Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading gcc: both 4.4 and 4.5 needed?
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 07:41:21PM +, James wrote:
Now, why can't the USE descriptions be like the kernel option
descriptions and have something like what Pandu wrote included?
I added this to root's .bashrc a long time ago:
# USE flag settings hack by Ciaran McCreesh:
explainuseflag(){ sed -ne s,^\([^ ]*:\)\?$1 - ,,p $(portageq
portdir)/profiles/use.{,local.}desc; }
alias ef=explainuseflag
Then simply use the alias for a quick check to learn about all the different
uses of a given flag:
'ef graphite'
# ef graphite
Enable support for non-Roman fonts via media-gfx/graphite2
Enable support for non-Roman fonts via media-gfx/graphite2
Add support for the framework for loop optimizations based on a polyhedral
intermediate representation
Then drill down into the a specific package's use flag meaning, using the
aforementioned 'equery u' delineated by Albert.
You people seem to miss my point. I know perfectly well how to find
the USE descriptions. It is just that the USE description, in this
case (as in many others) isn't terribly useful.
Add support for the framework for loop optimizations based on a
polyhedral intermediate representation means absolutely gibberish to
me.
But if one were to add an additional one or two lines a la Pandu,
about how it is supposed to make gcc-4.5.3 use a newer method to
detect parallelism, thus (potentially) makes programs compiled by gcc
to have better multithreaded performance and perhaps even a Kernel
help page style It is mostly stable. If unsure, say Yes.
It would be ever so much more helpful for people who would like to
find out what new flags do before deciding whether or not to follow
the default recommended by the devs which are set into the profile.
(I'm not saying this type of hand holding is necessary for all flags:
enable support for non-Roman fonts via media-gfx/graphite2 is
perfectly understandable, as are most other flags about features a
user is likely to interact with. But for some of the more system
type flags (see also that python/perl flag business from the recent
months), I think the USE descriptions can stand some improvement.)
W
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Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire
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Re: [gentoo-user] why can't use print after installed CUPS ?
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 04:17:11PM +0800, 俞强 wrote: thanks for you reply, yes, i compile cups just by hand, and i compared with the files you send, though you cups version is 1.4.8, but i think the compare result is also value. most of files are the same as mine, but my libs are installed in /usr/lib64, not in /usr/lib. btw, my hadrware is ARMv7(omap3730). Most likely than not that is because your programs are not compiled with printing support? ~ $ euse -i cups global use flags (searching: cups) [+ CD ] cups - Add support for CUPS (Common Unix Printing System) cups - Add support for CUPS (Common Unix Printing System) ~ $ equery hasuse cups * Searching for USE flag cups ... [IP-] [ ] app-text/epdfview-0.1.8:0 [IP-] [ ] app-text/ghostscript-gpl-9.04-r4:0 [IP-] [ ] gnome-base/libgnomeprint-2.18.8:2.2 [IP-] [ ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.8-r1:2 [IP-] [ ] x11-libs/gtk+-3.2.2-r1:3 [I-O] [ ] x11-libs/qt-gui-4.7.4:4 Judging by the fact that you installed cups by hand and portage didn't want to install its own version of cups, I'd say more likely than not you have the cups flag disabled. What you can try to do (if you don't want to use the in portage cups ebuild) is to (a) enable the cups flag (b) edit the /etc/portage/profile/package.provided file to include cups. (See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3chap=5 ) This may or may not work, but is worth a try if you insist on not using the standard ebuild. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading gcc: both 4.4 and 4.5 needed?
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 03:29:27PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: what does graphite add ? It makes gcc-4.5.3 use a newer method to detect parallelism, thus (potentially) makes programs compiled by gcc to have better multithreaded performance. Now, why can't the USE descriptions be like the kernel option descriptions and have something like what Pandu wrote included? W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] java java everywhere
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 08:07:43PM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: To find out why portage wants the JDK, run `emerge -pv --depclean virtual/jdk`. Repeat until you find @world or something looking familiar. I bet you have LibreOffice installed with USE=java. There is an old thread from earlier this year which describes what functionality you loose when you deactivate that flag. All things considered, though, I think it will be faster to install a JDK than to re-emerge LibreOffice with USE=-java. Heh, you guess wrong :p I actually just have virtual/jdk in world (I can't remember why I didn't use virtual/jre instead) because of some binaries-only, non-portage stuff I run. What caught me off-guard was the fact that the upgrade did not offer the -bin option. (Which, as I mentioned in a different branch of this thread, you helped me figure out why.) Thank you again for all the help, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] bash date puzzle
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 06:13:34AM -0500, Philip Webb wrote:
alias th='date -d @$1'
was the first try, then adding '+' /or '\' to escape '+' or '@'.
