Re: [gentoo-user] Something firewall-ish

2014-12-16 Thread thegeezer
On 15/12/14 20:39, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 15/12/2014 18:47, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, this question is not related to a fully fledged, big local area network with DMZs and such. Even the word firewall seems to be a little too huge and mighty in this context to me. The network

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

2014-12-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 02:12:06 PM behrouz khosravi wrote: Hello everyone. I was trying to get native optimus support for my laptop using the Nvidia driver, but after startx the screen goes black for some several seconds and xserver exits. The output messages are attached. I just

Re: [gentoo-user] moving over to nouveau drivers [solved]

2014-12-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.12.2014 um 11:45 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 15.12.2014 um 11:03 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: gnome-control-center shows both but enabling the 2nd simply doesn't work. This is all without trying to use wayland! Just plain gnome ... I even tried the kernel-options to enable the

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

2014-12-16 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 2:38 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 02:12:06 PM behrouz khosravi wrote: Hello everyone. I was trying to get native optimus support for my laptop using the Nvidia driver, but after startx the screen goes black for some

Re: [gentoo-user] moving over to nouveau drivers [solved]

2014-12-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 16.12.2014 um 12:51 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: I don't get wayland running here ... see the attached log of a failing attempt. update: gnome-session on wayland running after using this: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=532566

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

2014-12-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 03:25:08 PM behrouz khosravi wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 2:38 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 02:12:06 PM behrouz khosravi wrote: Hello everyone. I was trying to get native optimus support for my laptop using the

Re: [gentoo-user] Something firewall-ish

2014-12-16 Thread Pandu Poluan
On 17:54, Tue, Dec 16, 2014 thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net wrote: On 15/12/14 20:39, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 15/12/2014 18:47, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, this question is not related to a fully fledged, big local area network with DMZs and such. Even the word firewall seems to be a

[gentoo-user] new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

2014-12-16 Thread Harry Putnam
After installing piles of X related pkgs including all the lxde pkgs: [I] lxde-base/lxde-common [I] lxde-base/lxde-icon-theme [I] lxde-base/lxde-meta When pressing the all important `run' item in the lxde main menu (at left of bottom panel), it does nothing more than flash the bottom panel.

[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

2014-12-16 Thread James
Harry Putnam reader at newsguy.com writes: After installing piles of X related pkgs including all the lxde pkgs: Any ideas? lxde is deprecated, imho. [1] lxqt is the future of that lineage [2] [1] http://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/message/32927295/ [2] http://lxqt.org/ You may want

[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

2014-12-16 Thread James
James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: You may want to read the entire bug there on the remaining issues with lxqt-8. From what I gather there are problems upgradeing an existing lxde setup; but installing lxqt 8.0 or 1.0 as a fresh install is working for most. ymmv. Oops, Forgot the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

2014-12-16 Thread Michael Vetter
lxde is deprecated, imho. [1] lxqt is the future of that lineage [2] [1] http://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/message/32927295/ [2] http://lxqt.org/ LXDE is still in development, LXQt is just a new project by some people who also developed LXDE. [3] When pressing the all important `run'

Re: [gentoo-user] FAT32 USB not showing/mounting

2014-12-16 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 1:54 AM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/15/14 18:17, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Joseph [1]syscon...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/15/14 09:19, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 22:37:58 -0700, Joseph wrote: I

[gentoo-user] CI Continuous Integration

2014-12-16 Thread James
Well, For all of those who are interested in Continuous Integration, especially with the demise of Tinderbox, Look at what I just stumbled (googling) across Zentoo Linux also provides a bunch of experimental overlays for special setups (like Continuous Integration system needing X11 and

[gentoo-user] Re: unix philosophy question for old farts: the original purpose for /tmp ?

