Re: [gentoo-user] Standby

2007-10-04 Thread Paul Gibbons
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:06:32 +0930
Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 2007-09-15 at 15:51 +0100, Paul Gibbons wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
  I have in the passed got to the point that pressing the power button
  shut the system down and added an entry into my grub menu.lst of:
 
 [snip]
 
  but when I pressed the power button again it performed a full
  restart.
 
 Here are some things that I do:
 
 1. My method is to keep grub.conf the same regardless of whether I'm
 hibernating or not:
 
 title Gentoo (Linux 2.6.22s2-r1)
root (hd0,2)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.22-suspend2-r1 root=/dev/hda7
 video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 splash=silent,theme:livecd-2007.0  CONSOLE=/dev/tty1
 initrd /fbsplash-livecd-2007.0-1280x1024
 
 When the kernel has loaded, it then looks for a valid suspend image in
 swap (or hd).  If it finds one, it uses it, if it doesn't, then it
 continues booting as normal.
 
 2. I should mention that I'm using suspend2-sources.
 
 3. the suspend2 users mailing list is an excellent place to find help
 with wierd my-system-won't-suspend issues.
 
 4. my /etc/acpi/default.sh has this in it:
 
 case $ev_type in
 button)
 case $event in
 power)
 logger acpid: default.sh hibernate
 /usr/sbin/hibernate
 break
 ;;
 ...
 
 5. and lastly if, when you boot, you can't resume, it sounds like
 you haven't specified where your suspend image is.  Either in the
 kernel: CONFIG_SUSPEND2_DEFAULT_RESUME2=swap:/dev/hda10
 or on the boot line:
 resume=swap:/dev/hda10
 
 If that still doesn't help, post back with the output of `dmesg | grep
 -i suspend` after you've tried to resume.
 
 HTH,


Thanks for the advice. Hopefully I can get enough functionality with
swsusp from gentoo-sources and so not need to change to
suspend2-sources - although that may be a very procedure?

Anyway I have created a 32GB SWAP partition (dev/sda5) and gadded
resume=/dev/sda5 to the boot options. And also made the suggested
change to /etc/acpi/default.sh in point (4) above. Now when I press the
soft power button the system suspends ( all processes appear to stop
and the screen goes blank but for a flashing cursor in the top left of
the 2 screens of my dual headed system) but after a few minutes the
system resumes. It seems that either a wakeup message is being received
or the hibernate script cannot actually power off the computer and so
after a timeout period it resumes.


The contents of /var/log/hibernate.log are:


Starting suspend at Thu Oct 4 20:15:48 BST 2007
Oct 4 20:15:48.55 hibernate: [01] Executing CheckLastResume ...
Oct 4 20:15:48.56 hibernate: [01] Executing CheckRunlevel ...
Oct 4 20:15:48.57 hibernate: [01] Executing LockFileGet ...
Oct 4 20:15:48.58 hibernate: [01] Executing NewKernelFileCheck ...
Oct 4 20:15:48.59 hibernate: [05] Executing XStatusSuspendBegin ...
Oct 4 20:15:48.61 hibernate: [10] Executing
EnsureSysfsPowerStateCapable ... Oct 4 20:15:48.63 hibernate: [11]
Executing ChangeGrubMenu ... Oct 4 20:15:48.66 Changing grub menu...
Oct 4 20:15:48.97 hibernate: [11] Executing XHacksSuspendHook1 ...
Oct 4 20:15:48.98 hibernate: [15] Executing PauseAudio ...
Oct 4 20:15:49.14 hibernate: [20] Executing MiscLaunchAuxFunc1 ...
Executing echo Good night!...
Good night!
Oct 4 20:15:49.15 hibernate: [20] Executing MiscLaunchAuxFunc2 ...
Executing echo Good night!...
Good night!
Oct 4 20:15:49.16 hibernate: [20] Executing XStatusProgress ...
Oct 4 20:15:49.18 hibernate: [30] Executing XStatusProgress ...
Oct 4 20:15:49.19 hibernate: [40] Executing XStatusProgress ...
Oct 4 20:15:49.20 hibernate: [50] Executing XStatusProgress ...
Oct 4 20:15:49.21 hibernate: [59] Executing RemountXFSBootRO ...
Oct 4 20:15:49.25 hibernate: [60] Executing NetworkStop ...
Oct 4 20:15:49.26 Bringing down interface eth1
 * Stopping apache2 ...
  [ ok ]
 * Unmounting network filesystems ...
  [ ok ]
 * samba - stop: smbd ...
  [ ok ]
 * samba - stop: nmbd ...
  [ ok ]
 * Stopping sshd ...
  [ ok ]
 * Stopping eth1
 *   Bringing down eth1
 * Shutting down eth1 ...
  [ ok ]
Oct 4 20:15:52.00 hibernate: [60] Executing XStatusProgress ...
Oct 4 20:15:52.01 hibernate: [70] Executing ClockSave ...
Oct 4 20:15:53.00 hibernate: [70] Executing ClockSave ...
Oct 4 20:15:54.00 hibernate: [70] Executing XStatusProgress ...
Oct 4 20:15:54.02 hibernate: [80] Executing XStatusProgress ...
Oct 4 20:15:54.03 hibernate: [89] Executing SaveKernelModprobe ...
Oct 4 20:15:54.04 hibernate: [90] Executing XStatusProgress ...
Oct 4 20:15:54.05 hibernate: [91] Executing ModulesUnloadBlacklist ...
Oct 4 20:15:54.06 Unloading blacklisted modules
listed /etc

