Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-31 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 1:57:32 AM Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Sunday, March 29, 2015 12:23:00 PM lee wrote: Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net writes: What's the last time you pressed Ctrl+Alt+Del and it actually worked? It's a legacy thing from times when freezes/crashes were common and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: online browsable ebuilds by arch?

2015-03-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 05:21:13 + (UTC), James wrote: It's not quite what you are asking for, but packages.g.o lets you filter by arch, and view the contents of ebuilds. Yea, I have seen that often when I google. Correct but is not comprehensive but chronologically organized. I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Easy (cough) way to build earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel?

2015-03-31 Thread Bob Wya
@Holger, that's my symptoms to tee... :-) Strangely it doesn't effect Arch Linux - running on the same box - with a newer 3.19.2 kernel. So they must have a patch for the issue (but I can't figure out what). Perhaps I'll check through the (stock) kernel configuration as well - to check it matches

Re: [gentoo-user] Easy (cough) way to build earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel?

2015-03-31 Thread Bob Wya
Neil, Simply changing the ebuild version to 3.18.1 doesn't work. The kernel-2 eclass simply won't allow one to build a gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel lower than / before 3.18.9 now. (Try it if you don't believe me...) That was the first thing I tried. :-) On 31 March 2015 at 00:05, Neil Bothwick

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Easy (cough) way to build earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel?

2015-03-31 Thread Bob Wya
@Nicolas This is the first place I went to. But I don't understand what all the different tar balls of gentoo kernel patch-sets actually mean. It would nice if the site had a little a bit of Wiki love to make it clearer. For example I can't figure out what steps are needed to apply the patchsets,

[gentoo-user] Re: Easy (cough) way to build earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel?

2015-03-31 Thread Holger Hoffstätte
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 09:47:24 +0100, Bob Wya wrote: @Holger, that's my symptoms to tee... :-) Strangely it doesn't effect Arch Linux - running on the same box - with a newer 3.19.2 kernel. So they must have a patch for the issue (but I can't figure out what). Perhaps I'll check through the

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:46:39 -0500, Dale wrote: Yea. We just batting ideas around. For me tho, it just turned into a nightmare. If I needed to change something, which file is it in? At one time I had a dozen or so files and digging through each one of them wastes time. If I have just one

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from no-multilib to (true) multilib

2015-03-31 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:20:23AM +0100, Mick wrote: Given that the emul-linux-x86 package sets are now deprecated and we can now with USE=abi_x86_32 emerge our own 32bit libraries where needed, is it now easier to move from a no-multilib to a multilib environment, or will it still require

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from no-multilib to (true) multilib

2015-03-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 31/03/2015 12:48, Bruce Hill wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:20:23AM +0100, Mick wrote: Given that the emul-linux-x86 package sets are now deprecated and we can now with USE=abi_x86_32 emerge our own 32bit libraries where needed, is it now easier to move from a no-multilib to a multilib

Re: [gentoo-user] Easy (cough) way to build earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel?

2015-03-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 09:51:11 +0100, Bob Wya wrote: lease don't top-post, it is frowned upon on this list, and for good reason. Simply changing the ebuild version to 3.18.1 doesn't work. The kernel-2 eclass simply won't allow one to build a gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel lower than / before

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-31 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:57 AM, Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote: On Linux now there's the Magic SysRq Key feature for that. If enabled (I think it is by default, may be wrong) you can use ctrl-alt-sysrq plus one these keys even if your kernel panics or freezes in

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 31/03/2015 02:46, Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 08:42:07 -0500, Dale wrote: I find the separate files much easier to manage as all the settings for each package are kept separate, and easily removed or changed - for example when I stop using the package. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Easy (cough) way to build earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel?

2015-03-31 Thread Bob Wya
@Nicolas, I think I'm getting it now. The patchsets are cumulative and I just need the base patchset - right? I'm still a little unclear as to what kernel source I should apply the base patchset to. I want to rebuild the 3.18.8 kernel to double check it's free of the bug... I can see some nfs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-31 Thread Emanuele Rusconi
Easy to remember as Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken I remember it as the reverse of busier. A variant I read somewhere is Raising (Skinny) Elephants Is So Utterly Boring. Skinny is an extra optional sync, it doesn't hurt and makes the mnemonic funnier.

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc-systemd command comparison

2015-03-31 Thread Daniel Frey
On 03/17/2015 10:20 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: The cheat sheets are useful for reference, but I'd strongly encourage anybody using systemd to get a decent understanding of the fundamentals. Oh, certainly - but going in completely blind and being stuck for 15 minutes trying to do a simple task

Re: [gentoo-user] OK, so not everything works properly with systemd

2015-03-31 Thread Daniel Frey
On 03/21/2015 02:46 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Could you run this immediately after booting: systemd-delta Just to check that the unit files you are using are not being overridden by something. OK, I've confirmed the poweroff target works fine but the reboot and shutdown targets

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-03-31 Thread Gevisz
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 02:46:39 +0300 Andrew Savchenko birc...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 01:37:06 +0200 waben...@gmail.com wrote: This really made my day. :-) https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html The best design ever! So nice and readable font, so yummy

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc-systemd command comparison