I also tried a function along similar lines.
That is not how you use alias.
What you want is to use a function. Replace the alias line by
function th { date -d @$1; }
in your bashrc you'l probably be ok.
W
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Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire
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Re: [gentoo-user] java java everywhere
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:01:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: (i) What is icedtea-web? If you had actually clicked on the homepage link in the emerge -s output you posted, you would have seen in the very first bullet point right at the start of the page that icedtea-web is mostly Java Web Start The problem is: that doesn't help me at all. What the heck is Web Start? The corporate-lese at http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/tech/index-jsp-136112.html doesn't really tell me why or whether I need it. (iv) Do I really need to have so many different java things on my computer? Do you need to have so many different browsers on your computer? How about editors? Or for that matter why do you have so many coding languages available? How about openoffice? It's not so many, that's a ridiculous assertion. First you have a choice between iced-tea built from source or a bin package. Firefox and OOo do the same. Then there's icedtea-web which is a whole different package altogether, implementing Java Web Start (which is not the java language, the sdk or a jvm). So, if you want Java as implemented by iced-tea, pick between source and -bin. If you want JWS, then emerge that too. Did you even attempt to google this and find answers yourself? Did you read my question? The problem is not that so many JDKs are available. The problem is why does portage want to install them all? (Scroll up to the top of my message and see the emerge --update output which wants to SLOT all three of icedtea, icedtea-bin, icedtea-web.) So cut the snark, Alan. To spell out the question for you more clearly: Why does portage want to install ALL three kinds of icedteas, when all I really need is a JRE? Is there some subtle differences between the three such that I must have all three available? Is the 6-7 major version update one which they significantly changed the API so things start breaking left and right? rant I have two GCCs on my computer because some legacy code won't build with GCC4. I have both perl and python for the obvious reasons. I've long exorcised Emacs because I never use it and prefer Vim. So I do know a thing or two about this choice business in FOSS. What I don't know (as I admitted so much in the first sentence of my original post) is Java. I don't code in it. I don't (to the best of my knowledge) have any packages installed via portage that has code written in Java. All I need is a JRE to look at some applets on the internet and run a couple pre-compiled Java applications on my desktop. It may be that I somehow acquired a need for a JDK and I forgot, I don't know, but why is it that portage wants to installed two JDKS and on top of that some web-based JRE at the same time? /rant W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] java java everywhere
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:00:51AM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote:
Well, while Willie picks himself up after being slammed like this (Had
bad day, Alan?), I might add that the only reason why portage wants to
emerge icedtea and icedtea-bin is that apparently virtual/jre:1.7 has
been keyworded. On a stable system, this should not happen. At least for
me, it still reads
KEYWORDS=~amd64 ~x86
And the only thing that satisfies virtual/j{dk,re}:1.7 right now is the
oracle-jdk binaries and icedtea-7...
