[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Hardened vs Kali Linux

On 2018-04-02 21:14, Grant Taylor wrote: > Though I do think that reading the Linux from Scratch book and doing > the install along with the book will likely teach more about Linux (as > it existed at the time) Does that mean LFS is dead? That would be a pity. -- Please don't Cc: me privately

[gentoo-user] Warning: stabilized glibc breaks encryption in some cases

See bug 637164, including my last comment -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also post the followup to the list or newsgroup. To reply privately _only_ on Usenet and on broken lists which rewrite From, fetch the TXT record for no-use.mooo.com.

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Hardened vs Kali Linux

On 04/02/2018 08:47 PM, Adam Carter wrote: If you haven't installed and maintained a gentoo system before, its a great way of building a solid foundation of knowledge. Agreed. Though I do think that reading the Linux from Scratch book and doing the install along with the book will likely

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Hardened vs Kali Linux

> > I want to learn from scratch securing Linux and ethical hacking. Should I >> do as the most people so install Kali Linux on virtual machine or install >> Gentoo Hardened with Pentoo overlay on my PC? I heard a lot of negative >> opinions about Kali Linux. >> > If you haven't installed and

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Hardened vs Kali Linux

Do people actually dual boot with pentesting distros? I was always > under the impression you were supposed to load it from removable > storage Blackhats would load from removable storage, but I imagine whitehats would prefer a stable setup with easy retention of info.

[gentoo-user] KDE update revdep-rebuild.sh fail

I updated my PC today, and there was a lot of KDE-related packages being updated. As part of my usual update procedure I depclean'ed and ran revdep-rebuild.sh - and it wants to rebuild every single package on my system? Surely that has to be some kind of mistake? Anyone have any insight? Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

Philip Webb wrote: > 180402 Dale wrote: >> After each period at the end of a sentence, I put in two spaces, not one. >> Something I was taught years ago somewhere and still do. >> I only put one after a comma tho. > That is correct professional secretarial style, which I always follow too. > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Hardened vs Kali Linux

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 2:02 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > /* loading hacking tools /* > > I met someone who said he games on kaliwhy? all the elite hackers > use it - it is a very powerful linux that is perfect for dual-booting > with windows 10 due to its high level of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

180402 Dale wrote: > After each period at the end of a sentence, I put in two spaces, not one. > Something I was taught years ago somewhere and still do. > I only put one after a comma tho. That is correct professional secretarial style, which I always follow too. > Could that be triggering

Re: [gentoo-user] bash scrip prompt after bootstrap

On Mon 2 Apr 2018 at 14:36:00 -0400, Tom H wrote: > You have "dev/tty". It should be "/dev/tty". Thank you for catching that typo, I lost the slash somewhere between the first and second syntax. In my case it was harmless, because I chrooted into a filesystem root, such that dev/tty ==

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

Martin Vaeth wrote: > Daniel Frey wrote: >> On 04/02/18 08:21, Ian Zimmerman wrote: >>> BTW, your mails are full of strange space characters >> I don't see any extra spaces in Dale's message > After every "." there is a non-breakable space inserted. > I guess this is an attempt

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Hardened vs Kali Linux

/* loading hacking tools /* I met someone who said he games on kaliwhy? all the elite hackers use it - it is a very powerful linux that is perfect for dual-booting with windows 10 due to its high level of security.

