Re: [gentoo-user] =|

[R0b0t1]

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Alan Grimes  wrote:
> I take great offence to anyone who tells me that it's MY fault. =|
>

It might not be your fault but what you are asking for is legitimately
a lot of work. I know, I've done it. I gave up and just run the games
on Ubuntu in a VM, or save that, in Windows.

Re: [gentoo-user] =|

[mad.scientist.at.large]

PEBKAC!  Problem Exist Between Keyboard And Chair.

"We kill when we close our eyes to poverty, affliction or infamy. We kill when, 
because it is easier, we countenance or pretend to approve of atrophied social, 
political, educational and religious institutions instead of resolutely 
combating them."
- Hesse

29. Jul 2018 14:41 by alonz...@verizon.net :


> Look, this system was installed when I went 64 bit back in 2010...
>
> I put a great deal more work than I should into keeping it running.
>
> I use Eclean-dist every time to purge dead packages. I've learned that
> this is a very important step, often more important than the actual
> update step...
>
>

Snip. 

Re: [gentoo-user] =|

[mad.scientist.at.large]

Here is the original post, my email provider was kind enough to put it in my 
spam folder.  i've included the address info etc., please forgive my iffy email 
provider (iffy for features, otherwise solid).

/Begin original post



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Re: [gentoo-user] =|

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 16:41:43 -0400, Alan Grimes wrote:
>
>> I take great offence to anyone who tells me that it's MY fault. =|
> For someone that spews out such hateful and ungrateful diatribes, you
> seem awfully sensitive to the mildest of criticism passing in the other
> direction.
>
> BTW eclean-dist simply remove old tarballs from $DISTDIR, it has no
> effect on the running system.
>
>

Exactly.  When I read that about cleaning dist files, I was like, WHAT? 
If a person has plenty of disk space, they could run their system,
update it every day if they felt like it and it not affect a single
thing, other than disk space.  Having the source tarballs around can
actually be a good thing if one has a slower internet connection.  Heck,
I forget to clean mine until my disk space starts getting low on that
partition. Try as I might, I forget to clean them out and it doesn't
break anything.  Running --depclean is a good idea.  That does clean out
some cruft.  I don't think I've ever had it break anything but no need
having it around to manage either. 

I have to ask.  I'm not seeing the original posts from this one.  Is
this that Alan, not the smart and intelligent Alan but the other Alan,
that had that nifty script that did the stupidest stuff and then went on
to blame Gentoo for what his script did?  I think, after a ton of
patience, I blocked that guy.  That would explain why I'm not seeing the
original posts. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] =|

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 16:41:43 -0400, Alan Grimes wrote:

> I take great offence to anyone who tells me that it's MY fault. =|

For someone that spews out such hateful and ungrateful diatribes, you
seem awfully sensitive to the mildest of criticism passing in the other
direction.

BTW eclean-dist simply remove old tarballs from $DISTDIR, it has no
effect on the running system.


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Re: [gentoo-user] =|

[Daniel Salas Rodriguez]

It is your fault. EOT


On 7/29/2018 1:41 PM, Alan Grimes wrote:
> Look, this system was installed when I went 64 bit back in 2010...
>
> I put a great deal more work than I should into keeping it running.
>
> I use Eclean-dist every time to purge dead packages. I've learned that
> this is a very important step, often more important than the actual
> update step...
>
> I just went through my use flags and removed about a dozen of them that
> have since been deprecated...
>
> My package.mask and package.use are both very minimal. I run
> emptytree-world on every significant compiler upgrade.
>
> I'm running an emptytree world today because the system has been through
> a lot of torture over the past week.
>
> If there is anything "janky" or hacky in my setup it's for exactly one
> reason: It was the first solution I found to a real actual problem I was
> dealing with at the time after up to two weeks of desperately searching.
> I take great offence to anyone who tells me that it's MY fault. =|
>
>
>



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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox crashes on some www-pages on a newer Gentoo system

[gevisz]

