Re: [gentoo-user] Intel ucode updates for ME issues?

2017-11-22 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 11/23/2017 12:47 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: I think the information I outlined is a pretty good argument for assuming the ME can not be disabled. Even if true, there's not much to be done about it anyway Yeah it certainly can't be disabled (I argue this point on a regular basis to no avail), as in

Re: [gentoo-user] Intel ucode updates for ME issues?

2017-11-22 Thread R0b0t1
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 10:36 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > On 11/22/2017 11:16 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > >> Does anyone have more information on this? Has anything been >> published? I'm interested in exploiting my own computers so I can >> control the ME. > > It seems that it is the

Re: [gentoo-user] Intel ucode updates for ME issues?

2017-11-22 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 11/22/2017 11:16 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: Does anyone have more information on this? Has anything been published? I'm interested in exploiting my own computers so I can control the ME. It seems that it is the same people who figured out HAP mode but they haven't made a blog update I would ask on

Re: [gentoo-user] Intel ucode updates for ME issues?

2017-11-22 Thread R0b0t1
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 6:03 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > Using ME cleaner would also solve the issue and you wouldn't need any more > firmware updates when the next "bug" comes around. > Intel ME has been found to remain active after being disabled, and some motherboards that

Re: [gentoo-user] Intel ucode updates for ME issues?

2017-11-22 Thread R0b0t1
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:42 PM, Adam Carter wrote: > I notice that an update for sys-firmware/intel-microcode just come through > on ~amd64, does that address the ME issues? > No. As a sidenote, microcode updates can only remove or patch out functionality. They can't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-22 Thread John Campbell
I don't know if this has been suggested yet, but I run cron on UTC, which doesn't do daylight saving time. It's an option in cronie to set the TZ for crontab. I just have to transcode times from local to UTC when setting up the job.

Re: [gentoo-user] Intel ucode updates for ME issues?

2017-11-22 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 11/22/2017 12:42 AM, Adam Carter wrote: I notice that an update for sys-firmware/intel-microcode just come through on ~amd64, does that address the ME issues? http://www.zdnet.com/article/intel-weve-found-severe-bugs-in-secretive-management-engine-affecting-millions/ Or will my NUC need a

Re: [gentoo-user] is multi-core really worth it?

2017-11-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 09:57:29 +0100, David Haller wrote: > Hm. What's this EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS though? ;)) And > how can I override them if not wanted? .oO( gotta read up on that )Oo. man make.conf man emerge emerge --ignore-default-opts -- Neil Bothwick The trouble with life is that you are

Re: [gentoo-user] is multi-core really worth it?

2017-11-22 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 3:34:56 PM CET Wols Lists wrote: > On 22/11/17 14:11, Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor wrote: > > You won't get build failures or dependency problems, portage is built to > > handle emerging multiple packages that do not depend on each other > > simultaneously. > > it will not

Re: [gentoo-user] is multi-core really worth it?

2017-11-22 Thread Wols Lists
On 22/11/17 14:11, Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor wrote: > > You won't get build failures or dependency problems, portage is built to > handle emerging multiple packages that do not depend on each other > simultaneously. > it will not ever build a dependency and the main program at the same time. Are you

Re: [gentoo-user] is multi-core really worth it?

2017-11-22 Thread Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor
From: Raffaele Belardi Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 8:12 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] is multi-core really worth it? Jeremi Piotrowski wrote: > That being said: if you do a world rebuild you will have lots of packages > that spend

Re: [gentoo-user] is multi-core really worth it?

2017-11-22 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 2:12:31 PM CET Raffaele Belardi wrote: > Jeremi Piotrowski wrote: > > That being said: if you do a world rebuild you will have lots of packages > > that spend ~40 seconds doing their autoconf run, only to build 2-3 sources > > files. On an 8-core machine at work, I

Re: [gentoo-user] is multi-core really worth it?

2017-11-22 Thread Raffaele Belardi
Jeremi Piotrowski wrote: > That being said: if you do a world rebuild you will have lots of packages > that spend ~40 seconds doing their autoconf run, only to build 2-3 sources > files. On an 8-core machine at work, I get good results using parallel > emerge jobs (emerge -jX). For your 6-core AMD

Re: [gentoo-user] is multi-core really worth it?

2017-11-22 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday, 22 November 2017 08:57:29 GMT David Haller wrote: > Hello, > > On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, J. Roeleveld wrote: > >On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 8:48:08 AM CET David Haller wrote: > >> So, your emerge is mostly IO and "emerge"-threads bound. Solution: > >> adjust your build-threads[1],

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: is multi-core really worth it?

2017-11-22 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Martin Vaeth wrote: >David Haller wrote: >> autotools is _by far_the best both from a users and a packagers view. > >I do not agree. Its main advantage is that it is compatible with >most existing unix systems (but I am already not so sure whether

Re: [gentoo-user] is multi-core really worth it?

2017-11-22 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, J. Roeleveld wrote: >On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 8:48:08 AM CET David Haller wrote: >> So, your emerge is mostly IO and "emerge"-threads bound. Solution: >> adjust your build-threads[1], and then adjust your emerge jobs! See >> '--jobs' in 'man emerge'. Can't find

[gentoo-user] Re: is multi-core really worth it?

2017-11-22 Thread Martin Vaeth
David Haller wrote: > autotools is _by far_the best both from a users and a packagers view. I do not agree. Its main advantage is that it is compatible with most existing unix systems (but I am already not so sure whether this also holds if you also want to compile for

Re: [gentoo-user] is multi-core really worth it?

2017-11-22 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Jeremi Piotrowski wrote: >That being said: if you do a world rebuild you will have lots of packages that (even without the fetch) spend 40 seconds setting up the emerge (unpack, prepare (plus eautoreconf))... >that spend ~40 seconds doing their autoconf run, only to

Re: [gentoo-user] is multi-core really worth it?

2017-11-22 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 8:48:08 AM CET David Haller wrote: > Hello, > > On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Raffaele Belardi wrote: > >rebuilding system and world with gcc-7.2.0 on a 6-core AMD CPU I have > >the impression that most of the ebuilds limit parallel builds to 1, 2 > >or 3 threads. > > Most

Re: [gentoo-user] is multi-core really worth it?

2017-11-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 08:26:01 +0100, Jeremi Piotrowski wrote: > That being said: if you do a world rebuild you will have lots of > packages that spend ~40 seconds doing their autoconf run, only to build > 2-3 sources files. On an 8-core machine at work, I get good results > using parallel emerge