Re: [gentoo-user] Nice level for X11
by selecting a suitable process scheduler and configuring your HZ to 1000 It is already done. (the Hz). Well thanks very much for these information (you and other people on this thread). I believe what you say but I believe too what I see with my own eyes. If we will ever meet on a Gentoo conference or anything, I'll show my faster X11 with negative nice level. ;) Anyway I'm running it with default nice level (0) for some days because X11 is very unstable with -15 niceness. 2008/5/15 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday 15 May 2008, Abraham Gyorgy wrote: I know X runs always as root. But setting the X server process' priority to for example -10 makes graphical software response faster. It works for me!! (no matter the system hangs sometimes :). I think you have a fast machine, try it with a very slow computer (sempron processor and radeon xpress200m+fglrx). Please don't top post in this forum. Look, you are talking about running the X session as root. That doesn't make sense as an X session is e.g. gnome or kde which runs as the user. I fail to see how the X client programs have any effect on the the responsiveness of the server, yet this is exactly what you are saying. Then you talk about vulnerabilities in the client apps with an implication that this can somehow affect the server which runs as root. But that is just not true, except if a client can exploit a vulnerability in the server (which is to my mind not what you are saying). Finally, there is very little point in debating this topic. If Linus says that niceness has never had a whole lot of effect in Linux, and that perceived differences are entirely due to reducing the latency a specific app experiences, then I am going to go with the one guy that knows the subject and consider your experiences to be anecdotal. You'll probably get better results with X by selecting a suitable process scheduler and configuring your HZ to 1000 2008/5/14 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wednesday 14 May 2008, Josh Cepek wrote: lapitopi gyuszk # snice -15 X As already pointed out, running process with a nice value less than 0 can only be done by root, and it's usually a really bad idea to run your entire X session as root. X (and applications running under X) involve a lot of code, and vulnerabilities can exist in this code. I think you don't know how X runs. X *always* runs as root on Linux so whether you nice it to 19 or -19 is not relevant. It was only very very recently that someone got X to run as a user. Do you disagree or should I elaborate? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Nice level for X11
Thanks, these are already okay. 2008/5/14 Justin Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On AD 2008 May 13 Tuesday 09:50:24 PM +0200, Abraham Gyorgy wrote: Hello guys, in which configuration file can I set a nice level for X11? (this makes all graphical software run much faster, at least when I used Debian). Before trying this, there are some kernel modifications you can try: preemptible kernel timer frequency - 1000 Hz Justin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Nice level for X11
I know X runs always as root. But setting the X server process' priority to for example -10 makes graphical software response faster. It works for me!! (no matter the system hangs sometimes :). I think you have a fast machine, try it with a very slow computer (sempron processor and radeon xpress200m+fglrx). 2008/5/14 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wednesday 14 May 2008, Josh Cepek wrote: lapitopi gyuszk # snice -15 X As already pointed out, running process with a nice value less than 0 can only be done by root, and it's usually a really bad idea to run your entire X session as root. X (and applications running under X) involve a lot of code, and vulnerabilities can exist in this code. I think you don't know how X runs. X *always* runs as root on Linux so whether you nice it to 19 or -19 is not relevant. It was only very very recently that someone got X to run as a user. Do you disagree or should I elaborate? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Nice level for X11
You really don't know what I was talking about. (sorry for my bad English). I'm NOT running my X11 session as root (only X server), but as normal user. Setting the nice level of X server below 0 (for example -10 or -15) made all X11 clients (the graphical programs) response faster. Everything responses smoother. This is not about RUNNING faster, but along with my preemptible kernel my whole X11 session become smoother. (this is important for me because I own a very slow computer..sh*t sempron processor..). Not ages ago (sarge or sid in 2006 for example) Debian asked me if I want X server to run with higher priority. (when installing x11 package with debconf set to low). This gave me the idea. My X11 session works good. There was 2 system hangups while playing video with Mplayer. Maybe that was because of the very high priority. I will play with the values, -15 proved to be dangerous. 