2018-07-28 15:24 GMT+03:00 gevisz :
> 2018-07-27 23:02 GMT+03:00 Mick :
>> On Friday, 27 July 2018 19:49:45 BST gevisz wrote:
>>> 2018-07-27 18:29 GMT+03:00 Mick :
>>> > On Friday, 27 July 2018 14:00:43 BST gevisz wrote:
>>> >> 2018-07-27 15:44 GMT+03:00 gevisz :
>>> >> > Updating world without global -pam, -polkit and -consolekit use flags
>>> >> > in /etc/portage/make.conf have not changed the behaviour of Fireforx
>>> >> > described above: it is still cannot display the page
>>> >> > https://www.privat24.ua/ and shows "Gah. Your tab just crashed."
>>> >> > message.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > So, I will probably revert changes tomorrow.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Playing with strace has been put on todo list.
>>> >>
>>> >> Last lines of the log file after runnig the following command
>>> >>
>>> >> $ strace -o strace.log qupzilla https://www.privat24.ua/
>>> >> QupZilla: 0 extensions loaded
>>> >> [15707:15725:0727/155144.939329:ERROR:nss_util.cc(808)] After loading
>>> >> Root Certs, loaded==false: NSS error code: -8018
>>> >> [15707:15719:0727/155145.900259:ERROR:nss_ocsp.cc(591)] No
>>> >> URLRequestContext for NSS HTTP handler. host: ocsp.digicert.com
>>> >
>>> > Mozilla is using libnss to check the validity of the website certificate
>>> > with the OCSP of the CA issuer of the certificate (digicert.com).  For
>>> > some reason it seems the connection is interrupted.  See lines 605 to 621
>>> > here:
>>> >
>>> > https://code.woboq.org/qt5/qtwebengine/src/3rdparty/chromium/net/cert_net/
>>> > nss_ocsp.cc.html
>>> >
>>> > The connection may be interrupted because the browser/tab crashes (see
>>> > below).>
>>> >> r300 FP: Compiler Error:
>>> >> /var/tmp/portage/media-libs/mesa-17.3.9/work/mesa-17.3.9/src/gallium/driv
>>> >> ers /r300/compiler/r300_fragprog_emit.c::translate_rgb_opcode():
>>> >> translate_rgb_opcode: Unknown opcode DDY
>>> >> Using a dummy shader instead.
>>> >> QupZilla: Crashed :( Saving backtrace in
>>> >> /home/gevis/.config/qupzilla/crashlog ...
>>> >> Backtrace successfully saved in
>>> >> /home/gevis/.config/qupzilla/crashlog/Crash-2018-07-27T15:51:49.txt
>>> >> zsh: abort  strace -o strace.log qupzilla https://www.privat24.ua/
>>> >>
>>> >> are the following:
>>> >>
>>> >> clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=1167, tv_nsec=68524671}) = 0
>>> >> ioctl(8, DRM_IOCTL_RADEON_GEM_MMAP, 0x7ffd31773280) = 0
>>> >> mmap(NULL, 6868992, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, 8, 0x107616000)
>>> >> = 0x7f22f565
>>> >> +++ killed by SIGABRT +++
>>> >
>>> > This looks like a radeon video driver problem.  You could go into a loop
>>> > of
>>> > rebuilding xorg, mesa, dev-libs/nss, what-ever and see if things improve,
>>> > or you could wait for/keyword later versions of these packages.
>>>
>>> Thank you for the tip. In this case, I should first try reconfigure the
>>> kernel.
>>> > Alternatively, you could try reporting this to the application devs and
>>> > see
>>> > what they say.
>>>
>>> Do you mean developpers of FF/QZ?
>>
>> Yes, although unless this is a known bug they may point you to the devs of 
>> the
>> radeon drivers.  I've been around this loop a couple of times (sigh ...)
>
> Ok. Thank you.
>
> It even more strengthens my impression than I should first
> play with reconfiguring the kernel.

I have loaded the new Gentoo system using the kernel from the old one
with no change in Firefox behaviour on https://www.privat24.ua/#login
page: it crashed as was described before.

So, playing with the kernel configuration will not help. :(

[gentoo-user] =|

[Alan Grimes]

Look, this system was installed when I went 64 bit back in 2010...

I put a great deal more work than I should into keeping it running.

I use Eclean-dist every time to purge dead packages. I've learned that
this is a very important step, often more important than the actual
update step...

I just went through my use flags and removed about a dozen of them that
have since been deprecated...

My package.mask and package.use are both very minimal. I run
emptytree-world on every significant compiler upgrade.

I'm running an emptytree world today because the system has been through
a lot of torture over the past week.

