Re: [gentoo-user] Risks of making traceroute suid root

On May 11, 2017 1:49:05 AM GMT+02:00, Adam Carter wrote: >I want to allow some fairly well trusted users the ablilty to do traces >with icmp. I can give them sudo, but how high is the risk of making >traceroute suid root? AFAIK making text editors or anything that has an

Re: [gentoo-user] Risks of making traceroute suid root

On May 11, 2017 1:49:05 AM GMT+02:00, Adam Carter wrote: >I want to allow some fairly well trusted users the ablilty to do traces >with icmp. I can give them sudo, but how high is the risk of making >traceroute suid root? AFAIK making text editors or anything that has an

Re: [gentoo-user] world rebuild with gcc-6.3.0 - not completely there yet

"Walter's Excellent Adventure Continues"... Now that I've got ICEWM built, I'm trying to start X. I copied over my ~/.icewm cirectory, the .xinitrc, and local X startup script from my current machine, where it all works. I run "startx", and the X window pops up and I can see the cursor... for

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Horrible English

On Wednesday 10 May 2017 23:33:37 Alan McKinnon wrote: > I you read -dev, you could have replied to the original with a correct > fix :-) No good. I can't read C. I gave up in the '80s and reverted to assembler. > The author isn't English mother-tongue btw [1] Maybe not, but he's only

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I turn off ansi (colour) codes in GCC 6.3.0 ?

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 01:35:24PM -0500, R0b0t1 wrote > The option is "-fdiagnostics-color=never" or "-fno-diagnostics-color". > You can also set the environment variable GCC_COLORS to the empty > string. The latter is probably more useful in the context of portage. Thank you. I successfully

Re: [gentoo-user] world rebuild with gcc-6.3.0 - not completely there yet

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 02:15:23PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote > On Mon, May 08, 2017 at 07:55:30AM +0200, Raffaele Belardi wrote > > Bringing a 2008 Core2 duo back into use. I ran into major problems > with graphite optimizations. So I re-installed without graphite. > > I copied over most of

[gentoo-user] Risks of making traceroute suid root

I want to allow some fairly well trusted users the ablilty to do traces with icmp. I can give them sudo, but how high is the risk of making traceroute suid root? AFAIK making text editors or anything that has an ability to run shell commands suid root is effectively giving them root access, but

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Horrible English

On Wednesday 10 May 2017 10:57:30 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 10 May 2017 10:09:26 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > Be advised that switching from an older version to GCC 6 will ... > > > > Those first three words are redundant; they add nothing. > > Except for those of us that are paid by

Re: [gentoo-user] gkrellm sensors vanish

On Wednesday 10 May 2017 15:54:05 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Since about 2 weekly updates ago (which seems to neatly translate to a > newly stable 2.3.10-r1 version of gkrellm) sometimes it starts without > any of the hardware monitoring sensors displayed. Not always; but since > gkrellm despite of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How do I turn off text console screen in software?

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 03:36:05PM -0400, Jonathan Callen wrote > Additionally, "setterm --blank force" turns the console off immediately. Thank you; that's exactly what I was looking for. My script ~/bin/dark now reads... #!/bin/bash sleep 1 && xset -display :0.0 dpms force off setterm

[gentoo-user] gkrellm sensors vanish

Since about 2 weekly updates ago (which seems to neatly translate to a newly stable 2.3.10-r1 version of gkrellm) sometimes it starts without any of the hardware monitoring sensors displayed. Not always; but since gkrellm despite of all its other virtues is the misguided sort of program that

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Horrible English

On 10/05/2017 11:09, Peter Humphrey wrote: > "Can not" should be "cannot" (different meaning). > > I did say this is all off-topic. Apologies to anyone who feels aggrieved. I > could have suggested several other improvements as well, so I could say I've > let you off lightly. ;-) I you read

[gentoo-user] Re: How do I turn off text console screen in software?

On 05/10/2017 12:59 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 9:03 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: >> I'd prefer to avoid hitting the monitor display on/off too often. In >> an xterm, the script... >> >> #!/bin/bash >> sleep 1 && xset -display :0.0 dpms force off >> >> ...shuts

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I turn off ansi (colour) codes in GCC 6.3.0 ?

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > Splitting away from the main GCC 6.3.0 thread, because this is a > tangential issue. The GCC 6.3.0 build output is cutsie/wootsie with > lots of colour... "because teh shiney". Unfortunately, it absolutely > sucks

[gentoo-user] How do I turn off ansi (colour) codes in GCC 6.3.0 ?

