Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread J García
2017-08-28 14:20 GMT-06:00 : > > used about 3 lines of USE flags, actually it was less than a half hour, which > doesn't surprise me if the stage 3 is compiled. i am using a fairly quick > drive ;(and i was watching vid) had 2 small problems but i'll try

Re: [gentoo-user] Easiest way to block domains?

2017-08-28 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 29 August 2017 07:38:42 GMT+02:00, Walter Dnes wrote: > I'm running a Core2-duo desktop from 2008 with 3 gigs of ram. I want >to run it into the ground, not throw it away while it's still >functional. With Gentoo optimization, pluse using ICEWM, it's >generally

[gentoo-user] Easiest way to block domains?

2017-08-28 Thread Walter Dnes
I'm running a Core2-duo desktop from 2008 with 3 gigs of ram. I want to run it into the ground, not throw it away while it's still functional. With Gentoo optimization, pluse using ICEWM, it's generally snappy. But there are a few web pages that throw the kitchen sink of 3rd-pary

Re: [gentoo-user] processor speed

2017-08-28 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:22 PM, wabe wrote: >> I'm using an AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor. I bought it six or seven >> years ago when it was brand-new. It still works to my satisfaction. But >> of course recent CPUs (for example AMD Ryzen) are much

Re: [gentoo-user] processor speed

2017-08-28 Thread R0b0t1
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:54 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > Hello, I apologize for the tangents. > > The only on-topic comments I can offer are that: yes, those parts seem > to be usable with Gentoo, whereas similarly old parts a decade ago > were not; and, I have been looking for a low

Re: [gentoo-user] processor speed

2017-08-28 Thread R0b0t1
Hello, I apologize for the tangents. The only on-topic comments I can offer are that: yes, those parts seem to be usable with Gentoo, whereas similarly old parts a decade ago were not; and, I have been looking for a low power server setup and would appreciate if you could communicate your

Re: [gentoo-user] processor speed

2017-08-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:29 PM, wabe wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:22 PM, wabe wrote: >> > >> > I'm using an AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor. I bought it six or >> > seven years ago when it was

Re: [gentoo-user] processor speed

2017-08-28 Thread wabe
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:22 PM, wabe wrote: > > > > I'm using an AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor. I bought it six or > > seven years ago when it was brand-new. It still works to my > > satisfaction. But of course recent CPUs (for

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread allan gottlieb
On Mon, Aug 28 2017, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:37 PM, allan gottlieb wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 28 2017, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> I forgot to mention there are things that /significantly/ improve >>> compile times. Top of the list is /var/tmp/portage on

Re: [gentoo-user] processor speed

2017-08-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:22 PM, wabe wrote: > > I'm using an AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor. I bought it six or seven > years ago when it was brand-new. It still works to my satisfaction. But > of course recent CPUs (for example AMD Ryzen) are much faster. Therefore > I

Re: [gentoo-user] processor speed

2017-08-28 Thread Dale
mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: > any one have experiance with athlon, Phenom, and opteron? if so i'm > curios if it's worth a $15-20 expense. > > -- > The Power Of the People Is Stronger Than The People In Charge. Check this site out: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

[gentoo-user] bench marks

2017-08-28 Thread mad.scientist.at.large
   great bench marks,   and yes it's worth me upgrading given current ebay prices. -- The Power Of the People Is Stronger Than The People In Charge.

Re: [gentoo-user] processor speed

2017-08-28 Thread wabe
wrote: > any one have experiance with athlon, Phenom, and opteron?  if so i'm > curios if it's worth a $15-20 expense. I'm using an AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor. I bought it six or seven years ago when it was brand-new. It still works to my

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread mad.scientist.at.large
excellent idea, thanks. -- The Power Of the People Is Stronger Than The People In Charge. 28. Aug 2017 12:45 by jo...@antarean.org: > On 28 August 2017 20:37:30 GMT+02:00, allan gottlieb <> gottl...@nyu.edu> > > wrote: > >On Mon, Aug 28 2017, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> I forgot to mention

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread mad.scientist.at.large
good tip, thanks. -- The Power Of the People Is Stronger Than The People In Charge. 28. Aug 2017 12:55 by ri...@gentoo.org: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:37 PM, allan gottlieb <> gottl...@nyu.edu> > wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 28 2017, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> I forgot to mention there are things

[gentoo-user] processor speed

2017-08-28 Thread mad.scientist.at.large
any one have experiance with athlon, Phenom, and opteron?  if so i'm curios if it's worth a $15-20 expense. -- The Power Of the People Is Stronger Than The People In Charge.

