Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
On Friday 04 July 2008, Dale wrote: Sebastian Günther wrote: * Dale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [04.07.08 05:25]: Hi folks, After getting the mailing list working I did some techy shopping. I got me a new DVD burner and k3b does not like large files. I used Kbackup to create a tarball of my data. K3b gives me a error saying the file is to large. I did some googling and searched around on the forums, even posted on one thread, but I can not figure out how to get this thing to burn. Will it just not burn large files or what? How big is the tarball? # ls -lh tarball Check if you have set the Medium size correctly in K3b. Maybe you try to burn it on a CD... [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery list cdr * installed packages [I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.2 (0) [I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.6 (0) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # To be faster than Jörg: He will advise you to unmerge cdrkit and merge cdrtools, but first please look for the size of the tarball and the options set in K3b [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -vp k3b HTH Sebastian I did set it to write to the DVD. The tarball is about 4Gbs or so. It should fit on the DVD with no problems. 4GB is about the limit. Please give the exact size. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] congruant gentoo servers
On Friday 27 June 2008, James wrote: Hello, I need to deploy a (gentoo) server, on an isolated, remote network, with just a few custom applications. However, to periodically update the gentoo distro, I want to build a second (congruent) system, that can be physically swapped for update, or in the event of failure (brain-dead, I know but for now, that's a hard constraint). So I have system with identical mother boards, cpus and the same amount of ram. The size of the drives differs, but, that should not be a problem. Where to start? The both have the same profile: [9] default/linux/x86/2008.0 * The both have the same kernel/options: 2.6.24-gentoo-r8 The world files are different. One is mimimal and very close to what I want, the other needs many packages removed. Likewise the one system has a minimal make.conf file, which I like, the other is quite bloated over the years. So before I go any further, should I just set about pruning the bloated system down to match the minimal system, or go for a new install. Pruning a fat system can be very time consuming. I'd rather clone the minimalistic one. Also what else would I check and modify to ensure the systems are as close to congruent as possbile? rc-status? installed packages? file by file in /etc? Any tools or suggestions to help in this effort are much welcome. Should I just dd one (minmalistic) drive contents to the other? I'd rather tar the whole small system up and install this tarball on the other one (after adjusting partitioning, creating filesystems and such). Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
On Thursday 26 June 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Wednesday 25 June 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: This looks like the two-wire cable between the CD ROM and your soundcard is missing or loose. you don't need that cable. Really. You don't. Sure. Some software can rip tracks off the CD in the background and feed the sound subsystem with them. But it uses a lot of CPU. I rather have the cable. ;-) Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
On Wednesday 25 June 2008, Yoav Luft wrote: Hi, I posted a similar e-mail a couple of weeks ago and got no response. I wish not to spam the mailing list, only for maybe a better luck this time. My CD ROM drive had stopped playing audio CD's. It still works fine, data CD's work alright and various programs manage to gather useful information about the audio CD's tracks, but I hear nothing. I checked all controls in alsamixer to be unmuted and at reasonable volume, but it's not it. I can't rip the CD's neither. Any ideas what might be wrong? This looks like the two-wire cable between the CD ROM and your soundcard is missing or loose. I'd check this first. If this is a laptop, it might well be that the connection between the two subsystems was left out intentionally by the manufacturer to save a couple of cents. Some do that. :-( Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] firewall + dns secondary
On Saturday 21 June 2008, James wrote: Hello, I'm adding primary and secondary name servers to my small (5 static) ip network. Are there any security reasons that I should not run the secondary (Bind) name server on the firewall (iptables) directly? Well, security holes have been discovered in bind in the past - and there are no reasons to assume none will be found in the future. ;-) Once your firewall is compromised, your whole network is under threat. Though the risk is probably small, you can avoid it easily. Rund bind on one of the boxes behind your firewall. Forward port 53 from your fw to that box. Announce your FW as the secondary name server. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] the details of Council Meeting
On Sunday 08 June 2008, Chuanwen Wu wrote: Hi, On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 105 minutes were closed and 57 were open - what is 57? Minutes : what else ?! You mean the new meeting continued 105 minutes and then 57 minutes again? Minute has more meaning than just one sixtieth of an hour. In this particular case, it means records or details of a meeting. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] hardware autodetection at boot
On Thursday 29 May 2008, Pawel K wrote: I compiled the kernel with all modules: make allmodconfig make make modules_install I have udev running on my machine since more than a year. I created the following section in grub.conf: title vanilla-all-modules root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/kernel-all-modules root=/dev/hda1 The kernel is unable to mount my ext3 root filesystem. It shows the following message: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0). (hd0,0) is correct since I copied it from my daily grub section. I have ext3.ko in the following path: /lib/modules/2.6.24.3/kernel/fs/ext3/ext3.ko Could you give me some indications of how to solve this problem. The driver for the root filesystem must be built into the kernel (not as a module) unless you use an initramfs that loads the modul before the kernel/init take over. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox lock me out of my X session and X get 100% cpu usage
On Thursday 29 May 2008, Claudinei Matos wrote: Hi guys, I'm having a weird problem here. I do have an amd64 install of gentoo with KDE 4. Well my problem is that sometimes (once or more per day) when using Firefox I do click in some link or try to scroll down/up the scrollbar my system freezes. When this happen I have to remotely login via ssh and do 'kill -9 X' which in this case is consuming around 100% of cpu usage. I've already updated both kde and firefox and even tried to disable/enable render acceleration on xorg but nothing seems to help. I'm using Xinerama (nvidia + sis video boards) but this is a old install (around 1 year) and my problem just started after I've migrated to kde4. AFAIK, KDE4 4.1 has severe problems with xinerama. Can't confirm this myself because I don't use xinerama but have read about it on KDE mailing lists. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] $LINGUAS question
On Wednesday 21 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:26:58AM +0100, Mick wrote: Mine has been set to LINGUAS=en_GB el for many years now, but mplayer still shows up with scrambled characters on the terminal (aterm/rxvt). However, when rebuilt like: LINGUAS=en_US emerge -DV mplayer no more scrambled messages! This tells me that mplayer's translations are partial to the particular LINGUAS flags and probably affected by what character sets your terminal can show. I have also found that when LINGUAS is set to multiple values, emerge -pv sorts them when it shwos what it would do: # LINGUAS=en_US en_GB en emerge -pv --nospinner mozilla-firefox-bin These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! [ebuild U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-bin-3.0_rc1 [3.0_beta5-r1] USE=-restrict-javascript LINGUAS=en en_GB en_US 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 upgrade), Size of downloads: 0 kB Whether or not this reported order is what it actually uses, I don't know and don't know how to find out. Does it matter in which order languages are emerged? Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] libmad.la missing
On Wednesday 14 May 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch, 14. Mai 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, libmad-0.2.1 doens't install libmad.la. Programs linking to it fail during link stage. Is it a known issue? there is no 'libmad-0.2.1' on my system. It's weird. libmad-0.15.1b-r5 installs as libmad-0.2.1. From the emerge output: Merging media-libs/libmad-0.15.1b-r5 to / --- /usr/ --- /usr/lib/ /usr/lib/libmad.so - libmad.so.0.2.1 --- /usr/lib/pkgconfig/ /usr/lib/pkgconfig/mad.pc /usr/lib/libmad.a /usr/lib/libmad.so.0.2.1 /usr/lib/libmad.so.0 - libmad.so.0.2.1 And indeed: uwix uwe # ls -l /usr/lib/libmad* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 101062 May 15 09:10 /usr/lib/libmad.a lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 May 15 09:10 /usr/lib/libmad.so - libmad.so.0.2.1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 May 15 09:10 /usr/lib/libmad.so.0 - libmad.so.0.2.1 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 91472 May 15 09:10 /usr/lib/libmad.so.0.2.1 Still, no libmad.la. ??? Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] libmad.la missing