2008/5/14 Josh Cepek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Abraham Gyorgy wrote: Well I did a little Google'ing, and i found a blog. There the author wrote: lapitopi gyuszk # snice -15 X As already pointed out, running process with a nice value less than 0 can only be done by root, and it's usually a really bad idea to run your entire X session as root. X (and applications running under X) involve a lot of code, and vulnerabilities can exist in this code. You don't want any vulnerabilities to be potentially exploited as the root user. Take the multiple X-terminal vulnerabilities reported last week by the Gentoo security team that could allow local attackers to hijack X11 terminals of other users. The moral is don't run as root unless you actually need to (and I'd argue that you should never need to run X sessions as root.) After doing this, I ran htop and it told me that my X11 was running with -15 niceness. I experience better responsiblity under all of X11 (kde, firefox, konsole, anything). For example switching from an existing Firefox window to (for ex.) Konsole or Xchat is much faster. I have to add, I own a very slow computer, so I have to do everything to speed up my system. It is very slow even with WinXP+official drivers. If the goal is to lower the priority of other tasks the computer may be doing at the same time, perhaps setting a higher nice value for them would offer similar results. In the case of compiling, portage provides an easy way to lower the priority with the PORTAGE_NICENESS value. 2008/5/14 Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tuesday 13 May 2008, Andrey Falko wrote: On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 13 May 2008, Abraham Gyorgy wrote: Hello guys, in which configuration file can I set a nice level for X11? (this makes all graphical software run much faster, at least when I used Debian). Nice factor for X makes graphical software run fater? I don't thinl so. Not at all. Nice factor gives X priority, so if you are compiling something and X's priority is high, you'll be using X as if nothing was being compiled. Only if you are root. As a normal user, you can only lower the priority of a process. -- Josh
Re: [gentoo-user] Nice level for X11
Well I did a little Google'ing, and i found a blog. There the author wrote: lapitopi gyuszk # snice -15 X After doing this, I ran htop and it told me that my X11 was running with -15 niceness. I experience better responsiblity under all of X11 (kde, firefox, konsole, anything). For example switching from an existing Firefox window to (for ex.) Konsole or Xchat is much faster. I have to add, I own a very slow computer, so I have to do everything to speed up my system. It is very slow even with WinXP+official drivers. 2008/5/14 Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tuesday 13 May 2008, Andrey Falko wrote: On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 13 May 2008, Abraham Gyorgy wrote: Hello guys, in which configuration file can I set a nice level for X11? (this makes all graphical software run much faster, at least when I used Debian). Nice factor for X makes graphical software run fater? I don't thinl so. Not at all. Nice factor gives X priority, so if you are compiling something and X's priority is high, you'll be using X as if nothing was being compiled. Only if you are root. As a normal user, you can only lower the priority of a process. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Nice level for X11
Hello guys, in which configuration file can I set a nice level for X11? (this makes all graphical software run much faster, at least when I used Debian). Thanks in advance
Re: [gentoo-user] Best anti-virus
If you want open source antivirus, you can only use ClamAV. Anyway there are a number of free or commercial antivirus solutions for Linux. (I don't know if any of these supports Thunderbird). http://www.linux.com/articles/22899 This is a good article about antivirus solutions. You can use ClamAV along with Sylpheed(Claws) because it has integration for it. Bye, Gyuszk 2008/5/9 Tony Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am currently using the clamv anti-virus program. I was wondering if there is a better one for Gentoo, especially one that integrates well with Thunderbird. That has been my one disappointment with clamav. Not necessarily clamav's fault since T/B maintains its emails in one long file. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin
Re: [gentoo-user] [off-topic] Hello all!
Ask a question and you'll be answered. But first look at http://gentoo-wiki.com/Main_Page ! It has tons of tips! ;) 2008/5/4, Akselii [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello all, this is my first time trying these lists, and i found them quite handy already. Any tips or tricks for me? Sorry for off-topic! -- Akseli Ollikainen -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] march=k8 for AthlonX2?