[gentoo-user] Standby

2007-09-15 Thread Paul Gibbons
I have failed in the passed to get  standby  working properly. There
are various wiki notes but none seem to work properly. I know this is a
bit vague but maybe I have missed something at the top level. Would
someone mind making a list of pertient things I need to do. I can then
go and read the relevant wiki pages ( and maybe update them with my new
understanding).

I am using 2.6.22-gentoo-r5 86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core
Processor 4200+ AuthenticAMD.

I have in the passed got to the point that pressing the power button
shut the system down and added an entry into my grub menu.lst of:

### BEGIN HIBERNATE SENTINEL

title
_
configfile dummy title WARNING: Linux 2.6.22-gentoo-r5 is suspended via
Software Suspend! configfile dummy
### END HIBERNATE SENTINEL


but when I pressed the power button again it performed a full restart.

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Re: [gentoo-user] getting GMT to use DST

2007-09-14 Thread Paul Gibbons
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 04:55:15 +0100
Mat Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I have had a machine running for a little while without many
 problems, until I tried to use ntp to keep my clock in sync.
 
 I have got my /etc/localtime and my /etc/conf.d/clock to reflect my
 GMT location, yet all timeservers I try to sync to put me an hour
 behind. I am in the UK and currently our clocks are forwards, or is
 it backwards?
 
 Either way I cannot have my machine out 1 hour for half the year.
 What should my solution be?
 
 TIA
 
 Mat Harrison

I too am on UK time ( Oxford to be precise)
My /etc/conf.d/clock contains:

CLOCK=UTC

# Select the proper timezone.  For valid values, peek inside of the
# /usr/share/zoneinfo/ directory.  For example, some common values are
# America/New_York or EST5EDT or Europe/Berlin.

TIMEZONE=GB

For NTP I followed the instructions in http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_NTP.

I hope this helps.


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[gentoo-user] dbus-binding-tool: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0:

2007-08-25 Thread Paul Gibbons
(Note : Details of how I got into this mess, and contents
of /etc/portage/package.keywords and /etc/make.conf at appended to the
end of this request )

Hi,
I have got into a state that has me stumbed - can anyone help please?
On trying to update I find that packages failed to build during the
prerequisite checks with error:

dbus-binding-tool: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory make[3]: ***
[notificationdaemon-dbus-glue.h] Error 127

eix dbus gives the output
[I] sys-apps/dbus
 Available versions:  1.0.2-r1 1.0.2-r2 {X debug doc kernel_FreeBSD
kernel_linux selinux} Installed versions:  1.0.2-r2(19:35:44
24/08/07)(X -debug doc -kernel_FreeBSD kernel_linux -selinux)
Homepage:http://dbus.freedesktop.org/ Description:
A message bus system, a simple way for applications to talk to each
other

I re-built dbus using command:
emerge --oneshot =sys-apps/dbus-1.0.2-r2

but still dbus-binding-tool complains of error whilst loading
libexpat.so.0.

