Re: [gentoo-user]ask for installation help!

2014-11-21 Thread Paul Klos
Op vrijdag, november 21, 2014 14:57:57 schreef Giant Y: Hello, I am a Debian user and now want to try gentoo. Firstly, I install gentoo in Virtual box for practice. I follow the quick install guide on http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-quickinstall.xml. Unluckily, this guide cannot help

Re: [gentoo-user]ask for installation help!

2014-11-21 Thread wraeth
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 02:57:57PM +0800, Giant Y wrote: Firstly, I install gentoo in Virtual box for practice. I follow the quick install guide onA http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-quickinstall.xml. Unluckily, I would actually recommend going through the handbook for your

Re: [gentoo-user]ask for installation help!

2014-11-21 Thread Giant Y
Thank you. The problem solved. - posted by *Giant Y* On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 6:34 PM, wraeth wra...@wraeth.id.au wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 02:57:57PM +0800, Giant Y wrote: Firstly, I install gentoo in Virtual box for practice. I follow the quick install guide onA

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:32 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: It's actually a great thing for a lot of use cases. But it doesn't seem that Gentoo will change defaults soon, although systemd works great with it. My (personal) sense is that in the medium-term we may end up moving

[gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

2014-11-21 Thread behrouz khosravi
Hi. My problem is that when I log off from gentoo and login to windows, my headphone does not work in windows. Has anyone encountered the same problem?

Re: [gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

2014-11-21 Thread Matti Nykyri
On Nov 21, 2014, at 14:08, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. My problem is that when I log off from gentoo and login to windows, my headphone does not work in windows. Has anyone encountered the same problem? Do you reboot in the between or are you running somekind of

Re: [gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

2014-11-21 Thread the
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 21/11/14 16:07, Matti Nykyri wrote: Do you reboot in the between or are you running somekind of virtual machine? Usb headphones or what? What sound driver? I've had problems with NIC between reboots. They were cleared by removing power cord

Re: [gentoo-user]ask for installation help!

2014-11-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday, November 21, 2014 09:34:30 PM wraeth wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 02:57:57PM +0800, Giant Y wrote: Firstly, I install gentoo in Virtual box for practice. I follow the quick install guide onA http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-quickinstall.xml. Unluckily,

Re: [gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

2014-11-21 Thread behrouz khosravi
Do you reboot in the between or are you running somekind of virtual machine? Usb headphones or what? What sound driver? I've had problems with NIC between reboots. They were cleared by removing power cord for multiple minutes while rebooting. I got rid of the problem when i updated NIC's driver

Re: [gentoo-user]ask for installation help!

2014-11-21 Thread Paul Klos
Op vrijdag, november 21, 2014 14:06:24 schreef J. Roeleveld: I use VirtualBox on my laptop for testing and haven't had to add anything to GRUB_PLATFORMS ever. Strange, I couldn't get grub2-install to run without diving into GRUB_PLATFORMS. I installed not too long ago and I've had to

Re: [gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

2014-11-21 Thread Matti Nykyri
On Nov 21, 2014, at 16:15, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: Do you reboot in the between or are you running somekind of virtual machine? Usb headphones or what? What sound driver? I've had problems with NIC between reboots. They were cleared by removing power cord for

Re: [gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

2014-11-21 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Nov 21, 2014 6:23 PM, Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi wrote: On Nov 21, 2014, at 16:15, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: Do you reboot in the between or are you running somekind of virtual machine? Usb headphones or what? What sound driver? I've had problems with NIC between

Re: [gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

2014-11-21 Thread Ivan T. Ivanov
On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 18:38 +0330, behrouz khosravi wrote: Well I have no problem with it in linux. It always works in linux but I think there is a problem with alsa or some other linux related part. Because I have enabled the after post sound in bios. When I power in on the headphone

Re: [gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

2014-11-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 21/11/2014 17:08, behrouz khosravi wrote: On Nov 21, 2014 6:23 PM, Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi mailto:matti.nyk...@iki.fi wrote: On Nov 21, 2014, at 16:15, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com mailto:bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: Do you reboot in the between or are you running

Re: [gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

2014-11-21 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Nov 21, 2014 6:50 PM, Ivan T. Ivanov iiva...@mm-sol.com wrote: On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 18:38 +0330, behrouz khosravi wrote: Well I have no problem with it in linux. It always works in linux but I think there is a problem with alsa or some other linux related part. Because I have enabled

Re: [gentoo-user] Iron penguin on usb?