If there is anything "janky" or hacky in my setup it's for exactly one
reason: It was the first solution I found to a real actual problem I was
dealing with at the time after up to two weeks of desperately searching.
I take great offence to anyone who tells me that it's MY fault. =|



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Re: [gentoo-user] Steam is still BROKEN

[Davyd McColl]

On July 29, 2018 19:43:06 Alan Grimes  wrote:


Daniel Salas Rodriguez wrote:

On 07/29/2018 09:34 AM, Alan Grimes wrote:

James Stevenson wrote:

I've migrated all of my gaming over to GOG. I kept some of the x86_32
libraries from ~/.local/share/steam incase I need to add them to the
library path for launching some games but otherwise I've removed steam
from my PC. I've also set my video drivers to 32b in my package.use
but that's my whole setup.

I had been operating under the assumption that my windows machine was
the unstable platform and was preferentially selecting games that I
could run on Linux

Why would you assume that WIndows is the unstable one when every game is
built with Windows as the first class citizen? Even if you are changing
it every day it should be way better than running in Linux.


I believed the lies about open source and linux etc, even despite my
lived experience... Mostly because I hate Micro$oft to death...

=\


IMO, that's a rather myopic reason to select an operating system. An OS, 
like any other piece of software, is a tool for a task. You select the 
one(s) which allow you to accomplish what you want to on the hardware you have.




What in god's name are the linux ppl trying to build here?!?!?!

It's certainly not a stable, usable, and reliable operating system...



Funny you should say that. A Linux machine has been my primary personal 
desktop for around 18 years now. Most of that has been on Debian or some 
derivative, but part of what I want from the tool at hand is that it does 
what I want - so I had the freedom to switch to Gentoo and ditch PulseAudio 
and systemd, the two flies in my otherwise functional ointment. I've only 
been here for a little over a year, but I'm incredibly grateful for the 
hard work and the helpful people. Perhaps you should look up that word: 
gratitude. Remember that all of this costs you nothing and costs others one 
of the only two resources we genuinely have (time, the other being our 
physical being) for which they recieve no extrinsic reward. And perhaps you 
should exercise your freedom to select another operating system.


And I'm running KDE and steam without issue, ignoring nvidia driver bugs 
wrt Vulkan, affecting exactly one game I have. But I'm not here to bore you 
all with my thoughts on nvidia and their non-alliance with the Linux community.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Steam is still BROKEN

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 19:04:41 +0100, Mick wrote:

> > What in god's name are the linux ppl trying to build here?!?!?!
> > 
> > It's certainly not a stable, usable, and reliable operating
> > system...  

It's also not compulsory.
 
> My systems are just so.
> 
> But I don't run ~arch ...  ;-)

I do, without these problems. But then i don't run horrible update
scripts that everyone has said are likely to result in breakage, just so
I can rant about the breakage.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Steam is still BROKEN

[Mick]

On Sunday, 29 July 2018 18:42:18 BST Alan Grimes wrote:
> Daniel Salas Rodriguez wrote:
> > On 07/29/2018 09:34 AM, Alan Grimes wrote:
> >> James Stevenson wrote:
> >>> I've migrated all of my gaming over to GOG. I kept some of the x86_32
> >>> libraries from ~/.local/share/steam incase I need to add them to the
> >>> library path for launching some games but otherwise I've removed steam
> >>> from my PC. I've also set my video drivers to 32b in my package.use
> >>> but that's my whole setup.
> >> 
> >> I had been operating under the assumption that my windows machine was
> >> the unstable platform and was preferentially selecting games that I
> >> could run on Linux
> > 
> > Why would you assume that WIndows is the unstable one when every game is
> > built with Windows as the first class citizen? Even if you are changing
> > it every day it should be way better than running in Linux.
> 
> I believed the lies about open source and linux etc, even despite my
> lived experience... Mostly because I hate Micro$oft to death...
> 
> =\
> 
> What in god's name are the linux ppl trying to build here?!?!?!
> 
> It's certainly not a stable, usable, and reliable operating system...

My systems are just so.

But I don't run ~arch ...  ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Steam is still BROKEN

[Alan Grimes]

Daniel Salas Rodriguez wrote:
> On 07/29/2018 09:34 AM, Alan Grimes wrote:
>> James Stevenson wrote:
>>> I've migrated all of my gaming over to GOG. I kept some of the x86_32
>>> libraries from ~/.local/share/steam incase I need to add them to the
>>> library path for launching some games but otherwise I've removed steam
>>> from my PC. I've also set my video drivers to 32b in my package.use
>>> but that's my whole setup.
>> I had been operating under the assumption that my windows machine was
>> the unstable platform and was preferentially selecting games that I
>> could run on Linux
> Why would you assume that WIndows is the unstable one when every game is
> built with Windows as the first class citizen? Even if you are changing
> it every day it should be way better than running in Linux.