Then ran
revdep-rebuild --library=libexpat.so.0

but this produced:
All prepared. Starting rebuild...
emerge --oneshot  =app-cdr/k3b-1.0.2 =app-pda/jpilot-0.99.7-r1
=xfce-base/orage-4.4.1 =xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.4.1
=media-libs/libwmf-0.2.8.4 =app-office/abiword-2.4.6
=kde-base/kcminit-3.5.3 =kde-base/khotkeys-3.5.5
=kde-base/ksmserver-3.5.5 =kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.5-r1
=kde-base/kpersonalizer-3.5.5 =kde-base/kdesu-3.5.5
=kde-base/konqueror-3.5.5 =kde-base/ksplashml-3.5.5
=kde-base/kdesdk-kioslaves-3.5.5 =kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10
=kde-base/kwin-3.5.5-r2 =kde-base/libkonq-3.5.5 =kde-base/kdialog-3.5.5
=kde-base/kreadconfig-3.5.0 =kde-base/kfind-3.5.5
=kde-base/kicker-3.5.5 =kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.5
=kde-base/kdepasswd-3.5.5 =kde-base/kdm-3.5.5-r1
=kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.5 =app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-10.0
=app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-gtklibs-10.0-r1 =x11-wm/fluxbox-1.0_rc3
=media-sound/audacity-1.3.2-r1 =media-sound/amarok-1.4.5-r1
=x11-libs/wxGTK-2.6.3.3 =www-servers/apache-2.0.58-r2
=net-misc/neon-0.26.3 =app-text/wv-1.2.3-r1 =sys-apps/hal-0.5.9-r1
=dev-util/kdevelop-3.3.5 =media-gfx/graphviz-2.12
=net-irc/xchat-2.8.2-r1 =dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.73
=dev-libs/apr-util-1.2.8 =dev-libs/apr-util-0.9.12-r1
=sys-devel/gdb-6.6-r2 =xfce-extra/thunar-volman-0.1.2
=xfce-extra/xarchiver-0.4.6 =xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.4.1
=xfce-extra/verve-0.3.5 .. Calculating dependencies - emerge:
there are no ebuilds to satisfy =net-irc/xchat-2.8.2-r1.



 
Details of how I got into this mess, and contents
of /etc/portage/package.keywords and /etc/make.conf follow.


On running 
--
eix-sync
emerge -uDNav world
I got problems that indicated that libexpat.so.0 could not be loaded.

So I ran 

emerge -uDNav XML-Parser 
which indicated that XML-Parser was up to date

So I next ran 
-
revdep-rebuild

which produced the output:
Evaluating package order...
Warning: Failed to resolve package order.
Will merge in random order!
Possible reasons:
- An ebuild is no longer in the portage tree.
- An ebuild is masked, use /etc/portage/packages.keyword
  and/or /etc/portage/package.unmask to unmask it
. done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.5_order)


