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On 02/19/14 14:37, Gevisz wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:53:12 +0400
the the.gu...@mail.ru wrote:
On 02/18/14 17:56, Gevisz wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 23:30:42 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés
can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:05
On 21/02/2014 09:03, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
Your idea instantly fails as the rc-service author has no idea of what
you defined ${SERVICE} to be and no way to determine what it is now.
Yes, the rc-service author does not have any idea because he is not
requested to.
${SERVICE} obviously
Hi All,
I bought a Lenovo y510p stuff which has two video cards, an Intel 4th
generation stuff and a NVIDIA GF GT750M SLI. When I start the
X -configure
the log says that it has not found usable driver, however in my make.conf
VIDEO_CARDS=nvidia nv intel nouveau vga
The system is base system
Hans de Graaff graaff at gentoo.org writes:
Because we haven't gotten around to that yet. Also note that only a few
packages currently have ruby21 support, so eselecting it right now is not
very useful yet.
We should be updating the ruby eselect module in the next week or so.
Any news on
21.02.2014 12:48, Alan McKinnon пишет:
On 21/02/2014 09:03, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
Your idea instantly fails as the rc-service author has no idea of what
you defined ${SERVICE} to be and no way to determine what it is now.
Yes, the rc-service author does not have any idea because he is not
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 10:32:41 +0100, András Csányi wrote:
VIDEO_CARDS=nvidia nv intel nouveau vga
Pick one of nvidia, nv or nouveau, preferably not nv. You should also add
vesa to the list, which gets most cards working in a basic way.
--
Neil Bothwick
When you choke a smurf, what color does
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:41:03 +0100 Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 08:52:07PM +0400, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
And this point is one of the highest security benefits in real world:
one have non-standard binaries, not available in the wild. Most
exploits will fail on such
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 22:59:59 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 20/02/2014 22:41, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 08:52:07PM +0400, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
And this point is one of the highest security benefits in real world:
one have non-standard binaries, not available in
Hi,
I need to create a bootable flash stick, preferably using already working
Gentoo system (or at least most of it), which was tailored for an embedded
system.
Already googled around, but I would like to know if anyone has already
succeeded on this.
Thanks
Francisco
On 2014-02-20 9:39 PM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
Indeed, Greg doesn't work for Red Hat. Prior to working for LF, however,
he worked for Novell, another for-profit Linux company.
Good god, is that the best you can do?
What is your aversion to 'profit', anyway? You do realize
On 02/21/2014 07:24 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2014-02-20 9:39 PM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
Indeed, Greg doesn't work for Red Hat. Prior to working for LF, however,
he worked for Novell, another for-profit Linux company.
Good god, is that the best you can do?
What is your
Gentoo minimal and unetbootin:
http://programminglinuxblog.blogspot.ca/2011/02/gentoo-on-usb-stick.html#!/2011/02/gentoo-on-usb-stick.html
On 02/21/2014 01:13 PM, Francisco Ares wrote:
Hi,
I need to create a bootable flash stick, preferably using already
working Gentoo system (or at least most of it), which was tailored for
an embedded system.
Already googled around, but I would like to know if anyone has already
succeeded on
On 2014-02-21 8:34 AM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
On 02/21/2014 07:24 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2014-02-20 9:39 PM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
Indeed, Greg doesn't work for Red Hat. Prior to working for LF, however,
he worked for Novell, another for-profit Linux
On 2014-02-20 7:08 PM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
By striking the weakest part of the stack (sysv probably*did*
need a good replacement, but not one as ambitious as systemd) and
digging down into the kernel level (kdbus), Red Hat devs will now have a
very influential role in the
On 2014-02-20 8:03 PM, Facundo Curti facu.cu...@gmail.com wrote:
Fsacundo impolitely omitted attribution, so I have to add it back...
I said:
That is such total FUD I just can't even say anything else about it
without using some unsavory words.
You no need to be disrespectfull...
How was
On 02/21/2014 07:43 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2014-02-21 8:34 AM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
On 02/21/2014 07:24 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2014-02-20 9:39 PM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
Indeed, Greg doesn't work for Red Hat. Prior to working for LF,
however,
he worked
On 2014-02-20 10:36 PM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
Sorry, Canek, no offense was intended, but if you go back and re-read your
'extremely overly enthusiastic' post (this plus the content is why I
On 2014-02-21 8:54 AM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
If you think all profit is the same, then we are talking on two
different wavelengths.
I didn't say that. I said that *everyone* operates under the profit motive.