On Thursday 15 May 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag, 15. Mai 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: On Wednesday 14 May 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch, 14. Mai 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, libmad-0.2.1 doens't install libmad.la. Programs linking to it fail during link stage. Is it a known issue? there is no 'libmad-0.2.1' on my system. It's weird. libmad-0.15.1b-r5 installs as libmad-0.2.1. From the emerge output: Merging media-libs/libmad-0.15.1b-r5 to / --- /usr/ --- /usr/lib/ /usr/lib/libmad.so - libmad.so.0.2.1 --- /usr/lib/pkgconfig/ /usr/lib/pkgconfig/mad.pc /usr/lib/libmad.a /usr/lib/libmad.so.0.2.1 /usr/lib/libmad.so.0 - libmad.so.0.2.1 And indeed: uwix uwe # ls -l /usr/lib/libmad* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 101062 May 15 09:10 /usr/lib/libmad.a lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 May 15 09:10 /usr/lib/libmad.so - libmad.so.0.2.1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 May 15 09:10 /usr/lib/libmad.so.0 - libmad.so.0.2.1 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 91472 May 15 09:10 /usr/lib/libmad.so.0.2.1 Still, no libmad.la. hm, you are right. But revdep-rebuilt should solve that problem. Not by creating the la file but by rebuilding the apps needing it. How? If the build system of a package uses libtool and insists on the existence of this la file, revdep-rebuild wouldn't help. Actually I tried to re-emerge failing package with --oneshot (not different from what revdep-rebuild does) and it failed again due to the missing la. I could, of course, write the la file myself. In the end, it is just a text file describing some properties of the liberary. But that seems a very hackish work-around. I don't want to do a revdep-rebuild right now because I have a half-baked update. And from my POV, it wouldn't help at all. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Nice level for X11
On Tuesday 13 May 2008, Andrey Falko wrote: On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 13 May 2008, Abraham Gyorgy wrote: Hello guys, in which configuration file can I set a nice level for X11? (this makes all graphical software run much faster, at least when I used Debian). Nice factor for X makes graphical software run fater? I don't thinl so. Not at all. Nice factor gives X priority, so if you are compiling something and X's priority is high, you'll be using X as if nothing was being compiled. Only if you are root. As a normal user, you can only lower the priority of a process. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] libmad.la missing
Hi folks, libmad-0.2.1 doens't install libmad.la. Programs linking to it fail during link stage. Is it a known issue? Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Nice level for X11
On Tuesday 13 May 2008, Abraham Gyorgy wrote: Hello guys, in which configuration file can I set a nice level for X11? (this makes all graphical software run much faster, at least when I used Debian). Nice factor for X makes graphical software run fater? I don't thinl so. Not at all. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge-delta-webrsync fails
Hi folks, I use emerge-delta-webrsync. I get an md5 error for snapshot-20080501-20080502.patch.bz2 for a couple of days now. Anybody in the know what is going on? Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Install Windows XP on Gentoo Laptop
On Tuesday 06 May 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Alan McKinnon Piffle, that's nothing. At least your Windows installer would have given you a prompt. I don't follow Alan. The HP recovery disk boots and asks somethng like 'Do you want to restore the disk to the way it was shipped from HP? Answer no and it does nothing. Answer yes and if blows away all partitions, builds two new partitions, and puts the HP image on the disk. I don't follow what you mean? His bloody PXE server installed RH silently without ever asking anything. Jeez. It gives me ideas, though. One could do that for Linux as well. But then, Who would have their Windows laptop set to boot from the network first? Still, tempting. ;-) Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ccache results [was; checking for.....
On Saturday 03 May 2008, David Relson wrote: On Fri, 2 May 2008 07:10:02 -0400 David Relson wrote: ...[snip]... As part of identifying the capabilities and files of your operating system (distro) ./configure creates a lot of small programs and compiles them. I can see how caching compilation info would help with this. I ran a quick test with ccache and ./configure. Using bogofilter's configure script (because it was available): before installing ccache: 3 runs of ./configure averaged 6.07s ... installed ccache ... next run took 6.5 sec (slower than before) next 3 runs averaged 4.96s (18.4% better than before) All your configure runs were for the same package, right? conclusion: ccache _does_ help ./configure It does not for different packages, AFAIK. And that was the question of the OP. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ccache results [was; checking for.....
On Saturday 03 May 2008, David Relson wrote: On Sat, 3 May 2008 14:17:39 +0100 Uwe Thiem wrote: On Saturday 03 May 2008, David Relson wrote: On Fri, 2 May 2008 07:10:02 -0400 David Relson wrote: ...[snip]... As part of identifying the capabilities and files of your operating system (distro) ./configure creates a lot of small programs and compiles them. I can see how caching compilation info would help with this. I ran a quick test with ccache and ./configure. Using bogofilter's configure script (because it was available): before installing ccache: 3 runs of ./configure averaged 6.07s ... installed ccache ... next run took 6.5 sec (slower than before) next 3 runs averaged 4.96s (18.4% better than before) All your configure runs were for the same package, right? Correct. conclusion: ccache _does_ help ./configure It does not for different packages, AFAIK. And that was the question of the OP. There _should_ be some effect as there are many operations common amongst configure scripts, for example determining the name of the header file defining malloc or determining whether to use bzero or memset, etc, etc. As with any form of caching the rate of cache hits will vary depending on load and cache size. k Disclaimer: I haven't tried this out. It's all speculation. ;-) There might be a way. If you don't set ccache as FEATURE in /etc/make.conf but mv /usr/bin/ccache to /usr/local/bin/ccache. Then make the following symlinks: ln -s /usr/local/bin/ccache /usr/local/bin/gcc ln -s /usr/local/bin/ccache /usr/local/bin/g++ ln -s /usr/local/bin/ccache /usr/local/bin/cc Next step: Make sure that /usr/local/bin comes before /usr/bin in your PATH. With this setup, every identical test program generated and compiled by configure may seem to be identical for ccache. As I have said, haven't tried it. Anyway, it seems to me that more and more projects switch from autotools to cmake which is *much* faster than autotools. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] who does fire HDD led?
On Saturday 03 May 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Samstag, 3. Mai 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: Seems like hal is getting like it's namesake from *that* movie: Too bloody smart for it's own good yeah. i can't burn dvd/cd anymore thanks to hal. Every couple of seconds another 'media found' message pops up. Let's make hal taste 60,000V. That will do. ;-) Honestly, it doesn't do it here - and I did an update world just a couple of days ago. What version are you using? Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] who does fire HDD led?
On Saturday 03 May 2008, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: === On Saturday 03 May 2008, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: === Even just after boot (before login) HDD led shows that somebody polls hdd (or dvd) drive(s) every ~1-2 sec. Who is it? Where/what to config? Sorry, in spite of multiple answers I still don't know how to disable the polling :-) If Alan and Volker are right, it probably is a bug in hald or its configuration. I don't see this behaviour - but then, I did my last update world a couple of days ago. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2007.0 CD - 2008.0 install
On Friday 02 May 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 02 May 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: Before I waste a lot of time I just noticed that I'm using a 2007.0 install CD but downloading and setting up a 2008.0 beta2 system. Is there any problem building the 2008.0 system files using whatever I get when I chroot into the new installation? At this moment I'm doing the tar xjf portage-latest step and noticed the inconsistency. Apparently all the 2007.0 snapshots, etc., are now gone from the servers. There shouldn't be a problem. Aside from the fact that a LiveCD is quite a complex thing, as far as installation goes it's sole purpose is to provide an environment where you can unpack a stage3 and chroot into it. When you have chrooted, you are essentially in a self-contained environment and all that is left of the original environment is the kernel it provides. Well, plus all running services/daemons unless you take them down after chrooting and bring them up again within the chroot. This can be a life saver. I have my portage tree on box A while box B NFS mounts it. At one stage, NFS versions of A and B got so out of sync, B couldn't NFS mount /usr/portage any more. A LiveCD with an NFS version matching (well, at least fitting) the one on box A was my path to salvation. ;-) The build system is provided entirely by the chroot and nothing in user space can come from or be influenced by what's outside it (this is the entire point of chroot). This, of course, is absolutely true. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] -fomit-frame-pointer switch
On Thursday 01 May 2008, James wrote: Hello, On an amd64, If I want to add -fomit-frame-pointer to a system's CFLAGS setting, I can just add it and eventually all of the executables will be recompile (willing to wait) or do I have to rebuild system (all packages) or such to switch? No need to rebuild the whole system. One-by-one is fine. A lot of packages set it anyway. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] checking for.....