I believed the lies about open source and linux etc, even despite my
lived experience... Mostly because I hate Micro$oft to death...

=\

What in god's name are the linux ppl trying to build here?!?!?!

It's certainly not a stable, usable, and reliable operating system...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Steam is still BROKEN

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 12:34:10 -0400, Alan Grimes wrote:

> And for the love of god, can someone PLEASE fix libcdio!!

> ../../../libcdio-2.0.0/lib/driver/utf8.c:350:3: error: #error "The iconv
> library is needed to build drivers, but it is not detected"
>  # error "The iconv library is needed to build drivers, but it is not
> detected"
>    ^

Perhaps if you were to file a bug report about the missing dependency
instead of spewing vitriol in the *users* mailing list, you may get your
wish. And we may get some respite from your tantrums.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Steam is still BROKEN

[Mike Gilbert]

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 12:42 PM Daniel Salas Rodriguez
 wrote:
> Seems your iconv library is broken or just not there. Have you tried
> re-emerging it and then retrying?
>
> # emerge -v1 libiconv

On Linux, iconv is built into glibc. libiconv is only necessary if you
are using a different C library or different OS (like FreeBSD).

I assume Alan has done something weird that broke glibc in some funny
way. However, I would not bother trying to help him given his horrible
attitude.

Re: [gentoo-user] Steam is still BROKEN

[Daniel Salas Rodriguez]