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread mad.scientist.at.large
oh ya, i' definetly watch  like a hawk evntually.  i'm using all cat  7 wiring, with different  network cards i could go 10G between my machines.  I went with cat 7, mostly to make sure it was screened properly, and some what future proof. -- The Power Of the People Is Stronger Than The

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread mad.scientist.at.large
used about 3 lines of USE flags, actually it was less than a half hour, which doesn't surprise me if the stage 3 is compiled.   i am using a fairly quick drive ;(and i was watching vid)  had 2  small problems but i'll try again off the live dvd.  i got an error with the rbind "mount --rbind

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/08/2017 18:55, John Blinka wrote: > invariably works. I'm not criticizing your speedup plans - by all > means, have fun - but if you're just starting out in Gentoo, be aware > that these speedups aren't necessarily a slam-dunk. OP should also watch out for the Gentoo ricer curse

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:37 PM, allan gottlieb wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28 2017, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> I forgot to mention there are things that /significantly/ improve >> compile times. Top of the list is /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs. > > Does this mean that, if the build fails,

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 28 August 2017 20:37:30 GMT+02:00, allan gottlieb wrote: >On Mon, Aug 28 2017, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> I forgot to mention there are things that /significantly/ improve >> compile times. Top of the list is /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs. > >Does this mean that, if the build

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread allan gottlieb
On Mon, Aug 28 2017, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I forgot to mention there are things that /significantly/ improve > compile times. Top of the list is /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs. Does this mean that, if the build fails, you build again not on tmpfs so as to capture build.log? thanks, allan

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread John Blinka
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:41 AM, wrote: > Ok, i'm starting to understand the install instructions, a steeper curve > than i expected but still way easier than LFS. > So, on a dual core athlon II 6000 (two cores, 3ghz) roughly how long will > stage3 take to

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/08/2017 18:47, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> On 28/08/2017 13:41, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: >>> Ok, i'm starting to understand the install instructions, a steeper curve >>> than i expected but

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 28/08/2017 13:41, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: >> Ok, i'm starting to understand the install instructions, a steeper curve >> than i expected but still way easier than LFS. >> So, on a dual core

Re: [gentoo-user] Failed to load driver: Nouveau

2017-08-28 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 6:30 PM, IceAmber wrote: > here is the result > > iceamber@localhost:~ $ lsmod | grep nouveau > nouveau 1507328 2 > i2c_algo_bit 16384 1 nouveau > drm_kms_helper118784 1 nouveau > ttm77824 1

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/08/2017 13:41, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: > Ok, i'm starting to understand the install instructions, a steeper curve > than i expected but still way easier than LFS. > So, on a dual core athlon II 6000 (two cores, 3ghz)  roughly how long > will stage3 take to compile,

Re: [gentoo-user] Failed to load driver: Nouveau

2017-08-28 Thread IceAmber
here is the result iceamber@localhost:~ $ lsmod | grep nouveau nouveau 1507328 2 i2c_algo_bit 16384 1 nouveau drm_kms_helper118784 1 nouveau ttm77824 1 nouveau drm 282624 5 nouveau,ttm,drm_kms_helper agpgart

Re: [gentoo-user] Failed to load driver: Nouveau

2017-08-28 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Aug 28, 2017 17:57, "Alexander Kapshuk" wrote: On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:38 PM, IceAmber wrote: > `du -a /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ | sed '/nouveau.ko$/!d;s/.*\t//'` as the > same result > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:36 PM, IceAmber