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 01 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the middle of doing a major upgrade from very old pkgs to current 2008 and compiling lots and lots of stuff. Seeing that line `checking for WHATEVER' go by 486,211 times so far makes me wonder if there wouldn't be someway to cache all those answers somewhere so whatever test is done for each line could be dispensed with for most of them. Probably would need more than 2-3 compiles to have all but rare ones answered. Some items really check a lot of things. I think it would be a major time saver when discussing huge numbers of compiles. You are expecting autoconf to actually do something sane when it runs??? Har har. You must be new here. :-) That problem has been discussed about 486,212 times and solved about 0 times. Fortunately, more packages go over to cmake. Just a matter of time. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2008 15:13:27 -0400, Brandon Mintern wrote: I was mostly responding to Neil Bothwick's implication (even if it was sarcastic) that using vim indicates bad things. Implication? I obviously wasn't clear enough ;-) You were very clear. Some time ago, I offered you a Hansa Draught for some help if you ever happened to come to Windhoek. That offer is void now, and I'll drink the pint myself. Traitor! Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] strange blocks b behavior
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 30 April 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: USE=doc adds extra documentation, usually API information for programmers, which is why it is rarely needed globally. The doc flag increases the dependencies of some packages, sometimes massively. Thanks Neil, thanks a lot for mentioning that. Now I have horrifying images burned into my brain of doxygen, openjade, SGML and DTDs lumbering out of holes in the ground and slithering towards me, zombie-like, hell bent on devouring me whole and consigning my soul to oblivion. USE=doc is truly the stuff of which nightmares are made. It isn't all that bad. I have doc enabled globally. Yes, some packages take a while longer - but then, in most cases I want the documentation anyway. I haven't been haunted by this so far. ;-) /me lumbers off in search of mind-altering substances with depressant side-effects Just watch TV for a while. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] strange blocks b behavior
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 30 April 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: /me lumbers off in search of mind-altering substances with depressant side-effects Just watch TV for a while. Yeah right :-) 4 possibilities: SABC 1 SABC 2 SABC 3 eTV Which would you recommend? Well, I can't watch any of them. From what judging from what I know, any will do. ;-) Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage nfs permissions
On Monday 28 April 2008, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 12:03 -0500, Chris Frederick wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to set up the portage directory to be hosted over nfs. Everything is working great but I would like to increase the security a little. I was wondering if there's an easy way to restrict 'emerge --sync' to only work on the server, while still letting all the nfs client machines download sources and emerge packages. Have clients only mount portage read-only and put distfiles in another fs and make it read-write. Yes, this should work. I have got just one question: How does disabling emerge --sync from NFS clients improve security? Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Very old machine blocking/update questions
On Friday 25 April 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 26 April 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks Alan, Sorry for top posting. I noticed these very old machine have only 8GB drives in them. Looks like I'm actually going to replace the drives and then do new installs from scratch. 8G drives!! Wow, that comes from the previous millenium I still have a DEC Alpha 500 with 3 x 4GB SCSI drives standing around here. ;-) It doesn't do anything, and I should have thrown it way long ago. But at one point in the development cycle of KDE 1, it was the fastest box within the KDE community. Somehow I can't bring myself to dump it. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mktemp dependency problems
On Saturday 26 April 2008, Ralf Stephan wrote: Hello, recently sys-apps/mktemp is blocking coreutils even in x86. mktemp is needed by baselayout, debianutils and a2ps. As a2ps is optional and newer baselayout (~x86) version no longer require mktemp, that leaves debianutils requiring mktemp, even in ~x86 versions. Mktemp is now part of coreutils. Unmerge mktemp, emerge coreutils, and you are set. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Doubt about FLAG use
On Thursday 24 April 2008, Net Warrior wrote: Well, after all I'm confused after reading the thread. Should I use this or not ? *USE=-ipv6 -ftp emerge -av mplayer* No. Rather put it in /etc/portage/package.use. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kolab questions
On Wednesday 23 April 2008, James wrote: Hello, I just found this page: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/kolab/ Groupware is the general category. My questions are: Has anyone installed this and if so how do you like it? Lng time ago. ;-) Would one run a traditionally sendmail/postfix server and then serve mail/data to the this Kolab groupware server? Being able to serve mail/data to a variety of client PC would be great. Kolab is a full replacement for Outlook/Exchange based on IMAP and LDAP. Unfortunately, it can be a real bitch to set up. Once it works, it keeps working. If you want Outlook to use all features like shared calendaring and such, you need a commercial plugin for each client. :-( See also: http://www.kolab.org/ Follow the link for kolab-client. Disclaimer: My experience with it is very outdated. Things may have changed meanwhile. Another not-so-far-away path to groupware in mixed environments: KDE 4.1 (June/July 2008) will be released for Linux and other UNIX-like OSS systems *and* OSX and Windows. By the time it is released, install kmail/kontact on *all* clients regardless of the operating system, enable Groupware and voila - you have got it. Just a couple of months away. ;-) Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Messed up - how do I emerge coreutils once coreutils is gone?
On Saturday 19 April 2008, Justin wrote: Why are you doing things without knowing about the consequences? Always ask before you are doing things which could be stupid!!! You know, shit happens. It shouldn't but it does. Like you aren't really paying attention being sidetracked, and the shit hits the fan. Happens.To all of us. Unless you are one of those who never make mistakes, never get sidetracked, never pay less than 100% attention, never assume where you are actually supposed to know,... The list goes on. The OP had a knee jerk reaction, did what had seemed insane on second thougt but didn't spent such. It happens. He actually axplained how it happened. That's human. Did you never make dire mistakes? Well, if you haven't you may keep throwing stones in a glasshouse. For the OP: There was a long thread about this just last week. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] mesa / 3d driver for openchrome
Hi folks, according to the mesa web site, mesa-7.0.2 contains a 3d driver for openchrome. Unfortunately, the ebuild knows only about a very limited number of video cards, openchrome not amoung them. How can I convince it to compile the openchrome 3d driver? Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown] another dead email address
On Wednesday 16 April 2008, Eric Martin wrote: Original Message Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:39:13 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] The original message was received at 2008-04-16 12:35:26 -0500 from postoffice.(null) [10.0.0.1] ~ - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ -Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to postoffice.(null).: | RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown Has anybody else who recently posted to the list gotten an email bounce for a [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nope but since it is an unknown or illegal alias rather than an unknown user, I'd venture the guess it's a temporary configuration error. Before taking drastic measures like kicking him off the list, I'd advise to wait a day or two. They might get it fixed. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Iain Buchanan wrote: I think it just means gtk-doc-am wants a newer gtk-doc, so it's blocking the one you have installed. You need to uninstall gtk-doc, and then you can install a newer gtk-doc and gtk-doc-am. It works. Thanks! But I don't understand why. Emerge clearly said that gtk-doc-am blocked gtk-doc, not the other way round. Uh, well... Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Iain Buchanan wrote: gtk-doc-am _does_ block gtk-doc. Since you already have gtk-doc installed, gtk-doc-am couldn't go ahead. Often with a blocker, you don't have the blockee already installed. ie. blocker-pkg blocks blockee-pkg, and both are required by other ebuilds... I must be extraordinarily dense these days. I don't get it. How can a non-installed package block an installed one? Somehow this doesn't want to penetrate my skull. :-( Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008, 14:08, Alan McKinnon wrote: In any event, when portage says A blocks B your options and always only: - unmerge B and optionally remerge or upgrade it later - do not use A I have always resolved A blocks B problems by unmerging A. After that, portage was not complaining anymore, and B emerged fine. Or at least, that's what I think I did :-) That was what I did as well in the past. Didn't work this time because I couldn't unmerge A because it apparently wasn't installed yet. Obviously Alan was right because all went well after I unmerged B. The problem remains that I am pretty sure I will draw the same conclusion next time this happens. Well, I will read Alans explanation another couple of times. Maybe enlightenment will eventual strike me. ;-) Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Migrating servers to a new box
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Michael Sullivan wrote: This morning my server box died (power supply problem I think). You didn't mean it, did you? Sending an email just short of 1MB to a mailing list. Please tell me you made a silly mistake. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VQF deprecated?