All prepared. Starting rebuild...
emerge --oneshot  =x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.37.6-r1
=sys-block/gparted-0.3.3 =app-cdr/k3b-1.0.2 =app-pda/jpilot-0.99.7-r1
=xfce-base/orage-4.4.1 =xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.4.1-r1
=xfce-base/xfwm4-4.4.1 =xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.4.1
=xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.4.1 =media-libs/libwmf-0.2.8.4
=app-office/abiword-2.4.6 =kde-base/kcminit-3.5.3
=kde-base/khotkeys-3.5.5 =kde-base/ksmserver-3.5.5
=kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.5-r1 =kde-base/kpersonalizer-3.5.5
=kde-base/kdesu-3.5.5 =kde-base/konqueror-3.5.5
=kde-base/ksplashml-3.5.5 =kde-base/kdesdk-kioslaves-3.5.5
=kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10 =kde-base/kwin-3.5.5-r2
=kde-base/libkonq-3.5.5 =kde-base/kdialog-3.5.5
=kde-base/kreadconfig-3.5.0 =kde-base/kfind-3.5.5
=kde-base/kicker-3.5.5 =kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.5
=kde-base/kdepasswd-3.5.5 =kde-base/kdm-3.5.5-r1
=kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.5 =x11-wm/fluxbox-1.0_rc3
=media-sound/audacity-1.3.2-r1 =media-sound/vorbis-tools-1.1.1-r3
=media-sound/amarok-1.4.5-r1 =x11-libs/wxGTK-2.6.3.3
=x11-libs/vte-0.14.2 =www-servers/apache-2.0.58-r2
=net-misc/neon-0.26.3 =app-text/wv-1.2.3-r1 =sys-apps/dbus-1.0.2-r2
=sys-apps/hal-0.5.9-r1 =dev-util/kdevelop-3.3.5
=media-gfx/graphviz-2.12 =media-gfx/gimp-2.2.14 =net-irc/xchat-2.8.2-r1
=dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.73 =dev-libs/apr-util-1.2.8
=dev-libs/apr-util-0.9.12-r1 =gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.6.0
=sys-devel/gettext-0.16.1 =sys-devel/gdb-6.6-r2
=xfce-extra/thunar-volman-0.1.2 =xfce-extra/xarchiver-0.4.6
=xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.4.1 =xfce-extra/mousepad-0.2.12
=xfce-extra/verve-0.3.5 .. Calculating dependencies | emerge:
there are no ebuilds to satisfy =media-gfx/gimp-2.2.14.


Then I ran
emerge -avDuN world

This successfully built the mime package that it 

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus-binding-tool: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0:

2007-08-25 Thread Paul Gibbons

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 10:28:00 +0100
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Paul Gibbons,
 
  emerge -uDNav XML-Parser   
  which indicated that XML-Parser was up to date
 
 Up to date, but probably built against the wrong expat. Rebuild it,
 and fontconfig, then run revdep-rebuild.
 
 
Thanks for the suggestion Neil. I have run emerge --onshot on
XML-Parser and fontconfig , and then ran revdep-build but the problem
remains.

Thanks again for trying to help.

(Note : Details of how I got into this mess, and contents
of /etc/portage/package.keywords and /etc/make.conf are appended to
orignal mail in this thread of this request )

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paul-gentoo paul # emerge --oneshot XML-Parser
Calculating dependencies... done!
 Verifying ebuild Manifests...

 Emerging (1 of 1) dev-perl/XML-Parser-2.34-r1 to /
...
 Original instance of package unmerged safely.
 * Man pages are not installed for most modules now.
 * Please use perldoc instead.
 dev-perl/XML-Parser-2.34-r1 merged.

 No packages selected for removal by clean
 Auto-cleaning packages...

 No outdated packages were found on your system.
 * GNU info directory index is up-to-date.

paul-gentoo paul # emerge --oneshot fontconfig
Calculating dependencies... done!
 Verifying ebuild Manifests...

 Emerging (1 of 1) media-libs/fontconfig-2.4.2 to /
...
 Original instance of package unmerged safely.
 * Please make fontconfig configuration changes in /etc/fonts/conf.d/
 * and NOT to /etc/fonts/fonts.conf, as it will be replaced!
 * Creating global font
cache... ...  [ ok ]
 Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
 media-libs/fontconfig-2.4.2 merged.

 No packages selected for removal by clean
 Auto-cleaning packages...

 No outdated packages were found on your system.

paul-gentoo paul # revdep-rebuild
Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild

Environment mismatch from previous run, deleting temporary files...

Checking reverse dependencies...

Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by a package update
will be emerged.

Collecting system binaries and libraries... done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.1_files)

Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH... done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.2_ldpath)

Checking dynamic linking consistency...