Omg, we really can use march=native ?? That would be great if true. (sorry for my bad english :) 2008/5/3, Neil Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mark Knecht wrote: Would I be making a reasonably good setting using this in make.conf? CFLAGS=-O2 -march=k8 -pipe CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=k8 -pipe That's what I would be using on my single, dual and quad cores if I weren't using -march=native. ;) Be lucky, Neil -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] march=k8 for AthlonX2?
Thanks. Unfortunately I'm not using 4.2, but 4.1 http://packages.gentoo.org/package/sys-devel/gcc 4.2 is in testing for amd64. 2008/5/3, Neil Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Abraham Gyorgy wrote: Omg, we really can use march=native ?? That would be great if true. Yes, as long as you are using a recent version of gcc which has support for it. I think it came in with gcc 4.2. (sorry for my bad english :) Your English seems fine to me - better than some native English speakers I know. ;) Be lucky, Neil -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SMB protocol for Krusader
Well thanks. :) lapitopi gyuszk # emerge -pv kdebase These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] sys-apps/xinetd-2.3.14 USE=perl tcpd 295 kB [ebuild N] net-fs/samba-3.0.28 USE=acl cups ipv6 pam python readline -ads -async -automount -caps -doc -examples -fam -ldap -quotas (-selinux) -swat -syslog -winbind LINGUAS=-ja -pl 17,735 kB [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.8-r6 USE=cups pam samba* xscreensaver -arts -branding -debug -hal -ieee1394 -java -joystick -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -ldap -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse -openexr -opengl -xcomposite -xinerama 23,671 kB Total: 3 packages (2 new, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 41,700 kB lapitopi gyuszk # I think it's going to work. 2008/5/2, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Freitag, 2. Mai 2008, Abraham Gyorgy wrote: Hello Gentoo users, I'm trying to enable smb:// support for Krusader. Searching the net I got a solution: I have to emerge kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves. (on Ubuntu I had to install a very similarly named package to do this). But unfortunately doing this isnt a good idea, because: lapitopi gyuszk # emerge -pv kdebase-kioslaves These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] kde-base/kdialog-3.5.8 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 23,633 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.8 USE=-arts -debug -hal -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -ldap -openexr -samba -xinerama 20 kB [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.8-r6) [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.8, kde-base/kdialog-3.5.8) [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdialog-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.8-r6) Total: 2 packages (2 new, 3 blocks), Size of downloads: 23,653 kB Maybe kdebase has a use flag for kioslaves...? lapitopi gyuszk # emerge -pv kdebase These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.8-r6 USE=cups pam xscreensaver -arts -branding -debug -hal -ieee1394 -java -joystick -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -ldap -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse -openexr -opengl -samba -xcomposite -xinerama 23,671 kB No. :( Information: I'm running Gentoo amd64, everything up-to-date. Installed monolythic kde (emerge kde). Can anybody help? Thanks a lot. there is no flag, because kio-slaves are an integral part of KDE and always installed with kdebase. So you don't need to install anything. BUT you need to re-emerge kdebase with the samba useflag. lmsensors, opengl, hal, java, kdehiddenvisibility, xcomposity would be good ideas too. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] SMB protocol for Krusader
Hello Gentoo users, I'm trying to enable smb:// support for Krusader. Searching the net I got a solution: I have to emerge kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves. (on Ubuntu I had to install a very similarly named package to do this). But unfortunately doing this isnt a good idea, because: lapitopi gyuszk # emerge -pv kdebase-kioslaves These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] kde-base/kdialog-3.5.8 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 23,633 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.8 USE=-arts -debug -hal -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -ldap -openexr -samba -xinerama 20 kB [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.8-r6) [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.8, kde-base/kdialog-3.5.8) [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdialog-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.8-r6) Total: 2 packages (2 new, 3 blocks), Size of downloads: 23,653 kB Maybe kdebase has a use flag for kioslaves...? lapitopi gyuszk # emerge -pv kdebase These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.8-r6 USE=cups pam xscreensaver -arts -branding -debug -hal -ieee1394 -java -joystick -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -ldap -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse -openexr -opengl -samba -xcomposite -xinerama 23,671 kB No. :( Information: I'm running Gentoo amd64, everything up-to-date. Installed monolythic kde (emerge kde). Can anybody help? Thanks a lot.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: init 1, root device is busy :(
