worked. Strange.

before you ask: yes, the service was enabled correctly (double-checked,
redone ...)




Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-28 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 18:57, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:

 Canek, how to best tell the gentoo-devs about all these files?
 Filing bugs for every single file?
 
 Yeah, to the package in question. Probably with a CC to the systemd
 team, so they add the unit file if the maintainer takes too much to
 acknowledge the bug.
 
 I haven't done it myself with all the units I already have, I haven't
 gotten the time.

Just found this note from Pacho on planet.gentoo.org:

http://my.opera.com/pacho/blog/2013/08/27/how-to-write-proper-systemd-unit-files

I will have to review some of my files then ;-)

Stefan



Re: [gentoo-user] portage 2.2 in ~amd64

2013-08-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 17:27:30 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:

 Am I correct in believing that when I upgrade to 2.2.1, all the commands
 from 2.1.x.y will continue to work?  I know that several readers have
 used 2.2 for years with success.

The commands will, but there may be better alternatives in 2.2.

Man page time :)


-- 
Neil Bothwick

A snooze button is a poor substitute for no alarm clock at all.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-28 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 27/08/2013 14:05, Tanstaafl wrote:

[-- snippy --]

  Thanks Alan, starting to get excited about playing with ZFS.
 
  How would you rate their docs and support community (for the free version)?

 Support is top-notch, on par with what you find around here if that
 helps ;-)

 Each major.minor version has a .pdf manual published, while the next
 version is in development, the docs get updated on a wiki and the final
 version is an export of that. There's a forum with knowledgeable users
 and the devs hang around just in case regular users can't help with a
 question.

 No mailing list though :-(
 And the forum does have a lot of noise from n00bs, but that's common
 with web forums. Like on Gentoo, you quickly learn to spot those posts
 and scan over them.


Actually, there *is* a mailing list. I happened upon it accidentally
several minutes ago.

Two of them in fact.

https://groups.google.com/a/zfsonlinux.org/forum/#!forum/zfs-discuss

... and if you want to partake in development of ZFS-on-Linux:

https://groups.google.com/a/zfsonlinux.org/forum/#!forum/zfs-devel


(I've just subscribed to the first list)


Rgds,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-28 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-27 5:06 PM, Joerg Schilling 
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:

You wrote that modules become derivatives of the Linux kernel and this is the
same as writing ZFS would become a kernel derivative.


Just for clarification, I was talking about compiling ZFS support INTO 
the kernel, not running it as a module.


Do you claim that support for compiling ZFS directly into the kernel 
also does not violate the license?




Re: [gentoo-user] portage 2.2 in ~amd64

2013-08-28 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2013-08-27 5:27 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:

I was away for two weeks.  I just resynced and see that 2.2.1 is now in
testing (and my current version 2.1.13.1 is not in the tree).

Am I correct in believing that when I upgrade to 2.2.1, all the commands
from 2.1.x.y will continue to work?  I know that several readers have
used 2.2 for years with success.


So... is 2.2 *ever* going to go stable???



Re: [gentoo-user] portage 2.2 in ~amd64

2013-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/08/2013 13:04, Tanstaafl wrote:
 On 2013-08-27 5:27 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 I was away for two weeks.  I just resynced and see that 2.2.1 is now in
 testing (and my current version 2.1.13.1 is not in the tree).

 Am I correct in believing that when I upgrade to 2.2.1, all the commands
 from 2.1.x.y will continue to work?  I know that several readers have
 used 2.2 for years with success.
 
 So... is 2.2 *ever* going to go stable???
 


100+ alpha/beta releases
200+ rc releases

what do you think?



-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/08/2013 12:58, Tanstaafl wrote:
 On 2013-08-27 5:06 PM, Joerg Schilling
 joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
 You wrote that modules become derivatives of the Linux kernel and this
 is the
 same as writing ZFS would become a kernel derivative.
 
 Just for clarification, I was talking about compiling ZFS support INTO
 the kernel, not running it as a module.
 
 Do you claim that support for compiling ZFS directly into the kernel
 also does not violate the license?
 


Whether the code is compile in or a module makes no difference wrt
licenses as far as I know.

There's no limitation on *running* the code, you can fetch and patch and
edit and compile and run all you want and have it on as many of your (or
the company's) machines as you want - neither license interferes with
your right to do that.

You may not redistribute the code though.

A common misconception with these license is that they have something to
do with whether you may run the code or not. That is incorrect. Free
licenses are all about redistribution and your obligations about sharing
when you hand the code over to others.



-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-28 Thread Joerg Schilling
Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:

 On 2013-08-27 5:06 PM, Joerg Schilling 
 joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
  You wrote that modules become derivatives of the Linux kernel and this is 
  the
  same as writing ZFS would become a kernel derivative.

 Just for clarification, I was talking about compiling ZFS support INTO 
 the kernel, not running it as a module.

 Do you claim that support for compiling ZFS directly into the kernel 
 also does not violate the license?

There is no difference, both is permitted.

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage 2.2 in ~amd64

2013-08-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:04:39 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:

 So... is 2.2 *ever* going to go stable???

Give it a chance! It's only just come out of rc. Until recently it
wasn't even available in testing without umasking.


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Does fuzzy logic tickle?