All prepared. Starting rebuild...
emerge --oneshot  =net-misc/neon-0.26.3 =kde-base/libkonq-3.5.5
=kde-base/khotkeys-3.5.5 =kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.5
=kde-base/ksmserver-3.5.5 =kde-base/kpersonalizer-3.5.5
=kde-base/kdesu-3.5.5 =kde-base/ksplashml-3.5.5 =kde-base/kwin-3.5.5-r2
=kde-base/kreadconfig-3.5.0 =kde-base/kfind-3.5.5
=kde-base/kicker-3.5.5 =kde-base/kdepasswd-3.5.5
=kde-base/konqueror-3.5.5 =dev-libs/apr-util-1.2.8
=kde-base/kdesdk-kioslaves-3.5.5 =x11-libs/wxGTK-2.6.3.3
=xfce-extra/xarchiver-0.4.6 =xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.4.1
=kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.5 =kde-base/kdm-3.5.5-r1 =sys-devel/gdb-6.6-r2
=dev-libs/apr-util-0.9.12-r1 =media-gfx/graphviz-2.12
=www-servers/apache-2.0.58-r2 =x11-wm/fluxbox-1.0_rc3
=x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.40.4 =app-pda/jpilot-0.99.7-r1
=xfce-base/orage-4.4.1 =xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.4.1
=dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.73 =media-sound/vorbis-tools-1.1.1-r3
=media-sound/audacity-1.3.2-r1 =media-libs/libwmf-0.2.8.4
=kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10 =kde-base/kdialog-3.5.5
=app-text/wv-1.2.3-r1 =kde-base/kcminit-3.5.3 =dev-util/kdevelop-3.3.5
=app-office/abiword-2.4.6 =media-sound/amarok-1.4.5-r1
=sys-apps/hal-0.5.9-r1 =kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.5-r1
=app-cdr/k3b-1.0.2 =xfce-extra/verve-0.3.5
=xfce-extra/thunar-volman-0.1.2 

Calculating dependencies |
!!! Multiple versions within a single package slot have been 
!!! pulled into the dependency graph:

('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.7-r2', 'merge') pulled in by
  ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdialog-3.5.5', 'merge')

('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10', 'merge

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus-binding-tool: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0:

2007-08-25 Thread Paul Gibbons
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 11:54:00 +0100
Paul Gibbons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for the suggestion Neil. I have run emerge --onshot on
 XML-Parser and fontconfig , and then ran revdep-build but the problem
 remains.

Since revdep-rebuild was complaining:
('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.7-r2', 'merge') pulled in by
  ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdialog-3.5.5', 'merge')

('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10', 'merge') (no parents

I unmerged kdelibs-3.5.5-r10 and re-started revdep-rebuild...it is
still running, so here's hoping.


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Re: [gentoo-user] dbus-binding-tool: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0:

2007-08-25 Thread Paul Gibbons
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 12:38:49 +0100
Paul Gibbons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Thanks for the suggestion Neil. I have run emerge --onshot on
  XML-Parser and fontconfig , and then ran revdep-build but the
  problem remains.  
 
 Since revdep-rebuild was complaining:
 ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.7-r2', 'merge') pulled in by
   ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdialog-3.5.5', 'merge')
 
 ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10', 'merge') (no parents
 
 I unmerged kdelibs-3.5.5-r10 and re-started revdep-rebuild...it is
 still running, so here's hoping.

dbus-binding-tool now runs successfully - I will now try a emerge -vDuN
world

So the thing I hadn't tried before starting this thread was to rebuild
fontconfig as Neil suggested. 

Thanks Neil. How did you know that that was the solution?



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Re: [gentoo-user] dbus-binding-tool: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0:

2007-08-25 Thread Paul Gibbons
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 14:57:32 +0200
Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 25 August 2007 08:58:07 Paul Gibbons wrote:
  =xfce-extra/verve-0.3.5 .. Calculating dependencies |
  emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =media-gfx/gimp-2.2.14.
 
 Make sure you have the latest version of portage installed (at least
 version 2.1.2.12). Otherwise sync and upgrade portage. Then run
 revdep-rebuild with the --package-names parameter.
 
Thanks Bo 

What started all this off was a eix-sync which I believe does as you
recommend and which did upgrade to 2.1.2.12.