The list of RDEPENDS for jdk and jre 1.7 is surprisingly short
compared to that of the 1.6 version. I guess I'll just ignore that
update for now and wait for the -bin version [1]
[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=388917
Thanks, Florian, for hinting me to the right direction,
W
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Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire
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[gentoo-user] java java everywhere
Hi list, I've not been keeping up with the developments in the Java world, and now am getting a bit confused. Currently my computer is using the icedtea jdk, in fact, I am running icedtea-bin-1.10.4. Today, portage wants to [ebuild U ] dev-java/icedtea-bin-6.1.10.4 [1.10.4] [ebuild N ] sys-apps/attr-2.4.46-r1 USE=nls -static-libs [ebuild NS] virtual/jre-1.7.0 [1.6.0] [ebuild N ] dev-java/icedtea-7.2.0-r1 USE=nsplugin -debug -doc -examples -jamvm -javascript -pulseaudio -systemtap -webstart -zero [ebuild NS] virtual/jdk-1.7.0 [1.6.0] [ebuild N ] dev-java/icedtea-web-1.1.3-r7 USE=nsplugin -build -doc And apparently I have many different choices of icedtea: * dev-java/icedtea Latest version available: 7.2.0-r1 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of files: 65,904 kB Homepage: http://icedtea.classpath.org Description: A harness to build OpenJDK using Free Software build tools and dependencies License: Apache-1.1 Apache-2.0 GPL-1 GPL-2 GPL-2-with-linking-exception LGPL-2 MPL-1.0 MPL-1.1 public-domain W3C * dev-java/icedtea-bin Latest version available: 6.1.10.4 Latest version installed: 1.10.4 Size of files: 36,173 kB Homepage: http://icedtea.classpath.org Description: A Gentoo-made binary build of the Icedtea6 JDK License: GPL-2-with-linking-exception * dev-java/icedtea-web Latest version available: 1.1.3-r7 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of files: 791 kB Homepage: http://icedtea.classpath.org Description: FOSS Java browser plugin and Web Start implementation License: GPL-2 GPL-2-with-linking-exception LGPL-2 I figure that icedtea-bin is the binary version of icedtea, but (i) What is icedtea-web? (ii) Why the version jump from 1.10.4 to 6.1.10.4? (iii) Why is the -bin one major version behind icedtee? (iv) Do I really need to have so many different java things on my computer? Thanks, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
[gentoo-user] Combining multiple pointer devices into one
Hi list, When I look at /dev/input I see the devices mice, mouse0, mouse1, mouse2, mouse3. The first one, mice, seems to be a combination of all other mouse devices. On the console I want to use gpm to get a pointer, but gpm can only take one MOUSEDEV entry at a time (as far as I know), so currently I have it set on /dev/input/mice. Ideally, however, I only want to use mouse0 and mouse2 on the console (mouse1 is actually a touchscreen and its output is junk from the point of view of the ps2 driver, and actually causes problems). How does one create, using udev, an input device that aggregates just the data from mouse0 and mouse2? Thanks, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Combining multiple pointer devices into one
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 09:57:10AM +, James Broadhead wrote: On 31 October 2011 09:13, Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu wrote: When I look at /dev/input I see the devices mice, mouse0, mouse1, mouse2, mouse3. The first one, mice, seems to be a combination of all other mouse devices. On the console I want to use gpm to get a pointer, but gpm can only take one MOUSEDEV entry at a time (as far as I know), so currently I have it set on /dev/input/mice. Ideally, however, I only want to use mouse0 and mouse2 on the console (mouse1 is actually a touchscreen and its output is junk from the point of view of the ps2 driver, and actually causes problems). How does one create, using udev, an input device that aggregates just the data from mouse0 and mouse2? Do you mean for X, or a /dev/ node for gpm ? Like /dev/input/most_mice ? For the first, this is configurable in xorg.conf. No clue about the second. The second. Like you said, in xorg.conf I can select multiple pointer devices, so there's no need to worry about X (and in fact the X events driver is capable of dealing with the touchscreen). So yes, I would like something in the spirit of /dev/input/all_but_one_mice. Thanks W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] portage wants to remove less and nano
On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 11:15:33AM +0200, Niccolò Belli wrote: Il 06/10/2011 23:09, David Abbott ha scritto: To see your default editor and pager; eselect editor list eselect pager list It's strange, there was no defaults editor and pager... laptop ~ # eselect editor list eselect pager list Available targets for the EDITOR variable: [1] /bin/nano [2] /usr/bin/ex [3] /usr/bin/vi [ ] (free form) Available targets for the PAGER variable: [1] /bin/more [2] /usr/bin/less [ ] (free form) Most likely you've never set them. Use 'eselect editor set X' where X is 1 for nano, 2 for ex, and 3 for vi etc. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem build gconf
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 02:15:34PM +0200, 4k3nd0 wrote: i put the build log into pastbin: http://pastebin.com/CXEFY342 What is the version of pango you have installed? It may be related to this bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384779 W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] pstree for modules ?