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Mateusz A. Mierzwiński wrote: Multiple parse errors. :-( Didn't get at all what you were trying to say. Please don't get me wrong. I know your mother tongue isn't English, neither is mine. You have got one thing to keep in mind: If your command of the language you are writing in isn't top notch you better adhere to a couple of rules: - Phrase things as simply as possible. Avoid complicated sentences. - Don't be sarcastic. Sarcasm gets lost and so does the *content* of your post. - Don't try to be funny. It doesn't come across if you don't know how to be funny in a foreign language. - Be as straight forward as possible. Even if you sound rude (people will give you credit for expressing yourself in a language you haven't grown up with), that's far better than sounding gibberish. Native speakers on this lists can try to be funny/ironic/sarcastic. People like you and I better use simple English. I am *not* saying you can't express yourself. You most probably can in Polish. Couldn't resist to rant a wee bit here. So for balacing it off: Peace, love, sunshine, good beer and single malt! Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] X (i810) won't start with undefined symbol
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Grant wrote: When I try to start Xorg, the exa module unloads with undefined symbol: fbGlyph8 and then i810 unloads with undefined symbol: exaDriverFini. Can anyone tell me how to fix this? (II) LoadModule: exa (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so: undefined symbol: fbGlyph8 (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so (II) UnloadModule: exa (EE) Failed to load module exa (loader failed, 7) (II) LoadModule: i810 (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so: undefined symbol: exaDriverFini (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so (II) UnloadModule: i810 What does revdep-rebuild say? Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found
Hi folks, emerge --update world tells me: [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me: --- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge. So let's be more specific: emerge --unmerge =dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10 tells me: --- Couldn't find '=dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10' to unmerge. Now what? Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: local caching DNS?
On Wednesday 09 April 2008, 7v5w7go9ub0o wrote: Ralf Stephan wrote: Hello, I'm fed up with waiting for ever the same name requests from my browser (and open servers don't cut it either): which DNS cache or caching DNS for simple local installation would you recommend? consider maradns http://www.maradns.org/changelog.html - It is a recursive dns client/server (and authoritative server if desired), described in Portage as Proxy DNS server with permanent caching. Wiht permanent caching? If it really does this, not honouring TTLs, it's crap. That said, I actually don't know whether they mean permanent when they say permanent. ;-) Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found
On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Dale wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, emerge --update world tells me: [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me: --- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge. So let's be more specific: emerge --unmerge =dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10 tells me: --- Couldn't find '=dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10' to unmerge. Now what? Uwe Equery list gtk-doc and see what it says is installed. It may not be that exact version. Ran into something similar a while back. uwix uwe # equery list gtk-doc-am [ Searching for package 'gtk-doc-am' in all categories among: ] * installed packages uwix uwe # equery list gtk-doc [ Searching for package 'gtk-doc' in all categories among: ] * installed packages [I--] [ ] dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2 (0) gtk-doc-1.8-r2 is the package that gets blocked, it isn't installed yet.. More interesting is that the first equery didn't list anything, but the gtk-doc-am ebuild exists: uwix uwe # ls /usr/portage/dev-util/gtk-doc-am ChangeLog Manifest gtk-doc-am-1.10.ebuild metadata.xml G. Wanted to let a long compile sesses run overnight - and now this! Conspiracies. All around me. Against my innocent self. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] network question
On Saturday 05 April 2008, ionut cucu wrote: I had a buddy in my lan with whom I shared files and such. But recently our campus network management decided to give our my dorm building another external ip, and put a firewall( I think) between us. So now instead of both of us having the same 141.85.0.75 I now have 141.85.0.76. So my question is, being a n00b and all, what can I use in order to restore the direct connection? I asked my only physical present network admin but apparently his only role is pugin computers in switches and give us an ip so he doesn't know nothing. I did a nmap on the gateway but I've only found 53/tcp open. I wouldn't wanna revert to skype or other 3rd party computers since, I guess, it will segnificantlly lower our transfer speeds, requier bothe our presence...etc. So what way should I be heading here? Any advice is welcome!Thanks! If only 53 is open, you are pretty much out of luck except for two possible solutions: 1. The social solution You grab a huge bag of gummy bears, carry them to your real network administrator and ask him to poke a hole for you and your buddy into the firewalls. 2. The technical solution You get a box completely outside your compus's network into which both of you can ssh. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror Go menu - missing items
On Thursday 03 April 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 11:52:41 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Are we talking about the same thing? I mean the top half, it contains Back, Forward and Up items, as well as System:/, Trash:/, various removable media and fish/ssh/smb sessions I was using my Desktop when I answered before, now I'm using my laptop and most of my Go menu has disappeared too, the first item is History. Although I am using KDE 3.5, this laptop does have KDE 4 installed, whereas the desktop does not. I know you've dabbled in KDE 4 too, so I wonder if that could be a factor. I am on 4.0.2 (though 3.5.9 is installed - just not used at the moment) but my menu entries are there. All of them. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ERROR: cannot start sshd as net.eth0 could not start
On Thursday 03 April 2008, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: Hi, The Subject line explains the issue No, it does not. It does explain that sshd cannot start because your network isn't up. Now you have to find out why the network doesn't get started. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror Go menu - missing items
On Thursday 03 April 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 03 April 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: Basically, it is the history of your browsing. *You* populate it by browsing different sites. Are we talking about the same thing? I mean the top half, it contains Back, Forward and Up items, as well as System:/, Trash:/, various removable media and fish/ssh/smb sessions Ahem. No, we are not talking about the same thing. ;-) But I can see from your other reply that you have already found something to get your hands dirty. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror Go menu - missing items
On Thursday 03 April 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 13:33:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On your machine that still works, can you looksee what is in ~/kde3.5/share/apps/konqueor/konquerorrc under the section for the Go menu? Mine looks like such: Menu name=go textamp;Go/text !-- go_up, go_back, go_forward, go_home: coming from ui_standards.rc -- Merge/ Action name=go_history / Action name=go_most_often / Separator/ Action name=history / Action name=closedtabs / /Menu It's konqueror.rc here, but the file is definitely different to yours: I neither have a ~/.kde3.5/share/apps/konquerorrc nor a ~/.kde3.5/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc. I do have a ~/.kde3.5/share/config/konquerorrc but it doesn't contain any Menu name=go section. Hm... Weird. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror Go menu - missing items
On Thursday 03 April 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 03 April 2008, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Thursday 03 April 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On your machine that still works, can you looksee what is in ~/kde3.5/share/apps/konqueor/konquerorrc under the section for the Go menu? Mine looks like such: snip This is mine: snip Well that certainly fixed it - thanks Peter! Next question I suppose is what changed the config in the first place? Good question! I have no idea. and does kde supply some tool to modify application menus? Not to my knowledge. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror Go menu - missing items
On Thursday 03 April 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 03 April 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 13:33:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On your machine that still works, can you looksee what is in ~/kde3.5/share/apps/konqueor/konquerorrc under the section for the Go menu? Mine looks like such: snip It's konqueror.rc here, but the file is definitely different to yours: snip Oops. Filename typo on my part :-) So that makes 2 of us now, and we both fiddled with kde-4 just before. Time for a bug report at kde methinks. Uwe, you also use kde-4. What do you now have in your ~/kde3.5/share/apps/konqueor/konqueror.rc? I don't have such a file, neither under ~/.kde3.5 not under ~/.kde4.0. See my other mail. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror Go menu - missing items
On Wednesday 02 April 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 02 April 2008, Crayon Shin Chan wrote: On Wednesday 02 April 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: Short question: What determines how the Go menu in Konqueror is populated? have you fiddled with: right-click (on the taskbar menu button) - [Panel Menu] - [Configure Panel] - [Menus] Thanks for answering, only one so far? That's for the K-menu, I'm looking to populate Go on Konqueror's menu bar, which is something else entirely. Anyone know? Or is my question so way out there that no-one knows? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com Basically, it is the history of your browsing. *You* populate it by browsing different sites. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: rhythmbox plays silently
