Re: [gentoo-user] Java Version

2007-08-30 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

sean escribió:

Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:

sean escribió:

Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:


The fetch restriction appears when downloading its documentation, 
not the jvm itself; if you don't have doc use flag enabled for jvm 
you won't download it, and hence, you won't experience its fetch 
restrictions.


On the other hand, which flag have you exactly enabled for getting 
java into Firefox?


Abraham



USE flag nsplugins

The instructions on Gentoo's site differ a bit from the actual results.


eselect java-nsplugin list results as below

Available 32-bit Java browser plugins
Available 64-bit Java browser plugins

No numbered options as to choose one.

I am on AMD64 and using the 64 bit version, so I figured the 64-bit 
version should support the 64 bit firefox compiled?
There are no number options because you don't seem to have any Java 
browser plugin available. This is the output I get when I run eselect 
java-nsplugin list:


Available Java browser plugins
 [1]   sun-jdk-1.5  current

Since I have sun-jdk available. Could you please run both eix ^jre$ 
and eix ^jdk$ and post the output?


Abraham


eix ^jre$
[U] virtual/jre
 Available versions:
(1.4)   1.4.1 1.4.2
(1.5)   1.5.0
(1.6)   1.6.0
 Installed versions:  1.5.0(1.5)(12:25:57 AM 08/21/2007)
 Homepage:http://java.sun.com/
 Description: Virtual for JRE

eix ^jdk$
[I] virtual/jdk
 Available versions:
(1.4)   1.4.1 1.4.2
(1.5)   1.5.0
(1.6)   ~1.6.0
 Installed versions:  1.4.2(1.4)(07:07:49 PM 08/21/2007) 
1.5.0(1.5)(12:09:34 AM 08/21/2007)

 Homepage:http://java.sun.com/
 Description: Virtual for JDK



Ok, since you have more than one JDK and JDK's can be used as JRE's you 
may have to specify which version you want your system to use. If you 
run the following command you'll know your available JVM's and also the 
one you are currently using:


java-config --list-available-vms

The one with an asterisk at the beginning will be the one you're using.

On the other hand, you should make sure whether you installed Java with 
browser-plugin capabilities. I guess you installed sun-jdk and sun-jre, 
so running this you'll have the info you need:


equery uses sun-jdk

equery uses sun-jre

equery is in gentoolkit (this time it's truly there :-P).

HTH,
Abraham



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Re: [gentoo-user] Java Version

2007-08-29 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Stroller escribió:


On 28 Aug 2007, at 07:06, Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:

...
Your eix commands do not work, but here is the output of java -version


Merge gentoolkit and repeat those commands, they are the absolute key 
;-).


eix isn't in gentoolkit.

   $ eix eix
  [I] app-portage/eix
 Available versions:  0.8.8 ~0.9.1 ~0.9.4 ~0.9.8 0.9.9 ~0.9.10 
{sqlite}

 Installed versions:  0.9.9(10:23:48 08/01/07)(-sqlite)
 Homepage:http://eix.sourceforge.net
 Description: Small utility for searching ebuilds with 
indexing for fast results

  $

`emerge eix` is how you get eix.

Stroller.



My mistake... It's such a useful tool I had associated it to standard 
Gentoo tools :-P.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Java Version

2007-08-28 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

sean escribió:

Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:

The instructions on Gentoo's site differ a bit from the actual results.


eselect java-nsplugin list results as below

Available 32-bit Java browser plugins
Available 64-bit Java browser plugins

No numbered options as to choose one.

I am on AMD64 and using the 64 bit version, so I figured the 64-bit 
version should support the 64 bit firefox compiled?
There are no number options because you don't seem to have any Java 
browser plugin available. This is the output I get when I run eselect 
java-nsplugin list:


Available Java browser plugins
 [1]   sun-jdk-1.5  current

Since I have sun-jdk available. Could you please run both eix ^jre$ 
and eix ^jdk$ and post the output?


Abraham



Hello Abraham,

Sorry for the slow reply, been away for about a week.
Anyway, I have since recalled the nspluginwrapper package since last I 
was here, so all but my java plugin appears.


Your eix commands do not work, but here is the output of java -version

Merge gentoolkit and repeat those commands, they are the absolute key ;-).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Java Version

2007-08-27 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Thufir escribió:

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:41:49 +0200, Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:

  

How do I get the plugin into Firefox? I have the USE flag in place, and
a 32 and 64 bit plugin appears available, but still nothing shows for
about:plugins.

  

The fetch restriction appears when downloading its documentation, not
the jvm itself; if you don't have doc use flag enabled for jvm you won't
download it, and hence, you won't experience its fetch restrictions.



I wasn't aware of this.  If ufed is properly configured, then the JVM is 
directly fetched?  :)




-Thufir

  
You may have a misunderstanding here. The fetch restriction doesn't mean 
it's not properly configured, it just means that its configuration 
implies some special conditions to download some packages. Concerning 
jdk, see the difference between have doc use flag enabled or disabled:


*
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ USE=-doc emerge -pv jdk

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  NS   ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.02  USE=-X -alsa -doc -examples 
-jce -nsplugin 0 kB

[ebuild  NS   ] virtual/jdk-1.6.0  0 kB
*
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ USE=doc emerge -pv jdk

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N F  ] dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.6.0-r1  53,612 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.02  USE=doc -X -alsa -examples 
-jce -nsplugin 0 kB

[ebuild  NS   ] virtual/jdk-1.6.0  0 kB
*

If you want docs you have to merge the package dev-java/java-sdk-docs. 
However, to download that package you must accept a license by Sun, 
that's why you can't download it directly through Portage.


Taking a look at the following link may help you as well:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Fetch_Restrictions

HTH,
Abraham

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Re: [gentoo-user] Java Version

2007-08-23 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Naga escribió:

On Wednesday 22 August 2007 15:37:38 Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
  

sean escribió:


Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
  

The fetch restriction appears when downloading its documentation, not
the jvm itself; if you don't have doc use flag enabled for jvm you
won't download it, and hence, you won't experience its fetch
restrictions.

On the other hand, which flag have you exactly enabled for getting
java into Firefox?

