[gentoo-user] Running 3rd-party Ubuntu apps on Gentoo

2018-01-06 Thread Grant Edwards
What's a good way to run 3rd party apps packaged for Ubuntu? There are a few third-party binary applications on which I depend. They're usually distributed as .rpm for RedHat and .deb for Ubuntu. AFAICT, Gentoo and Ubuntu library names generally match, while RedHat seems to slightly munge many

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-06 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 09:50:59PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote > On Saturday, 6 January 2018 18:34:36 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sat, 06 Jan 2018 16:00:14 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > grep linguas_en /var/portage/profiles/use.desc > > > > linguas_en - English locale > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge @preserved-rebuild failure

2018-01-06 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Sat, 2018-01-06 at 23:42 +0200, zless wrote: > În ziua de sâmbătă, 6 ianuarie 2018, la 23:25:32 EET, Hartmut Figge a > scris: > > zless: > > > Could you also take a look at the file > > > /var/lib/portage/preserved_libs_registry ? > > > > hafi@i5-64 ~ $ cat

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge @preserved-rebuild failure

2018-01-06 Thread zless
În ziua de sâmbătă, 6 ianuarie 2018, la 23:51:59 EET, Hartmut Figge a scris: > Hrm. Replacing the obviously corrupt preserved_libs_registry with the > clean one from my backup? That would be the end of the investigation. You could also check if those readline-6 preserved libs really exist:

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Re: Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-01-06, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Then there's that old one about the Native American chief who > observed that only a white man could think that cutting a foot off > the bottom of a blanket and sewing it onto the top would give him a > longer blanket. I'm pretty

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge @preserved-rebuild failure

2018-01-06 Thread Hartmut Figge
zless: >Smells a bit as some sort of bug. Try rebuilding readline? That's what I hesitated to do in fear of blurring clues. Done. i5-64 /home/hafi # emerge -q readline >>> Verifying ebuild manifests >>> Emerging (1 of 1) sys-libs/readline-7.0_p3::gentoo >>> Installing (1 of 1)

[OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 6 January 2018 18:34:36 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 06 Jan 2018 16:00:14 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > grep linguas_en /var/portage/profiles/use.desc > > > linguas_en - English locale > > > linguas_en_AU - English locale for Australia > > > linguas_en_CA - English locale

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 6 January 2018 17:33:22 GMT Mike Gilbert wrote: > I updated the description for en_US. > > linguas_en - English locale > linguas_en_AU - English locale for Australia > linguas_en_CA - English locale for Canada > linguas_en_GB - English locale for Britain > linguas_en_US - English

[gentoo-user] Re: Connman refuses to work

2018-01-06 Thread Melleus
Neil Bothwick writes: > On Sat, 06 Jan 2018 18:46:25 +0200, Melleus wrote: > >> > What do the logs say? >> That's all I could find in syslog: >> >> connmand[6709]: Aborting (signal 11) [/usr/sbin/connmand] >> >> > Can you start it manually? >> >> No, it pretends to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge @preserved-rebuild failure

2018-01-06 Thread zless
În ziua de sâmbătă, 6 ianuarie 2018, la 23:25:32 EET, Hartmut Figge a scris: > zless: > >Could you also take a look at the file > >/var/lib/portage/preserved_libs_registry ? > > hafi@i5-64 ~ $ cat /var/lib/portage/preserved_libs_registry > { > "sys-libs/readline:0": [ >

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge @preserved-rebuild failure

2018-01-06 Thread Hartmut Figge
zless: >Could you also take a look at the file >/var/lib/portage/preserved_libs_registry ? hafi@i5-64 ~ $ cat /var/lib/portage/preserved_libs_registry { "sys-libs/readline:0": [ "sys-libs/readline-7.0_p3", "10658", [ "/lib64/libreadline.so.6.3",

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge @preserved-rebuild failure

2018-01-06 Thread zless
În ziua de sâmbătă, 6 ianuarie 2018, la 23:04:21 EET, Hartmut Figge a scris: > There is no rest. I can give the whole output for the last emerge > command which ended with the above line. Doubt that will be helpful. Could you also take a look at the file /var/lib/portage/preserved_libs_registry ?