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 09:42:09AM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: You could still create a tree, but only by making most modules appear multiple times. Just like the '--tree' option for 'emerge' W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
[gentoo-user] texlive-2011 upgrade headsup
Hi list, Just a minor glitch I ran into in upgrading texlive-2010 to texlive-2011, I am not sure how reproducible this is, so I am posting it here instead of filing a bug, just in case someone else runs into the same problem. It is likely that this problem won't occur at all for those not using the cjk option. Problem: When issuing 'emerge --update texlive', the emerge chokes on the package 'dev-texlive/texlive-latex'. Checking the logs reveal that during compile it tries to load 'loadhyphen-zh-latn.tex' which does not exist on the system. Solution: 'emerge --oneshot texlive-langcjk' first. One of the config file updates with the 2011 version of that package changes the filename to load to 'loadhypher-zh-latn-pinyin.tex', which does exist on the system. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?
On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 12:10:25AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Though it is silly IMHO that portage would want to remove itself with depclean. Could it not be hardcoded into portage that it should try to keep itself updated and not commit suicide? (Independently of the @system sets.) What about replacing portage with paludis? In your scenario, portage could not do that. emerge paludis and then use paludis to remove portage? W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 01:38:58PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: It's sensible really - portage is not the only package manager out there and therefore should not be in @system. The user did not put portage in world, and did not use -D, so portage is not updating the package. The solution is simple - all users should put their preferred package manager into world and what Stroller is seeing will stop happening. Zac can't force portage into system like he could with less and nano and have few or non side-effects. A virtual package manager only says that you *have* one, not *which* one. So as usual for Gentoo, the user gets to tell the software which one it is. I don't see a problem. Though it is silly IMHO that portage would want to remove itself with depclean. Could it not be hardcoded into portage that it should try to keep itself updated and not commit suicide? (Independently of the @system sets.) W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] X Freezes With Firefox on Many Post 2.6.38 Kernels
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 06:37:24PM -0500, Dale wrote: Pardon me. My brain passed gas here. lol Could it be that my drives file system has ran out of inodes or whatever they are called? That usually won't throw a kernel panic. That usually just gives an error. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel panics and more info
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 09:45:07AM -0500, Dale wrote: YoYo Siska wrote: I guess it starts to download it to a temp file, than moves it to the file you choose (never looked into it)... so the problem would be most likely in that operation.. I just find it downright odd that a browser causes a panic because of a download when other programs, like emerge, can download just fine. Dale, what YoYo meant was precisely that: emerge gets files using wget (unless you configured it otherwise) which writes directly to the directory, whereas Firefox would first download something to (I guess) /tmp and (according to YoYo) write it to the correct name/directory once you give it to the browser. So YoYo is suspecting that it is this move of the file from /tmp (or whereever) to your download directory that is giving the kernel panic. BTW, you mentioned that this happened after a power-outage. Have you completely checked your disks and filesystem's health? W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 06:52:12AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: A complete reboot like that might be software jumping to the wrong address but, if so, it seems to me that it's more likely caused by how you've built the machine and not the software itself having a bug. If this is a continuation of Dale's previous problems, it is most likely that the reboot is caused by him having enabled the kernel option to reboot on panic. The question then is, what is causing the kernel to panic? W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 01:46:08AM -0500, Dale wrote: Joshua Murphy wrote: gdb is the GNU Debugger. As for the usability of strace in your case, if you can see the last few calls before the lock-up occurs, it could help narrow things down a bit. Also, if you SSH into the machine and run firefox through strace via that (drawing to the machine's local screen, not the SSH client's), you will have anything it can give in a workable form, even after the system hangs. You might also test whether it crashes while running Firefox via SSH and drawing to a different machine, which (if it does) would allow you to sit on a real terminal on the main