Anyway the solution was to re-build fontconfig as recommended by Neil
in another posting. How he knew that this needed to be done is a
subject of another reply.

Cheers again

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Re: [gentoo-user] Index to /usr/share/doc/...html... a reinvented wheel?

2007-07-06 Thread Paul Gibbons
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:19:14 -0700
Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I emerge with the doc USE flag and generally have a bunch of stuff in
 /usr/share/doc.  Most of the time it's the HTML stuff I want to read,
 but it's a annoyingly laborious to wade through unindexed
 directgories and get a browser pointing to the right thing.  So I
 wrote a little Perl script to create a top-level index.html,
 organized by package and with a bit of rudimentary pruning.  I
 bookmarked it in Firefox, and can get to things a lot faster now.  I
 like the result, and will continue to tweak it here and there.
 
 Did I just reinvent a wheel? If not, is there any point it trying to
 make this part of gentoo?  If so, how would one do that?
 
 Current script attached.
 
 Thanks for the script - it seems to create the index file fine.
However the index.html files are only readable by root. 
Is there a treat when running emerge to ensure files are readable by
others?



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Re: [gentoo-user] about grub

2007-07-05 Thread Paul Gibbons
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 19:51:10 +0800
sain yan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
   On my gentoo box, Useing grub and it work fine!
   But I`m NOT find the file menu.lst in /etc and /boot,Why???
 
 
   and I install another kernel , Then write the file menu.lst at
 /boot/grub/menu.lst,
   But Grub DON`T read it when booting,Why??
 
 
   anybody help me?   thanks!!
I had a similar issue. My boot partition contained
a /boot/grub/menu.lst with the option:

title   Gentoo-2.6.20.r8 on /dev/sdb2 - hd1,1
root(hd1,1)
kernel  /boot/bzImage-2.6.20-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/sdb6

but changes to /boot/bzImage-2.6.20-gentoo-r8 seem to have no effect.

The cause was the value for root ( (hd1,1) ) which pointed to a
different partition than the  partition mounted as / and which
held /boot. 

I had to mount hd1,1 which was /dev/sdb2 as /mnt/sdb2 and sure enough
in /mnt/sdb2/boot I found the image that was run at boot time.

I really need to tidy up my partitions!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)

2007-07-03 Thread Paul Gibbons
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:07:24 -0700
Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in
 which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the
 decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the
 remaining Gentoo users in a negative way.
 
 Is everyone still toeing that line?  The Gentoo Weekly Newsletter
 hasn't been published in almost two months.  Is Gentoo destined to be
 just another distro starved for contributors and struggling to stay up
 to date?  If so, I really misjudged it.  The meta approach of Gentoo
 is superior to any other in my mind, and I think it's growth and
 potential are being stunted by the we don't need them attitude which
 perpetuates Gentoo's lack of usability features for beginners.
 
 Gentoo needs as many users as possible to reach its potential.  It's a
 short-sighted mistake to think that non-contributing users do Gentoo
 no good.  Non-contributing users become contributors as time passes.
 Car mechanics all start as car drivers.
 
 - Grant

As an experience Windows programmer who was moving into Linux last
summer I started off with Ubuntu. The ease with which it installed
and updated itself was a big surprise and pleasure. But then
as my knowledge grew I decided to use a more demanding distro which in
my case would allow me to learn more about how a Linux system works;
and so I chose gentoo.

Sure there was a hurdle of a couple of days to get it installed but I
have not come up against any problems apart from my own lack of
experience. All in all the choice was a good one.

Gentoo appears to be very stable and the e-builds seem to be quite up
to date - although I have to use the ~amd64 keyword on most packages as
x64 support lags behind x86. 


One problem I have however is knowing how
to choose between all the different ways of doing things. I recently
tried to get the interface to my Kodak camera working and went down
several blind alleys before discovering that each actual alley was no
longer the best ways of doing things due to changes in the kernel or
new tools.

So sure on the surface things do not appear to be changing much in
gentoo but that does not mean it does not work - just that it is stable.


Paul

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