Abraham


USE flag nsplugins

The instructions on Gentoo's site differ a bit from the actual results.


eselect java-nsplugin list results as below

Available 32-bit Java browser plugins
Available 64-bit Java browser plugins

No numbered options as to choose one.

I am on AMD64 and using the 64 bit version, so I figured the 64-bit
version should support the 64 bit firefox compiled?
  

There are no number options because you don't seem to have any Java
browser plugin available. This is the output I get when I run eselect
java-nsplugin list:

Available Java browser plugins
  [1]   sun-jdk-1.5  current

Since I have sun-jdk available. Could you please run both eix ^jre$
and eix ^jdk$ and post the output?

Abraham



There are no 64 bit java plugins :(

  


Bad thing... Have you checked whether you can use a 32-bit version? I 
haven't worked with a 64-bit system, but I've heard there is some 
backwards compatibility by which 32-bit programs can be run on 64-bit 
systems.


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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package isn't really there.

2007-08-23 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Ernie Schroder escribió:

On Wednesday 22 August 2007, a tiny voice compelled Ernie Schroder to write:
  

On Wednesday 22 August 2007, a tiny voice compelled James Ausmus to write:


emerge -ptv kino
  

nothing that helps me here that I see
$ emerge -ptv kino

These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N] media-video/kino-1.0.0  USE=alsa dvdr quicktime
vorbis -gpac -sox 5,301 kB
[ebuild  N]  media-sound/rawrec-0.9.98  60 kB
[ebuild  N]  media-video/dvdauthor-0.6.11  282 kB
[ebuild  N]  media-libs/libiec61883-1.1.0  USE=-examples 359 kB
[ebuild  N]  media-libs/libdv-1.0.0-r2  USE=sdl xv -debug 571 kB
[ebuild  N]  media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070616-r1  USE=X encode mmx
ogg oss sdl truetype vorbis zlib -a52 -aac
(-altivec) -amr -debug -doc -ieee1394 -imlib -network -test -theora
-threads -v4l -x264 -xvid 0 kB
[blocks B ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070525 (is blocking
media-video/kino-1.0.0)

Total: 6 packages (6 new, 1 block), Size of downloads: 6,571 kB


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Regards, Ernie



So exactly how do I convince portage that the blocking ffmpeg is NOT installed

  


Taking a look at the ebuild I saw this in the DEPEND list:

   =media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20061016
   !media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070525

Portage seems to look for a version later than 0.4.9_p20061016 in order 
to satisfy the first condition and finds 0.4.9_p20070616-r1; however, 
then it sees version must not be older than 0.4.9_p20070525 and it 
fails... simply add the following line to /etc/portage/packages.mask:


media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070525

and you'll be able to install kino-1.0.0 with no problem.

What I wonder now is, shouldn't Portage itself have detected this issue 
and choose a version between 0.4.9_p20061016 and 0.4.9_p20070525? Would 
this be a Portage bug?


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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package isn't really there.

2007-08-23 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Neil Bothwick escribió:

Hello Ernie Schroder,

  

Kino 1.1.0 on the other hand is satisfied by any version later than
0.4.9_p20061016.  
  

Not so.

# emerge -p kino

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070616-r1  USE=X encode
mmx ogg oss sdl truetype vorbis zlib -a52 -aac 
(-altivec) -amr -debug -doc -ieee1394 -imlib -network -test -theora

-threads -v4l -x264 -xvid [ebuild  N] media-libs/libdv-1.0.0-r2
USE=sdl xv -debug [ebuild  N] media-libs/libiec61883-1.1.0
USE=-examples [ebuild  N] media-video/dvdauthor-0.6.11
[ebuild  N] media-sound/rawrec-0.9.98
[ebuild  N] media-video/kino-1.1.0  USE=alsa dvdr quicktime 
vorbis -gpac -sox



It is so, kino 1.1.0 pulls in ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070616, which doesn't cause
any blocks. The facts that the block disappears when you switch to 1.1.0
should be enough to convince you.
  
The block isn't caused by ffmpeg, but by kino's ebuild. Kino 1.1.0 is 
still marked as unstable, and I guess devs have a good reason to do such 
a thing. See my other post for the workaround.


BTW, ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070525 and above are also marked as unstable (or so 
they were last Monday, haven't checked since then).


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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package isn't really there.

2007-08-23 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Bo Ørsted Andresen escribió:

On Thursday 23 August 2007 08:15:58 Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
  

What I wonder now is, shouldn't Portage itself have detected this issue
and choose a version between 0.4.9_p20061016 and 0.4.9_p20070525? Would
this be a Portage bug?



Sure. And it's a very new bug. Hence the high bug number... ;)

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1343

  
Wow, now that's too big for me, I'll leave the business to those closer 
to God :-P.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Java Version

2007-08-22 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

sean escribió:

Dale wrote:

:-)  :-)

Thanks all, the latest version of Sun's package does not have any
fetch restrictions.


Really, maybe I confused it with something else.  It would be nice if
fetch restrictions was removed though.
Dale



Yes, it fetched and installed without any need from me like it was 
with previous versions. This appears to be the case for version 1.5 of 
Sun's package.


How do I get the plugin into Firefox?
I have the USE flag in place, and a 32 and 64 bit plugin appears 
available, but still nothing shows for about:plugins.


The fetch restriction appears when downloading its documentation, not 
the jvm itself; if you don't have doc use flag enabled for jvm you won't 
download it, and hence, you won't experience its fetch restrictions.


On the other hand, which flag have you exactly enabled for getting java 
into Firefox?


Abraham

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Re: [gentoo-user] Java Version

2007-08-22 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

sean escribió:

Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:


The fetch restriction appears when downloading its documentation, not 
the jvm itself; if you don't have doc use flag enabled for jvm you 
won't download it, and hence, you won't experience its fetch 
restrictions.


On the other hand, which flag have you exactly enabled for getting 
java into Firefox?


Abraham



USE flag nsplugins

The instructions on Gentoo's site differ a bit from the actual results.


eselect java-nsplugin list results as below

Available 32-bit Java browser plugins
Available 64-bit Java browser plugins

No numbered options as to choose one.