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge @preserved-rebuild failure

2018-01-06 Thread Hartmut Figge
Neil Bothwick: >On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 21:21:16 +0100, Hartmut Figge wrote: >> Mostly stable Gentoo. After having fun with linguas *g* >> >> !!! existing preserved libs found > >What's the rest of this output, it should list the packages and files >involved. There is no rest. I can give the whole

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild failure

2018-01-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 21:21:16 +0100, Hartmut Figge wrote: > Mostly stable Gentoo. After having fun with linguas *g* > > !!! existing preserved libs found What's the rest of this output, it should list the packages and files involved. > i5-64 /home/hafi # emerge -q @preserved-rebuild > > emerge:

[gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild failure

2018-01-06 Thread Hartmut Figge
Greetings, Mostly stable Gentoo. After having fun with linguas *g* !!! existing preserved libs found i5-64 /home/hafi # emerge -q @preserved-rebuild emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "dev-lang/ruby:2.1". (dependency required by "@preserved-rebuild" [argument]) [?] dev-lang/ruby

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-06 Thread allan gottlieb
On Sat, Jan 06 2018, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 06 Jan 2018 16:00:14 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> I object to that (not you, Neil, some dev or other). I live in England; >> I speak English. People who live in America speak their own version of >> it, adapted from the original. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Connman refuses to work

2018-01-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 06 Jan 2018 18:46:25 +0200, Melleus wrote: > > What do the logs say? > That's all I could find in syslog: > > connmand[6709]: Aborting (signal 11) [/usr/sbin/connmand] > > > Can you start it manually? > > No, it pretends to start but fails silently. Looking at the man page, try

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 06 Jan 2018 16:00:14 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > grep linguas_en /var/portage/profiles/use.desc > > linguas_en - English locale > > linguas_en_AU - English locale for Australia > > linguas_en_CA - English locale for Canada > > linguas_en_GB - English locale for Britain > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-06 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday, 6 January 2018 15:50:56 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 15:39:45 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: >> > > Ahem! American "English", I think you mean. >> > >> > Yes, though for most programs

[gentoo-user] Re: Connman refuses to work

2018-01-06 Thread Melleus
Neil Bothwick writes: > On Sat, 06 Jan 2018 17:37:37 +0200, Melleus wrote: > >> I use openrc. Connman pretends to start, but when checking its status >> with: >> >> /etc/init.d/connman status >> >> I get >> >> * status: crashed >> >> message. So for some unclear reason it

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching from Seamonkey to Firefox and Thunderbird

2018-01-06 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday, 6 January 2018 13:30:30 GMT Dale wrote: > >> I'm not sure that LastPass works with Palemoon so even if it does, another >> problem pops up. > Nope, it doesn't. At least, not the last time I tried it just a few months > ago. > I like LastPass but I even tried

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 6 January 2018 15:50:56 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 15:39:45 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > > Ahem! American "English", I think you mean. > > > > Yes, though for most programs [spell-checkers being the obvious > > exception] and most non-US English speakers

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 6 January 2018 15:39:45 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2018-01-06, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Friday, 5 January 2018 20:19:19 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > >> It looks like most of the other broken packages just get rebuilt with > >> no languages supported (which

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 15:39:45 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > Ahem! American "English", I think you mean. > > Yes, though for most programs [spell-checkers being the obvious > exception] and most non-US English speakers who expected en_GB, I > doubt they'd have any problems using programs

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching from Seamonkey to Firefox and Thunderbird

2018-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 6 January 2018 13:30:30 GMT Dale wrote: > I'm not sure that LastPass works with Palemoon so even if it does, another > problem pops up. Nope, it doesn't. At least, not the last time I tried it just a few months ago. -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Connman refuses to work

2018-01-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 06 Jan 2018 17:37:37 +0200, Melleus wrote: > I use openrc. Connman pretends to start, but when checking its status > with: > > /etc/init.d/connman status > > I get > > * status: crashed > > message. So for some unclear reason it cannot start properly. What do the logs say? Can you

[gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-01-06, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday, 5 January 2018 20:19:19 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > >> It looks like most of the other broken packages just get rebuilt with >> no languages supported (which means they probably still work for an >> english speaker). > >

[gentoo-user] Re: Connman refuses to work

2018-01-06 Thread Melleus
Rich Freeman writes: > On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 7:33 AM, Melleus wrote: >> After last system update my connman refuses to work. It throws a >> message: >> The name net.connman was not provided by any .service files >> >> There is connman service

[gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-01-06, Mart Raudsepp wrote: >> How do you show the complete set of use flags including expanded >> ones? > > LINGUAS is not expanded anymore. So does euse show expanded variables? -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-06 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Fri, 2018-01-05 at 18:53 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > I haven't changed LINGUAS or L10N for ages, but I've noticed that > suddely other packages are being rebuild without linguas_en and > linguas_en_us. > > Is make.conf's LINGUAS variable no longer being expanded? Correct. See

