Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 'Heartbleed' bug

2014-04-10 Thread Ralf
Hi, On 04/11/2014 12:55 AM, walt wrote: > Steve Gibson explained that the heartbeat feature was introduced in openssl to > allow *UDP* connections to mimic the 'keepalive' function of the TCP protocol. > > IIRC Steve didn't explain how UDP bugs can compromise TCP connections. > > Anyone here reall

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 'Heartbleed' bug

2014-04-10 Thread Chris Walters
On 4/10/2014 6:59 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Steve Gibson explained that the heartbeat feature was introduced in openssl to allow *UDP* connections to mimic the 'keepalive' function of the TCP protocol. IIRC Steve didn't explain how UDP bugs can compromise TCP connections. Anyone here really unde

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 'Heartbleed' bug

2014-04-10 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 03:55:47PM -0700, walt wrote: > On 04/09/2014 05:06 PM, Joseph wrote: > > Is gentoo effected by this new 'Heartbleed' bug? > > > > "The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in the popular OpenSSL > > cryptographic software library" > > > > http://heartbleed.com/

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 'Heartbleed' bug

2014-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/04/2014 00:55, walt wrote: > On 04/09/2014 05:06 PM, Joseph wrote: >> Is gentoo effected by this new 'Heartbleed' bug? >> >> "The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in the popular OpenSSL >> cryptographic software library" >> >> http://heartbleed.com/ > > This topic was discussed

[gentoo-user] Re: 'Heartbleed' bug

2014-04-10 Thread walt
On 04/09/2014 05:06 PM, Joseph wrote: > Is gentoo effected by this new 'Heartbleed' bug? > > "The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in the popular OpenSSL > cryptographic software library" > > http://heartbleed.com/ This topic was discussed in my favorite podcast, http://twit.tv/sn

Re: [gentoo-user] What MTA to use to receiving mail for local users?

2014-04-10 Thread Carlos Sura
I would say postfix for sure. On 10 April 2014 16:52, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 10/04/2014 17:41, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Am 10.04.2014 17:32, schrieb Grant Edwards: > >> I use msmtp for outgoing mail, and plan to continue to do so. > >> > >> However, I need to temporarily set up an SMT

Re: [gentoo-user] What MTA to use to receiving mail for local users?

2014-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/04/2014 17:41, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 10.04.2014 17:32, schrieb Grant Edwards: >> I use msmtp for outgoing mail, and plan to continue to do so. >> >> However, I need to temporarily set up an SMTP server to accept >> incoming mail from "the Internet" for local users. It is not going

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What MTA to use to receiving mail for local users?

2014-04-10 Thread Alan Mackenzie
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 08:09:48PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: > qmail hasn't been touched since 2007, so it seems to be abandoned. That's somewhat of an exaggeration. qmail has been public domain since 2007, and its core hadn't been touched for about a decade before that. Due to the way the pro

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What MTA to use to receiving mail for local users?

2014-04-10 Thread hasufell
Grant Edwards: > On 2014-04-10, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Thursday 10 Apr 2014 17:41:05 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> >>> well, IMHO postfix is pretty easy to setup up. While sendmail is a >>> complete nightmare. >> >> I've just about got it set up here, so it can't be too hard. >> >>> Exim&qma

[gentoo-user] Re: What MTA to use to receiving mail for local users?

2014-04-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-04-10, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday 10 Apr 2014 17:41:05 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >> well, IMHO postfix is pretty easy to setup up. While sendmail is a >> complete nightmare. > > I've just about got it set up here, so it can't be too hard. > >> Exim&qmail - never touched those.

Re: [gentoo-user] What MTA to use to receiving mail for local users?

2014-04-10 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 10 Apr 2014 17:41:05 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > well, IMHO postfix is pretty easy to setup up. While sendmail is a > complete nightmare. I've just about got it set up here, so it can't be too hard. > Exim&qmail - never touched those. Are they even still maintained? -- Regards P

Re: [gentoo-user] What MTA to use to receiving mail for local users?

2014-04-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 10.04.2014 17:32, schrieb Grant Edwards: > I use msmtp for outgoing mail, and plan to continue to do so. > > However, I need to temporarily set up an SMTP server to accept > incoming mail from "the Internet" for local users. It is not going to > handle sending of email, and I need it _not_ to i

[gentoo-user] What MTA to use to receiving mail for local users?

2014-04-10 Thread Grant Edwards
I use msmtp for outgoing mail, and plan to continue to do so. However, I need to temporarily set up an SMTP server to accept incoming mail from "the Internet" for local users. It is not going to handle sending of email, and I need it _not_ to install something as /usr/bin/sendmail (that's already

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ---p --depclean - check me...

2014-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/04/2014 15:26, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 4/10/2014 7:21 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Everything else in that list is routine except maybe pciutils and gpm. >> Add them to world manually if you use those apps > > Thanks Alan/Tom... > > Hmmm... what is pciutils used for? From a little googling, i

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ---p --depclean - check me...