On 07/29/2018 09:34 AM, Alan Grimes wrote:
> James Stevenson wrote:
>> I've migrated all of my gaming over to GOG. I kept some of the x86_32
>> libraries from ~/.local/share/steam incase I need to add them to the
>> library path for launching some games but otherwise I've removed steam
>> from my PC. I've also set my video drivers to 32b in my package.use
>> but that's my whole setup.
> I had been operating under the assumption that my windows machine was
> the unstable platform and was preferentially selecting games that I
> could run on Linux
Why would you assume that WIndows is the unstable one when every game is
built with Windows as the first class citizen? Even if you are changing
it every day it should be way better than running in Linux.
> atg@tortoise ~/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common $ ls -l
> total 168
> drwxrwxrwx  8 atg atg 4096 Jul  5 15:47 'Castle Story'
> drwxrwxrwx  8 atg atg 4096 Jul  9 00:56  Cities_Skylines
> drwxrwxrwx  3 atg atg 4096 Jun 20  2017  ConSim2015
> drwxrwxrwx  8 atg atg 4096 Jun 20  2017 'Counter-Strike Source'
> drwxrwxrwx  5 atg atg 4096 Dec 25  2015  Cradle
> drwxrwxrwx  4 atg atg 4096 May 29 22:14 'Creeper World 3'
> drwxrwxrwx 22 atg atg 4096 Jul 19 23:12 'Crusader Kings II'
> drwxrwxrwx  9 atg atg 4096 Jan 31  2017 'Democracy 3'
> drwxrwxrwx  7 atg atg 4096 Jul 21 10:37 'dota 2 beta'
> drwxrwxrwx  5 atg atg 4096 Jul 12 00:14 'Euro Truck Simulator 2'
> drwxrwxrwx  7 atg atg 4096 Jul 19 23:12  Factorio
> drwxrwxrwx  6 atg atg 4096 Jul 19 23:12  FEZ
> drwxrwxrwx  3 atg atg 4096 Dec 29  2017 'Full Throttle Remastered'
> drwxrwxrwx  9 atg atg 4096 May 29 11:14  GarrysMod
> drwxrwxrwx  6 atg atg 4096 Apr 21  2014  GarrysModDS
> drwxrwxrwx  6 atg atg 4096 Sep  8  2016 'Human Resource Machine'
> drwxrwxrwx  8 atg atg 4096 Sep 30  2016  KentuckyRouteZero
> drwxrwxrwx 20 atg atg 4096 Jul 28 21:07 'Kerbal Space Program'
> drwxrwxrwx  7 atg atg 4096 Oct 26  2015  LongLiveTheQueen
> drwxrwxrwx  7 atg atg 4096 Nov  4  2016 'Master of Orion 1'
> drwxrwxrwx  9 atg atg 4096 Nov  1  2016 'Master of Orion 2'
> drwxrwxrwx  6 atg atg 4096 Feb 16  2013  Osmos
> drwxrwxrwx 16 atg atg 4096 Jul  2 22:23 'Planet Explorers'
> drwxrwxrwx  3 atg atg 4096 Dec  6  2017 'Poly Bridge'
> drwxrwxrwx 10 atg atg 4096 Jul 17 12:19  Portal
> drwxrwxrwx 11 atg atg 4096 Jul  9 00:55 'Portal 2'
> drwxrwxrwx  3 atg atg 4096 Jun 29 21:22  Revhead
> drwxrwxrwx  7 atg atg 4096 Jul 19 23:12 'Rise of the Tomb Raider'
> drwxrwxrwx  8 atg atg 4096 Jul 20 20:07  ShadowOfMordor
> drwxrwxrwx  7 atg atg 4096 Jun 24 14:56 'SHENZHEN IO'
> drwxrwxrwx  4 atg atg 4096 Jul  3 12:47 "Sid Meier's Civilization Beyond
> Earth"
> drwxrwxrwx  5 atg atg 4096 Jul 19 23:12 "Sid Meier's Civilization V"
> drwxrwxrwx  6 atg atg 4096 Oct  4  2013 'Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer'
> drwxrwxrwx  6 atg atg 4096 Aug 10  2014 'Source SDK Base 2013 Singleplayer'
> drwxrwxrwx  5 atg atg 4096 Oct  3  2014  SteamVR
> drwxrwxrwx  8 atg atg 4096 Oct 24  2016 'Team Fortress 2'
> drwxrwxrwx  7 atg atg 4096 Jul  9 00:56 'The Talos Principle'
> drwxrwxrwx  6 atg atg 4096 Jul  9 00:56 'the witcher 2'
> drwxrwxrwx  4 atg atg 4096 Jun 26 13:26  TIS-100
> drwxrwxrwx  4 atg atg 4096 Jul 21 06:52 'Universe Sandbox 2'
> atg@tortoise ~/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common $
>
>
> And for the love of god, can someone PLEASE fix libcdio!!
>
>
> /bin/sh ../../libtool  --tag=CC   --mode=compile x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
> -m32 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../../libcdio-2.0.0/lib/driver -I../.. 
> -I../../../libcdio-2.0.0/lib/driver -I../../include
> -I../../../libcdio-2.0.0/include/   -march=native -pipe -O3   -Wall
> -Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts
> -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wdisabled-optimization -Wendif-labels
> -Winline -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs
> -Wno-sign-compare -Wpointer-arith -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Wundef
> -Wunused -Wwrite-strings -c -o FreeBSD/freebsd_cam.lo
> ../../../libcdio-2.0.0/lib/driver/FreeBSD/freebsd_cam.c
> libtool: compile:  x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -m32 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.
> -I../../../libcdio-2.0.0/lib/driver -I../..
> -I../../../libcdio-2.0.0/lib/driver -I../../include
> -I../../../libcdio-2.0.0/include/ -march=native -pipe -O3 -Wall
> -Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts
> -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wdisabled-optimization -Wendif-labels
> -Winline -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs
> -Wno-sign-compare -Wpointer-arith -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Wundef
> -Wunused -Wwrite-strings -c ../../../libcdio-2.0.0/lib/driver/util.c 
> -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/util.o
> libtool: compile:  x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -m32 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.
> -I../../../libcdio-2.0.0/lib/driver -I../..
> -I../../../libcdio-2.0.0/lib/driver -I../../include
> -I../../../libcdio-2.0.0/include/ -march=native -pipe -O3 -Wall
> -Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts
> -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wdisabled-optimization -Wendif-labels
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] Steam is still BROKEN

[Alan Grimes]

James Stevenson wrote:
> I've migrated all of my gaming over to GOG. I kept some of the x86_32
> libraries from ~/.local/share/steam incase I need to add them to the
> library path for launching some games but otherwise I've removed steam
> from my PC. I've also set my video drivers to 32b in my package.use
> but that's my whole setup.