[gentoo-user] Re: bash scrip prompt after bootstrap

On 2018-04-02 19:18, Bas Zoutendijk wrote: > That is exactly what I meant to do, and I admit it is rather kludgey. > Because of the single quotes, which are around everything but $HOST, > the double quotes are literally echoed. The child shell will > therefore see the PS1 definition surrounded

Re: [gentoo-user] bash scrip prompt after bootstrap

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:54 PM, wrote: > On 03/30/2018 11:10 AM, Bas Zoutendijk wrote: >> On Fri 30 Mar 2018 at 10:33:45 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>> >>> I'm using a scrip to log-in/boot strap the system over NFS >>> >>> - >>> #!/bin/sh >>> >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

180402 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2018-04-02 08:26, Daniel Frey wrote: >> I don't see any extra spaces in Dale's message, you should also >> probably check your local configuration. > They render fine for me in mutt/neomutt, too. Same here. > I can only see the strange spaces in my editor (emacs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bash scrip prompt after bootstrap

On Mon 2 Apr 2018 at 09:25:57 -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Ah, this is a comedy of errors. You've missed my intended point, which > was wrong; but now I see the real problem. > > I missed the outermost single quotes in your echo command, so I thought > the parent shell would strip the double

Re: [gentoo-user] bash scrip prompt after bootstrap

On 04/02/2018 03:29 AM, Bas Zoutendijk wrote: > On Mon 2 Apr 2018 at 10:25:45 +0200, David Haller wrote: >> You owe me a dollar! >> >> export PS1="$(chroot '$HOST') $PS1"; >> ^ > > The text within the parentheses was meant as literal text, the chroot > command is executed

[gentoo-user] Re: bash scrip prompt after bootstrap

On 2018-04-02 17:55, Bas Zoutendijk wrote: > What my syntax is doing is to let the $PS1 inside the PS1 definition > be evaluated by the chroot shell. Suppose you run this command with > HOST=eden and ROOT=/mnt/eden: > > echo 'export PS1="(chroot '$HOST') $PS1"; exec $ROOT /bin/bash -i > >

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

Daniel Frey wrote: > On 04/02/18 08:21, Ian Zimmerman wrote: >> >> BTW, your mails are full of strange space characters > > I don't see any extra spaces in Dale's message After every "." there is a non-breakable space inserted. I guess this is an attempt of some editor to

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Hardened vs Kali Linux

On 03/31/2018 09:37 AM, Hubert Hauser wrote: Hello! Hi, I want to learn from scratch securing Linux and ethical hacking. Should I do as the most people so install Kali Linux on virtual machine or install Gentoo Hardened with Pentoo overlay on my PC? I heard a lot of negative opinions about

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bash scrip prompt after bootstrap

On Mon 2 Apr 2018 at 08:14:40 -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > This pipe is something of a Rube Goldberg device. Why not pass the > variable directly: > > chroot $ROOT /usr/bin/env PS1="(chrooted to $HOST) $PS1" bash That is of course a lot more elegant, I must have been half-asleep when I

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

On 2018-04-02 08:26, Daniel Frey wrote: > I don't see any extra spaces in Dale's message, you should also > probably check your local configuration. They render fine for me in mutt/neomutt, too. I can only see the strange spaces in my editor (emacs 24) when I start replying to him and quote his

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

On 04/02/18 08:21, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2018-04-02 03:59, Dale wrote: > >> That last bit should read can NOT win. Brain didn't quite make it all >> the way to keyboard. lol > > I read it as beautifully subtle sarcasm, so it worked fine as it was. > > BTW, your mails are full of strange

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

On 2018-04-02 03:59, Dale wrote: > That last bit should read can NOT win. Brain didn't quite make it all > the way to keyboard. lol I read it as beautifully subtle sarcasm, so it worked fine as it was. BTW, your mails are full of strange space characters - I didn't investigate if they're some

[gentoo-user] Re: bash scrip prompt after bootstrap

On 2018-04-02 11:29, Bas Zoutendijk wrote: > echo 'export PS1="You have chrooted into '$HOST' from $PS1"; exec \ >

[gentoo-user] Re: [TOT: Total offtopic]

On 2018-04-02 01:28, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > I have one from almost 10 years ago, whats the difference :[? how can > you tell? You mean Unicomp? At that time, although they were not quite the old IBM, they were close, probably still using the original design to which they had bought rights.