system and see the kernel's output in the instant of the crash or (if it doesn't) would narrow it down to X being a key factor. I'm like Peanut on the Jeff Dunham comedy skit. Take your hand and go over your head and say whsh. I better wait on a fix because I may break more than I learn. O_O I second what Joshua says. It can help narrow down the cause. One question: when Firefox causes the panic, does the Firefox window appear, or does it not? If not, then it would cover up the terminal emulator your are running `strace firefox` from, so you can still copy down the few lines of output. What Joshua is suggesting is to give your machine another way to show its outputs. So take another box (a laptop or a desktop on your LAN) and SSH into your problem box. (1) Starting Firefox from the remote box. i. On your problem box, open up console and issue `xhost +` (eh... you probably want to be behind a firewall when you do this) ii. ssh from your other box to the problem box iii. issue now, in the ssh terminal `export DISPLAY=:0` iv. issue `strace firefox` This should let you start firefox on your problem box while having the strace output sent to your other box. Maybe you'd be able to see something there. (2) Starting Firefox remotely. There are two versions of this. (a) Run firefox on problem box. i. ssh from your other box to the problem box, with the `-Y` option set to allow X forwarding ii. run `firefox` from the SSH console (this should run firefox on the problem box and have it draw the display on your other box; if this doesn't cause your problem box to lock up, it should tell us something. What exactly I am not sure) (b) Run firefox on other box. i. ssh from your problem box to the other box, again with the `-Y` option to allow X forwarding ii. run `firefox` from the SSH console (if this doesn't crash, then it is likely something funny with your local firefox; if it does crash, then something real strange is going on) Can you report on those experiments? Good luck, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] net-print/hplip-3.11.5 compile fails
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 01:40:06PM +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: +*hplip-3.11.5-r1 (19 Jun 2011) + + 19 Jun 2011; Daniel Pielmeier bil...@gentoo.org +hplip-3.11.5-r1.ebuild, + +files/hplip-3.11.5-cups-1.5.patch: + Fix build with cups-1.5, thanks to Dale for the report on the gentoo-user + mailing list. Well now that I am aware of it, the issue is known. One of the many reasons I love gentoo. Thanks Daniel. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] crontab not executing
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 08:39:00PM +1000, Adam Carter wrote: /bin/sh is a symlink to bash. Which runs as sh when run from the symlink. I dont understand. runs as usually means runs under the user context to me - are you saying bash has an sh compatibility mode? Yes, from the bash man page: If bash is invoked with the name sh, it tries to mimic the startup behavior of historical versions of sh as closely as possible, while conforming to the POSIX standard as well. When invoked as an interac‐ tive login shell, or a non-interactive shell with the --login option, it first attempts to read and execute commands from /etc/profile and ~/.profile, in that order. The --noprofile option may be used to inhibit this behavior. When invoked as an interactive shell with the name sh, bash looks for the variable ENV, expands its value if it is defined, and uses the expanded value as the name of a file to read and execute. Since a shell invoked as sh does not attempt to read and exe‐ cute commands from any other startup files, the --rcfile option has no effect. A non-interactive shell invoked with the name sh does not attempt to read any other startup files. When invoked as sh, bash enters posix mode after the startup files are read. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] mutt: Tagging on the contents of mails
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 08:01:00AM -0400, Todd Goodman wrote: Yes, Dale, I tried that before. T tage mail matching a pattern does not what I seems to be: It matches only against the subject line. This was the reason, why I asked here... Best regards, mcc Hi mcc, What are you using for a pattern? If I want to find pineapple anywhere in the message then I press 'T' and then '~B pineapple' There are lots of other '~' selectors. I use ~f quite often to find mail from a specific address. If you want space you need to escape them or enclose the whole pattern in quotes. The applicable manual page is this: http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-4.html#patterns W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] is a nice place :-D
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 01:33:39AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
grep GET /Tmp/Linux/G | /var/log/apache2/access_log | grep-v myip | \
awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq | wc
In true grand Unix tradition you cannot get quicker, dirtier or more
effective
than that
You can replace sort | uniq by sort -u
And the Grand Unix Tradition probably would 'cut' instead of awk :)
While you are at it, an incantation that pipes grep to awk? Seriously?