I had been operating under the assumption that my windows machine was
the unstable platform and was preferentially selecting games that I
could run on Linux

atg@tortoise ~/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common $ ls -l
total 168
drwxrwxrwx  8 atg atg 4096 Jul  5 15:47 'Castle Story'
drwxrwxrwx  8 atg atg 4096 Jul  9 00:56  Cities_Skylines
drwxrwxrwx  3 atg atg 4096 Jun 20  2017  ConSim2015
drwxrwxrwx  8 atg atg 4096 Jun 20  2017 'Counter-Strike Source'
drwxrwxrwx  5 atg atg 4096 Dec 25  2015  Cradle
drwxrwxrwx  4 atg atg 4096 May 29 22:14 'Creeper World 3'
drwxrwxrwx 22 atg atg 4096 Jul 19 23:12 'Crusader Kings II'
drwxrwxrwx  9 atg atg 4096 Jan 31  2017 'Democracy 3'
drwxrwxrwx  7 atg atg 4096 Jul 21 10:37 'dota 2 beta'
drwxrwxrwx  5 atg atg 4096 Jul 12 00:14 'Euro Truck Simulator 2'
drwxrwxrwx  7 atg atg 4096 Jul 19 23:12  Factorio
drwxrwxrwx  6 atg atg 4096 Jul 19 23:12  FEZ
drwxrwxrwx  3 atg atg 4096 Dec 29  2017 'Full Throttle Remastered'
drwxrwxrwx  9 atg atg 4096 May 29 11:14  GarrysMod
drwxrwxrwx  6 atg atg 4096 Apr 21  2014  GarrysModDS
drwxrwxrwx  6 atg atg 4096 Sep  8  2016 'Human Resource Machine'
drwxrwxrwx  8 atg atg 4096 Sep 30  2016  KentuckyRouteZero
drwxrwxrwx 20 atg atg 4096 Jul 28 21:07 'Kerbal Space Program'
drwxrwxrwx  7 atg atg 4096 Oct 26  2015  LongLiveTheQueen
drwxrwxrwx  7 atg atg 4096 Nov  4  2016 'Master of Orion 1'
drwxrwxrwx  9 atg atg 4096 Nov  1  2016 'Master of Orion 2'
drwxrwxrwx  6 atg atg 4096 Feb 16  2013  Osmos
drwxrwxrwx 16 atg atg 4096 Jul  2 22:23 'Planet Explorers'
drwxrwxrwx  3 atg atg 4096 Dec  6  2017 'Poly Bridge'
drwxrwxrwx 10 atg atg 4096 Jul 17 12:19  Portal
drwxrwxrwx 11 atg atg 4096 Jul  9 00:55 'Portal 2'
drwxrwxrwx  3 atg atg 4096 Jun 29 21:22  Revhead
drwxrwxrwx  7 atg atg 4096 Jul 19 23:12 'Rise of the Tomb Raider'
drwxrwxrwx  8 atg atg 4096 Jul 20 20:07  ShadowOfMordor
drwxrwxrwx  7 atg atg 4096 Jun 24 14:56 'SHENZHEN IO'
drwxrwxrwx  4 atg atg 4096 Jul  3 12:47 "Sid Meier's Civilization Beyond
Earth"
drwxrwxrwx  5 atg atg 4096 Jul 19 23:12 "Sid Meier's Civilization V"
drwxrwxrwx  6 atg atg 4096 Oct  4  2013 'Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer'
drwxrwxrwx  6 atg atg 4096 Aug 10  2014 'Source SDK Base 2013 Singleplayer'
drwxrwxrwx  5 atg atg 4096 Oct  3  2014  SteamVR
drwxrwxrwx  8 atg atg 4096 Oct 24  2016 'Team Fortress 2'
drwxrwxrwx  7 atg atg 4096 Jul  9 00:56 'The Talos Principle'
drwxrwxrwx  6 atg atg 4096 Jul  9 00:56 'the witcher 2'
drwxrwxrwx  4 atg atg 4096 Jun 26 13:26  TIS-100
drwxrwxrwx  4 atg atg 4096 Jul 21 06:52 'Universe Sandbox 2'
atg@tortoise ~/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common $


And for the love of god, can someone PLEASE fix libcdio!!