On Monday 31 March 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote: Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 Mar 2008, at 06:47, Michael Schmarck wrote: ... In your world, an aggressor is doing nothing wrong? Do I understand that right? ... Get real. When you're describing someone who has annoyed you on the Internet as an aggressor it probably means you need to take a break for a while How else would you describe Alan in his first post in the thread? Troll? Would that fit better? Hello, people! Calm down, will you? Michael, if you scan past posts by Alan, you will find out that he is full of jokes - good ones and some not so good. He is neither aan aggressor, nor a troll. Just full of - sometimes weird - humour. He was pulling your leg; that's different from trolling. Now, please put this to rest and get real again. ;-) Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot compile gcc-3.3.6-r1 using gcc-4.2.3
On Sunday 30 March 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 30 March 2008, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: I suppose I'm not the only one here who has it proven to him at least once a day just how little he actually knows? ... :-) Nope you are not. ;-) Sometimes this happens to me more than once a day. o_O Dale, Somehow I just knew you'd be first to reply :-) Ironically, right now I'm preparing to deliver a Red Hat training course tomorrow. I *think* I know enough to pull it off now, I had lots of practise the last 30 times! I have been a professional Linux/UNIX system and network administrator for more years than I care to remember. Still, there are those moments when I do incredibly stupid things - while I am not bone tired, drunk or have fallen in love just then. Happens. Fortunately, not too often. I am with the two of you. ;-) Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage/firewall
On Thursday 27 March 2008, Gavin Seddon wrote: Hello, I have inst. gtoo on a workstation at work. But portage complains '-14:24:52-- ftp://cudlug.cudenver.edu/pub/mirrors/distributions/gentoo/distfile s/gcc-3.3.6-patches-1.4.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/gcc-3.3.6-patches-1.4.tar.bz2' Resolving cudlug.cudenver.edu... 132.194.22.137 Connecting to cudlug.cudenver.edu|132.194.22.137|:21... failed: Network is unreachable. Downloading 'ftp://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/os/linux/gentoo/distfiles/gcc-3.3.6-p atches-1.4.tar.bz2' --14:24:52-- ftp://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/os/linux/gentoo/distfiles/gcc-3.3.6-pa tches-1.4.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/gcc-3.3.6-patches-1.4.tar.bz2' Resolving ftp.snt.utwente.nl... 130.89.175.1, 2001:610:1908:8000::175:1 Connecting to ftp.snt.utwente.nl|130.89.175.1|:21... failed: Network is unreachable. Connecting to ftp.snt.utwente.nl|2001:610:1908:8000::175:1|:21...' This may be a 'medicine dept' firewall. I cannot ask Them to alter it. Will someone help pls? Gavin. Do you use a proxy for normal browsing? If so, you can set the proxy in /etc/wgetrc. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Static mod_perl with apache2
On Thursday 27 March 2008, Mario Ignacio Rodríguez Cortés wrote: Hi list: The situation is the next, i'm trying to install mod_perl as a static module with apache2, What is a static module?Something like a female stallion? Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage/firewall
On Thursday 27 March 2008, Florian Philipp wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 17:55 +0200, Elyahou ITTAH wrote: If your proxy don't let ftp pass, use torify Please try to avoid doing this with large packages. Tor is a distributed net built by volunteers. Flooding it with large downloads is neither nice nor fast. I'd say, try http. Jeez. You didn't read the original posting, did you? It's FTP, period. I still advise to set the proxy in /etc/wgetrc. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] virusses on Linux [was: Re: Boot Gentoo to clean windows]
On Thursday 27 March 2008, Florian Philipp wrote: This is getting OT but I still want to ask: Is it really necessary to run an anti-virus on linux? I just want to hear some opinions on that topic because I thought security fixes for your software are the way to go for fighting virae on linux. FWIW: I have been using Linux workstations for over 10 years now without any virus protection. Not a single accident. On the other hand, if you run a Linux server (say a mail server) for a mixed environment you definitely want a virus scanner on your server to protect your Windows clients. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password
On Wednesday 26 March 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Dienstag, 25. März 2008 schrieb ext Uwe Thiem: Yes, and it isn't necessary. You lock your servers away so that nobody has physical access to them. What if you sell them or give them back (leased machines)? Do you erase your discs beforehand. Depends on the content of the disks. If it is sensitive, I wipe them (not just rm or mkfs). But then, this problem has never occurred to me. I don't lease servers, nor do I sell them. Usually, my servers aren't sellable by the time I can't use them any more. ;-) Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] problem with 2 partition installation from gentoo minimal system
On Wednesday 26 March 2008, Fei Liu wrote: Hello Group, I spend a whole day trying to get this to work. Here is my setup /dev/sda1 / ext3 noatime 0 1 /dev/sda2 swap grub is installed using the 'root (hd0,0)' and 'setup (hd0)', no problem. emerge kernel-sources worked fine. However everytime the system boots, it reports the VFS panic (no root system found problem). The kernel has built in ext2 and ext3 support. The error hint is to supply root option during boot, but my boot command is this kernel /boot/kernel root=/dev/sda1 Please post your whole grub config. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] openchrome, xvmc and mplayer
On Wednesday 26 March 2008, Marc Blumentritt wrote: Hi, I just read on this list, that the x11 driver openchrome for via chipsets hit the tree. Does anyone know, if mplayer in portage tree is patched to work with openchrome and xvmc? It doesn't need to be patched. Just emerge it with xvmc and use the the right vo. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] openchrome in portage
Hi folks, xf86-video-openchrome is now in portage. So there is no need to keep the overlay. I deleted it and removed the source line in /etc/make.conf. I have the following line in make.conf: VIDEO_CARDS=openchrome via Now I get this: uwix ~ # emerge --pretend --verbose xorg-server These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.4.0.90-r3 USE=dri hal ipv6 sdl xorg -3dfx -debug -dmx -kdrive -minimal (-nptl) -xprint INPUT_DEVICES=evdev keyboard mouse -acecad -aiptek -calcomp -citron -digitaledge -dmc -dynapro -elo2300 -elographics -fpit -hyperpen -jamstudio -joystick-magellan -microtouch -mutouch -palmax -penmount -spaceorb -summa -synaptics -tek4957 -ur98 -vmmouse -void -wacom VIDEO_CARDS=via -amd -apm-ark -chips -cirrus -cyrix -dummy -epson -fbdev -fglrx -glint -i128 -i740 -i810 (-impact) -imstt -mach64 -mga -neomagic (-newport) -nsc -nv -nvidia -r128 -radeon -rendition -s3 -s3virge -savage -siliconmotion -sis -sisusb (-sunbw2) (-suncg14) (-suncg3) (-suncg6) (-sunffb) (-sunleo) (-suntcx) -tdfx -tga -trident -tseng -v4l -vermilion -vesa -vga -vmware -voodoo -xgi (-openchrome%*) 0 kB Why on earth is it excluding openchrome? Uh, I am on ~x86, so this is not the problem. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] openchrome in portage
On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: Why on earth is it excluding openchrome? Because the xorg-server ebuild does not support openchrome. yet. Just add openchrome to world until it does Well, didn't look into the ebuild. You are right. Now, why and how did it work with the overlay? I know nothing about that overlay, so I'm just guessing. Perhaps the overlay had a patched xorg-server? The openchrome tarball from the overlay is identical to the one in portage. Actually, the overlay was just moved into portage I guess. Anyway, any patch in the overlay tarball must then also be in the portage one. Alright, I stop here. It's just something puzzling me - and I don't like that without understanding it. ;-) BTW, KDE4 is far smoother now. Animations are faster. Still, no shiny composite effects of KDE without crashing the whole session. Guess, I have to ask the openchrome folks whether they have any ETA for this. Another thing is that the latest MESA release is quite old. They used to have a new release every 2 - 3 months. This might be related as well. Unfortunately, they don't have any kind of roadmap on their web site. So one doesn't know when to expect a new version. Yes, I know: Get a decent video subsystem. Not that easy. The Intel chips (most probably enough for my purpose) only reside on mobos. ATI drivers are in the process of catching up and will probably be there in six or so months' time - but they aren't now. Nvidia, yes nvidia. Would rather try to avoid them. So not too many options for me short of throwing the whole mobo out. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password
On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Grant wrote: On a notebook, there isn't an OS in existence that is immune to a LiveCD. Linux is. In the sense that you can't get at the data if the disc is encrypted, even not with a LiveCD. You can only destroy/overwrite it. Yes, I realised that when typing the original, but left it as is - too many IF conditionals would be needed to be accurate and English is almost useless at getting IFs to parse correctly :-) Passwords come from a time when users had terminals that log onto machines that are somewhere else and the user can't lay a finger on them. Things have indeed changed since 1978 Would the type of filesystem encryption you guys are talking about be unsuitable for a high-traffic server because of performance considerations? Yes, and it isn't necessary. You lock your servers away so that nobody has physical access to them. It's only interesting for workstations, laptops and external storage devices. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] crontab entry
On Monday 24 March 2008, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Peter Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Monday 24 March 2008 10:19:25 Collin Starkweather wrote:
... you left a '' out of your rsync call. It's fixed below.