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching from Seamonkey to Firefox and Thunderbird

2018-01-06 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 07:30:30 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> I was able to tell it to open with Firefox.  That is as far as it would >> go tho.  I have multiple profiles for Firefox and while it would let me >> pick which one to use, it would only show a error that it was already in

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching from Seamonkey to Firefox and Thunderbird

2018-01-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 07:30:30 -0600, Dale wrote: > I was able to tell it to open with Firefox.  That is as far as it would > go tho.  I have multiple profiles for Firefox and while it would let me > pick which one to use, it would only show a error that it was already in > use.  It wouldn't open

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Expect a ~15% average slowdown if you use an Intel processor

2018-01-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 8:58 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > I'm running openrc. On my 32-bit install, Intel Core2 duo, I get... > > zgrep BPF /proc/config.gz > CONFIG_BPF=y > # CONFIG_BPF_SYSCALL is not set > # CONFIG_NETFILTER_XT_MATCH_BPF is not set > # CONFIG_TEST_BPF is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Expect a ~15% average slowdown if you use an Intel processor

2018-01-06 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 11:26:43AM +1100, Adam Carter wrote > > > > > So, HAVE_EBPF_JIT=y just means that BPF JIT _can_ be done on x86. There > > > is a separate BPF_JIT setting to actually enable it. > > > > Well, that doesn't seem to be present here. Just the HAVE_ symbol. > > > Careful,

Re: [gentoo-user] Connman refuses to work

2018-01-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 7:33 AM, Melleus wrote: > After last system update my connman refuses to work. It throws a > message: > The name net.connman was not provided by any .service files > > There is connman service installed in default runlevel. Connman version > is

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching from Seamonkey to Firefox and Thunderbird

2018-01-06 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday, 5 January 2018 21:04:30 GMT Dale wrote: > >> I found someone else wanting the same thing, well, close enough anyway. >> It seems this isn't doable. I find it odd that a email program can't be >> configured to open links in a running browser without the two

[gentoo-user] Re: Connman refuses to work

2018-01-06 Thread Melleus
Melleus writes: > working. I suspect that this is somehow tied with the questionable > design of the softwares related to systemd (I moved to Gentoo with > OpenRC to escape from systemd intervention). But I cannot really > understand what is happening. Does anybody have

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -e and --resume

2018-01-06 Thread allan gottlieb
On Fri, Jan 05 2018, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 01/05/18 18:50, allan gottlieb wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 05 2018, Daniel Frey wrote: >> >>> On 01/05/18 13:15, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 05 Jan 2018 13:00:20 -0500, allan gottlieb wrote: > I am finally moving my production machine the the

[gentoo-user] Connman refuses to work

2018-01-06 Thread Melleus
After last system update my connman refuses to work. It throws a message: The name net.connman was not provided by any .service files There is connman service installed in default runlevel. Connman version is 1.29. I had not changed any configuration file before it stopped working. I suspect that

Re: [gentoo-user] Plasma device notifier shows wrong free space on USB disks

2018-01-06 Thread Flavio Cappelli
>> ... >> >> I tried with three different USB drives and the behavior is the same: >> >> - 4GB flash drive on USB2 interface, vfat formatted, 3.3GB free >> - 128GB flash drive on USB3 interface, exfat formatted, 107GB free >> - 500GB external HDD on USB2 interface, ext4 formatted, 468GB free >> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -e and --resume

2018-01-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 06 Jan 2018 09:40:32 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > If the emerge has completed, there is nothing to resume. Just make a > > > note > > > of the packages that failed to build ans emerge --oneshot them, > > > with any necessary fixes. > > > > Thank you. So far (only 104 to go) just

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 5 January 2018 20:19:19 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > It looks like most of the other broken packages just get rebuilt with > no languages supported (which means they probably still work for an > english speaker). Ahem! American "English", I think you mean. > I suspect that at some

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -e and --resume

2018-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 6 January 2018 02:49:53 GMT allan gottlieb wrote: > On Fri, Jan 05 2018, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Fri, 05 Jan 2018 13:00:20 -0500, allan gottlieb wrote: > >> I am finally moving my production machine the the 17.0 profile. > >> Currently running is > >> > >> emerge -e

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching from Seamonkey to Firefox and Thunderbird

2018-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 5 January 2018 21:04:30 GMT Dale wrote: > I found someone else wanting the same thing, well, close enough anyway. > It seems this isn't doable. I find it odd that a email program can't be > configured to open links in a running browser without the two programs > being the same.