Re: [gentoo-user] Failed to load driver: Nouveau

2017-08-28 Thread IceAmber
here is the result On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Alexander Kapshuk < alexander.kaps...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:38 PM, IceAmber wrote: > > `du -a /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ | sed

Re: [gentoo-user] Failed to load driver: Nouveau

2017-08-28 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:38 PM, IceAmber wrote: > `du -a /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ | sed '/nouveau.ko$/!d;s/.*\t//'` as the > same result > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:36 PM, IceAmber wrote: >> >> the result is >> iceamber@localhost:~ $ modinfo

Re: [gentoo-user] Failed to load driver: Nouveau

2017-08-28 Thread IceAmber
`du -a /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ | sed '/nouveau.ko$/!d;s/.*\t//'` as the same result On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:36 PM, IceAmber wrote: > the result is > iceamber@localhost:~ $ modinfo nouveau | grep filename > filename:

Re: [gentoo-user] Failed to load driver: Nouveau

2017-08-28 Thread IceAmber
the result is iceamber@localhost:~ $ modinfo nouveau | grep filename filename: /lib/modules/4.12.5-gentoo/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:17 PM, David Abbott wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:00 AM, IceAmber

Re: [gentoo-user] Question on install

2017-08-28 Thread mad.scientist.at.large
correct, i plan to soon use someone with encryption and a "normal" non web based reader.  i know there are other providers for this.  sorry about the top postine, yes it's very clumsy just to try bottom posting.  the problem with unencrypted or merely ssl encryption is it's severly broken, when

[gentoo-user] Problems with XFCE probably after last update

2017-08-28 Thread Alexey Eschenko
Hi everyone. I'm experiencing some strange problems after last XFCE update on my desktop system (and less on my laptop). 1. (desktop only) After DE startup I'm encountering error message telling me that Notification Area plugin unexceptedly stopped (or something like that) with two options:

Re: [gentoo-user] Failed to load driver: Nouveau

2017-08-28 Thread David Abbott
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:00 AM, IceAmber wrote: > so, what should I do to locate the driver? > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Alexander Kapshuk > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:41 PM, IceAmber wrote: >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Failed to load driver: Nouveau

2017-08-28 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:00 PM, IceAmber wrote: > so, what should I do to locate the driver? > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Alexander Kapshuk > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:41 PM, IceAmber wrote: >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Failed to load driver: Nouveau

2017-08-28 Thread IceAmber
so, what should I do to locate the driver? On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Alexander Kapshuk < alexander.kaps...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:41 PM, IceAmber wrote: > > No, the error still there. > > And the script `modinfo /lib/modules/`uname

Re: [gentoo-user] Failed to load driver: Nouveau

2017-08-28 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:41 PM, IceAmber wrote: > No, the error still there. > And the script `modinfo /lib/modules/`uname -r`/path/to/nouveau.ko` shows > iceamber@localhost:~ $ modinfo /lib/modules/`uname -r`/path/to/nouveau.ko > modinfo: ERROR: Module

[gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread mad.scientist.at.large
Ok, i'm starting to understand the install instructions, a steeper curve than i expected but still way easier than LFS. So, on a dual core athlon II 6000 (two cores, 3ghz)  roughly how long will stage3 take to compile, roughly? next month i'll be setting up a compiler farm with 3 other,

Re: [gentoo-user] Failed to load driver: Nouveau

2017-08-28 Thread IceAmber
No, the error still there. And the script `modinfo /lib/modules/`uname -r`/path/to/nouveau.ko` shows iceamber@localhost:~ $ modinfo /lib/modules/`uname -r`/path/to/nouveau.ko modinfo: ERROR: Module /lib/modules/4.12.5-gentoo/path/to/nouveau.ko not found. On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Alexander

Re: [gentoo-user] certbot confusion

2017-08-28 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 27 August 2017 02:30:51 GMT+02:00, "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote: >On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Ian Zimmerman >wrote: >> >> I don't understand the letsencrypt certbot renewal process, >specifically >> the hooks. >> >> I have two certificates: one