His version is exactly the same as yours, apart from layout. I
suggest that
the '' at the beginning of a line has confused your mail reader.
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Hi Collin
I have two scripts file
one is http://pastebin.com/m263e6f3c and
http://pastebin.com/m175098db.
The requirement is run http://pastebin.com/m175098db script once
the below line succeeds in the http://pastebin.com/m263e6f3c
if /usr/bin/rsync -av /var/lib/mysql host77:/var/lib/
/tmp/rsync-${TIMESTAMP}.log 21
then
/usr/bin/mailx -s Success: host77 DB refresh daily
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /tmp/rsync-${TIMESTAMP}.log
I am not able to proceed
Make that last line:
cat /tmp/rsync-${TIMESTAMP}.log | mailx -s blablabla...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password
On Monday 24 March 2008, Grant wrote: I've revived an old Gentoo laptop, but I've forgotten the root password. I remember the password to my user account and I can log in there fine. Can I recover the root password? If you could passwords were useless. ;-) But you can boot from a LiveCD, mount your harddrive, chroot and then give root another password. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux Basic commands to begin with
On Wednesday 19 March 2008, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: hi can i have a list of Gentoo Linux basic commands to start with Basic commands for what? If Linux in general, google for bash. Read any of the introductions. If Gentoo-specific stuff, read the manual. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NEURAL NET SOFTWARE
On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Gavin Seddon wrote: HI DOES ANYONE KNOW OF GOOD TRAINABLE NN SOFTWARE ON PORTAGE? First of all, don't shout at us! AFAIK, snns is a very good OSS implementation - and it's in portage. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage problem
On Saturday 15 March 2008, Chuck Robey wrote: It's certainly an aid, at least the bottom part (like i'd said, I;d foound several different Gentoo docs giving me descriptions of what slots are, so I knew that, just that there seem to be no docs anywhere I can locate IN Gentoo that tell you HOW to use slots. So, now I know that the parens signal the slot info, but how do I choose them, select one over anther, adn even to search for them in emerge? *Sigh* You are still confusing things here. There are two completely different cases. Let's first look at an enduser package like KDE. Basically, there are two active slots at the moment: KDE 3.5 and KDE 4.0. Which one you use you can decide at the login screen under session. If, on the other hand, you want to get rid of 3.5, you unmerge it (not recommended yet). With unslotted packages, older ones get automatically deleted when you emerge a new one. With slotted packages, it's left to you to decide to get rid of an older one. There are other packages not of interest for endusers but necessary for emerging other packages. For example the autotools automake and autoconf. They are slotted as well. You better be *very* careful when unmerging one slot. Emerging one package needs version X of these tools, another version Y, and yet another one version Z. The packages to be emerged decide themselves which version of automake or autoconf they need. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4 - KDialog - DBUS
On Thursday 13 March 2008, cypherstrong wrote: Hi, KDE change dcop for dbus The problem is that dcop it's really easy to use, but dbus ... Go to: http://techbase.kde.org/ and search for DBUS. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: I have 3.5 as monolithic and 4.0 meta. What concerns me is that adding xcomposite will not re-emerge anything from 4.0 - and there is where I need/want it. OK, I see what you mean. Try this hacked-together list instead: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/portage/kde-base $ cd /var/portage/kde-base/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/portage/kde-base $ grep -ir composite * | grep '4.0' | grep ebuild | cut -f1 -d: | sort | uniq kdebase/kdebase-4.0.1.ebuild kdelibs/kdelibs-4.0.1-r1.ebuild kdelibs/kdelibs-4.0.2.ebuild krunner/krunner-4.0.1-r1.ebuild krunner/krunner-4.0.2.ebuild kwin/kwin-4.0.1.ebuild kwin/kwin-4.0.2.ebuild libtaskmanager/libtaskmanager-4.0.1.ebuild libtaskmanager/libtaskmanager-4.0.2.ebuild plasma/plasma-4.0.1.ebuild plasma/plasma-4.0.2.ebuild Short version: kdelibs krunner kwin libtaskmanager plasma Actually I did that meanwhile. Unfortunately, it doesn't help insofar as the whole session crashes the moment I switch on Enable Desktop Effects and apply it. I then sit in front of kdm again. Can't log in, though; it immediately crashes again. Had to log in on a text console and edit ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc manually. Whine! Cry! This must be an international conspiracy to prevent uncle Uwe from using all these shiny new things in KDE4. Grrr. rage Who is behind this conspiracy? Step forward! I have a big potjie [1] and a big plot suitable for a big fire. Have you ever seen one of those jokes about missionaries in Africa? That is going to happen to you. For sure! /rage Uwe [1] Cast iron pot with three legs. -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: Short version: kdelibs krunner kwin libtaskmanager plasma Actually I did that meanwhile. Unfortunately, it doesn't help insofar as the whole session crashes the moment I switch on Enable Desktop Effects and apply it. I then sit in front of kdm again. Can't log in, though; it immediately crashes again. Had to log in on a text console and edit ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc manually. Oh dear. works for me here, but I have a bog-standard 1280x800 onboard intel card... Anything in the xorg logs? Nothing revealing. I guess my problem is this: My video subsystem is a VIA UniChrome Pro IGP. I got an X driver for it from www.openchrome.org which doesn't seem to work properly with my IGP version of the chipset. :-( Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:51:42 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: I guess my problem is this: My video subsystem is a VIA UniChrome Pro IGP. I got an X driver for it from www.openchrome.org which doesn't seem to work properly with my IGP version of the chipset. :-( Which version of the driver are you using? I have an IGP chipset and use x11-drivers/xf86-video-openchrome-0.2.901 from the Sabayon overlay. I tried 0.2.2 from portage and an svn checkout from openchrome.org. Same result in both cases. Hm... 0.2.901 is working correctly? With composite switched on? Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: My video subsystem is a VIA UniChrome Pro IGP. Aaahh. Say no more. I can get you good deals on Dell kit. Interested? What do you mean by Dell kit? A whole rig? A DIY kit where I have smolder little black bugs with lots of legs on a card? ;-) Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:15:45 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: Which version of the driver are you using? I have an IGP chipset and use x11-drivers/xf86-video-openchrome-0.2.901 from the Sabayon overlay. I tried 0.2.2 from portage and an svn checkout from openchrome.org. I can't see openchrome in portage.http://www.tectonic.co.za/http://www.tectonic.co.za/ Go to x11-drivers/xf86-video-via. Look into the ebuilds. It actually is openchrome. At least I think it is. I'm not using composite, it's a MythTV frontend, but I am using all the accelerationy bits. It's a lot more stable than the svn build I used to use. Uh-huh! Without actually using composite in KDE, it is working here as well. Anyway, I tried 0.2.901. No joy. I have had it for today. Have rebooted so often, I feel like using the other OS. ;-) Tomorrow I'll be too busy (have got the holy duty to feed myself). I will probably give it another try coming weekend. Unmerge the whole of KDE 4.0.2 and re-emerge it again. Maybe, I missed one small bit when recompiling stuff, though I can't think of with one. Recompiled everything in KDE that has the USE flag xcomposite plus kdelibs, although they don't don't listen to xcomposite. If I'll succeed somehow I'll report back here. If not, well, I'll give up on the whole thing, stay without the effects in KDE and wait for the Easter Bunny to provide me with a decent video card. ;-) Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:07:06 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: I tried 0.2.2 from portage and an svn checkout from openchrome.org. I can't see openchrome in portage.http://www.tectonic.co.za/http://www.tectonic.co.za/ Go to x11-drivers/xf86-video-via. Look into the ebuilds. It actually is openchrome. At least I think it is. That looks like Unichrome, the package from which openchrome was forked to add 3D acceleration. The version number, 0.2.2, looks like openchrome to me. Anyway, the last release from openchrome.org didn't work for me either. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo
On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Dale wrote: I would love to build a rig with two dual core CPUs, 4 cores in all. Compile times would be pretty short. ;-) Woo Ooo. You and everybody else. Plus tons of ram, 1TB storage and a good graphics subsystem. Yeah! Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo
On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: I also see that kde-4.0.2 just hit portage, complete with 345M of sources to be downloaded. It's compiling here right now. On two boxes using distcc. BTW, you can reduce the downloads by a large margin using deltup. The other lads in the office here think I am completely and utterly mentally defective to want to run Gentoo. I think I'm starting to see why they might think that evil_grin The gentoo community is slowly growing here in Namibia - since the introduction of ADSL. ;-) Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo
On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: KDE 3 is known for its long build times. Thanks to the new build system, KDE 4 builds orders of magnitude faster (kdelibs 4 build takes way less than an hour on my Core 2 Duo laptop, while kdelibs 3 takes more than 3 hours). Oh, oh, oh. 1 hour vs. 3 hours isn't orders of magnitude. Even in binary, it would only be 1 oder of magnitude. ;-) Otherwise, I agree, cmake is much faster than autotools. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo
On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:29:59 +0100 (CET), Kristian Poul Herkild wrote: Make it 2 TB - 1 TB is not enough. But what a machine to compile OO.o with... not bad, ehh? *drooling* Forget compiling OOo, that machine would be fast enough to run it ;-) Indead, forget about compile time of OOo. It will use only one core. :-( Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo
On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Dale wrote:
Uwe Thiem wrote:
BTW, you can reduce the downloads by a large margin using deltup.
