[gentoo-user] Re: meld 3.12 can't save settings

2015-01-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-01-07, Grant Edwards wrote: > Meld 3.12.2 went stable a couple weeks ago and got upgraded from > 1.8.5. After the 1.8->3.12 upgrade, the application preferences no > longer worked. They neither affect the application nor do they get > saved. > > If I block meld 3.x and go back to 1.8.5, e

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 08.01.2015 um 00:02 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > In my opinion, ansible almost always beats puppet. > > Puppet is a) complex b) built to be able to deal with vast enterprise > setups and c) has a definition language I never could wrap my brains > around. It always felt to me like puppet was never

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/01/2015 22:30, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 07.01.2015 um 20:06 schrieb Tomas Mozes: > >> Strange, I only have successful stories with upgrading old gentoo >> machines. If you have a machine which you update regularly then you know >> all the issues during the time and so upgrading "per

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/01/2015 21:06, Tomas Mozes wrote: > On 2015-01-07 13:47, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 07/01/2015 13:52, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >>> >>> I am in the process of upgrading an old (~2010) gentoo server. >>> The customer never wanted updates ... and now he wants ... *sigh* >> >> >> >> Don't wast

[gentoo-user] meld 3.12 can't save settings

2015-01-07 Thread Grant Edwards
Meld 3.12.2 went stable a couple weeks ago and got upgraded from 1.8.5. After the 1.8->3.12 upgrade, the application preferences no longer worked. They neither affect the application nor do they get saved. If I block meld 3.x and go back to 1.8.5, everything works fine again. On the meld mailing

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 07 Jan 2015 21:36:42 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 07.01.2015 um 21:17 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > > > That's not what I meant, but I see your point about using --reflink > > if making copies. My thought was to forget the whole tmpfs and > > copying think, set KEEP WORK in FEATURES

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 15:22:46 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > > That's not what I meant, but I see your point about using --reflink if > > making copies. My thought was to forget the whole tmpfs and copying > > think, set KEEP WORK in FEATURES and use XFS for PORTAGE_TMPDIR. That > > way most of the wo

[gentoo-user] USB mouse query

2015-01-07 Thread Philip Webb
Checking out my stand-by machine for another reason, I discovered that it won't talk properly to my monitor, so I tested my 2003 machine, which I haven't used for a long time. It woke up ok, but it doesn't recognise either of my mice, even with a adapter, so I want to get it to use them via USB. Th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 07.01.2015 um 21:17 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > That's not what I meant, but I see your point about using --reflink > if making copies. My thought was to forget the whole tmpfs and > copying think, set KEEP WORK in FEATURES and use XFS for > PORTAGE_T

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 07.01.2015 um 17:08 schrieb Rich Freeman: > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> It's worth repeating: the customer caused this, he must now feel the >> pain and not you. >> > > So, if he made an informed choice and that is what he chose, then that > is how it has to be.

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 07.01.2015 um 20:06 schrieb Tomas Mozes: > Strange, I only have successful stories with upgrading old gentoo > machines. If you have a machine which you update regularly then you know > all the issues during the time and so upgrading "per partes" leads to no > surprises but the same challenges

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 14:25:52 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> > Not as a general FS, but as a specific choice for $PORTAGE_TMPDIR it >> > may be worth testing. XFS was designed for an environment that used >> > temporary files that didn't need t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 14:25:52 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Not as a general FS, but as a specific choice for $PORTAGE_TMPDIR it > > may be worth testing. XFS was designed for an environment that used > > temporary files that didn't need to be committed to disk, so its > > caching doesn't write to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:12:28 + (UTC), James wrote: > >> > That's why I thought XFS may help. >> > Reports of the speed gain from tmpfs are quite mixed, but I do use it >> > myself. >> >> I'm moving to btrfs and eventually ceph, so xfs is n

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Tomas Mozes
On 2015-01-07 13:47, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 07/01/2015 13:52, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I am in the process of upgrading an old (~2010) gentoo server. The customer never wanted updates ... and now he wants ... *sigh* Don't waste your time (you are already experiencing the full reason wh

Re: [gentoo-user] tip ou pulseaudio

2015-01-07 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Jacques Montier wrote: > > Hello, > > I had the same problem some months ago. > Adding the line > set-sink-port alsa_output.pci-_00_1b.0.analog-stereo analog-output-lineout > to /etc/pulse/default.pa solved the problem. Please don't top-post. That card (pci-00