2014-04-10 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > Hmmm... what is pciutils used for? From a little googling, it seems like it > is a tool that I would manually have to use, not something required by the > system itself for anything that happens automatically (ie, at boot time)? > It provides th

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ---p --depclean - check me...

2014-04-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 4/10/2014 7:21 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Everything else in that list is routine except maybe pciutils and gpm. Add them to world manually if you use those apps Thanks Alan/Tom... Hmmm... what is pciutils used for? From a little googling, it seems like it is a tool that I would manually ha

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ---p --depclean - check me...

2014-04-10 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:51:39 +0530 Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > seems alright except virtual/init That is a virtual that is no longer used, it is thus safe to remove. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ---p --depclean - check me...

2014-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/04/2014 13:16, Tanstaafl wrote: > Hi all, > > I rarely do this (I know, I should do it periodically at least), so I'd > like someone to check these... > These are the packages that would be unmerged: > > dev-python/python-exec > selected: 1.1 1.2 >protected: none >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ---p --depclean - check me...

2014-04-10 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Apr 10, 2014 4:48 PM, "Tanstaafl" wrote: > > Hi all, > > I rarely do this (I know, I should do it periodically at least), so I'd like someone to check these... > > >>> These are the packages that would be unmerged: > > dev-python/python-exec > selected: 1.1 1.2 >protected: none

[gentoo-user] emerge ---p --depclean - check me...

2014-04-10 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, I rarely do this (I know, I should do it periodically at least), so I'd like someone to check these... >>> These are the packages that would be unmerged: dev-python/python-exec selected: 1.1 1.2 protected: none omitted: none perl-core/ExtUtils-Command select

Re: [gentoo-user] 'Heartbleed' bug

2014-04-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:52:21 +, Matthew Finkel wrote: > Right. heartbleed does not directly affect openssh, but openssh uses > openssl and it's good practice to keep the shared libraries on-disk and > the shared libraries in-memory in sync. The easiest way to do that is with app-admin/checkre

Re: [gentoo-user] 'Heartbleed' bug

2014-04-10 Thread Ján Zahornadský
Exactly, OpenSSH depends on OpenSSL, but should never use the buggy code. Some details in the answer here: http://superuser.com/questions/739349/does-heartbleed-affect-ssh-keys On 04/10/2014 07:00 PM, Randolph Maaßen wrote: > The Heartbleed bug is in the Heartbeat function of TSL (a second keep

Re: [gentoo-user] 'Heartbleed' bug

2014-04-10 Thread Randolph Maaßen
The Heartbleed bug is in the Heartbeat function of TSL (a second keep alive). OpenSSL does not use TLS for transport security, it uses its own Protokoll for security. 2014-04-10 12:51 GMT+02:00 Nilesh Govindrajan : > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Matthew Finkel > wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014

Re: [gentoo-user] 'Heartbleed' bug

2014-04-10 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Matthew Finkel wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 05:53:44PM +0800, J?n Zahornadsk? wrote: >> On 04/10/2014 05:03 PM, Adam Carter wrote: >> > >> > What surprises me here is OpenSSH. It's not supposed to use OpenSSL >> > but Debian update process suggests to r

Re: [gentoo-user] 'Heartbleed' bug

2014-04-10 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 05:53:44PM +0800, J?n Zahornadsk? wrote: > On 04/10/2014 05:03 PM, Adam Carter wrote: > > > > What surprises me here is OpenSSH. It's not supposed to use OpenSSL > > but Debian update process suggests to restart it after updating > > OpenSSL to a fixed version.

Re: [gentoo-user] 'Heartbleed' bug

2014-04-10 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Wed, 9 Apr 2014 18:06:35 -0600 schrieb Joseph : > Is gentoo effected by this new 'Heartbleed' bug? > > "The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in the popular OpenSSL > cryptographic software library" > > http://heartbleed.com/ Just FYI: security issues such as this get announced

Re: [gentoo-user] 'Heartbleed' bug

2014-04-10 Thread Ján Zahornadský
On 04/10/2014 05:03 PM, Adam Carter wrote: > > What surprises me here is OpenSSH. It's not supposed to use OpenSSL > but Debian update process suggests to restart it after updating > OpenSSL to a fixed version. Is it an overkill on their part? It > might confuse admins. > > > ada

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Snort handbook is out of date

2014-04-10 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 09 Apr 2014 09:49:40 I wrote: > On Tuesday 08 Apr 2014 18:25:34 Tom Wijsman wrote: > > On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 15:25:31 +0100 > > > > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > I just wanted to save some time and confusion for anyone wanting to > > > dip a toe into the muddy snort waters. > > > > You

Re: [gentoo-user] 'Heartbleed' bug

2014-04-10 Thread Adam Carter
> What surprises me here is OpenSSH. It's not supposed to use OpenSSL but > Debian update process suggests to restart it after updating OpenSSL to a > fixed version. Is it an overkill on their part? It might confuse admins. > > > adam@proxy ~ $ ldd /usr/sbin/sshd linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7fffb068