2014-11-21 Thread wireless
On 11/20/14 14:40, David Abbott wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 2:21 PM, thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net wrote: On 19/11/14 22:15, James wrote: Hello, Ok the latest release of livedvd is here: https://www.gentoo.org/news/20140826-livedvd.xml So my understanding is you can put this on a

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: new thinkpad with Gentoo

2014-11-21 Thread wireless
On 11/20/14 15:20, Daniel Frey wrote: On 11/20/2014 11:16 AM, thegeezer wrote: yeah at first it's odd, but then when you start getting used to navigating without removing hands from keyboard it does become almost a prerequisite. does anyone know if you can get usb keyboards that have the

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-21 Thread wireless
On 11/21/14 07:00, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:32 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: It's actually a great thing for a lot of use cases. But it doesn't seem that Gentoo will change defaults soon, although systemd works great with it. My (personal) sense is that

Re: [gentoo-user]ask for installation help!

2014-11-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Fri, November 21, 2014 15:35, Paul Klos wrote: Op vrijdag, november 21, 2014 14:06:24 schreef J. Roeleveld: I use VirtualBox on my laptop for testing and haven't had to add anything to GRUB_PLATFORMS ever. Strange, I couldn't get grub2-install to run without diving into GRUB_PLATFORMS.

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: new thinkpad with Gentoo

2014-11-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-11-20, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 20.11.2014 um 15:37 schrieb Sid S: In a similar vein, I would suggest https://system76.com/laptops. I found them after I purchased my laptop. Had I known, I likely would have gone with them and purchased their most expensive model.

[gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-21 Thread James
Here's one, very, very interesting proposals, under serious consideration: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Distributed_Gentoo I'd be curious what the fine and wonderful folks at gentoo_user think of this proposal. Old farts are welcome to comment, even encourage to constructively rant

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-21 Thread Philip Webb
141121 Rich Freeman wrote: My personal sense is that in the medium-term we may end up moving to not having any default at all, just as with bootloaders, kernels, syslog, crontab, mail etc. That is pretty-much the Gentoo way everywhere else when there are options. As you already pointed out,

Re: [gentoo-user]ask for installation help!

2014-11-21 Thread Philip Webb
141121 Giant Y wrote: Hello, I am a Debian user and now want to try Gentoo. The first of many, hopefully (grin) ! Others have quickly helped you solve your problem, as is typical here, but there is also the long-standing Lilo, which continues to suit me. I don't know whether it has any

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-21 Thread Michael Brinkman
I may be misunderstanding, but isn't this cutting back the centralized development and a pushing for more extensive use of overlays? To me overlays cause a problem with packages overlapping each other too much because its the way their maintainers' ebuilds are written. If anything, I'd suggest

[gentoo-user] I shoot into my own feet: dhcpd installed...

2014-11-21 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, (still struggling with my Arietta board...;) I did something really stupid: I emerged dhcpd on my Arietta G25 board (which runs Gentoo of course :) and rebooted...without configuring it (or anything else). BEFORE this [CENSORED] action /etc/conf.d/net was set to assign a static IP to usb0,

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:34 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Here's one, very, very interesting proposals, under serious consideration: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Distributed_Gentoo I'd be curious what the fine and wonderful folks at gentoo_user think of this proposal. Old

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-21 Thread Paige Thompson
On 11/21/14 07:31, Marc Stürmer wrote: Am 21.11.2014 um 08:17 schrieb Paige Thompson: I just read an article that says systemd is taking over linux and linux is not linux anymore: http://blog.lusis.org/blog/2014/11/20/systemd-redux/ I kinda have to agree which is partially why I'm not using

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:39 PM, wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Regardless, the smaller, cheaper embedded linux crowd is very unlikely to ever embrace systemd. Why? Glad you asks. Thousands of reasons, but, here are a few: It is very common in embedded (anything) to run multiple and often