Uwe
Dial-up user reporting in here. What is this feature you speak
of here? How does this work?
Instead of downloading the whole tarball of a new version of a
package, it downloads a delta between the latest old version and the
new version (kind of diff). It then produces the new tarball locally
from the old one and the delta.
Simply emerge deltup and add the following line to
your /etc/make.conf:
FETCHCOMMAND=/usr/bin/getdelta.sh \${URI}
It can reduce your downloads by up to 95% depending on how much the
new tarballs differs from the old one.
And now the downside:
1.
It doesn't help you when you emerge a new package for the first time.
2.
At times, it simply doesn't work. It will then fall back to
downloading the whole tarball.
Give it a try. If it doesn't suit you, you can simple delete the line
above from make.conf.
Uwe
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[gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
Hi folks, I emerged KDE 4.0.2 without composite in my xorg. Meanwhile I have found out how to enable composite (and 2D and 3D acceleration) with my graphics chipset. Now I'd like to re-compile KDE with composite enabled. Anybody in the know *what* parts of KDE I have to re-emerge? (Wouldn't like to do the whole thing.) Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, I emerged KDE 4.0.2 without composite in my xorg. Meanwhile I have found out how to enable composite (and 2D and 3D acceleration) with my graphics chipset. Now I'd like to re-compile KDE with composite enabled. Anybody in the know *what* parts of KDE I have to re-emerge? (Wouldn't like to do the whole thing.) set xcomposite in USE. It'll rebuild a couple of things: nazgul ~ # equery hasuse xcomposite [ Searching for USE flag xcomposite in all categories among: ] * installed packages [I--] [ ~] kde-base/kicker-3.5.9 (3.5) [I--] [ ~] kde-base/kwin-3.5.9 (3.5) [I--] [ ~] kde-base/kwin-4.0.1 (kde-4) [I--] [ ~] kde-base/plasma-4.0.1 (kde-4) [I--] [ ~] kde-base/krunner-4.0.1-r1 (kde-4) [I--] [ ~] kde-base/libtaskmanager-4.0.1 (kde-4) Hm ... It will only re-emerge kdebase-3.5.9-r1 here. That doesn't seem right. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: Hello On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 09:47:51PM +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: set xcomposite in USE. It'll rebuild a couple of things: Hm ... It will only re-emerge kdebase-3.5.9-r1 here. That doesn't seem right. KDE is can be emerged in two ways ‒ monolitic (big packages) and split (many small ones). This seems you have the monolitic one, so it will reemerge only one big instead of few small ones. I have 3.5 as monolithic and 4.0 meta. What concerns me is that adding xcomposite will not re-emerge anything from 4.0 - and there is where I need/want it. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote: Here is the output of my cpuinfo, I'll point out where it will mean 64bit. For the sake of this demonstration, I have only pasted one (1) CPU. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family: 15 model : 75 model name: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ -- Here will be your first indication. 64 bit processors, weather they are SPARC, AMD or intel, must identify themselves clearly in the model name field. stepping : 2 cpu MHz : 1000.000 -- forgive this, my cpu's are idle at the moment and speedstep droped me down for the moment. cache size: 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 -- If you are a multi-core CPU, this will tell you how many cores per processor. All cores are identical, so if you have a 64-bit Dual/Quad-Core CPU, then all cores are 64bit. fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp: yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy -- you can look for flags that may give away 64bit, such as lahf_lm, lm and nx. bogomips : 2010.67 TLB size : 1024 4K pages clflush size : 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc I am a bit confused now. I always thought my CPU was 32bit. Here are the relevant two lines from my /proc/cpuinfo: model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pebs bts sync_rdtsc pni monitor ds_cpl cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm So the model name does not indicate anything 64bit while the flags contain lm, nx and lahf_lm. What gives? Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1422 (76278-76327)
On Monday 03 March 2008, Stroller wrote: On 3 Mar 2008, at 09:57, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Monday 3 March 2008, Jan Seeger wrote: NOTE: I don't speak spanish. But somehow, I read it thusly: On Mon, 03. Mar, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spammed my inbox with todos los temas relacionados con soporte técnico all technical support requests (relations?) all technical support-related issues Ok, not that it changes much... :-) N! It changes EVERYTHING!! Issue is word to describe an individual periodical in a series of publications, and is a weasel-word when it's used as a synonym for problem. You are argueing about the English translation of a Spanish word, done by someone that most probably isn't a certified translator. The word at issue (please excuse the pun) isn't issues but the Spanish word temas - and I doubt it can be described as a weasel-word in this context. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to do port-based routing?
On Monday 03 March 2008, Grant Edwards wrote: I'm trying to figure out how to do port-based routing. I found a HOWTO that does pretty much exactly what I'm trying to do: http://www.linuxhorizon.ro/iproute2.html However, it's using iptables, which I thought was deprecated, Not to my knowledge. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to use mplayer play file online?
