Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/08/2015 15:35, Harry Putnam wrote: Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de writes: I'd recommend you then just to reinstall. Remembering my fights with stupid error messages from emerge, and so on, I wish I'd just reinstalled months earlier than I did. Thanks for the frank suggestions and noted

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

2015-08-24 Thread Francisco Ares
Thanks, Dale, for your point of view. But since I'm not the only user (my wife is forced to use it, too ;-) )and I am the only one that knows how to use a command line session, for instance, I still want to try to make this semantic desktop thing to work. Thanks, again, and Best Regards

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Can anyone advise me which iso to use? And which profile to set for general use in a vbox, hopefully to allow a `no sweat' emerge to a full OS. As others have pointed out you probably just need to update your gcc and all

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing digest for *** Tree looks messed up.

2015-08-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 24 August 2015 08:12:28 Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 08/24/2015 08:08 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: Is syncing not yet sorted out? A fortnight later I'm still getting something like 24000 manifests synced every day, and about a week ago I got all the change-logs too. That was

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

2015-08-24 Thread Francisco Ares
2015-08-24 9:14 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: Thanks, Dale, for your point of view. But since I'm not the only user (my wife is forced to use it, too ;-) )and I am the only one that knows how to use a command line session, for instance, I still want to try to make this semantic

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread wraeth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 24/08/15 23:59, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 09:35:36AM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de writes: I'd recommend you then

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing digest for *** Tree looks messed up.

2015-08-24 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/24/2015 08:08 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: Is syncing not yet sorted out? A fortnight later I'm still getting something like 24000 manifests synced every day, and about a week ago I got all the change-logs too. That was expected... one more time. Hopefully it shouldn't happen again.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 09:35:36AM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de writes: I'd recommend you then just to reinstall. Remembering my fights with stupid error messages from emerge, and so on, I wish I'd just reinstalled months earlier than I did. Thanks for the

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing digest for *** Tree looks messed up.

2015-08-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 10 August 2015 11:16:08 Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: On Monday 10 August 2015 09:13:01 Dale wrote: I might add, sync is taking a LONG time again. Of course, my DSL is a bit slower than some folks. At least the

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread James
Harry Putnam reader at newsguy.com writes: My gentoo OS is running on Openindiana (solaris) inside oracle's vbox. Hello Harry. Gentoo has the handbook for it's main install. A bit of a drag but good for for a refresher or leaning. Rich put up an excellent set of VM gentoo install instructins

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 09:35:36AM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de writes: I'd recommend you then just to reinstall. Remembering my fights with stupid error messages from emerge, and so

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Harry, Long time, no see! On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 10:19:42PM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: My gentoo OS is running on Openindiana (solaris) inside oracle's vbox. It's been left setting for at least 4-5 months maybe a couple more. After eix-sync, attempting an `emerge vuND world' comes

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 08:41:48AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: And a note to everybody else on the list: take it easy on the poor guy. People used to other distros are used to doing things like blowing away their installs every other year with a fresh install. Release-based distros get people

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de writes: I'd recommend you then just to reinstall. Remembering my fights with stupid error messages from emerge, and so on, I wish I'd just reinstalled months earlier than I did. Thanks for the frank suggestions and noted lack unix hero talk... hehe.

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/08/2015 15:17, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hello, Harry, Long time, no see! On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 10:19:42PM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: My gentoo OS is running on Openindiana (solaris) inside oracle's vbox. It's been left setting for at least 4-5 months maybe a couple more. After

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: Working thru all the guff with all you posters patient help would probably have been the best but between posting and seeing answers (suring the morning in the wee hours). I jumped stupid and starting uninstalling some of the blockers. So, I've made

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

2015-08-24 Thread Francisco Ares
2015-08-24 10:13 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: 2015-08-24 9:14 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: Thanks, Dale, for your point of view. But since I'm not the only user (my wife is forced to use it, too ;-) )and I am the only one that knows how to use a command line

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing digest for *** Tree looks messed up.

2015-08-24 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/24/2015 09:47 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 24 August 2015 08:12:28 Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 08/24/2015 08:08 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: Is syncing not yet sorted out? A fortnight later I'm still getting something like 24000 manifests synced every day, and about a week ago I got

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 9:46 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello Harry. Gentoo has the handbook for it's main install. A bit of a drag but good for for a refresher or leaning. Rich put up an excellent set of VM gentoo install instructins [1]: My main goals with those notes (I

Re: [gentoo-user] Snort compiling problems

2015-08-24 Thread Jeremi Piotrowski
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Rod r...@rods.id.au wrote: USE=-* ... I have not been following this thread but why do you have this setting? # grep snort /etc/portage/package.use net-analyser/snort active-response flexresp3 gre mpls That's a typo in the category

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/08/2015 16:46, Harry Putnam wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: Working thru all the guff with all you posters patient help would probably have been the best but between posting and seeing answers (suring the morning in the wee hours). I jumped stupid and starting

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread James
Rich Freeman rich0 at gentoo.org writes: In any case, the notes as they currently stand are not something I'd recommend to a new user. They're fine for experienced users looking for the short version. When I get them integrated into the handbook I think it will be an overall improvement and

[gentoo-user] Re: Filthy oscilloscope picture! =P

2015-08-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-08-23, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: That's quite normal - electrolytic caps are the only electronic components that can be considered to wear out. Apart from batteries of course :-) And various forms of non-volatile memory (EEPROM, NAND flash, etc.) that can withstand

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Jeremi Piotrowski
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Alan McKinnon wrote: Or you can get a binary package from anywhere else you trust. My personal favourite: chroot into a stage3 and quickpkg gcc. Then copy to your install and voila.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: So, I've made the mess considerably worse... maybe unsolvable since I have no gcc now and so no way to grind out the builds plus other truly boneheaded uninstalls that appear to have rendered my system unusable