2014-12-16 Thread walt
On 12/15/2014 11:17 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 16/12/2014 02:17, walt wrote: I confess I've never thought much about why /tmp exists, but today I was inconvenienced when an end-user utility (uudeview) ran out of space on /tmp while doing an ordinary end-user task processing very large

[gentoo-user] how to get accessibility packages for qt5

2014-12-16 Thread covici
Hi. I want to start fooling with some qt packages because I understand that particularly qt5 is much more accessible these days, but I don't see any qt-at-spi2 packages in the tree -- is it built into the core, or am I missing something? Thanks. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to

[gentoo-user] Gentoo repositories (Zugaina)

2014-12-16 Thread James
Howdy, I just ran 'layman -L' and see that most repositories are now running git. However, zugaina, is not (yet?). Aren't they all going to (suppose to) migrate to git? I was able to use layman to sync zugaina [1]. But, eix-update failed extensively on the zugaina overlay. Comments from

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

2014-12-16 Thread behrouz khosravi
The idea of Optimus is to use the lower-spec GPU for the general activities and only enable the higher-spec GPU (NVidia) for processes requiring the extra processing power (generally 3D games or rendering). Using bumblebee, you can start an application using optirun application. The

[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

2014-12-16 Thread James
Michael Vetter michael.vetter at uni-konstanz.de writes: lxde is deprecated, imho. [1] LXDE is still in development, LXQt is just a new project by some people who also developed LXDE. [3] Yes, the tenor has changed over the months to keep the base of users in tact. But, if you read the

[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

2014-12-16 Thread Harry Putnam
James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com writes: lxde is deprecated, imho. [1] lxqt is the future of that lineage [2] Sounds like propaganda rather rather than any sort of answer to the question.

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo repositories (Zugaina)

2014-12-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/12/2014 20:10, James wrote: Howdy, I just ran 'layman -L' and see that most repositories are now running git. However, zugaina, is not (yet?). Aren't they all going to (suppose to) migrate to git? Overlays maintainers are supposed to do whatever they feel like. This includes using

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: unix philosophy question for old farts: the original purpose for /tmp ?

2014-12-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/12/2014 20:05, walt wrote: On 12/15/2014 11:17 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 16/12/2014 02:17, walt wrote: I confess I've never thought much about why /tmp exists, but today I was inconvenienced when an end-user utility (uudeview) ran out of space on /tmp while doing an ordinary end-user

[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

2014-12-16 Thread James
Harry Putnam reader at newsguy.com writes: James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: lxde is deprecated, imho. [1] lxqt is the future of that lineage [2] Sounds like propaganda rather rather than any sort of answer to the question. OK, if that is true, who is answering your questions

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

2014-12-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 16 December 2014 19:11:43 CET, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: The idea of Optimus is to use the lower-spec GPU for the general activities and only enable the higher-spec GPU (NVidia) for processes requiring the extra processing power (generally 3D games or rendering).

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo repositories (Zugaina)

2014-12-16 Thread James
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: But, eix-update failed extensively on the zugaina overlay. error messages? The entire zugaina repo fails on 'eix-update' all of the other repos are fine, even my local repo with 'eix-update' too numerous to grab top. Here's a few

[gentoo-user] html5 no longer working in firefox

2014-12-16 Thread covici
Hi. I have found since my latest update that html5 is getting no audio in firefox. I am not sure what libraries are involved in this -- I downgraded firefox to 31.3.0, compiled with debug, but no error messages. It worked in early November so it must have been some update, but I can't figure

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo repositories (Zugaina)

2014-12-16 Thread James
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: error messages? I caught the beginning with a cntl Z [1] 'sunrise' /var/lib/layman/sunrise (cache: parse|ebuild*#metadata-md5#metadata-assign#assign) Reading category 163|163 (100%) Finished [2] 'ultrabug'

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

2014-12-16 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:19 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: The Optimus support on Linux is similar to how it's done on ms windows. (I dual boot for a flight sim) Performance wise, it depends on the GPU. The lowspec one I have is an Intel embedded one. The higher spec is an

[gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat

2014-12-16 Thread Randy Westlund
Hey guys, When I'm compiling something large and close the lid of my laptop (lid close events disabled) or leave it on the couch where it can't get proper airflow, it tends to overheat and crash. If I leave it open and on a table, everything is fine. I have a quad-core processor and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo repositories (Zugaina)

2014-12-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/12/2014 22:02, James wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: But, eix-update failed extensively on the zugaina overlay. error messages? The entire zugaina repo fails on 'eix-update' all of the other repos are fine, even my local repo with 'eix-update' too

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

2014-12-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 12:29:24 AM behrouz khosravi wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:19 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: The Optimus support on Linux is similar to how it's done on ms windows. (I dual boot for a flight sim) Performance wise, it depends on the GPU.

[gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

2014-12-16 Thread Harry Putnam
James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com writes: Harry Putnam reader at newsguy.com writes: James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: lxde is deprecated, imho. [1] lxqt is the future of that lineage [2] Sounds like propaganda rather rather than any sort of answer to the question. OK, if that

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: unix philosophy question for old farts: the original purpose for /tmp ?

2014-12-16 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 2:46 PM On 16/12/2014 20:05, walt wrote: On 12/15/2014 11:17 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: /tmp is still very much in use and very much needed, it isn't going anywhere soon. The FHS has something interesting

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

2014-12-16 Thread Heiko Baums
Am 16.12.2014 um 12:55 schrieb behrouz khosravi: I have not tried the bumblebee. You need bumblebee. Otherwise it's not possible to use the Nvidia Optimus chip. I just waned to use optimus without that, but it seem the it is not easy! It's not possible, because the Nvidia Optimus chip isn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: unix philosophy question for old farts: the original purpose for /tmp ?

2014-12-16 Thread wraeth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 17/12/14 08:32, Mike Edenfield wrote: A general use scratch pad area where files written are not expected to survive successive invocations of the program that wrote them. That's interesting as it means the sysadmin can delete everything in

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

2014-12-16 Thread Sid S
I got bumblebee to work on hardened w/ SELinux. It is definitely ready for use. Anyway, as has been explained, you basically HAVE to use optimus - if you would like to return your laptop and/or sue the laptop manufacturer for false advertising, now would be the time to do it. On Tue, Dec 16, 2014

Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat

2014-12-16 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 16 Dec 2014 21:16:38 Randy Westlund wrote: Hey guys, When I'm compiling something large and close the lid of my laptop (lid close events disabled) or leave it on the couch where it can't get proper airflow, it tends to overheat and crash. If I leave it open and on a table,

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

2014-12-16 Thread Erik Mackdanz
Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de writes: I don't know if, but I don't think that, it will work with x11-drivers/xf86-video-nouveau. I used bumblebee for quite a while. It worked okay, but every upgrade I would have to fiddle with it again. I switched to the Nouveau driver and I'm very glad

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

2014-12-16 Thread Sid S
Using nouveau doesn't imply the card will always be on. Assuming the firmware on the device turns it off and on, vga-switcheroo or bbswitch will send the proper ACPI commands to turn it off and on. When it is on the chosen driver will be used. On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Erik Mackdanz

Re: [gentoo-user] CI Continuous Integration

2014-12-16 Thread Sam Bishop
Very interesting. A great example of how something can be both Gentoo and Not Gentoo. This is 100% Gentoo unlike Funtoo or Sabayon, but it brings in some of their advantages. Gentoo doesn't prevent us from having multiple package variants and this leads to cool stuff like being able to have a set

Re: [gentoo-user] bruning pictures (jpeg) to DVD

2014-12-16 Thread Joseph
On 12/16/14 09:10, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 16/12/2014 06:48, Joseph wrote: I have bunch of picture in different directories. What is the best way to burn them to DVD-R so I can play them in DVD? I've tried to download Nero but I'm getting an error: -2014-12-15 21:34:30--

Re: [gentoo-user] bruning pictures (jpeg) to DVD

2014-12-16 Thread Joseph
On 12/16/14 06:07, waben...@gmail.com wrote: Am Montag, 15.12.2014 um 21:48 schrieb Joseph syscon...@gmail.com: I have bunch of picture in different directories. What is the best way to burn them to DVD-R so I can play them in DVD? I've tried to If you wanna play them as a slideshow on a

[gentoo-user] question/feature request: First fetch, then compile...