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 07.01.2015 um 17:38 schrieb James: > Stefan G. Weichinger xunil.at> writes: > > >> I am in the process of upgrading an old (~2010) gentoo server. >> The customer never wanted updates ... and now he wants ... *sigh* >> Thanks for any pointers! >> best, Stefan > > > If the server is 5 years o

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:12:28 + (UTC), James wrote: > > That's why I thought XFS may help. > > Reports of the speed gain from tmpfs are quite mixed, but I do use it > > myself. > > I'm moving to btrfs and eventually ceph, so xfs is not on my roadmap Not as a general FS, but as a specif

[gentoo-user] Re: another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread James
Stefan G. Weichinger xunil.at> writes: > I am in the process of upgrading an old (~2010) gentoo server. > The customer never wanted updates ... and now he wants ... *sigh* > Thanks for any pointers! > best, Stefan If the server is 5 years old (or more) surely there is an additional system avai

[gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread James
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > > > On 7 January 2015 13:16:03 GMT+00:00, Rich Freeman gentoo.org> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> wrote: > Personally, I wouldn't bother, there is not that much of a gain when using tmpfs, so if you want to keep al

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > It's worth repeating: the customer caused this, he must now feel the > pain and not you. > So, if he made an informed choice and that is what he chose, then that is how it has to be. However, if I were in the position of supporting this in

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 07 Jan 2015 14:19:27 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > at the reboot time a fellow IT-guy will be there in front of the console > so if the NIC doesn't come up correctly I will be able to instruct him > to get the box up and reachable for me. > > I also use to disable persistent names

Re: [gentoo-user] block in emerge

2015-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/01/2015 16:12, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: > I have a block, I'm not looking for a solution yet, just a correct > interpretation of the error messages: > > [blocks B ] (" app-admin/eselect-opengl-1.3.1-r1) > > * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be > * install

[gentoo-user] block in emerge

2015-01-07 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
I have a block, I'm not looking for a solution yet, just a correct interpretation of the error messages: [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 required by (x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa-2.3.3:0/0::gentoo, installed) (snip) (app-admin/eselect-opengl-1.3.1-r1:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled f

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 07.01.2015 um 14:44 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > On 07/01/2015 15:19, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> Seems as if the biggest problems are solved right now? > > > if you ran "emerge -avuND world" and portage goes ahead and does it > without blockers, then I'd agree - the major problems are solved.

Re: [gentoo-user] /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On 7 January 2015 13:16:03 GMT+00:00, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Neil Bothwick > wrote: > > > > Personally, I wouldn't bother, there is not that much of a gain when > > using tmpfs, so if you want to keep all the working files after > > compilation, the extra overhead a

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/01/2015 15:19, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 07.01.2015 um 14:06 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > >> The tricky one is going to be that persistent interface names from udev >> 18 months or so back. When you get to that, you'll probably want to >> re-read the huge threads from that time, as you on

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 07.01.2015 um 14:28 schrieb Rich Freeman: > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> openrc should be seamless. I forget the exact timelines, but IIRC you >> will also hit baselayout-2 migration. That one was very smooth and well >> documented so you shouldn't have much troubl

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > openrc should be seamless. I forget the exact timelines, but IIRC you > will also hit baselayout-2 migration. That one was very smooth and well > documented so you shouldn't have much trouble. > If it is already running openrc then he is pa

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 07.01.2015 um 14:06 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > The tricky one is going to be that persistent interface names from udev > 18 months or so back. When you get to that, you'll probably want to > re-read the huge threads from that time, as you only get one chance to > get it right. One addition: at

Re: [gentoo-user] /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Personally, I wouldn't bother, there is not that much of a gain when > using tmpfs, so if you want to keep all the working files after > compilation, the extra overhead and complexity of copying to hard disk > would make it not worthwhile. J

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/01/2015 14:56, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 07.01.2015 um 13:47 schrieb Alan McKinnon: >> On 07/01/2015 13:52, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >>> >>> I am in the process of upgrading an old (~2010) gentoo server. >>> The customer never wanted updates ... and now he wants ... *sigh* >> >> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Matti Nykyri
> On Jan 7, 2015, at 14:47, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On 07/01/2015 13:52, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> >> I am in the process of upgrading an old (~2010) gentoo server. >> The customer never wanted updates ... and now he wants ... *sigh* > > > > Don't waste your time (you are already exper