/bin/sh ../../libtool  --tag=CC   --mode=compile x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
-m32 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../../libcdio-2.0.0/lib/driver -I../.. 
-I../../../libcdio-2.0.0/lib/driver -I../../include
-I../../../libcdio-2.0.0/include/   -march=native -pipe -O3   -Wall
-Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts
-Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wdisabled-optimization -Wendif-labels
-Winline -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs
-Wno-sign-compare -Wpointer-arith -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Wundef
-Wunused -Wwrite-strings -c -o FreeBSD/freebsd_cam.lo
../../../libcdio-2.0.0/lib/driver/FreeBSD/freebsd_cam.c
libtool: compile:  x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -m32 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.
-I../../../libcdio-2.0.0/lib/driver -I../..
-I../../../libcdio-2.0.0/lib/driver -I../../include
-I../../../libcdio-2.0.0/include/ -march=native -pipe -O3 -Wall
-Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts
-Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wdisabled-optimization -Wendif-labels
-Winline -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs
-Wno-sign-compare -Wpointer-arith -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Wundef
-Wunused -Wwrite-strings -c ../../../libcdio-2.0.0/lib/driver/util.c 
-fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/util.o
libtool: compile:  x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -m32 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.
-I../../../libcdio-2.0.0/lib/driver -I../..
-I../../../libcdio-2.0.0/lib/driver -I../../include
-I../../../libcdio-2.0.0/include/ -march=native -pipe -O3 -Wall
-Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts
-Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wdisabled-optimization -Wendif-labels
-Winline -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs
-Wno-sign-compare -Wpointer-arith -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Wundef
-Wunused -Wwrite-strings -c ../../../libcdio-2.0.0/lib/driver/utf8.c 
-fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/utf8.o
../../../libcdio-2.0.0/lib/driver/utf8.c:350:3: error: #error "The iconv
library is needed to build drivers, but it is not detected"
 # error "The iconv library is needed to 

Re: [gentoo-user] iproute2 reference

[Peter Humphrey]

On Sunday, 29 July 2018 12:17:39 BST Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 14:15:03 +0100 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Hello list,
> > 
> > I'm trying to learn how to use the "ip" command to manage routing on one
> > of my boxes, which has two Ethernet interfaces.
> > 
> > Can anyone recommend suitable reading material? I don't mind paying for
> > a
> > book, provided that it's reasonably up to date and won't bury me in a
> > morass of bit patterns, OSI transport layers and so on. Just the stuff
> > that a network admin would need.
> 
> The best howto on iproute I ever saw:
> https://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/

Thanks Andrew. I already have that one and I'm working my way through parts 
of it.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] iproute2 reference

[Andrew Savchenko]

On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 14:15:03 +0100 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> I'm trying to learn how to use the "ip" command to manage routing on one of 
> my 
> boxes, which has two Ethernet interfaces.
> 
> Can anyone recommend suitable reading material? I don't mind paying for a 
> book, provided that it's reasonably up to date and won't bury me in a morass 
> of bit patterns, OSI transport layers and so on. Just the stuff that a 
> network 
> admin would need.

The best howto on iproute I ever saw:
https://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/

Best regards,
Andrew Savchenko


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Re: [gentoo-user] Building kernel with floppy support

[Andrew Savchenko]

On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 05:01:51 -0400 Shea Alterio wrote:
> Hi everybody
> 
> I've got a mini form factor Pentium 4 I just acquired. I have a huge amount
> of floppy disks to make backup images of as well as write to new floppies.
> Yeah I know, floppies suck, but i thought i could use Gentoo on it to make
> the process less painful. This is a plain internal floppy drive so not a
> USB one.  Do you need build any packages with floppy support or just make
> sure it's in the kernel?

Just enable it in the kernel: COFNIG_BLK_DEV_FD will be sufficient
unless something rare like AMIGA/ATARI/MAC floppy is used, they
have separate config opttions.

If you want FAT tools, install sys-fs/dosfstools.

> When i was doing some googling to see if i would
> have issues trying to do floppy stuff with the latest kernels, it seemed
> like that could be a potential issue.

No, it works just fine.

> I will do my main compiling on my main PC then send it to the P4 to keep it
> from burning itself up. haha.


Best regards,
Andrew Savchenko


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Re: [gentoo-user] Steam is still BROKEN

[James Stevenson]

I've migrated all of my gaming over to GOG. I kept some of the x86_32
libraries from ~/.local/share/steam incase I need to add them to the
library path for launching some games but otherwise I've removed steam from
my PC. I've also set my video drivers to 32b in my package.use but that's
my whole setup.