2014-12-16 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, On my embedded systems (beaglebone black, 2 x Arietta G25) I installed Gentoo (of course!:). Since these systems and especially the Ariettas are not as fast as a PC the greater update, which additionally includes C++ sources to compile takes time (read: hours) to finish. Often I run this over

Re: [gentoo-user] question/feature request: First fetch, then compile...

2014-12-16 Thread Dale
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, On my embedded systems (beaglebone black, 2 x Arietta G25) I installed Gentoo (of course!:). Since these systems and especially the Ariettas are not as fast as a PC the greater update, which additionally includes C++ sources to compile takes time (read: hours)

Re: [gentoo-user] question/feature request: First fetch, then compile...

2014-12-16 Thread meino . cramer
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [14-12-17 07:20]: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, On my embedded systems (beaglebone black, 2 x Arietta G25) I installed Gentoo (of course!:). Since these systems and especially the Ariettas are not as fast as a PC the greater update, which additionally

Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat

2014-12-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 04:16:38 PM Randy Westlund wrote: Hey guys, When I'm compiling something large and close the lid of my laptop (lid close events disabled) or leave it on the couch where it can't get proper airflow, it tends to overheat and crash. If I leave it open and on a

Re: [gentoo-user] question/feature request: First fetch, then compile...

2014-12-16 Thread Randolph Maaßen
On Dec 17, 2014 7:28 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [14-12-17 07:20]: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, On my embedded systems (beaglebone black, 2 x Arietta G25) I installed Gentoo (of course!:). Since these systems and especially the Ariettas are not as

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and optimus

2014-12-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 05:46:30 PM Erik Mackdanz wrote: Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de writes: I don't know if, but I don't think that, it will work with x11-drivers/xf86-video-nouveau. I used bumblebee for quite a while. It worked okay, but every upgrade I would have to fiddle

Re: [gentoo-user] question/feature request: First fetch, then compile...

2014-12-16 Thread Dale
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [14-12-17 07:20]: You may want to set this in your make.conf file: FEATURES=parallel-fetch What that does, as soon as you start the emerge process, it starts to download the needed files. It doesn't wait until it is ready to work on

Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat

2014-12-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 17.12.2014 um 07:33 schrieb J. Roeleveld: Try cleaning the vents. Also, most couches have a tendency to compress when something like a laptop is on it. Effectively blocking all airflow. If the temperature goes to 99C when on top of a table, return the laptop to the shop as it is

Re: [gentoo-user] question/feature request: First fetch, then compile...

2014-12-16 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Dale, thanks for your reply ! :) I know of that flag, but it does not exaclty what I want. It parallelizes compilation and downloading. How can I exactly determine, that the last file has been downloaded without watching the monitor all the

Re: [gentoo-user] question/feature request: First fetch, then compile...

2014-12-16 Thread meino . cramer
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [14-12-17 07:44]: Dale wrote: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Dale, thanks for your reply ! :) I know of that flag, but it does not exaclty what I want. It parallelizes compilation and downloading. How can I exactly determine, that the last file has

Re: [gentoo-user] question/feature request: First fetch, then compile...

2014-12-16 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 12/17/2014 06:48:55 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Is it possible, to do ONE call to emerge, which asks (according to option -a, if set ) and given a yes first fetches ALL necessary files and data and compiles then everything? With some manual operations: Capture the output of

[gentoo-user] convert VOB to ISO

2014-12-16 Thread Joseph
How to convert VOB to ISO? I want to burn it to DVD I'm using XFCE and was looking for a GUI application but I can not find one, I've tired DeVeDe but it didn't work. -- Joseph