I am on AMD64 and using the 64 bit version, so I figured the 64-bit 
version should support the 64 bit firefox compiled?
There are no number options because you don't seem to have any Java 
browser plugin available. This is the output I get when I run eselect 
java-nsplugin list:


Available Java browser plugins
 [1]   sun-jdk-1.5  current

Since I have sun-jdk available. Could you please run both eix ^jre$ 
and eix ^jdk$ and post the output?


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Re: [gentoo-user] torrent issue

2007-08-20 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

ionut cristian cucu escribió:

i have a strange issue with torrent clients: they freeze my computer.
Sometimes i just start the legal download and my computer stops
responding, other times at some point while downloading. Everything
else works just fine. I did a memtest nothing came out wrong. I'm
using an ~amd64 box  with 2.6.21-gentoo-r3. Whether I use a C or a
python client it crashes my system bad(only a hard reset works), even
if X is not started a console client will freeze my computer. I used
torrents before and worked fine but now, well now they don't. Do you
have any ideea?
  

Have you tried revdep-rebuild or a stable version of the package?

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Re: [gentoo-user] torrent issue

2007-08-20 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

ionut cucu escribió:

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:15:09 +0200
Abraham Marín Pérez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

ionut cristian cucu escribió:


i have a strange issue with torrent clients: they freeze my
computer. Sometimes i just start the legal download and my computer
stops responding, other times at some point while downloading.
Everything else works just fine. I did a memtest nothing came out
wrong. I'm using an ~amd64 box  with 2.6.21-gentoo-r3. Whether I
use a C or a python client it crashes my system bad(only a hard
reset works), even if X is not started a console client will freeze
my computer. I used torrents before and worked fine but now, well
now they don't. Do you have any ideea?
  
  

Have you tried revdep-rebuild or a stable version of the package?


Of what package? I tried many torrent clients, couldn't be that they
all froze my system just because they're marker (~), also I've been
running al my gentoos on (~arch) but i don't recall, other than nvidia
driver, any progs to actualy freez my computer
  


Well, I don't know the inner structure of torrent clients, by I guess 
they all could be depending on some common library. If this is the case 
and the version of that hypothetical library is still unstable you could 
have there the origin of you problem (I don't think an unstable package 
could freeze you box, but still it's an idea).


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: phpMyAdmin

2007-08-16 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Hans-Werner Hilse escribió:

Hi,

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:24:10 + (UTC) Thufir
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
It seems that Apache needs configuration?  specifically the 
documentroot?  Is that required?



No, in that case you wouldn't even see the directory listing. Your
probably just not running the PHP module. Check
your /etc/conf.d/apache2 and set APACHE2_OPTS accordingly (i.e. add 
-D PHP4 or -D PHP5).


-hwh
  

Which is precisely explained in:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/apache-troubleshooting.xml#doc_chap2

Checking Gentoo docs is not a bad thing ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet bridge

2007-08-14 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Mateus Interciso escribió:
Hi, basically, I want to share the internet using a Bridge on a pc with 
two NICS, one for internet, the other for Internal Network.
Now, I know a easiest approuch would be to use NAT, which is how I'm 
doing now, but since I really need Level 2 Routing, I can't afford doing 
this with nat.
  
What do you exactly mean with Level 2 Routing? And why do you think you 
need it?


If you just want to share an Internet connection NAT is just enough 
(proved on my box), if you need/want something else you'll have to 
explain it better if you'd like us to be able to help you.


Abraham.


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Re: [gentoo-user] packages.gentoo.org down?

2007-08-07 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Alexander Skwar escribió:

Hi!

Is it just me, or is http://packages.gentoo.org/ not available?

Alexander Skwar

  

I replies to ping, but I can't access it with my browser either...

Abraham

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage inconsistency?

2007-08-06 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Bo Ørsted Andresen escribió:

On Tuesday 17 July 2007 00:46:08 maxim wexler wrote:
  

So, emerge portage results in one package being
installed, portage, 61kb.

emerge -u portage lines up 5 or 6 packages plus
portage, 18Mb.

Went ahead and just did the one package, figuring
later I could do an emerge -u for the rest of it.

But this is what happens:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ emerge -pv portage

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.9  USE=-build
-doc -epydoc (-selinux) LINGUAS=-pl 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0
kB

What I expected.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ emerge -puv portage

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB

So why doesn't it list the upgrade part now?



Because --update stops calculating deps when none of the specified targets 
need updating. Only --deep checks the consistency of all dependencies even 
when none of the targets need updating. You could argue it's a deficiency in 
portage (although well-known)..


  


It may sound a bit off-topic, but there is (at least) one very good 
reason for portage behaving this way, just think of the following scenario:


We have installed an application called APP (yes, very smart name) and 
this application depends on a dynamic library called LIB (yet smarter 
name). At installation APP was in version 1.0 and LIB in version 2.0.


Now think there's a new version available of LIB, let's say version 2.1, 
but the latest version of APP is still 1.0. If portage performed a deep 
update by default LIB would be rebuilt, but no APP, what would cause 
broken dependencies on APP (remember LIB is a dynamic library). However, 
is you don't update LIB unless you update also APP you will prevent this 
problem*.


Just my 0.02 ;-)

Abraham


* Needless to say, the problem will still arise if two applications 
depend on the same dynamic library, which is a common case, and only one 
of them is updated, but still it's an improvement.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: portage inconsistency?

2007-08-06 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Remy Blank escribió:

Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
  
Now think there's a new version available of LIB, let's say version 2.1, 
but the latest version of APP is still 1.0. If portage performed a deep 
update by default LIB would be rebuilt, but no APP, what would cause 
broken dependencies on APP (remember LIB is a dynamic library). However, 
is you don't update LIB unless you update also APP you will prevent this 
problem*.



That's what revdep-rebuild is for. Update your LIB, run revdep-rebuild,
and if APP is really broken by the LIB update (it doesn't have to be),
it will be rebuilt.

-- Remy

  
That is indeed true, however, it will always be better keeping things 
right than breaking and fixing as a rule, don't you think?


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Re: [gentoo-user] portage inconsistency?

