[gentoo-user] WARNING: Do not update your system on ~amd64

2020-06-16 Thread Andreas Fink
Hello, I've noticed a problem with the current PAM update to sys-libs/pam-1.4.0. The update adds passwdqc USE to sys-auth/pambase, which pulls in sys-auth/passwdqc. However sys-auth/passwdqc fails to build on my system, and leaves me with an installed sys-libs/pam-1.4.0 which is broken and does

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox in headless configuration broken after update: delayed echo [ RESOLVED, kinda ]

2020-06-16 Thread n952162
On 06/17/20 06:48, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 11:08:23 PM CEST n952162 wrote: On 06/16/20 22:36, J. Roeleveld wrote: Are these Virtualbox VMs critical? If yes, I would suggest migrating them to a more reliable virtualisation technology. I do not consider Virtualbox

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox in headless configuration broken after update: delayed echo [ RESOLVED, kinda ]

2020-06-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 11:08:23 PM CEST n952162 wrote: > On 06/16/20 22:36, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On 16 June 2020 21:07:56 CEST, n952162 wrote: > >> On 06/10/20 15:19, n952162 wrote: > >>> I updated my system and now characters typed into vbox over ssh are > >>> not echo-ed until *after* a

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing a used hard drive to make SURE it is good.

2020-06-16 Thread Dale
antlists wrote: > On 16/06/2020 12:26, Dale wrote: >> I've also read about the resilvering problems too.  I think LVM >> snapshots and something about BTFS(sp?) has problems.  I've also read >> that on windoze, it can cause a system to freeze while it is trying >> to rewrite the moved data too. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing a used hard drive to make SURE it is good.

2020-06-16 Thread antlists
On 16/06/2020 13:25, Rich Freeman wrote: And of course the problem with these latest hidden SMR drives is that they generally don't support TRIM, This, I believe, is a problem with the ATA spec. I don't understand what's going on, but something like for these drives you need v4 of the spec,

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing a used hard drive to make SURE it is good.

2020-06-16 Thread antlists
On 16/06/2020 12:26, Dale wrote: I've also read about the resilvering problems too.  I think LVM snapshots and something about BTFS(sp?) has problems.  I've also read that on windoze, it can cause a system to freeze while it is trying to rewrite the moved data too.  It gets so slow, it

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox in headless configuration broken after update: delayed echo [ RESOLVED, kinda ]

2020-06-16 Thread n952162
On 06/16/20 22:36, J. Roeleveld wrote: On 16 June 2020 21:07:56 CEST, n952162 wrote: On 06/10/20 15:19, n952162 wrote: I updated my system and now characters typed into vbox over ssh are not echo-ed until *after* a CR is entered. I diffed the stty output, to see if I could spot anything:

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox in headless configuration broken after update: delayed echo [ RESOLVED, kinda ]

2020-06-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 16 June 2020 21:07:56 CEST, n952162 wrote: >On 06/10/20 15:19, n952162 wrote: >> >> I updated my system and now characters typed into vbox over ssh are >> not echo-ed until *after* a CR is entered. >> >> I diffed the stty output, to see if I could spot anything: >> >> 10~>cat /tmp/sttydiff >>

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox in headless configuration broken after update: delayed echo [ RESOLVED, kinda ]

2020-06-16 Thread n952162
On 06/10/20 15:19, n952162 wrote: I updated my system and now characters typed into vbox over ssh are not echo-ed until *after* a CR is entered. I diffed the stty output, to see if I could spot anything: 10~>cat /tmp/sttydiff 2,3c2,3 <  rows 37 <  columns 100 --- >  rows 44 >  columns 88

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -u fails with "OSError: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory"

2020-06-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 16 June 2020 20:31:56 CEST, n952162 wrote: >Admonished to get everything updated, I turned to my raspberry pi with >Sakaki's binary image.  Synced and updated portage with no problem.  >Then I did an emerge -u @world and got (after *hours* of dependency >checking): > > >>> Jobs: 0 of 206

Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

2020-06-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 13:52:52 +0200, Wynn Wolf Arbor wrote: > > So I created a ~/.cache/bwtmp directory and passed TMPDIR= to > > bitwarden, but then it threw another error. I'd better take this up > > with BitWarden. > > I just tried getting it to work again. If this is anything like on my >

Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

2020-06-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 16 June 2020 12:52:52 BST Wynn Wolf Arbor wrote: > On 2020-06-16 12:05, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > So I created a ~/.cache/bwtmp directory and passed TMPDIR= to > > bitwarden, but then it threw another error. I'd better take this up > > with BitWarden. > > I just tried getting it to

Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

2020-06-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 16 June 2020 12:40:35 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:05:33 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > It turns out that BitWarden requires execution of a program in /tmp. > > They said to make sure /tmp wasn't mounted noexec! > > > > So I created a ~/.cache/bwtmp directory

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing a used hard drive to make SURE it is good.

2020-06-16 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 16 June 2020 12:26:01 BST Dale wrote: > >> From what I've read, I agree. Basically, as some have posted in >> different places, SMR drives are good when writing once and leaving it >> alone. Basically, about like a DVD-R. From what I've read, let's say I >> moved a

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing a used hard drive to make SURE it is good.