W
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Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire
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Re: [gentoo-user] site:www.gentoo.org (compile phase)...die econf failed
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 02:24:12AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Googling above or similar is getting me nothing useful: 70% non-English pages, and of the remainder, 90% questions without answers (from forums.gentoo.org), and of those with answers, answers specific to packages bearing no apparent relationship to those failing to emerge for me. There are plenty hits for 'die econf failed' and 'ERROR:...failed (compile phase)', just nothing useful. Because that is not the real error message. That just tells you when (whether during configuration or compilation) the build failed. The actual error is a few tens of lines earlier in the display (so possibly 1 screen or 2 up in the console). Also, instead of posting the complete log on the external site (and sometimes run into access problems), it may be easier to attach a partial log to the e-mails to the forum. Something like 'tail -n 100 build.log' usually contains enough information. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] site:www.gentoo.org (compile phase)...die econf failed
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 09:14:55PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 05/15/2011 06:29 PM, Felix Miata wrote: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/G/ has system info, bash_history, and logs from my 7th attempt to install from the beginning, using http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1 as the battle plan. Among the 8 attempts, once I used the 0514 portage, twice I used the 0507 portage, and the rest I used the 0511 portage. I'm surprised I ever got a kernel, networking, and mc working on the first try, because I've been unable to get anything except kernel sources to emerge since the first attempt. Every other emerge attempt has generated either ERROR:...(compile phase)... or ERROR:...(configure phase)..., plus 'die econf failed'. At this point I have to believe there's a Gentoo bug(s) I'm hitting rather than mistakes following instructions. I've put in most of the past 5 days trying, and have to quit real soon unless I get a whole lot better help. I'm sure I've used up my quota of better efficiency just trying to get started, and need to get back to normal life soon. Purge ccache entirely from your system, it's bad news. Then `source /etc/profile env-update`. What's strange is that the emerge --info Felix linked to does not have ccache in Features. But it is timestamped earlier than the other logs... Is ccache installed? (emerge --search ccache) if yes unmerge it (emerge --unmerge ccache). And you may want to use gcc-config to reset the links to gcc. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 05:38:04AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Felix Miata composed: emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy =media-libs/libcanberra-0.4[gtk]. !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - media-libs/libcanberra-0.26 (Change USE: +gtk) (dependency required by x11-misc/notification-daemon-0.5.0 [ebuild]) (dependency required by virtual/notification-daemon-0[gnome] [ebuild]) (dependency required by x11-libs/libnotify-0.7.2 [ebuild]) (dependency required by media-video/vlc-1.1.9[libnotify] [ebuild]) (dependency required by media-libs/phonon-vlc-0.3.2 [ebuild]) (dependency required by media-libs/phonon-4.5.0[vlc] [ebuild]) (dependency required by kde-base/kdelibs-4.6.2-r3 [ebuild]) (dependency required by kde-misc/polkit-kde-kcmodules-0.98_pre20101127 [ebuild]) end screen output Is it telling me I have to change my USE from -gtk to +gtk, or can emerging one of those 8 packages listed satisfy the dep? IOW, it's unclear to me what One of the following packages actually refers to. It's telling you that you must enable USE=gtk for libcanberra for that build to succeed. The chain of packages listed won't solve the problem, they are causing it. That's what I was afraid of, a list of one followed by a genuine list. :-( Easiest is to list gtk in USE in make.conf, then everything that uses gtk will link against it. If you are worried about Gnome, this wil not cause gnome to be installed, just gtk+ Maybe someone can humor me and not go with the easiest route. Let's assume I could live without any Mozilla products or Gimp, and want a system free not just of Gnome but also of GTK. Let's say I'm deaf, and no speakers will ever be attached to the system, which has an onboard sound chip rather than a PCI sound card I could simply remove. What would it take to eliminate this apparent KDE dependence on GTK (and sound support)? How portable is a sound event library that makes KDE depend on GTK? For now, I've cut USE down to only bash-completion ncurses samba slang xattr, but it hasn't helped me to get everything I need to work outside of X. The above listing shows that phonon will be built with the vlc use flag, so clearly you haven't trimmed USE down to just bash-completion, ncurses, samba, slang, xattr. In fact, if you had done so you would've also trimmed out cxx, posix, and threads, which would probably not be the best idea. So for concreteness, can you post the complete USE list, _not_ the list in /etc/make.conf, since that does not show you the USE enabled *by default* on whichever profile you have chosen to use. To get the list of all USE flags, try emerge --info In this particular case, you can consider adding -vlc to your USE and try again. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] openrc update : locale variables are gone