2007-08-06 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Neil Bothwick escribió:

On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 10:45:25 +0200, Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:

  

Now think there's a new version available of LIB, let's say version
2.1, but the latest version of APP is still 1.0. If portage performed a
deep update by default LIB would be rebuilt, but no APP, what would
cause broken dependencies on APP (remember LIB is a dynamic library).
However, is you don't update LIB unless you update also APP you will
prevent this problem*.



SLOTs deal with this problem, allowing you to have LIB-1.0 and LIB-2.0
installed simultaneously.
  


I'm afraid you misunderstood what I said. As you said, slots let 
different versions of the same package being installed in your system, 
however, that's only done when you REALLY need to do so; one of the 
cases in which you would have such a necessity is the one of a library 
which changes its API through versions in a way that breaks backwards 
compatibility. In this case you may have apps using the old API and apps 
using the new one, and hence you would need both versions installed.


However, if you can go with only one version slots aren't used, can you 
imagine the great amount of garbage installed in your box if you had to 
use a new slot for every new version of a package? That's just crazy.


In conclusion, if you update a library and uninstall its previous 
version (which you'd do very often, even if you haven't noticed it 
before) you may need to rebuild the apps using that library as well, 
there's no way you escape from that.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: portage inconsistency?

2007-08-06 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Remy Blank escribió:

Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
  
That is indeed true, however, it will always be better keeping things 
right than breaking and fixing as a rule, don't you think?



The thing is, you will *have to* break things at some point anyway. In
your case, it will be when you decide to update LIB (because you want to
have the new features, or because another package needs the new
version). Between the LIB update and the APP recompilation, APP will be
broken.

Even worse, if you don't know that the LIB update will break APP, you
might not notice immediately that APP is broken, or you might only get
some strange results from APP. That's where revdep-rebuild steps in: it
can tell you that APP is broken, and what's needed to fix it. So you're
better off running it consistently after your regular updates.

  


I'm not talking about not needing revdep-rebuild nor saying non-deep 
updates would prevent breaking dependencies, I just said that non-deep 
updates will *reduce* the amount of packages that need to be rebuilt. I 
systematically run revdep-rebuild after every update world (in fact, 
it's all in a script which performs update world, revdep-rebuild and 
update-eix), but I'd rather have it reinstalling 2 packages than 20. 
That's all.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Excessive processor usage

2007-08-06 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

sean escribió:
There seems to be a lot of excessive processor usage and I am trying 
to track down why.


Is anyone able to recommend the best way to track down what is causing 
the excess processor usage?


I have not noticed anything using top.

Thanks
Sean


If top doesn't show up anything only two things come to my mind:

1) There's no excess processor usage
2) Someone compromised your system and maybe added an application that 
is using you cpu, but also changed top so it doesn't show this new 
application (might seem paranoid, but I've seen it before).


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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage Sneakernet

2007-08-01 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Richard Marz escribió:

I have a networkless box that I've gentoo installed on. I grabbed the
latest portage snapshot from one of the mirrors. I ran emerge -DNeF
world and system on my networked machine to try and fetch every possible
file needed to install my world and system programs. Then I tarred the
distfiles directory which was about 2.5GB and dumped it
into /usr/portage/ on my networkless box. When installing certain
programs on my networkless pc; It complains about not being able to
fetch some package dependencies. Is there an emerge option/switch that I
can use to make sure I fetch every possible depedency/package for every
package in my world and system set. The portage snapshots and distfiles
are in sync. Thanks.

  

Here you should have everything you need:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2007.0/index.xml

Have you checked that out?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Switching from Genkernel to manual build

2007-08-01 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Dan Cowsill escribió:

Is there any specific process to or problems one might encounter as a
result of switching from a Genkernel built kernel over to a manually
built kernel?

Thanks.

  
As far as I can think of it would be enough getting the config file 
generated by genkernel, editing it through make config or similar and go 
ahead. Actually, if you take it as is it would work, but probably you'll 
have lots of stuff you don't want/need, so your task will be mainly 
tuning it down; be careful with those things you think you don't need, 
I'd cut parameters away in several step (change config, build, install, 
try a couple of days, then change again).


HTH,
Abraham
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Re: [gentoo-user] problem with programms like ssh, tor, on wireless

2007-08-01 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

William Kenworthy escribió:

On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 11:38 +0200, Pongracz Istvan wrote:
  

2007. 08. 1, szerda keltezéssel 11.16-kor Kabel The Real ezt írta:


Hello,

ich have a lot of trouble with my wireless configuration. everything
  

...
  
Do this: 
# /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop

# rc



...

Do you have a reference for what rc is/does?  man rc, rc -h and rc
--help dont help ...

BillK
  

Maybe you should take a look at this:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=4

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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache not compiling

2007-08-01 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Alessandro del Gallo escribió:

Hi, when I try to compile Apache, I get this error.

 those are use flags, I try some configuratiosn but always get an 
error

zombie ~ # grep apache /etc/portage/package.use
www-servers/apache -doc -apache2 -ssl -mpm-itk -mpm-leader 
-mpm-peruser -mpm-prefork -mpm-threadpool -mpm-worker -ssl -threads

zombie ~ # emerge apache -D -pvt

These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N] www-servers/apache-2.0.58-r2  USE=-apache2 -debug 
-doc -ldap -mpm-itk -mpm-leader -mpm-peruser -mpm-prefork 
-mpm-threadpool -mpm-worker (-selinux) -ssl -static-modules -threads 
0 kB



ww-servers/apache-2.0.58-r2/work/httpd-2.0.58/modules/proxy 
-I/var/tmp/portage/www-servers/apache-2.0.58-r2/work/httpd-2.0.58/include 
-I/var/tmp/portage/www-servers/apache-2.0.58-r2/work/httpd-2.0.58/modules/generators 
 -L/usr/lib   -o libpcre.la  maketables.lo get.lo study.lo pcre.lo 
pcreposix.lo
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/www-servers/apache-2.0.58-r2/work/httpd-2.0.58/srclib/pcre' 

make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/www-servers/apache-2.0.58-r2/work/httpd-2.0.58/srclib/pcre' 

make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/www-servers/apache-2.0.58-r2/work/httpd-2.0.58/srclib'