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

Bill Kenworthy wrote: > On 02/04/18 13:41, Martin Vaeth wrote: >> Bill Kenworthy wrote: >>> I use the palemoon overlay. >> There is also the octopus overlay. >> Anyway, both can only react to upstream. >> >>> builds fine with gcc-6.4 >> Yes, but it has

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

Walter Dnes wrote: > Mind you, the Pale Moon team may not > have the staffing level required to write a new compiler, maintain a > politically correct "community", integrate real-time-chat into the > browser, integrate "Pocket" into the browser, rewrite the GUI every so >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

On 02/04/18 13:41, Martin Vaeth wrote: > Bill Kenworthy wrote: >> I use the palemoon overlay. > There is also the octopus overlay. > Anyway, both can only react to upstream. > >> builds fine with gcc-6.4 > Yes, but it has random crashes which do not occur with gcc-5, > and as

Re: [gentoo-user] bash scrip prompt after bootstrap

On Mon 2 Apr 2018 at 10:25:45 +0200, David Haller wrote: > You owe me a dollar! > > export PS1="$(chroot '$HOST') $PS1"; > ^ The text within the parentheses was meant as literal text, the chroot command is executed rightward of the pipe. I could just as well write

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and addons no longer supported question

Dale wrote: > tu...@posteo.de wrote: >> >> Hi Dale, >> >> >> to wetten your appetite...;) >> Here is an exerpt of the wikepedia page for waterfox: >> >> Waterfox differs from Firefox in a number of ways by: >> Disabling Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) >> Disabling Web Runtime >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and addons no longer supported question

tu...@posteo.de wrote: > On 03/30 10:36, Dale wrote: >> tu...@posteo.de wrote: >>> On 03/30 09:45, Dale wrote: tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Hi, > > I switched to waterfox for privacy reasons and it supports the older > plugin system. > No need to stay to older

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

On Mon, Apr 02, 2018 at 05:41:03AM +, Martin Vaeth wrote I don't speak officially for Pale Moon. See https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=4=7818 for the official word about the manpower situation. Mind you, the Pale Moon team may not have the staffing level required to write a new

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

tu...@posteo.de wrote: > On 04/02 05:41, Martin Vaeth wrote: >> Bill Kenworthy wrote: >>> I use the palemoon overlay. >> There is also the octopus overlay. >> Anyway, both can only react to upstream. >> >>> builds fine with gcc-6.4 >> Yes, but it has random crashes which do

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

On 04/02 08:23, Martin Vaeth wrote: > tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > On 04/02 05:41, Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> It seems currently that mozilla, google, and apple are the only > >> oranganizations with enough resources to maintain full browsers, > >> and any forks of their browsers

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

tu...@posteo.de wrote: > On 04/02 05:41, Martin Vaeth wrote: >> It seems currently that mozilla, google, and apple are the only >> oranganizations with enough resources to maintain full browsers, >> and any forks of their browsers which diverge more than a patchset >> of

Re: [gentoo-user] bash scrip prompt after bootstrap

Hello, On Sun, 01 Apr 2018, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >On 03/30/2018 11:10 AM, Bas Zoutendijk wrote: [..] >> echo 'export PS1="(chroot '$HOST') $PS1"; exec > $ROOT /bin/bash -i >The above syntax produced an error: > >chroot-eden: line 30: syntax error near unexpected token `('

Re: [gentoo-user] bash scrip prompt after bootstrap

On Sun 1 Apr 2018 at 20:54:13 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > The above syntax produced an error: > > chroot-eden: line 30: syntax error near unexpected token `(' > chroot-eden: line 30: `echo 'export PS1="(chroot '$HOST') $PS1"; exec > > I've tried it without brackets "()" no effect.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

On 04/02 05:41, Martin Vaeth wrote: > Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > I use the palemoon overlay. > > There is also the octopus overlay. > Anyway, both can only react to upstream. > > > builds fine with gcc-6.4 > > Yes, but it has random crashes which do not occur with gcc-5, >