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Samstag, den 19.04.2008, 21:53 +0200 schrieb Abraham Gyorgy: Now all my partitions are set to never fsck at boot time. :) Never do this unless you're using xfs. Bye... Dirk Why? never fsck at boot time - /dev/hda1 /boot ext3noauto,noatime 0 0 /dev/hda2 / ext3noatime 0 0 /dev/hda3 /home ext3noatime 0 0 Now it is set to: /dev/hda1 /boot ext3noauto,noatime 0 2 /dev/hda2 / ext3noatime 0 1 /dev/hda3 /home ext3noatime 0 2 (I've read in fstab manpage that root device should be 1, other partition should be 2. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: init 1, root device is busy :(
Francesco Talamona wrote: On Saturday 19 April 2008, Gyuszk wrote: I can unmount my /boot and /home partitions but I just can't remount my root device to be readonly. (Linux says it is busy.) What should I do with this? 1.) Should I edit my Grub menu.lst to make a new entry with single ro kernel parameteres? 2.) Of course I can fsck from (for example) a LiveCD (like Gentoo minimal cd), but at the present I don't have any of these. 3.) Other solution? Of course: it's in use :-) Two options: 1) force partition check with the following command (seen recently in this list) shutdown -Fr 2) create the file /forcefsck touch /forcefsck then reboot, during shutdown you'll see A full fsck will be forced on next startup and then Checking root filesystem (full fsck forced) See the scripts /etc/init.d/halt.sh, /etc/init.d/checkfs and /etc/init.d/checkroot to see all the nuts and bolts Ciao Francesco Thanks a lot! I'll give a deep look at the mentioned files. Anyway I think I'll set my fstab. Now all my partitions are set to never fsck at boot time. :) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] init 1, root device is busy :(
Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: Hello On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 09:18:04PM +0200, Gyuszk wrote: 3.) Other solution? man shutdown: -F Force fsck on reboot. (I know, this one is not really intuitive) Thanks! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: init 1, root device is busy :(
Francesco Talamona wrote: On Saturday 19 April 2008, Abraham Gyorgy wrote: Thanks a lot! I'll give a deep look at the mentioned files. Anyway I think I'll set my fstab. Now all my partitions are set to never fsck at boot time. :) Supposing it's a ext2/3 partition you may also want to use tune2fs to set the check *frequency*. Other filesystems have specialized tools to do it. Ciao Francesco Yes, I know that (read in the manpage). Once I did mess up totally my filesystem (I think I typed wrong arguments accidentally) with tune2fs. :) Since then I really fear of that command. Okay, so after setting a correct fstab (and the shutdown -Fr now) _all_ my partitions were checked during boot (no more need to worry about the init 1 thing.). My root partition were fixed (reboot was needed). I'll set an fsck frequency and set counters to zero. Thanks all the help, people on this mailing list are very-very helpful. Thanks everyone who wrote to this thread! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo AMD64, games freeze!
2008/4/12, Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Abraham Gyorgy wrote: 2008/4/11, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Freitag, 11. April 2008, Abraham Gyorgy wrote: I use revdep-rebuild everytime I upgrade my system. (emerge --sync emerge -uD world revdep-rebuild etc-update). I think revdep-rebuild know what libs are broken. revdep rebuild does not see all brokeness. ldd the games and rebuilt all libs that are loaded. Thanks. Could you give me some instructions (or howto links anything) on how to ldd an installed package? Thanks. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ldd /bin/bash linux-gate.so.1 = (0xe000) libncurses.so.5 = /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0xb7f66000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7f62000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7e32000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7fbb000) Also, please don't top-post. It makes it really hard to keep up with the conversation. Thanks! - -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIAGu6dheOldgSlQgRAhCuAKCxeyy3S2P9tJHPrKbBBcEHn5sChACgjIEB aADBXdKvqpuOWraPhSi8Mew= =sVhi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list Okay. Thanks! :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo AMD64, games freeze!