2015-03-31 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mar 31, 2015 7:55 PM, Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/17/2015 10:20 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: The cheat sheets are useful for reference, but I'd strongly encourage anybody using systemd to get a decent understanding of the fundamentals. Oh, certainly - but going in completely

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc-systemd command comparison

2015-03-31 Thread Daniel Frey
On 03/31/2015 07:05 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Thanks for doing this, I think it will help all the people switching to systemd from OpenRC in Gentoo. However, I think the zap command is a little misleading, even with the note stating that is no exactly the same. Duly noted, I've removed

Re: [gentoo-user] OK, so not everything works properly with systemd

2015-03-31 Thread Daniel Frey
On 03/21/2015 02:46 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: They are; basically everything nowadays is systemd aware. Even OpenRC can now use some of its configurations. Could you run this immediately after booting: systemd-delta I've finally gotten around to doing this:

Re: [gentoo-user] xen on new install reboots by itself

2015-03-31 Thread symack
Hello Hydra, Thank you for your response: The commands are bellow. Also, the Bios is almost 10 years old on the machine. Not sure if that info helps for the ACPI related messages. USE=app-emulation/xen-tools-4.3.1-r1 api hvm qenu screen -custom-cflags -debug -doc -flask -xend

Re: [gentoo-user] Easy (cough) way to build earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel?

2015-03-31 Thread Bob Wya
Neil, (a) Should I download the vanilla 3.18.1 kernel sources and apply all the gentoo-sources tar-ball patches in numerical order?? (b) I tried downloading the vanilla 3.18.8 kernel. But of course the earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.1 - 3.18.6 patches don't apply cleanly... Will I get to the same

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-03-31 Thread John Campbell
On 03/31/2015 09:39 PM, Gevisz wrote: On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 02:46:39 +0300 Andrew Savchenko birc...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 01:37:06 +0200 waben...@gmail.com wrote: This really made my day. :-) https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html The best design ever! So

Re: [gentoo-user] Easy (cough) way to build earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel?

2015-03-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 31 March 2015 16:45:08 Bob Wya wrote: Neil, (a) Should I download the vanilla 3.18.1 kernel sources and apply all the gentoo-sources tar-ball patches in numerical order?? (b) I tried downloading the vanilla 3.18.8 kernel. But of course the earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.1 - 3.18.6

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-31 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Emanuele Rusconi ema...@gmail.com wrote: Easy to remember as Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken I remember it as the reverse of busier. A variant I read somewhere is Raising (Skinny) Elephants Is So Utterly Boring. Skinny is an extra optional sync, it

[gentoo-user] gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-03-31 Thread wabenbau
This really made my day. :-) https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html -- Regards wabe

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-03-31 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 01:37:06 +0200 waben...@gmail.com wrote: This really made my day. :-) https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html The best design ever! So nice and readable font, so yummy background, very fast page load. Many thanks for Web project team for hard work! As

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-03-31 Thread Heiko Baums
Am 01.04.2015 um 01:37 schrieb waben...@gmail.com: This really made my day. :-) https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html I hope you followed the links there to the new team websites. :-) Really cool the new website. Finally a modern website that's technologically

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-03-31 Thread wabenbau
Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Am 01.04.2015 um 01:37 schrieb waben...@gmail.com: This really made my day. :-) https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html I hope you followed the links there to the new team websites. :-) Of course I did. It's a long time ago

Re: [gentoo-user] mysql upgrade 5.5 5.6 mysql_upgrade needed?

2015-03-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 22:27:38 +0200, Marko Weber | 8000 wrote: Do i need to run mysql_upgrade after upgrading mysql 5.5 5.6 ? I ask because the post install text recommend this after an major upgrade. Do you *need* to? Possibly not. Should you do it? Yes. If you run it unnecessarily, it

[gentoo-user] Re: Easy (cough) way to build earlier gentoo-sources 3.18.x kernel?

2015-03-31 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:17:27AM +0100, Bob Wya wrote: @Nicolas, I think I'm getting it now. The patchsets are cumulative and I just need the base patchset - right? base, extras and experimental are all applied. I'm still a little unclear as to

[gentoo-user] mysql upgrade 5.5 5.6 mysql_upgrade needed?

2015-03-31 Thread Marko Weber | 8000
hello list, again i have to ask. Do i need to run mysql_upgrade after upgrading mysql 5.5 5.6 ? I ask because the post install text recommend this after an major upgrade. On the Mysql Website is a major upgrade 5.5 6.0, not 5.5 5.6 So i ask you guys. Any can help me? thank you marko

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: online browsable ebuilds by arch?

2015-03-31 Thread Bob Wya
On 31 March 2015 at 08:31, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 05:21:13 + (UTC), James wrote: It's not quite what you are asking for, but packages.g.o lets you filter by arch, and view the contents of ebuilds. Yea, I have seen that often when I google.

[gentoo-user] Re: Moving from no-multilib to (true) multilib

2015-03-31 Thread NP-Hardass
Holger Hoffstätte holger.hoffstae...@googlemail.com Wrote in message: On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 11:20:23 +0100, Mick wrote: Given that the emul-linux-x86 package sets are now deprecated and we can now with USE=abi_x86_32 emerge our own 32bit libraries where needed, is it now easier to move from