Making all in os
make[1]: Entering directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/www-servers/apache-2.0.58-r2/work/httpd-2.0.58/os'
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/www-servers/apache-2.0.58-r2/work/httpd-2.0.58/os'

Making all in server
make[1]: Entering directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/www-servers/apache-2.0.58-r2/work/httpd-2.0.58/server'

Making all in mpm
make[2]: Entering directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/www-servers/apache-2.0.58-r2/work/httpd-2.0.58/server/mpm' 


make[2]: *** No rule to make target `all'.  Stop.
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/www-servers/apache-2.0.58-r2/work/httpd-2.0.58/server/mpm' 


make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/www-servers/apache-2.0.58-r2/work/httpd-2.0.58/server'

make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1


Apparently the error comes when compiling the mpm section of Apache; 
since you seem to have disabled every multi-processing module it may be 
possible that configure generates a makefile with no option at all, 
making it fails when tries to build.


I think this could be a bug; please post both the output of configure 
--help to see the options related to mpm's and the content of 
server/mpm/makefile*



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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache not compiling

2007-08-01 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Alessandro del Gallo escribió:

Hi,

I did built it with mpm-prefork
  http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mpm.html

but it failed:
  http://pastebin.com/m7096a3ad
According to your post your problem is still located in the server/mpm 
makefile, could you please post that file? Consider filing a bug in 
bugzilla as well.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache not compiling

2007-08-01 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Alessandro del Gallo escribió:

Hi,

# zombie work # pwd
/var/tmp/portage/www-servers/apache-2.0.58-r2/work

# cat httpd-2.0.58/server/mpm/Makefile*

SUBDIRS = $(MPM_SUBDIR_NAME)

include $(top_builddir)/build/rules.mk


How about that $(top_builddir)/build/rules.mk? The compiling rules must 
be there.


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Re: [gentoo-user] program autostart from another user

2007-07-30 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez
Maybe this doesn't exactly meet your needs but, have you tried to add 
those program to ~/.bashrc? That way the program will be executed for 
your user.


Abraham

Aleksey V. Kunitskiy escribió:

Hi,

I want to auto start some programs on startup, using init
My local.start looks like:
sudo -u user_name screen program

My question is - is it the right way?
How can I attach next program to existing screen session (by creating new 
buffer in screen session)?


Thanks

  


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Re: [gentoo-user] program autostart from another user [OT]

2007-07-30 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Aleksey V. Kunitskiy escribió:

On Monday 30 July 2007 12:58, Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
  

Maybe this doesn't exactly meet your needs but, have you tried to add
those program to ~/.bashrc? That way the program will be executed for
your user.



I need startup program without user be logged in.
  
I see... Just curious, why would you need a program to be executed by a 
user who isn't logged in? The only reason I can imagine is a daemon, 
server o similar; in that case I'd use start-stop-daemon.


Regards,
Abraham

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't restart apache2

2007-07-24 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez
Have you run etc-update (or dispatch-conf) since the last time you 
updated your system? It may have happened that apache has changed its 
config file syntax or modules directory and, hence, you'll need new 
configuration.


HTH,
Abraham

Mike Diehl escribió:

Well, I'm not sure what I've done.

I did an emerge world some time ago and never restarted apache2.

Now that I HAVE to restart it, it's giving me errors


/etc/init.d/apache2 restart

 * Apache2 has detected a syntax error in your configuration files:
apache2: Syntax error on line 257 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: Cannot 
load /etc/apache2/modules/mod_cgi.so into 
server: /etc/apache2/modules/mod_cgi.so: cannot open shared object file: No 
such file or directory


I've commented out enough lines in the httpd.conf file to guess that probably 
NONE of my apache modules are present anymore.


How can I fix this?  How can I do it and minimize my downtime?

TIA,
  



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Re: [gentoo-user] ADSL network

2007-07-19 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

sain yan escribió:

Hi

My box can`t link to internet , I using rp-pppoe I think it work fine, 
when run pppoe-start I get internet IP and the right DNS informention 
in /etc/resolv.conf ,but ping google.com http://google.com , 
unknewn name, ping IP is rest


why??

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I'm sorry for my poor english!!! 
Try to ping to your DNS, if they reply then they mustn't be the right 
ones (otherwise google.com would resolve); if you can't connect them 
there must be a problem with either your ADSL settings either your 
routing settings.


Abraham

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Machine Cleanup

2007-07-17 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Mark Knecht escribió:

On 7/16/07, Samir Faci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

   So, I have a gentoo install that's slowly evolved over the past 3 
years
or so years.  It's now so cluttered with packages, it's becoming 
ridiculous,
especially for a headless server.  What I'd like to do is be able to 
remove
all KDE/Gnome/X/gtk/qt/...etc out of the machine and not have it 
break the

machine completely.

Any suggestion on how to do go about this?  At this stage, I'd like the
server to have  the basic system build, LAMP, and Postfix.

If I start removing packages, then revdep complains about 
dependencies and

ends pulling back the packages I had removed, same thing with world.  I
globally removed all the X related flags I can think of.

Also, in the process of switching to a hardened profile, which is one 
reason

why I wanted to clean up the install.

Thanks again,

Any help would be appreciated.

--
Samir



Hi Samir,
  You'll probably get some answers more detailed than mine but
fundamentally it goes something like this:

1) First do and emerge -DuN world and make sure everything is up to date.

2) By hand then emerge -C everything (for instance) with gnome or kde
in the package name.

3) Next do an emerge --depclean and let portage remove packages that
were needed for gnome or kde but not required now

4) Do a revdep-rebuild and see what it wants to pull in. If it's
trying to pull in something you don't think is necessary then do an
emerge -pe --tree and look at why it's getting pulled in. Either
remove what's causing it to get rebuilt or let it get pulled back in.

  At this point it's lather and repeat if necessary.

  I've done this a couple of times. It' works but be careful that you
don't reboot during the process as something might be gone that's
still necessary.