Splitting away from the main GCC 6.3.0 thread, because this is a tangential issue. The GCC 6.3.0 build output is cutsie/wootsie with lots of colour... "because teh shiney". Unfortunately, it absolutely sucks for reading build logs giving stuff like... ^[[01m^[[Kicesh.cc:249:1:^[[m^[[K

Re: [gentoo-user] world rebuild with gcc-6.3.0 - not completely there yet

On Mon, May 08, 2017 at 07:55:30AM +0200, Raffaele Belardi wrote Bringing a 2008 Core2 duo back into use. I ran into major problems with graphite optimizations. So I re-installed without graphite. I copied over most of the world file from my current desktop (GCC 5.4.0) and tried it on the

[gentoo-user] Back to bussiness with freecad ... but ...

Hi, ok it seems that previously reported problems with compilation problems of the dependencies of freecad had gone. Reason was a mixed up configuration of gcc. I returned to gcc 5* and that did it. Now emerging reaches the final step and starts compiling freecad, and . failed. I added

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I turn off text console screen in software?

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 9:03 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > I'd prefer to avoid hitting the monitor display on/off too often. In > an xterm, the script... > > #!/bin/bash > sleep 1 && xset -display :0.0 dpms force off > > ...shuts the screen off. Is there an equivalant

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Horrible English

On Wednesday 10 May 2017 10:11:36 Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:09:26AM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote > > > On Tuesday 09 May 2017 14:29:16 Walter Dnes wrote: > > > It's a feature, not a bug. There's a news item being worked on in > > > the Gentoo dev list. I'd normally just

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Horrible English

On Wed, 10 May 2017 13:50:40 +0100, David W Noon wrote: > > Except for those of us that are paid by the word ;-) > > ... those of us *who* are paid by the word. ... :-) who/that/what/is it's all the same price ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Fill what's empty, empty what's full, scratch where it

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Horrible English

On 2017-05-10, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday 09 May 2017 14:29:16 Walter Dnes wrote: > >> It's a feature, not a bug. There's a news item being worked on in >> the Gentoo dev list. I'd normally just link to a mail archive, but it's >> too new to have been archived

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Horrible English

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:09:26AM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote > On Tuesday 09 May 2017 14:29:16 Walter Dnes wrote: > > > It's a feature, not a bug. There's a news item being worked on in > > the Gentoo dev list. I'd normally just link to a mail archive, but it's > > too new to have been

[gentoo-user] How do I turn off text console screen in software?

I'd prefer to avoid hitting the monitor display on/off too often. In an xterm, the script... #!/bin/bash sleep 1 && xset -display :0.0 dpms force off ...shuts the screen off. Is there an equivalant command for a text console (e.g. where you end up if you hit CTRL-ALT-F1)? -- Walter Dnes

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Horrible English

On Wed, 10 May 2017 13:50:40 +0100 David W Noon wrote: > those of us *who* are paid by the word. *whomst pgpDeD8naDnBF.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Horrible English

On Wed, 10 May 2017 10:57:30 +0100, Neil Bothwick (n...@digimed.co.uk) wrote about "Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Horrible English" (in <20170510105615.7340c...@digimed.co.uk>): [snip] Except for those of us that are paid by the word ;-) ... those of us *who* are paid by the word. ... :-) --

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Horrible English

On Wed, 10 May 2017 10:09:26 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Be advised that switching from an older version to GCC 6 will ... > > Those first three words are redundant; they add nothing. Except for those of us that are paid by the word ;-) I learned grammar by reading the collected plays

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 6 PIE use flag

It's a feature, not a bug. There's a news item being worked on in > the Gentoo dev list. I'd normally just link to a mail archive, but it's > too new to have been archived yet. Here's a copy of the proposed news > item. Note the example error message about relocation against .rodata > >

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 6 PIE use flag

I'm not so sure. Whether -fPIC is required or not depends on too > many factors and adding it when not needed will bring harm. > > Are you using hardened? > Yes, its on. I haven't hit the error again so it doesnt appear to be too much of an issue.

[gentoo-user] [OT] Horrible English

On Tuesday 09 May 2017 14:29:16 Walter Dnes wrote: > It's a feature, not a bug. There's a news item being worked on in > the Gentoo dev list. I'd normally just link to a mail archive, but it's > too new to have been archived yet. Here's a copy of the proposed news > item. (Quoting order