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Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-28 Thread Francisco Ares
2013/8/28 Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz

 Am 27.08.2013 22:40, schrieb Francisco Ares:
 
  I think I might have found it.  Although I have selected in the kernel
  menuconfig to compress the initramfs using gzip and deselected all
 other
  decompression forms. a simple file initramfs-xxx told me that it was
 XZ
  compressed data, so now I am rebuilding the kernel with all
 decompression
  algorithms built in.
 
  I will (hope) soon post the results.
 
  Thanks,
  Francisco
 
 
 
  It did not work :-(
 

 You could try generating an initramfs with dracut - see if that works.
 You possible have to change the name of the initramfs in grub.cfg. Files
 generated with dracut don't have *genkernel* in it's filename.

 If you can boot with dracut initramfs, you can investigate why the
 initramfs of genkernel does not work.


Thanks, Michael, gonna read about dracut and try it out.

Right now gentoo-sources-3.10.7 is being built, still using genkernel (I
was using gentoo-sources-3.8.13).

Meanwhile: the profile for this new install is
default/linux/amd64/13.0/no-multilib - and I see that the directory where
grub2 stores modules in /boot/grub2 is named i386-pc.  Switching to a
multilib profile and issuing an emerge -pvuDN world, I see that, for
instance, glibc is queued to be rebuilt with multilib use flag.

What I mean is: does genkernel uses the binaries already available in the
filesystem it works on, or does it build its own ones?  If so, is genkernel
+ grub2 compatible with a no-multilib profile?  I guess so, specially
after reading grub2 documentation, but, on the other hand, in a working
system, I could see that busybox from the initramfs (thanks, Neil!) and the
one in the root filesystem are different.

Thanks again!
Francisco


Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot [SOLVED]

2013-08-28 Thread Francisco Ares
2013/8/28 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com


 2013/8/28 Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz

 Am 27.08.2013 22:40, schrieb Francisco Ares:
 
  I think I might have found it.  Although I have selected in the kernel
  menuconfig to compress the initramfs using gzip and deselected all
 other
  decompression forms. a simple file initramfs-xxx told me that it was
 XZ
  compressed data, so now I am rebuilding the kernel with all
 decompression
  algorithms built in.
 
  I will (hope) soon post the results.
 
  Thanks,
  Francisco
 
 
 
  It did not work :-(
 

 You could try generating an initramfs with dracut - see if that works.
 You possible have to change the name of the initramfs in grub.cfg. Files
 generated with dracut don't have *genkernel* in it's filename.

 If you can boot with dracut initramfs, you can investigate why the
 initramfs of genkernel does not work.


 Thanks, Michael, gonna read about dracut and try it out.

 Right now gentoo-sources-3.10.7 is being built, still using genkernel (I
 was using gentoo-sources-3.8.13).

 Meanwhile: the profile for this new install is
 default/linux/amd64/13.0/no-multilib - and I see that the directory where
 grub2 stores modules in /boot/grub2 is named i386-pc.  Switching to a
 multilib profile and issuing an emerge -pvuDN world, I see that, for
 instance, glibc is queued to be rebuilt with multilib use flag.

 What I mean is: does genkernel uses the binaries already available in the
 filesystem it works on, or does it build its own ones?  If so, is genkernel
 + grub2 compatible with a no-multilib profile?  I guess so, specially
 after reading grub2 documentation, but, on the other hand, in a working
 system, I could see that busybox from the initramfs (thanks, Neil!) and the
 one in the root filesystem are different.

 Thanks again!
 Francisco


Hi

While trying to learn about dracut, I found a detail that made me look
closer to the genkernel generated initramfs, and I found that the error
message was perfectly clear: there was no /dev/sda5, where my real_root
is, that initramfs has just /dev/sda1 to /dev/sda4 .

I think it must be a limitation on genkernel part, although I was unable to
find anything related to this issue up to now.

So now I have rearranged the partitions, using just the first ones. Now I
got a stuck splash image, no initialization shown, no progress bar
moving... but this is another problem, probably I forgot to change
something to reflect the new partitioning scheme.

Thanks to all.
Francisco


Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot [SOLVED]

2013-08-28 Thread Gregory Shearman
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote:

 While trying to learn about dracut, I found a detail that made me look
 closer to the genkernel generated initramfs, and I found that the error
 message was perfectly clear: there was no /dev/sda5, where my real_root
 is, that initramfs has just /dev/sda1 to /dev/sda4 .

 I think it must be a limitation on genkernel part, although I was unable to
 find anything related to this issue up to now.

It appears as if genkernel can only boot off real, not extended
partitions.

 So now I have rearranged the partitions, using just the first ones. Now I
 got a stuck splash image, no initialization shown, no progress bar
 moving... but this is another problem, probably I forgot to change
 something to reflect the new partitioning scheme.

It could be a tty problem. If I use genkernel unchanged I get a weird
splash screen and the boot dialog writes all over my splash screen. What
I have to do evey time an emerge updates my genkernel is:

edit my /usr/share/genkernel/defaults/linuxrc file

search for CONSOLE in this file and find:

# exec ${CONSOLE} ${CONSOLE} 21

Just remove the hash at the start of the line, rebuild my initramfs
and it is ready to go.

-- 
Regards,
Gregory.



[gentoo-user] Re: portage 2.2 in ~amd64

2013-08-28 Thread »Q«
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:04:39 -0400
Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:

 So... is 2.2 *ever* going to go stable???

Hopefully, 2.2.1 will be stabilized.  See zmedico's comments 5 and 6 at
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478904#c5.