James

media-libs/mesa abi_x86_32
>=dev-libs/expat-2.2.5 abi_x86_32
>=sys-libs/zlib-1.2.11-r1 abi_x86_32
>=x11-libs/libX11-1.6.5-r1 abi_x86_32
>=x11-libs/libxshmfence-1.3-r1 abi_x86_32
>=x11-libs/libXdamage-1.1.4-r2 abi_x86_32
>=x11-libs/libXext-1.3.3-r1 abi_x86_32
>=x11-libs/libxcb-1.13 abi_x86_32
>=x11-libs/libXfixes-5.0.3-r1 abi_x86_32
>=x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.91 abi_x86_32
>=sys-devel/llvm-5.0.2 abi_x86_32
>=sys-libs/ncurses-6.1-r2 abi_x86_32
>=x11-libs/libpciaccess-0.14 abi_x86_32
>=dev-libs/libpthread-stubs-0.4 abi_x86_32
>=x11-libs/libXau-1.0.8-r1 abi_x86_32
>=x11-libs/libXdmcp-1.1.2-r2 abi_x86_32
>=x11-base/xcb-proto-1.13 abi_x86_32
>=virtual/libffi-3.0.13-r1 abi_x86_32
>=x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.1.4-r1 abi_x86_32
>=dev-libs/libffi-3.2.1 abi_x86_32


On Sun, Jul 29, 2018, 3:22 AM R0b0t1  wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 8:33 PM, Alan Grimes  wrote:
> > A picture is beginning to emerge, after the reboot..
> >
> >
> > It did not give a usable error message so I had panicked and probably
> > cleaned more than I should have... 73% chance the underlying issue was a
> > graphics driver version bump that SHOULD have been clearly reported, but
> > wasn't, the remaining chance being something else that had become
> > incompatible while I was trying to update this junk. =\
> >
> > There was a library that I had to downgrade to version 1.8, from 2.x,
> > that cleared an error, so it tried to load,
> >
> >
> > Now it gets stuck eternally on "Connecting Steam Account: [...]"
> >
> > The logs are split among about 10^3 (rough estimate) different files,
> > all of which are extremely boring...
> >
>
> Can you not run Steam in a VM or container? Distributed binaries on
> Linux being pinned to old library versions has always been an issue.
> There was a period of time roughly 1.5yr ago where people were
> claiming Valve/Steam/developers had learned better (I attribute this
> instead to Ubuntu starting to maintain more recent libraries) but it
> seems like everything is broken again.
>
> It looks like the errors you posted are exactly this issue, and this
> is the one way to fix it forever. In my case I wouldn't trust Steam on
> my main system anyway and would have to run it in a VM.
>
> Cheers,
>  R0b0t1
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] is anyone using Nouveau graphics driver ?

[Andrew Savchenko]

On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:28:08 +0200 Davyd McColl wrote:
> Thanks for taking the time to reply, Dr Valdés.
> 
> Unfortunately, I would like to game now and then

Whether nouveau is usable for games depends on a) game, b) your
card, see [1] for a reference. For recent chip generations all 3D
features are implemented, looks like the most troublesome part is
power management.

Usually you'll have lower FPS is nouveau compared to nvidia driver,
but if your game is not top notch, it should be playable.

[1] https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix/

Best regards,
Andrew Savchenko


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Re: [gentoo-user] is anyone using Nouveau graphics driver ?

[Andrew Savchenko]

On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 06:17:40 -0400 Philip Webb wrote:
> (1) What are people's experiences with Nouveau ?
> -- does it work easily with various kernels ?

Yes.

> -- does it manage graphics stably & reliably ?

Depends on your setup. For single monitor mode it is definitely
yes. For multiple monitors in Xinerama mode it is usually yes. For
multiple monitors with multiple X screens mode it is no (segfault),
upstream right now is aware of the problem[1].

> -- I don't do much with video (a few newsreels) & don't use sound.
> 
> (2) If I install it, how do I switch between Nouveau & Nvidia ?

1. You'll have two different Xorg configurations for nvidia and
nouveau (at least in Driver option in Section "Device" at its
settings). I usually switch between them using symlink.

2. eselect opengl set xorg-x11 | nvidia

3. I have to switch KMS on for nouveau and off for nvidia (to have
normal VGA console): nomodeset vga=normal (for nvidia).

> (3) Sadly, I didn't make a Quickpkg of the Nvidia version I was using
> when my scanner was working with Gentoo (last time 180626).
> I have the distfiles, but not the ebuilds :
> is there anywhere I can find ebuilds for Nvidia-Drivers 390.42 390.48 ?

Why you don't want to use the latest 390.77 (or 390.67) for stable?

[1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106772

Best regards,
Andrew Savchenko


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