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 03:41:37PM +0200, Alain DIDIERJEAN wrote: As the subject line says, all variables pertaining to locale are gone (LANG LINGUAS not set, LC_* set to POSIX). In which file are they supposed to be set these days ? /etc/env.d/02locale W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:07:33AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Does [1] default/linux/x86/10.0 from 'eselect profile list' amount to a minimal install (no X)? If so, is there any reason not to switch to it instead of setting -vlc, and then later when actually ready to enable X, switching back to kde? There's no big harm, except that you may end up rebuilding a bunch of packages. One way to get a lot of hands-on control on precisely what USE you want it via the -* flag. But be VERY careful if you are going to use it. A USE variable set in /etc/make.conf starting with it USE=-* X vim ... will use nothing but those variables (plus the package specific ones specified in /etc/portage). There are certain flags that you most likely don't want to turn off: cxx, posix, and threads for example. It is a powerful tool; which means you can also seriously hurt yourself from it. Note that the profiles are not only if things. You can still run the KDE desktop without being on the KDE profile. You should think of the profile as a default bundle that the developers think you may like if you want to use KDE. You can of course completely customise it just from the default/linux/x86/10.0 profile. So if you start your system on this profile, and build it up to your liking, there's no need to switch over to the KDE profile. What is the [7] hardened/linux/x86 profile, or better yet, the incantation to get descriptions descriptions of all the available targets? hardened is maintained by the gentoo hardened project http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/hardened/ If this is a desktop you probably don't want to use it. And SELinux you can just google to find out. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:01:20PM -0400, Indi wrote: Sounds like the old 6 of one, a half-dozen of the other to me... What makes the subtractive method better? This is how I interpret Alan's message: For certain flags when you enable it for a package you will have to also enable it for its dependencies. So you'll have to chase down the dependency tree if you enable a flag for a user package and several of the libraries it uses need the flag too, which may end up requiring doing several emerge --pretend cycles to sort out. Whereas if you subtract functionality, you usually won't have to change the libraries. (The corollary being that if you are going to remove functionality from the libraries, you should do so by globally removing the use flag, rather than on the package level.) W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 4 hard freeze
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 03:47:22PM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: Update: seems that only some keyboard input is affected. For example, arrow keys for scrolling, and typing things in text/input boxes on webpages are fine. But hotkeys interacting with Firefox, or typing in the Address bar or Search bar freezes the program. Have you tried as a different user or with a fresh Firefox profile? I wonder if it would make a difference. Hum, this morning the problem was still there. I turned off the computer. Tonight I came home, booted it up, and it is no longer a problem. I am not going to pretend I know what just happened. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
[gentoo-user] Firefox 4 hard freeze
Hi list,
I'm running into some weird problem. Firefox was upgraded to version 4
a few days ago. And up until last night I have had no problems with
it. Starting this morning, however, it seems that Firefox would freeze
up whenever I touch the keyboard with the window in focus!
I can open new tabs, go visit links in the history, etc, with no
problems. But any keyboard input (hitting Ctrl-t for new tab, Ctrl-n
for new Window, or trying to enter an address into the address bar)
completely freezes the program.
Running from command line produced no outputs.
Running with `strace` gives the following output near the end. I am
not sure what's going on with the read(3, 0x9038118, 4096) thing which
keeps giving Reseource temporarily unavailable: it keeps flashing by
once Firefox has started, seems like firefox keep trying to poll
something, but I have no idea what it is doing.
But at the very least, even when I just leave the window alone, I knew
firefox was doing something.
But the minute I hit the keyboard, the rapidly scrolling output of
strace stops, and I had to hit Ctrl-C to terminate the process
(resulting in the last line of the posted trace).
The running versions of firefox is 4.0-r3, and xulrunner is at 2.0-r1
[ebuild R ] net-libs/xulrunner-2.0-r1 USE=alsa ipc webm wifi
-crashreporter -custom-optimization -dbus -debug -gconf -libnotify
-startup-notification -system-sqlite 0 kB
[ebuild R ] www-client/firefox-4.0-r3 USE=alsa ipc webm wifi -bindist
-custom-optimization -dbus -debug -libnotify -startup-notification
-system-sqlite LINGUAS=en fr -af -ak -ar -ast -be -bg -bn -bn_BD -bn_IN -br
-bs -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -en_ZA -eo -es -es_ES -et -eu -fa -fi -fy -fy_NL
-ga -ga_IE -gd -gl -gu -gu_IN -he -hi -hi_IN -hr -hu -hy -hy_AM -id -is -it -ja
-kk -kn -ko -ku -lg -lt -lv -mai -mk -ml -mr -nb -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -nso -or
-pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_PT -rm -ro -ru -si -sk -sl -son -sq -sr -sv -sv_SE -ta
-ta_LK -te -th -tr -uk -vi -zu 0 kB
Any ideas?