I recently needed to unmerge Netbeans and KDE from a machine. So removed
the top-level packages of those, and then ran:
emerge -a --depclean --jobs 20
However, --jobs is being ignored. So I'm sitting there, watching
hundreds of packages being unmerged one by one, taking a long time :-/
Is
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Alan McKinnon:
On 20/02/2014 22:41, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 08:52:07PM +0400, Andrew Savchenko
wrote:
And this point is one of the highest security benefits in real
world: one have non-standard binaries, not available
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2014-02-20 10:36 PM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
wrote:
So, please, don't take it as an insult. In fact you have done a very
Thanks, gonna try it
Francisco
2014-02-21 10:36 GMT-03:00 thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net:
On 02/21/2014 01:13 PM, Francisco Ares wrote:
Hi,
I need to create a bootable flash stick, preferably using already
working Gentoo system (or at least most of it), which was tailored for
an
On 2014-02-20 4:04 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
Thinking about this more, since apparently using a separate
profile may just be 'overkill', how about something simpler, like,
for example, using eselect...
Something like:
#
On 2014-02-21 9:28 AM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote:
It is one thing entirely to say you don't like some software, and
another thing entirely to obligate everyone else in the world to
never depend on it.
All myself and others have been insisting on is that systemd proponents
be
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 16:14:00 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras
rea...@gmail.com wrote:
I recently needed to unmerge Netbeans and KDE from a machine. So
removed the top-level packages of those, and then ran:
emerge -a --depclean --jobs 20
However, --jobs is being ignored. So I'm sitting there,
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:02:31 -0500
Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2014-02-20 10:36 PM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Tanstaafl
tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
Sorry, Canek, no offense was intended, but if you go back and
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:03:47 -0500
Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2014-02-21 8:54 AM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
If you think all profit is the same, then we are talking on two
different wavelengths.
I didn't say that. I said that *everyone* operates under the
On 2014-02-21 10:28 AM, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:03:47 -0500
Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2014-02-21 8:54 AM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
If you think all profit is the same, then we are talking on two
different wavelengths.
I
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:02:31 -0500
Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
As long as OpenRC is the default init system in Gentoo, it is on
those who want something *other* than OpenRC (ie, systemd) to do the
work of implementing it.
It's the job of whoever wants any init system to work to
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Tanstaafl:
On 2014-02-21 10:28 AM, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:03:47 -0500 Tanstaafl
tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2014-02-21 8:54 AM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us
wrote:
If you think all profit is the
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 10:32:41 +0100
András Csányi sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu wrote:
I bought a Lenovo y510p stuff which has two video cards, an Intel 4th
generation stuff and a NVIDIA GF GT750M SLI. When I start the
X -configure
the log says that it has not found usable driver, however in my
On 2014-02-21 11:23 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote:
Even someone who volunteers in the local soup kitchen feeding the
homeless is doing so under the profit motive. The things is, the
'profit' involved (may) only involve(s) a 'warm fuzzy good
feeling'.
If you read my previous words, I
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Tanstaafl:
On 2014-02-21 11:23 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote:
Even someone who volunteers in the local soup kitchen feeding
the homeless is doing so under the profit motive. The things
is, the 'profit' involved (may) only involve(s) a
On 02/20/2014 08:06 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
Thinking about this more, since apparently using a separate profile
may just be 'overkill', how about something simpler, like, for
example, using eselect...
Something like:
# eselect init list
Available init systems:
[1] OpenRC *
[2]
On 2014-02-21 12:17 PM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote:
Then you ignore self-destructive behaviour which is a common thing in
this world. It can even be intentional, causing no emotional,
financial, social or intellectual profit. Maybe you have never met
such a person or have never been in
On 2014-02-21 12:33 PM, thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net wrote:
On 02/20/2014 08:06 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
Thinking about this more, since apparently using a separate profile
may just be 'overkill', how about something simpler, like, for
example, using eselect...
Something like:
# eselect
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Tanstaafl:
On 2014-02-21 12:17 PM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote:
Then you ignore self-destructive behaviour which is a common
thing in this world. It can even be intentional, causing no
emotional, financial, social or intellectual profit.