Hope this helps,
Mark

I'd proceed similar to this, but changing order:

1) Edit /var/lib/portage/world and unlist every unwanted package.

2) Edit /etc/make.conf and explicitly unset every use tag related to 
packages you don't want in your system.


3) run emerge --update --deep --newuse --ask world

4) run emerge --depclean --ask

5) run revdep-rebuild

If you update your system before removing unwanted packages from world 
file you'll waste time updating packages that will be uninstalled 
afterwards (and big packages, must be said). This way you'll update only 
what you'll keep.


Needless to say, it's always a good idea to back-up your system before 
proceeding.


HTH,
Abraham

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??

2007-07-17 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Henk Boom

Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:08 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??


On 16/07/07, Volker Armin Hemmann 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


because gplv3 removes freedom?
  
As far as I remember from when I read it, it does not take 
any freedoms which the previous versions did not intend to. 
The purpose of the GPL is to protect the 4 freedoms. This 
instalment just closes loopholes in the previous versions 
which would allow these freedoms to be infringed upon.


Henk Boom
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The four freedoms:
Freedom 0: The freedom to run a program for any purpose.
Freedom 1: To study the way a program works, and adapt it to your needs.
Freedom 2: To redistribute copies so that you can help your neighbors.
Freedom 3: Improve the program, and release your improvements to 
   the public, so that the whole community benefits. 
For freedom 1 and 3 to work, the code must be open.


Freedom 1 is just as important as the other three. Freedom one is 
almost eliminated in GPLv3.  Freedom One is the freedom that was

most whole heartedly expressed in the original manifesto.

Freedom 3 is the one that GPLv3 is making most important now.
It does so to the detriment of the other three.

  


I'm not very into licenses and hence my question may seem evident (or 
even stupid) but still... does not Freedom 3 imply Freedom 1? I mean, 
how can you improve a program without being able to study it?


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Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??

2007-07-17 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
  

-Original Message-
From: Abraham Marín Pérez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:43 PM

To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??


[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

  
  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Henk Boom
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:08 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??

  
  

The four freedoms:
Freedom 0: The freedom to run a program for any purpose. 
  
Freedom 1: To 

study the way a program works, and adapt it to your needs. 
  
Freedom 2: 

To redistribute copies so that you can help your neighbors. 
  
Freedom 3: 


Improve the program, and release your improvements to
   the public, so that the whole community benefits.
For freedom 1 and 3 to work, the code must be open.

Freedom 1 is just as important as the other three. Freedom one is
almost eliminated in GPLv3.  Freedom One is the freedom that was
most whole heartedly expressed in the original manifesto.

Freedom 3 is the one that GPLv3 is making most important 
  
now. It does 


so to the detriment of the other three.

  
  
I'm not very into licenses and hence my question may seem evident (or 
even stupid) but still... does not Freedom 3 imply Freedom 1? I mean, 
how can you improve a program without being able to study it?



:)
The freedoms were listed before any license was written.
They were the credo that the GNU foundation was founded upon.
They were still the credo when the name became the Free Software Foundation.
^_^

Now the direction of the organization has apparently changed.
They are more interested in slowing down the competition than
helping the community.  When they first started, the competition
was still thought of as a part of the community.  :/

I worry.
  


Ok, so good intentions are falling apart and being substituted by 
mercantile minds, but still I can't see how freedom one can be 
threatened while enhancing freedom three, it just seems contradictory to me.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Error emerging knob

2007-06-28 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Xavier Parizet escribió:
On Thursday 28 June 2007 17:46:50, Marco Antônio da Veiga 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
  

I got this error emerging knob (to volume control in my HP ZV6000):


Emerging (1 of 1) media-sound/knob-1.2-r1 to /
  

 * knob-1.2.tar.gz RMD160 ;-) ... [ ok ]
 * knob-1.2.tar.gz SHA1 ;-) ...   [ ok ]
 * knob-1.2.tar.gz SHA256 ;-) ... [ ok ]
 * knob-1.2.tar.gz size ;-) ...   [ ok ]
 * checking ebuild checksums ;-) ...  [ ok ]
 * checking auxfile checksums ;-) ... [ ok ]
 * checking miscfile checksums ;-) ...[ ok ]
 * checking knob-1.2.tar.gz ;-) ...   [ ok ]
 * QA Notice: USE Flag 'arts' not in IUSE for media-sound/kn
ob-1.2-r1
 * The package media-sound/knob-1.2-r1 you're trying to merg
e requires aRTs.
 * However, kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10 was compiled with art
s flag disabled.
 *
 * QA Notice: USE Flag 'arts' not in IUSE for media-sound/kn
ob-1.2-r1
 * To build this package you have to recompile
 * kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10 with this arts use flag enable

  d.

As you can see here, you have to reemerge kdelibs with use flag arts 
enabled...

So do :
echo kde-base/kdelibs arts  /etc/portage/package.use 
emerge --oneshot =kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10
  

Yet better: take a look at

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2

or, more specifically, at

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=2

This way you'll have your problem solved AND you'll know what you're 
doing (and what to do next time you see this message).


Abraham
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Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading old server

2007-06-21 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman escribió:

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Hi!

I've just given the task of upgrading a gentoo with kernel 2.6.10 (devfsd) 
I've already synced,
upgraded portage and migrated to 2007.0 profile. I'm reading
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Migrate_to_UDEV but it seems kinda short. Anything 
better, or other
ideas, advice?

Sincerely,
Buanzo

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Have you checked these ones out? --

General HOW-TO for migrating kernel 2.4 to 2.6:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/migration-to-2.6.xml

Gentoo udev guide:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml

OTOH, gentoo-wiki is good, but I'd take a glance at the official 
documentation before:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/*
*
HTH,
Abraham

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't login with a normal user

2007-06-20 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez



4) The file system is mounted noexec.

(So, make sure that you filesystem is currently mounted exec.)



As stated earlier, there is no noexec flag:

/dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime)
 
  
Just blind-shooting but still here are my 0.02$... could it be possible 
that you had the noexec flag enabled by default somewhere and hence it's 
being used even without typing it explicitly in /etc/fstab??