On Friday 29 February 2008, Chuanwen Wu wrote: Meanwhile, just download the file and play it. What's the problem with that? To view the whole thing from beginning to end all that data would still have to move from the server to your local machine anyway. But I can save the time of downing the file and when I want to watch any movie, I don't need to wait. You can start the download and start mplayer on the (incompletely) downloaded file. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Renaming tons of files
On Wednesday 27 February 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: /me thinks it's time to remember that only livestock are supposed to get Foot and Mouth disease, not geeks sheepish grin People (including geeks) can get it as well. It's hard but possible to get infected. Sieve the spores out of your soil. Then inhale *lots* of them. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Tweak nice
On Sunday 24 February 2008, Florian Philipp wrote: Hi! I noticed a very annoying behavior. I've got a headless server (Athlon 64 X2) which primarily acts as a personal video recorder using mencoder and at-daemon. In its idle-time it's supposed to run a dnet-client. Then I've got a laptop (64bit Celeron, single core) on which I play those video files from my server over NFS. So far, so good. My problem is: Neither of them can handle recording/playing video while there is any background activity. That means I have to stop the dnet-daemon and suspend any emerges on my laptop. If I don't, both mencoder and mplayer loose sync of audio and video and drops frames. By dnet-daemon you mean dnetc, right? If you run dnetc with nice 19 and simultaneously something that uses as much CPU as it can get (like a fractals generator) at nice 0, you will see that dnetc still uses around 6% CPU. But it does go down to 6%. The remaining CPU should be enough for watching video. Disclaimer: I have never used mplayer on a 64bit system. It might have issues there. Since you are playing the video over NFS you do so over the network. Maybe a stupid question: You do use FastEthernet without any hub, right? Switches are alright but hubs are evil. A possiible work around might be to increase the buffer in mplayer to something around 1MB. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Tweak nice
On Sunday 24 February 2008, Florian Philipp wrote: Since nobody seems to have an idea, maybe someone can tell me how I allow processes with real-time priority (nice -n -20) to be started by an ordinary user? Of course I'm aware of sudo but I don't want a simple media encoder to have super-user permissions. You can start normally as a user and re-nice it immediately afterwards as root. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS changes
On Thursday 21 February 2008, James wrote: Hello, Current CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe I want to add -fomit-frame-pointer to my CFLAGS on an existing system that has been running for months. Is this safe or do I have to rebuild everything with somelike emerge -e ? It's safe. Of course, it takes effect only on newly compiled packages. I think the build systems of most packes set it anyway. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [nb] How to change permission on this
On Saturday 16 February 2008, Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:22:19 -0800, Brian Marshall wrote: I have a lot of dir. and files in my home directory. I want to chown all of it to my user. How to do this by one comand ? Thanks With recursion: chown -R user:group * That won't cover hidden files, try chown -R user: ~user Neil, What does the ~ make it do different? Got me curious about that. Change user only for those files that have a different one. Avoids unnecessary writes. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux, reiserfs and file fragmentation
On Friday 15 February 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 15 February 2008, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 14 February 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: That aside, how would gaps *between* files ever translate into fragmentation unless the author of that particular piece of software managed to kill his very last brain cell? Oops. I had a brain fart there. You two are so funny. Thank you. We try to please :-) I second that. Africa makes you so. I mean funny and trying to please. ;-) I found this too: http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/products/oodefrag/ Seems someone is trying to make money. I have also read that most Linux file systems do this automatically somehow. After doing my test, I tend to agree. So why have a commercial product for this? Is it just money? Yeah, pretty much just money. Microsoft's business model is to trap the market, never perform at any level higher than mediocrity, and create an ecosystem that needs thousands of support apps just to keep the OS limping along. Then shaft all of them with vendor-lockin Coping with file fragmentation has to be one of the easiest algorithms around, it isn't even hard. Write a file, and look to see how the blocks are distributed. If it can be improved, then do so. Otherwise leave it as is But then again, if you have written a file system so that everything is just mushed onto the same device, all higeldypigeldy with no sane structure at all ... then I suppose you would need stuff like defrag to come along once a week and save your ass :-) Back in the days when I still used DOS, one certainly wanted to defragment periodically. The system became significantly more performant for a while. On Linux/Unix, I never bothered. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] undelete files and dirs on ext3 partition
On Friday 15 February 2008, pat wrote: On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:41:28 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote Neil, you are a master of understatement :-) pat, it might be possible to get some stuff back, IF he remounted ro immediately and IF not much writing to the disk happened in the meantime. However, by the time you are done it is usually not worth the effort it took. It's easier to reinstall and restore backups. But if there are some irreplaceable files on that disk, you have no choice. good luck to him. There's a home directory ... . What do you mean, Pat? /home still exists and is populated? Then the solution is easy. Back it up immediately. Re-install your whole system and restore /home. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ext4 status - Alternative to ext2/3 for gentoo portage and more
On Friday 15 February 2008, Aaron Clark wrote: xfs: high performance, especially when dealing with many large or small files; Gets along very well with raid arrays. Noticeably higher cpu usage than ext3/jfs. IIRC, it aggressively caches its writes so there is a slight possibility of data loss if your power goes out suddenly in the middle of a series of writes (I consider this a very small possibility, it is journalled like the other fs's on this list so the filesystem will still come up in a consistent state, you just may be missing some of the data you were writing). Very good online tools support provided with it. Sigh. So many myths about journalled filesystems, so little time to squash them. ;-) First of all, you are contradicting yourself. First you say you think the possibility of data loss is slight, then you state at the end that some data loss may occur. The second part is right. Data losses are possible. Journalled filesystems do not prevent this. They deal with filesystem consistency. Second, no journalled filesystem in the whole wide world can prevent occurences of inconsisteny in case of a power cut. None, try as they might. Please commit the last two sentences to permanent memory. The reason for this isn't the cache in your computer's ram but the cache in modern harddrives. If the journal change still resides in the harddrive cache while your power cut occurs, bm - inconsistency. There is nothing a filesystem - journalled or not - can do about it. If you are really concerned about data loss and filesystem inconsistencies, use a good journalled fs *and* a small UPS that can shut your box down gracefully in case of a power cut. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux, reiserfs and file fragmentation
On Thursday 14 February 2008, Thomas Kahle wrote: Hi, my 2 cents: | So if for example I copied everything over to a different hard | drive and then copied everything back, it would be defragmented | then? I think so yes, but still I would not do it as I think you will hardly notice the difference, but there is a good chance to screw things up. Yes, everything will be defragmented. In addition, it will leave gaps between files. So if a file lateron grows it will not immediately fragment. | I would think of something like this: | | Boot some live CD. | Mount old and backup drives. | Copy old drive to a backup drive using cp -av yada yada. Its very important to do this as root and preserve all the file permissions and symbolic links exactly as they are on the drive. In particular the backup file system must support all this. (You cannot backup to a FAT file system, etc.) the cp option -b could help, but surely you should read man cp and man mount The easiest way to preserve all permissions and symlinks is to use tar instead of cp. If you do so, read man tar of course. | The biggest slow down by the way is when logging into KDE the | first time. It takes a long while and that drive is just a | getting it. The light just stays on while loading everything up. I personally think this is not due to fragmentation. On loading KDE just preloads some big libraries (it is a big program :) and this takes some time. Furthermore the libraries are loaded with LD_BIND_NOW=true, which makes the linker resolve all the symbols when KDE starts. (KDE takes longer to load, but later the programs are loaded faster). You can google for that to learn what it means. There are two ways to speed up KDE load time. First, prelink everything (something like prelink -avmR). Second, you can configure kdm to preload as much of KDE as possible. So while you are still staring at your login screen or typing your user name and password, it loads as much as it can. BTW, KDE 4 starts significantly faster than 3.5. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux, reiserfs and file fragmentation
On Thursday 14 February 2008, Dale wrote: I did a little test. Something fishy here. I did a test with the /data partition. I store pictures and documents there and it was fragmented. I cp -av to another reiserfs formatted partition then remade the file system and copied it back using basically the same command just in reverse. This is what I got now: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # /root/fragck.pl /data/ 3.88457269700333% non contiguous files, 1.04344379261138 average fragments. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # That is not a lot better than it was before. It was 4.6% before. How is that? I copied it over then ran the command right after without even touching the files. Before you copy back, you have to clean the old partition - either by deleting everything or by partioning it. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux, reiserfs and file fragmentation
On Thursday 14 February 2008, Dale wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: On Thursday 14 February 2008, Dale wrote: I did a little test. Something fishy here. I did a test with the /data partition. I store pictures and documents there and it was fragmented. I cp -av to another reiserfs formatted partition then remade the file system and copied it back using basically the same command just in reverse. This is what I got now: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # /root/fragck.pl /data/ 3.88457269700333% non contiguous files, 1.04344379261138 average fragments. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # That is not a lot better than it was before. It was 4.6% before. How is that? I copied it over then ran the command right after without even touching the files. Before you copy back, you have to clean the old partition - either by deleting everything or by partioning it. Uwe I just did a mkreiserfs /dev/hdb1. That should work right? Actually, I meant by formatting it instead of partioning. So yes, that should work. Maybe fragch.pl is simply buggy. Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux, reiserfs and file fragmentation
On Thursday 14 February 2008, Dale wrote: Now I remember why I stopped using prelink: The only maintenance required is re-running prelink every time a library is upgraded for a pre-linked executable. I only prelink after major updates. Never had any problems in between. I knew there was a reason I stopped. I never could remember to run it after I finished emerging stuff. It was a thought tho. Leave the a option ou, and it prelinks only stuff that needs prelinking. You can force automatic prelinking in /etc/conf.d/prelink. Uwe Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux, reiserfs and file fragmentation
On Thursday 14 February 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 14 February 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: Yes, everything will be defragmented. In addition, it will leave gaps between files. So if a file lateron grows it will not immediately fragment. Which will cause a stupid script to report fragmentation if the author does not understand file system structure... One can assume any level stupidness of writer of little perl scripts. ;-) That aside, how would gaps *between* files ever translate into fragmentation unless the author of that particular piece of software managed to kill his very last brain cell? Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