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-21 Thread Paige Thompson
On 11/21/14 07:32, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 1:17 AM, Paige Thompson erra...@yourstruly.sx wrote: I just read an article that says systemd is taking over linux and linux is not linux anymore: http://blog.lusis.org/blog/2014/11/20/systemd-redux/ I highly recommend the

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-21 Thread Paige Thompson
On 11/21/14 18:14, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:34 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Here's one, very, very interesting proposals, under serious consideration: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Distributed_Gentoo I'd be curious what the fine and wonderful folks at

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: new thinkpad with Gentoo

2014-11-21 Thread Peter Weilbacher
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014, thegeezer wrote: On 20/11/14 18:19, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: But I like that trackpoint yeah at first it's odd, but then when you start getting used to navigating without removing hands from keyboard it does become almost a prerequisite. Just that it's pretty

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-21 Thread Paige Thompson
On 11/21/14 17:39, wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: On 11/21/14 07:00, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:32 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: It's actually a great thing for a lot of use cases. But it doesn't seem that Gentoo will change defaults soon, although

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-21 Thread Paige Thompson
On 11/21/14 18:20, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:39 PM, wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Regardless, the smaller, cheaper embedded linux crowd is very unlikely to ever embrace systemd. Why? Glad you asks. Thousands of reasons, but, here are a few: It is very common in

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: new thinkpad with Gentoo

2014-11-21 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 21.11.2014 um 20:06 schrieb Peter Weilbacher: On 20/11/14 18:19, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: But I like that trackpoint yeah at first it's odd, but then when you start getting used to navigating without removing hands from keyboard it does become almost a prerequisite. Just that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new thinkpad with Gentoo

2014-11-21 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 21.11.2014 um 18:25 schrieb Grant Edwards: Interesting. I ask for thinkpads and get two answers pointing to other brands ;-) You did not ask for/about thinkpads. You said you were currently running thinkpads. You did not say that you wanted to replace them with new thinkpads, just

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: new thinkpad with Gentoo

2014-11-21 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 20.11.2014 um 21:16 schrieb Daniel Frey: On 11/20/2014 11:16 AM, thegeezer wrote: yeah at first it's odd, but then when you start getting used to navigating without removing hands from keyboard it does become almost a prerequisite. does anyone know if you can get usb keyboards that have

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-21 Thread wireless
On 11/21/14 14:00, Paige Thompson wrote: On 11/21/14 18:14, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:34 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Here's one, very, very interesting proposals, under serious consideration: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Distributed_Gentoo I'd be curious

Re: [gentoo-user] Iron penguin on usb?

2014-11-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 21 Nov 2014 11:59:13 -0500, wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: If so, we now have a great/easy recruiting tool for (new) folks to test out gentoo. Another questions is has anyone seen reliable/valid benchmarks on usb sticks to see which is faster? Is usb3 the fastest and they are all

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 5:40 PM, wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Interesting perspective that I had not considered... still, I think there is more at play here. It sounds as if a few chosen old guard are going to kick out more of the progressive and newer devs so that these few. control the

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-21 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Fri, 21 Nov 2014 01:32:16 -0600 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com: [...] I highly recommend the article John Corbet wrote for LWN a week ago: http://lwn.net/Articles/619992/ [...] Thanks for the link, it was a good read. FWIW, I found this linked in one of the comments:

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-21 Thread wireless
On 11/21/14 17:10, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 5:40 PM, wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Interesting perspective that I had not considered... still, I think there is more at play here. It sounds as if a few chosen old guard are going to kick out more of the progressive and newer

Re: [gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

2014-11-21 Thread Mick
On Friday 21 Nov 2014 15:24:43 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 21/11/2014 17:08, behrouz khosravi wrote: On Nov 21, 2014 6:23 PM, Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi mailto:matti.nyk...@iki.fi wrote: On Nov 21, 2014, at 16:15, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com mailto:bz.khosr...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 7:13 PM, wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: On 11/21/14 17:10, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 5:40 PM, wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Interesting perspective that I had not considered... still, I think there is more at play here. It sounds as if a few