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:36 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Are you going to roll out some notes on putting raid-1::btrfs onto HD? Or just the VM install? The notes should work just fine for installing that on an HD. Is there something you found missing in them? The only thing

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone using xfce4 with compositing turned off? [FIXED]

2015-08-24 Thread walt
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 20:08:55 -0400 Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote: On Sunday, August 23, 2015 2:25:47 PM walt wrote: On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 05:53:37 +0200 bitlord bitlord0...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 2015-08-22 at 19:08 -0700, walt wrote: I forgot

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

2015-08-24 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Monday, August 24, 2015 11:31:04 AM Francisco Ares wrote: 2015-08-24 10:13 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: 2015-08-24 9:14 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: Thanks, Dale, for your point of view. But since I'm not the only user (my wife is forced to use it,

Re: [gentoo-user] Snort compiling problems

2015-08-24 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Monday, August 24, 2015 5:33:34 PM Jeremi Piotrowski wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Rod r...@rods.id.au wrote: USE=-* ... I have not been following this thread but why do you have this setting? There may be some valid reasons for it, but if you don't know the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/08/2015 18:49, Jeremi Piotrowski wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Alan McKinnon wrote: Or you can get a binary package from anywhere else you trust. My personal favourite: chroot into a stage3 and quickpkg gcc. Then copy to your install and voila. I knew there was a way to do it,

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 10:19:42PM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: My gentoo OS is running on Openindiana (solaris) inside oracle's vbox. It's been left setting for at least 4-5 months maybe a couple more. After eix-sync, attempting an `emerge vuND world' comes up with so many blocks, use flag

Re: [gentoo-user] Snort compiling problems

2015-08-24 Thread Rod
On 08/24/2015 04:47 AM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Sunday, August 23, 2015 5:17:53 PM Rod wrote: On 08/23/2015 05:02 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Sunday, August 23, 2015 4:35:12 PM Rod wrote: On 08/23/2015 03:59 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:26:24 PM Rod

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

2015-08-24 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: Fernando Rodriguez wrote: Interesting that it didn't pull baloo so you must have it installed? For some reason the quoting didn't quite work right. Hm. It appears I do. Now you going to make me have to go find out what pulled that in, then what pulled in what pulled it

Re: [gentoo-user] Endless preserved-rebuild loop, libmozalloc more

2015-08-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/08/2015 22:04, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Monday, August 24, 2015 9:31:38 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: Does anyone have an opinion to offer on bug 501468? https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501468 It's been annoying me for a week now with this message: !!! existing preserved libs:

Re: [gentoo-user] Missing digest for *** Tree looks messed up.

2015-08-24 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Sunday, August 16, 2015 9:58:43 AM Dale wrote: Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 10 August 2015 09:13:01 Dale wrote: I might add, sync is taking a LONG time again. Of course, my DSL is a bit

Re: [gentoo-user] Endless preserved-rebuild loop, libmozalloc more

2015-08-24 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Monday, August 24, 2015 9:31:38 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: Does anyone have an opinion to offer on bug 501468? https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501468 It's been annoying me for a week now with this message: !!! existing preserved libs: package: www-client/firefox-40.0.2 * -

[gentoo-user] Kmail2 chews up draft message

2015-08-24 Thread Mick
Has it happened to you? A user saved a message reply as a draft and came back after lunch to continue, only to discover that half the response was missing. Given that some of it was the result of a two hour investigation I had my hands full trying to pacify them. Why was part of the draft

[gentoo-user] Endless preserved-rebuild loop, libmozalloc more

2015-08-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
Does anyone have an opinion to offer on bug 501468? https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501468 It's been annoying me for a week now with this message: !!! existing preserved libs: package: www-client/firefox-40.0.2 * - /usr/lib64/firefox/libmozalloc.so * used by

Re: [gentoo-user] Endless preserved-rebuild loop, libmozalloc more

2015-08-24 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Monday, August 24, 2015 8:58:56 PM Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Monday, August 24, 2015 10:42:28 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 24/08/2015 22:04, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Monday, August 24, 2015 9:31:38 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: Does anyone have an opinion to offer on bug 501468?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: [1] Reminds me of an old joke: Q: What's the second worst sound you can hear a sysadmin make? A: Uh-oh Q: And the worst sound? A: Oops Looks like you had an oops moment there I have quite a few of those Uh oh moments. I think top on my list tho is oh crap. :-(

Re: [gentoo-user] Endless preserved-rebuild loop, libmozalloc more

2015-08-24 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Monday, August 24, 2015 10:42:28 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 24/08/2015 22:04, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Monday, August 24, 2015 9:31:38 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: Does anyone have an opinion to offer on bug 501468? https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501468 It's been annoying

Re: [gentoo-user] Snort compiling problems

2015-08-24 Thread Rod
On 08/25/2015 05:05 AM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Monday, August 24, 2015 5:33:34 PM Jeremi Piotrowski wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Rod r...@rods.id.au wrote: USE=-* ... I have not been following this thread but why do you have this setting? There may be some valid

Re: [gentoo-user] Endless preserved-rebuild loop, libmozalloc more

2015-08-24 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Monday, August 24, 2015 10:28:36 PM Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Monday, August 24, 2015 9:31:38 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: Does anyone have an opinion to offer on bug 501468? https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501468 It's been annoying me for a week now with this message:

Re: [gentoo-user] Endless preserved-rebuild loop, libmozalloc more

2015-08-24 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Monday, August 24, 2015 9:31:38 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: Does anyone have an opinion to offer on bug 501468? https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501468 It's been annoying me for a week now with this message: !!! existing preserved libs: package: www-client/firefox-40.0.2 * -