2020-06-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:36 AM Michael wrote: > > Just to add my 2c's before you throw that SMR away, the use case for these > drives is to act as disk archives, rather than regular backups. You write > data you want to keep, once. If your write pattern is more like a tape SMR should be ok in

Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

2020-06-16 Thread Wynn Wolf Arbor
On 2020-06-16 12:05, Peter Humphrey wrote: > So I created a ~/.cache/bwtmp directory and passed TMPDIR= to > bitwarden, but then it threw another error. I'd better take this up > with BitWarden. I just tried getting it to work again. If this is anything like on my system, once the noexec problem

Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

2020-06-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:05:33 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > It turns out that BitWarden requires execution of a program in /tmp. > They said to make sure /tmp wasn't mounted noexec! > > So I created a ~/.cache/bwtmp directory and passed TMPDIR= to > bitwarden, but then it threw another error.

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing a used hard drive to make SURE it is good.

2020-06-16 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 16 June 2020 12:26:01 BST Dale wrote: > Wols Lists wrote: > > On 16/06/20 10:04, Dale wrote: > >> I might add, I don't have LVM on that drive. I read it does not work > >> well with LVM, RAID etc as you say. Most likely, that drive will always > >> be a external drive for backups or

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing a used hard drive to make SURE it is good.

2020-06-16 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 16/06/20 10:04, Dale wrote: >> I might add, I don't have LVM on that drive. I read it does not work >> well with LVM, RAID etc as you say. Most likely, that drive will always >> be a external drive for backups or something. If it ever finds itself >> on the OS or /home,

Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

2020-06-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 16 June 2020 09:43:15 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 00:42:50 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > So it can work, then. I just have to work out what I'm doing wrong. > > > > I have a support request in with them; no reply yet. > > > > > > Do other AppImages work on

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing a used hard drive to make SURE it is good.

2020-06-16 Thread Wols Lists
On 16/06/20 10:04, Dale wrote: > I might add, I don't have LVM on that drive. I read it does not work > well with LVM, RAID etc as you say. Most likely, that drive will always > be a external drive for backups or something. If it ever finds itself > on the OS or /home, it'll be a last resort.

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing a used hard drive to make SURE it is good.

2020-06-16 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 16/06/20 08:34, Dale wrote: >> Right now, I'm backing up to a 8TB external drive, sadly it is a SMR >> drive but it works. As I go along, I'll be breaking down my backups. >> Example. I may have my Documents directory, which includes my camera >> pics, backed up to one

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing a used hard drive to make SURE it is good.

2020-06-16 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 02:34:55 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> Even if I build a NAS setup, I still need a backup arrangement.  Even if >> I have a RAID setup, still need backups.  It gets complicated for sure.  >> Sort of expensive too.  Just imagine if my DSL was 10 times faster. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

2020-06-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 00:42:50 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > So it can work, then. I just have to work out what I'm doing wrong. > > > I have a support request in with them; no reply yet. > > > > Do other AppImages work on your computer? > > This is the first one I've tried. Do you

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing a used hard drive to make SURE it is good.

2020-06-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 02:34:55 -0500, Dale wrote: > Even if I build a NAS setup, I still need a backup arrangement.  Even if > I have a RAID setup, still need backups.  It gets complicated for sure.  > Sort of expensive too.  Just imagine if my DSL was 10 times faster.  > O_O  I'd need to order

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing a used hard drive to make SURE it is good.

2020-06-16 Thread Wols Lists
On 16/06/20 08:34, Dale wrote: > Right now, I'm backing up to a 8TB external drive, sadly it is a SMR > drive but it works. As I go along, I'll be breaking down my backups. > Example. I may have my Documents directory, which includes my camera > pics, backed up to one drive. I may have videos

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing a used hard drive to make SURE it is good.

2020-06-16 Thread Dale
William Kenworthy wrote: > > In case no one has mentioned it, check out "stress" and "stress-ng" - > they have HDD tests available. (I am going to have to look into that > --ignite-cpu option ... :) > > BillK > > I did see that mentioned somewhere but forgot about it.  Another option.  May have

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing a used hard drive to make SURE it is good.

2020-06-16 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 12:37 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > Howdy, > > > > I finally bought a 8TB drive.  It is used but they claim only a > short duration.  Still, I want to test it to be sure it is in grade A > shape before putting a lot of data

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing a used hard drive to make SURE it is good.

2020-06-16 Thread William Kenworthy
In case no one has mentioned it, check out "stress" and "stress-ng" - they have HDD tests available. (I am going to have to look into that --ignite-cpu option ... :) BillK On 16/6/20 3:17 pm, Dale wrote: > David Haller wrote: >> Hello, >> >> On Mon, 15 Jun 2020, Dale wrote: >> [..] >>> While I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing a used hard drive to make SURE it is good.

2020-06-16 Thread Dale
David Haller wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon, 15 Jun 2020, Dale wrote: > [..] >> While I'm at it, when running dd, I have zero and random in /dev.  Where >> does a person obtain a one?  In other words, I can write all zeros, I >> can write all random but I can't write all ones since it isn't in /dev. 

RE: [gentoo-user] clone root from HDD to SSD causes no video with NVIDIA driver

2020-06-16 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
> -Original Message- > From: J. Roeleveld > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 16:20 > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] clone root from HDD to SSD causes no video with > NVIDIA driver > > On Monday, June 15, 2020 9:56:39 AM CEST Raffaele BELARDI wrote: > > *