On 2014-02-21 2:35 PM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote:
Tanstaafl:
On 2014-02-21 12:17 PM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote:
Then you ignore self-destructive behaviour which is a common
thing in this world. It can even be intentional, causing no
emotional, financial, social or
On Thu, February 20, 2014 06:34, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:00 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
On Tue, February 18, 2014 18:12, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
[ snip ]
Of course the larger a project is the *potential* number of bugs
increases, but so
On Thu, February 20, 2014 06:24, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:50 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
On Tue, February 18, 2014 15:37, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:54 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org
wrote:
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Same
On Fri, February 21, 2014 18:33, thegeezer wrote:
On 02/20/2014 08:06 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
snipped
.. setting systemd to log to syslog to make transitions smoother (as
logs are lost on reboot by default)
Eeerh, logs are lost on reboot?
I only had (it died last weekend) one (yes, ONE) machine
I'm looking for an application
to create flashcards for study.
It'd be great to run the creation software
on a gentoo workstation and then be able to download
the flash cards by category to either an Iphone
or an Android device...
On Thu, February 20, 2014 16:16, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 20/02/2014 11:16, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
20.02.2014 09:24, Canek Peláez Valdés пиÑеÑ:
[ snip ]
but I do not see the point, beyond as a nice gimmick.
Well, I *do* see a point. Many points, actually. You want the logs for
SSH,
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
(When I say I'm done, I mean it; I'm making an exception to explain
a mistake you made).
Firstly, you don't control whether or not I send an e-mail.
No, I don't; I never said that. This is a public non-moderated mailing
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote:
[ snip ]
If systemd truly is, as you say taking over and devouring the linux world
Mark, although I agree with much of your mail (but not all), I don't
think is fair how you are treating Tanstaafl; he never said that.
On 21.02.2014 08:42, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
So all talks about systemd being modular are nothing more than
nonsense. Guess what will happen on segfault in libsystemd.so?
Segfaults in pid 1 are so nice to bear...
And now with 209 there is a new systemd-networkd deamon that is started
by
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:40:46 -0600
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
But I'm going to save you some bucks: there is nothing fishy.
Carry on with the wires on the tin hat.
Regards.
Perfect. So that nails that bugaboo as well.
All is good, then, absolutely nothing to see
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 16:14:00 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
I recently needed to unmerge Netbeans and KDE from a machine. So
removed the top-level packages of those, and then ran:
emerge -a --depclean --jobs 20
However, --jobs is being ignored. So I'm sitting there, watching
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:32:07 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:
Ok, so, since it really is so simple, wouldn't it be easier to
implement this as an eselect module then, as opposed to creating a
bunch of separate profiles?
profiles handle USE flags, eselect does not. Of course, you can use
eselect to
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Andrew Savchenko birc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:08:43 -0600 Daniel Campbell wrote:
It's marginally clever, but so clearly obvious at the same time. It's
sad (to me) that the community didn't see it coming. Those who did have
been written off as
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 10:56:31 -0500
Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2014-02-21 10:28 AM, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:03:47 -0500
Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2014-02-21 8:54 AM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
If you
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 19:35:39 +
hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote:
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Tanstaafl:
On 2014-02-21 12:17 PM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote:
Then you ignore self-destructive behaviour which is a common
thing in this world. It can even be
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 2:14 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
On Thu, February 20, 2014 06:34, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:00 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
On Tue, February 18, 2014 18:12, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
[ snip ]
Of course
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Sebastian Beßler
sebast...@darkmetatron.de wrote:
On 21.02.2014 08:42, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
So all talks about systemd being modular are nothing more than
nonsense. Guess what will happen on segfault in libsystemd.so?
Segfaults in pid 1 are so nice to
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Michael Higgins li...@evolone.org wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:40:46 -0600
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
But I'm going to save you some bucks: there is nothing fishy.
Carry on with the wires on the tin hat.
Regards.
Perfect. So that
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Even self-destructive behavior is in the vast majority of
cases engaged in with the *intention* of profit. Best example I
can think of would be a drug addict/alcoholic. When they
use/drink, they 'profit' in that the feel better (albeit
Hi all. I'm new in the list, this is my third message :)
First at all, I need to say sorry if my english is not perfect. I speak
spanish. I post here because gentoo-user-es it's middle dead, and it's a
great chance to practice my english :) Now, the problem.
I'm going to get a new PC with a disc
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Facundo Curti facu.cu...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all. I'm new in the list, this is my third message :)
First at all, I need to say sorry if my english is not perfect. I speak
spanish. I post here because gentoo-user-es it's middle dead, and it's a
great chance to
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 12:41 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
[ snip ]
[1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/269586
[2] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/269628
Also, check [3], since the solution on [2] was unnecessarily complex.
Regards.
[3]
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 2:14 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
On Thu, February 20, 2014 06:34, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:00 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
On Tue,
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