On the other hand, it might be helpful to check if ordinary users can 
execute any other program or it's just a shell problem (you can check 
this through cron, for example).


HTH,
Abraham


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't login with a normal user

2007-06-20 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Abraham Marín Pérez escribió:



4) The file system is mounted noexec.

(So, make sure that you filesystem is currently mounted exec.)



As stated earlier, there is no noexec flag:

/dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime)
 
  
Just blind-shooting but still here are my 0.02$... could it be 
possible that you had the noexec flag enabled by default somewhere and 
hence it's being used even without typing it explicitly in /etc/fstab??


On the other hand, it might be helpful to check if ordinary users can 
execute any other program or it's just a shell problem (you can check 
this through cron, for example).


HTH,
Abraham


Sorry, Thunderbird hadn't downloaded latest mail when I wrote this, so I 
didn't know the problem was already solved at the moment...


Abraham


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Re: [gentoo-user] hacking an ebuild

2007-06-20 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Bo Ørsted Andresen escribió:

On Tuesday 19 June 2007 14:32:15 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  

I took a quick look inside the ebuils. Nothing there seems amd64
specific, so here's how I would proceed;

Create a user overlay in the usual place - $PORTDIR/local/
Copy the ebuild there as normal
modify KEYWORDS=~x86 ~amd64
Check that all the dependencies have amd64 ebuilds as well
emerge jffnms and see what happens



What? Why? Just add 'net-analyzer/jffnms ~x86' 
to /etc/portage/package.keywords? No matter what the KEYWORDS of an ebuild 
are (or aren't) they can be accepted by a proper entry in package.keywords 
(** if empty)...


  
I think the problem here is that the package is masked, not marked as 
unstable; that's the reason to create a new ebuild not affected by the 
general portage.mask... Am I right?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't login with a normal user

2007-06-19 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Jan-Hendrik Zab escribió:

Hey,
for a few days now I'm unable to log in to my PC[0] with a normal user
(root works just fine). The following error is printed:

/bin/zsh: Permission denied

The same happens when I try it with a user that has /bin/bash as the
default shell. The permissions for both files are:

-rwxr-xr-x 2 root root

Furthermore, it occurs regardless if I try to log in directly at the
terminal or per SSH. I've no clue how to get rid of this problem or even
how it manifested itself in the first place. So any help would be very
appreciated!


Regards,
Jan-Hendrik Zab

[0] - Running a ~amd64 Gentoo.

  
IMHO, the problem is it can't get the bash program to execute. 
Permissions on bash binary seem ok to me, maybe a problem with /bin's 
permissions?


HTH,
Abraham


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Modelling software - free - preferably easy to install under Gentoo.

2007-06-18 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Steve [Gentoo] escribió:

On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 05:22:47PM +, James wrote:
  

Matlab is the standard for mathematical analysis of all sorts of
phenomenon, from a mathematical perspective.



I'm familiar with Matlab... you're the second person to mention
Octave...

  

I would like to do some analysis on these signals to see if there are
any interesting things that can be demonstrated - for example, if I
could show a strong correlation in the signals between two times, but
none at other times, I might be able to conclude that there was
communication of some description, but only for a fixed duration.
  

Very unclear what you are saying. Are these signals related to events in
your network? More information will help.



I agree - Not only was my post unclear, but I'm unclear about what I
want too. :-)

My data, in  reality, consists national statistics - and my
self-appointed challenge is to establish if, subject to appropriate
analysis, they will expose undocumented trends or other anomalies.  I
don't know what trends or anomalies I want to find until I discover
them... but I suspect that, once found, they'd be interesting. :-)

  

'exi octave' reveals:



Octave is a good suggestion - but probably not what I need.  I've been
pointed at R ( http://www.r-project.org/ ) which looks more hopeful,
though I can't find it in portage. If there were an interactive GUI to
apply standard statistical analyses to data as a front-end to R, then
that would likely be just what I want.  Failing that - just finding R
in portage would be a step forwards.

I'd be very interested to know if R has competition...
  
R is indeed in portage, you may have not found it due to it being 
uppercase. Try the following:


emerge -pv R  # Remember: type 'R' and not 'r'

Also, R has commercial alternatives, such as S and S+, but I'm sure you 
prefer the free version ;-).


HTH,
Abraham

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Re: [gentoo-user] M$ Excel document converter

2007-06-13 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Aleksey Kunitskiy escribió:

On Wednesday 13 June 2007 12:40, Florian Philipp wrote:
  

You can open Excel files with KSpread and Openoffice without an external
converter. Then you can save them in open document format.

But keep in mind that documents produced by Openoffice are not 100%
compatible with Koffice documents because they have a different
implementation for some features.



The problem is that KSpread doesn't read this Excel doc,i.e. the doc is 
unreadable in KSpread. OO is too big for reading one Excel doc once a week :

(, imho

  
Have you checked that document's Excel format? Maybe KSpread can't read 
it because of a too new Excel format, try re-saving it in an older one.


HTH,
Abraham

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Re: [gentoo-user] Date and time reset randomly.

2007-06-12 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez
Have you checked your BIOS battery? It may sound a bit silly, but that's 
the tipical effect of a BIOS battery run out...


HTH,
Abraham

Bernard Van de Walle escribió:

Hello gentoo peoples ;)

I have a little problem on my laptop. Everything is fine, except the
fact that sometimes, the date and time reset to the 01/01/2000 .
Consequently, on reboot, the boot process warn me that there are many
files wich have modification dates in the future   That happens 
randomly, in something like every 15 reboots ...


I have then to reconfigure my dates 

So, does anyone knows where is that problem coming from ?

It is of course not very important , but I would be happy to fix it ..

Thanks.
  



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Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird and local LDAP server

2005-08-17 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez
Well, after using Ethereal to see the parameters sent during the 
transaction, it does work, I can browse the LDAP database. The problem 
now is that LDAP access seems to be read only and I'd like to be able to 
add new contacts to the directory from Thunderbird, is this possible? 
and is this secure to be done through Internet?