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 07.01.2015 um 13:47 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > On 07/01/2015 13:52, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> >> I am in the process of upgrading an old (~2010) gentoo server. >> The customer never wanted updates ... and now he wants ... *sigh* > > > > Don't waste your time (you are already experiencing t

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 07.01.2015 um 13:13 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Wed, 07 Jan 2015 13:01:34 +0100, Tomas Mozes wrote: > >> Try to fetch some older portage snapshots >> http://dev.gentoo.org/~swift/snapshots/ and update in steps, not >> as a 4 year giant leap. Try t

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/01/2015 13:52, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > I am in the process of upgrading an old (~2010) gentoo server. > The customer never wanted updates ... and now he wants ... *sigh* Don't waste your time (you are already experiencing the full reason why). Backup data and configs, reinstall G

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 07 Jan 2015 13:01:34 +0100, Tomas Mozes wrote: > Try to fetch some older portage snapshots > http://dev.gentoo.org/~swift/snapshots/ and update in steps, not as a 4 > year giant leap. Try to fetch snapshot 2011, then upgrade, then 2012, > upgrade... It takes more time, but it should wor

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Tomas Mozes
On 2015-01-07 12:52, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I am in the process of upgrading an old (~2010) gentoo server. The customer never wanted updates ... and now he wants ... *sigh* I managed to compile basic stuff already ... portage, gcc etc Now I get errors at emerging packages which is bad. St

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 07.01.2015 um 12:52 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Thanks for any pointers! I *think* I solved it by fixing the binutils-setting ... just testing ... seems solved for now! Stefan

[gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
I am in the process of upgrading an old (~2010) gentoo server. The customer never wanted updates ... and now he wants ... *sigh* I managed to compile basic stuff already ... portage, gcc etc Now I get errors at emerging packages which is bad. Still no openrc installed and the udev-upgrade also

Re: [gentoo-user] tip ou pulseaudio

2015-01-07 Thread Francisco Ares
2015-01-07 8:51 GMT-02:00 Jacques Montier : > Hello, > > I had the same problem some months ago. > Adding the line > set-sink-port alsa_output.pci-_00_1b.0.analog-stereo > analog-output-lineout > to /etc/pulse/default.pa solved the problem. > > Hope that will help, > > > > *--* > *Jacques* > >

Re: [gentoo-user] tip ou pulseaudio

2015-01-07 Thread Jacques Montier
Hello, I had the same problem some months ago. Adding the line set-sink-port alsa_output.pci-_00_1b.0.analog-stereo analog-output-lineout to /etc/pulse/default.pa solved the problem. Hope that will help, *--* *Jacques* 2015-01-07 11:41 GMT+01:00 Francisco Ares : > Hi All, > > I have been

[gentoo-user] tip ou pulseaudio

2015-01-07 Thread Francisco Ares
Hi All, I have been strugling with pulseaudio for a while now. The problem is that it selects as the only default output interface an HDMI ("digital") port in the video card. How do I set it up to select the usual analog output as default (or even better, select both)? Thanks, Francisco

Re: [gentoo-user] Installing a thingy that does not have an ebuild

2015-01-07 Thread thegeezer
On 07/01/15 06:01, Andrew Lowe wrote: > Hi all, > I'm trying to install an engineering package by the name of > Salome-meca. There is no ebuild for this. They claim to have a > "universal installer" but I've spent too much time trying to get this > thingy to work and can now confidently say i

Re: [gentoo-user] /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 07 Jan 2015 10:00:17 +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote: > # > # RAM disk for emerges > # > tmpfs /var/tmp/portage tmpfs > uid=portage,gid=portage,mode=0775,size=8192M,noatime0 0 > > > The above is all ONE line. This has worked fine for me. I have a machine > with 16GB so I decided to go half

Re: [gentoo-user] Radeon driver - blank console [SOLVED]

2015-01-07 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 01/07/2015 08:07:26 AM, Mick wrote: > On Tuesday 06 Jan 2015 10:09:25 Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > On 01/05/2015 02:49:04 PM, Florian Gamböck wrote: > > > Am 05.01.2015 um 14:42 schrieb Helmut Jarausch: > > > > Which (framebuffer?) kernel parameters have to set? > > > > > > Try compiling CONFIG_D