Thanks. Could you give me some instructions (or howto links anything) on how to ldd an installed package? Thanks. 2008/4/11, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Freitag, 11. April 2008, Abraham Gyorgy wrote: I use revdep-rebuild everytime I upgrade my system. (emerge --sync emerge -uD world revdep-rebuild etc-update). I think revdep-rebuild know what libs are broken. revdep rebuild does not see all brokeness. ldd the games and rebuilt all libs that are loaded. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo AMD64, games freeze!
I use revdep-rebuild everytime I upgrade my system. (emerge --sync emerge -uD world revdep-rebuild etc-update). I think revdep-rebuild know what libs are broken. 2008/4/10, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Montag, 7. April 2008, Gyuszk wrote: Maybe I have to set some USE flags? Thanks in advance! more likely that some lib used by the games needs to rebuilt. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo AMD64, games freeze!
Okay thanks guys, I'll write this post on the gentoo-amd64 list. 2008/4/9, Mateusz A. Mierzwin'ski [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mark Knecht pisze: On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Marzan, Richard non Unisys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Mark Knecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Those of us on the Gentoo-amd64 list welcome you to come join us. - Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list Doesn't it seems strange that most users posts on the gentoo-user ml, regardless of what other ml are available for their topic? I must say that I am guilty of that too. Doesn't anyone post to gentoo subcategorized ml anymore? Well, I certainly post on the gentoo-amd64 list when my questions are specific to my 64-bit machines. things like how to make Flash, java, plugins, etc., work better on that platform are, to me, very appropriate to that list. I post here for more general conversations. - Mark I think that this types of info should be mailed to gentoo-user. But when we post about incompatibility (something don't work as this should) then better to post to gentoo-amd64 list. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Replacing eth0 with wlan0
Steve L. írta: On 3/7/07, *Abraham Gyorgy* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello again :) I've switched my networking from wired eth0 to wlan0. I'm using ndiswrapper with Win32 driver and an USB WiFi adapter. Everything is fine, but... When I set up my Gentoo installation, I've added net.eth0 to default runlevel (it provices the networking in the init system). My ethernet driver (forcedeth nvidia nforce2 chip) is compiled in, using DHCP. All I had to do is to add net.eth0. Now when my system boots it is waiting 1-2 mins for DHCP, then goes forward, but (in the init system) there is no networking, so Samba and other stuff doesnt work. I want to replace this thing, 1) ndiswrapper module should go to /etc/modules.autoload folder 2) then wlan0 device appears, I want to do iwlist wlan0 scan, then DHCP for wlan0 3) all this stuff should go nice to init system, eth0 should be removed, so wlan0 should provide the init system with net. Now I wait for eth0 dhcp'ing, then modprobe, iwlist, and dhcpcd by hand, but it is time consuming and not so nice. What to do exactly guys? Thanks a lot! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list You could tie the net dependent services to the net.lo line, and afterwords bring up either net.eth0 or net.wlan0 manually (Remove them from the rc default). It's not pretty but it could work. The other consideration is to build your profile primairily for which net connection you intend to use the most (Wired/Wireless) Thanks for answers guys, I'll return, hope I'll succeed. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Replacing eth0 with wlan0
Hello again :) I've switched my networking from wired eth0 to wlan0. I'm using ndiswrapper with Win32 driver and an USB WiFi adapter. Everything is fine, but... When I set up my Gentoo installation, I've added net.eth0 to default runlevel (it provices the networking in the init system). My ethernet driver (forcedeth nvidia nforce2 chip) is compiled in, using DHCP. All I had to do is to add net.eth0. Now when my system boots it is waiting 1-2 mins for DHCP, then goes forward, but (in the init system) there is no networking, so Samba and other stuff doesnt work. I want to replace this thing, 1) ndiswrapper module should go to /etc/modules.autoload folder 2) then wlan0 device appears, I want to do iwlist wlan0 scan, then DHCP for wlan0 3) all this stuff should go nice to init system, eth0 should be removed, so wlan0 should provide the init system with net. Now I wait for eth0 dhcp'ing, then modprobe, iwlist, and dhcpcd by hand, but it is time consuming and not so nice. What to do exactly guys? Thanks a lot! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list