Thanks,
Abraham

Brett Schroeder escribió:

The OpenLDAP client is *not* needed on the machine running T-bird - do 
something like the following to convince yourself that t-bird does 
*not* require the ldap client


grep -i ldap 
/var/db/pkg/mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0.6-r2/{,R,P}DEPEND


All the work is in setting up the server. Thunderbird itself requires 
only a few simple pieces of info.


See this

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/specs/ldap.html

and here's some more links (somewhat dated now but they get you 
thinking in the right direction)


http://collingrady.com/2004/07/02/moz-ldap/
http://www.topology.org/comms/ldap.html

The best way to get this working (as is the case for any client-server 
software) is to use ethereal/tcpdump to capture the network requests 
made by t-bird. Then you will see exactly what requests are being sent 
to  from the server. This requires that you understand the protocol 
and how your server has  implemented it


http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2251.txt
http://www.openldap.org/doc/admin23/

LDAP schemas  servers are way too much fun ;-)

Brett

Ralph Slooten wrote:


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Hello Abraham,

I have been looking at LDAP myself for ages now, but understand almost
nothing of it ;-) Anyways, your (first) mail got me thinking to test it
myself again. I hit the same brick wall you did. It seems that the
current thunderbird does *not* support LDAP at all (although it does
present it as an option). I tried from an example on a website (to test
with their ldap), aswell as random off-my-head values but it does not
append it to the address book.

Maybe it's a thunderbird bug, I don't know (I haven't looked yet)?

All I'm doing here is confirming your problem, not solving it (although
I would be interested if there is a solution) ;-) Maybe it requires
openldap to be installed (I only installed it so far on my server, not
workstation)?

Greetings
Ralph

Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:


Hi everyone:

  I recently had some problems sharing my contacts with more than one
mail client, so I decided to run a local LDAP server. I emerged 
OpenLDAP

and checked it with phpLDAPadmin. I can browse server's database and
add/remove/modify contacts with phpLDAPadmin, but I can't connect to it
with a mail application; I tried both Evolution and Thunderbird and I
got nothing.

  The one I care the most is Thunderbird. I tried to add a link to the
server from the Address Book: FILE - NEW - LDAP DIRECTORY; I typed
what I think is the right parameters and tried, but nothing 
happened. Am

I doing anything wrong?

Thanks,
Abraham



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Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird and local LDAP server

2005-08-16 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez
It must be a different problem since Thunderbird is indeed compiled with 
ldap support enabled, in fact, I also have Evolution (also compile with 
+ldap) and can't access my local ldap server either; I guess my problem 
is not related with Thunderbird but with the server itself. I'll try 
again following Brett's links, thank you all anyway.


Regards,
Abraham

Bryce Verdier escribió:



emerge -vp mozilla-thunderbird

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0.6-r2  -debug 
+gnome +ipv6 +ldap -mozcalendar -moznoxft +truetype -xinerama -xprint 
32,584 kB


You probably just needed to add the +ldap to your USE variable.

b.

Peter van Eck wrote:


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Here is a problem that I've been facing for a while too ;-(

Adding an LDAP server in Thunderbird, basically all Mozilla releases
from 1.x.x. and up were giving the same result ..You add the LDAP server
and it will not show up in the end.No errors or anything ..
In my case the LDAP server in question is, Netscape's / Sun Iplanet..

I tested on different machines with different versions of X and window
managers...all on gentoo..same result..

I ended up using Netscape 7.2 which did work ..

Now I've recently installed the thunderbird-bin package from portage and
guess what .. IT WORKS !!!

I tried the source package ..and no luck.,..You would start to think
that it is not compiled in building from source on gentoo.
I did'nt look into it in detail though , so can't really make a
statement on that..

Just my experience with LDAP / Mozilla...

rgds,

Peter

Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
 


Hi everyone:

  I recently had some problems sharing my contacts with more than one
mail client, so I decided to run a local LDAP server. I emerged 
OpenLDAP

and checked it with phpLDAPadmin. I can browse server's database and
add/remove/modify contacts with phpLDAPadmin, but I can't connect to it
with a mail application; I tried both Evolution and Thunderbird and I
got nothing.

  The one I care the most is Thunderbird. I tried to add a link to the
server from the Address Book: FILE - NEW - LDAP DIRECTORY; I typed
what I think is the right parameters and tried, but nothing 
happened. Am

I doing anything wrong?

Thanks,
Abraham

  


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Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird and IMAP

2005-08-03 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Ralph Slooten wrote:


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Hiya,

Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
 


Hi everyone,

  I recently migrated from Evolution to Mozilla Thunderbird and I must
say that I has been a really good move ;-). However, I have a couple of
problems to fix before finishing the migration; firstly, I can browse
the main folder in an IMAP server, but I can't browse subfolders,
   



Right-click on the account and select Subscribe. I'm not sure about
evolution, but thunderbird allows you to subscribe to folders like they
were newsgroups. I'm not sure which imap software you are using, so I
just presume courier-imap ;-)


 


although I could with Evolution (and still can). On the other hand, I've
got loads of contacts in Evolution that I'd like to transfer to
Thunderbird without copying all them by hand.
   



In the addressbook go to tools - import. There are several formats to
import from. Again, I'm not sure of evolution, but I do presume it can
export entries in certain standard formats (ldif, tab delimited, comma
separated). Export them from evolution in one of those formats, and
import them into thunderbird.
 



OK, the IMAP problem is totally solved, I didn't know Thunderbird needed 
you to specify which folders you'd like it to read... I haven't solved 
the address book problem yet because Evolution doesn't seem to have a 
way to export all the contacts, so I'll try recompiling both Evolution 
and Thunderbird with ldap enabled...


Thanks a lot,
Abraham
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[gentoo-user] Thunderbird and IMAP

2005-07-28 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Hi everyone,

   I recently migrated from Evolution to Mozilla Thunderbird and I must
say that I has been a really good move ;-). However, I have a couple of
problems to fix before finishing the migration; firstly, I can browse
the main folder in an IMAP server, but I can't browse subfolders,
although I could with Evolution (and still can). On the other hand, I've
got loads of contacts in Evolution that I'd like to transfer to
Thunderbird without copying all them by hand.

Any help with either of these two problems?

Thanks,
Abraham

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