Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [~amd64] NFS server broken again :(

2014-11-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Tom H wrote: > > AIUI, "After=network.target" (and similarly "After=syslog.target") is > equivalent to having "Wants=network.service NetworkManager.service > " and "After=network.service > NetworkManager.service ". Actually, as far as I understand things, if you do

Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels

2014-11-02 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday 02 November 2014 18:05:29 Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Peter Humphrey >>> >>> My grub-0.99 lets me choose from four kernels and two or three run > levels >>> at boot time, and grub-2 can't handle this yet, or it

Re: [gentoo-user] Raiders of the lost package...

2014-11-02 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 1:10 AM, wrote: > > Debain everywhere... > Ubuntu everywhere... > > "To use this library just do a apt-get build-essential, apt-get this > and apt-get that...your done". It's a metapackage to install compilation and packaging packages. So the Gentoo equivalent is "skip" th

Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels

2014-11-02 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > That makes perfect sense. I still have systems using the old grub. It works > so why mess with it? However, I may give gummiboot a whirl, especially as > UEFI let's your multiple bootloader. I use gummiboot on my laptop and like it, but it

Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels

2014-11-02 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 5:47 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel > wrote: >> >> You guys should check out the ELK stack: >> http://www.elasticsearch.org/overview/ >> >> Basically, transform logs to JSON with logstash, throw the JSON into >> elastic search, a

Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels

2014-11-02 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > > You guys should check out the ELK stack: > http://www.elasticsearch.org/overview/ > > Basically, transform logs to JSON with logstash, throw the JSON into > elastic search, and make plots with Kibana. We use it at work; it's > absolutely

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [~amd64] NFS server broken again :(

2014-11-02 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Tom H wrote: >> >> Do you have an example of a service that uses "After=" but doesn't >> need a "Requires=" or a "Wants="? I'm either being unimaginative or >> plain dumb, but I can't think of any. > > sshd.se

Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels

2014-11-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 02 November 2014 18:05:29 Tom H wrote: > On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Peter Humphrey > > > My grub-0.99 lets me choose from four kernels and two or three run levels > > at boot time, and grub-2 can't handle this yet, or it couldn't the last > > time I checked. I don't suggest that

Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels

2014-11-02 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Tom H wrote: >> The systemd line was always that if you wanted to ship your logs off >> to another box, use rsyslog. So I've never understood the embedding of >> an httpd in systemd. I guess that the httpd s

[gentoo-user] terminal spreadsheet - sc fork

2014-11-02 Thread Andrés Martinelli
Hello there!! I am working on a terminal spreadsheet based on "sc", but with some adds like undo/redo.. you can find it here: https://github.com/andmarti1424/scim Any new ideas and/or contribution is always welcome! Thanks! -- Andrés M.

Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels

2014-11-02 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 31 October 2014 15:09:26 J. Roeleveld wrote: >> >> I've got a few systems where grub1 doesn't work. This is more likely caused >> by some changes in used filesystems instead of any other cause. >> If I really wanted to, I might ge

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT Best way to compress files with digits

2014-11-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 02 November 2014 21:55:31 Alan McKinnon wrote: > English is a heavily overloaded language and there's always more > than one way to communicate something Even the simplest cases usually have three words for the same thing: one from French, one from Latin and one from Anglo-Saxon. I won

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT Best way to compress files with digits

2014-11-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/11/2014 23:56, David W Noon wrote: >> The sequence of digits that make up pi are a random sequence - you >> > can analyze the order any way you want and you'll find no inherent >> > pattern. > Actually, the sequence of digits is most definitely *not* random. If > the sequence of digits is wr

[gentoo-user] Re: Strange reaction of gvim to : in a normal mode

2014-11-02 Thread Gevisz
From: Gevisz To: Gevisz , vim_...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Strange reaction of gvim to : in a normal mode Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 20:44:21 +0200 On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 14:51:24 +0200 Gevisz wrote: > I use gvim from xfce4 and sometimes get into a strange > situation when pressing : while being in

Re: [gentoo-user] etiquette for stabilization request

2014-11-02 Thread Matti Nykyri
> On Nov 2, 2014, at 17:10, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > > I am running firefox-24.8.0, which is highest stable (highest testing is > 33.0). > > Several sites, in particular mail.google.com, report that "This version > of Firefox is no longer supported. Please upgrade to a supported > browser". >

[gentoo-user] Re: etiquette for stabilization request

2014-11-02 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 10:10:34 -0500, gottlieb wrote: > I am running firefox-24.8.0, which is highest stable (highest testing is > 33.0). > > Several sites, in particular mail.google.com, report that "This version > of Firefox is no longer supported. Please upgrade to a supported > browser". > > D

Re: [gentoo-user] etiquette for stabilization request

2014-11-02 Thread Gevisz
On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 10:10:34 -0500 gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > I am running firefox-24.8.0, which is highest stable (highest testing is > 33.0). > > Several sites, in particular mail.google.com, report that "This version > of Firefox is no longer supported. Please upgrade to a supported > browser".

Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels

2014-11-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On 2 November 2014 13:14:56 WET, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 01.11.2014 um 23:28 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > > On 1 November 2014 17:19:18 WET, Peter Humphrey > > wrote: > > > > On Saturday 01 November 2014 15:38:43 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > One useful feature for me is that gru

[gentoo-user] etiquette for stabilization request

2014-11-02 Thread gottlieb
I am running firefox-24.8.0, which is highest stable (highest testing is 33.0). Several sites, in particular mail.google.com, report that "This version of Firefox is no longer supported. Please upgrade to a supported browser". Does that warrant a stabilization request. I have never filed one bef

Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels

2014-11-02 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 01.11.2014 um 23:28 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On 1 November 2014 17:19:18 WET, Peter Humphrey > wrote: > > On Saturday 01 November 2014 15:38:43 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > One useful feature for me is that grub2 will boot from an ISO > image, I always keep system rescue cd imag

[gentoo-user] Strange reaction of gvim to : in a normal mode

2014-11-02 Thread Gevisz
I use gvim from xfce4 and sometimes get into a strange situation when pressing : while being in a normal mode leads not to the command line mode but instead highlights the icon "Copy to clipboad". Just now I have noted that in this situation I also cannot see the version of my gvim via the Help me

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT Best way to compress files with digits

2014-11-02 Thread Matti Nykyri
> On Nov 1, 2014, at 23:56, David W Noon wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 22:47:15 +0200, Alan Mckinnon > (alan.mckin...@gmail.com) wrote about "Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT Best > way to compress files with digits" (in <545546d3.3030...@gmail.com>):

[gentoo-user] KDE monitor configuration disappeared!

2014-11-02 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
I updated to KDE 4.11.13/4.14.2 and in the middle of the emerge, my monitor's resolution was changed from 1920x1080 to 640x480. After the emerge I simply restarted. The system booted into a KDE with 640x480. I went to the System Settings application and into the "Display and Monitor" section to

Re: [gentoo-user] Raiders of the lost package...

2014-11-02 Thread meino . cramer
Hello, ***LIFESAVER*** !!! :) Thanx A LOT! Sunday is rescued! 8))) Best regards, Meino Masanori Ogino [14-11-02 09:28]: > Hello. > > Installing sys-apps/i2c-tools with `python` USE flag will install smbus > Python module so-called `python-smbus` in Debian. > > 2014-11-02 16:54 GMT+09:00 : >

Re: [gentoo-user] Raiders of the lost package...

2014-11-02 Thread meino . cramer
Neil Bothwick [14-11-02 10:08]: > On 2 November 2014 06:10:11 WET, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Debain everywhere... > > Ubuntu everywhere... > > > > "To use this library just do a apt-get build-essential, apt-get this > > and apt-get that...your done". > > > > Hrrrmpppfff > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Raiders of the lost package...

2014-11-02 Thread Masanori Ogino
Hello. Installing sys-apps/i2c-tools with `python` USE flag will install smbus Python module so-called `python-smbus` in Debian. 2014-11-02 16:54 GMT+09:00 : > Dale [14-11-02 08:44]: > > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Debain everywhere... > > > Ubuntu everywhere... > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Raiders of the lost package...

2014-11-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On 2 November 2014 06:10:11 WET, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > Debain everywhere... > Ubuntu everywhere... > > "To use this library just do a apt-get build-essential, apt-get this > and apt-get that...your done". > > Hrrrmpppfff > > What the heck is "build-essential?" What's hidden b

Re: [gentoo-user] Raiders of the lost package...

2014-11-02 Thread meino . cramer
Dale [14-11-02 08:44]: > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Debain everywhere... > > Ubuntu everywhere... > > > > "To use this library just do a apt-get build-essential, apt-get this > > and apt-get that...your done". > > > > Hrrrmpppfff > > > > What the heck is "build-essential?" What

Re: [gentoo-user] Raiders of the lost package...

2014-11-02 Thread Dale
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > Debain everywhere... > Ubuntu everywhere... > > "To use this library just do a apt-get build-essential, apt-get this > and apt-get that...your done". > > Hrrrmpppfff > > What the heck is "build-essential?" What's hidden behind it? > > I am currently facing a