--strace output snip
writev(3, [{\221\6\2\0\3\0 \1, 8}, {NULL, 0}, {, 0}], 3) = 8
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1)= 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLIN}])
read(3,
\1\3\354\4\17\0\0\0\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\224\2(\0,\1,\1\240\0(\0..., 4096)
= 92
read(3, 0x9038118, 4096)= -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily
unavailable)
read(3, 0x9038118, 4096)= -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily
unavailable)
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN|POLLOUT}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLOUT}])
writev(3, [{\221\10\7\0\3\0G\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\5, 28},
{NULL, 0}, {, 0}], 3) = 28
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1)= 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLIN}])
read(3,
\1\3\355\4\f\4\0\0\0\0\10\377G\0\0\31\31\10\351\0\370\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\10...,
4096) = 4096
read(3, \0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0...,
80) = 80
read(3, 0x9038118, 4096)= -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily
unavailable)
read(3, 0x9038118, 4096)= -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily
unavailable)
gettimeofday({1302810140, 819284}, NULL) = 0
futex(0x905a888, FUTEX_WAKE_OP_PRIVATE, 1, 1, 0x905a884, {FUTEX_OP_SET, 0,
FUTEX_OP_CMP_GT, 1}) = 1
gettimeofday({1302810140, 824690}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1302810140, 824783}, NULL) = 0
futex(0x905a888, FUTEX_WAKE_OP_PRIVATE, 1, 1, 0x905a884, {FUTEX_OP_SET, 0,
FUTEX_OP_CMP_GT, 1}) = 1
gettimeofday({1302810140, 825089}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1302810140, 825183}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1302810140, 825464}, NULL) = 0
read(16, \372, 1) = 1
gettimeofday({1302810140, 825899}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1302810140, 825996}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1302810140, 826099}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1302810140, 826196}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1302810140, 826287}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1302810140, 826397}, NULL) = 0
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=16, events=POLLIN}], 3,
0) = 0 (Timeout)
gettimeofday({1302810140, 826733}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1302810140, 826829}, NULL) = 0
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN|POLLOUT}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLOUT}])
writev(3, [{\201\1\2\0\306\0\0\0, 8}, {NULL, 0}, {, 0}], 3) = 8
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1)= 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLIN}])
read(3,
\1\0\356\4\0\0\0\0\305\0\0\0\220'\t\\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\322\300\277\0\0\0\0,
4096) = 32
read(3, 0x9038118, 4096)= -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily
unavailable)
read(3, 0x9038118, 4096)= -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily
unavailable)
gettimeofday({1302810140, 827861}, NULL) = 0
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN|POLLOUT}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLOUT}])
writev(3, [{\221\10\7\0\0\1\7\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\5, 28},
{NULL, 0}, {, 0}], 3) = 28
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1)= 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLIN}])
read(3,
\1\3\357\4\10\4\0\0\0\0\10\377\7\0\0\31\31\10\351\0\370\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\10...,
4096) = 4096
read(3,
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 4 hard freeze
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 03:53:39PM -0400, Willie Wong wrote: Hi list, I'm running into some weird problem. Firefox was upgraded to version 4 a few days ago. And up until last night I have had no problems with it. Starting this morning, however, it seems that Firefox would freeze up whenever I touch the keyboard with the window in focus! I can open new tabs, go visit links in the history, etc, with no problems. But any keyboard input (hitting Ctrl-t for new tab, Ctrl-n for new Window, or trying to enter an address into the address bar) completely freezes the program. Update: seems that only some keyboard input is affected. For example, arrow keys for scrolling, and typing things in text/input boxes on webpages are fine. But hotkeys interacting with Firefox, or typing in the Address bar or Search bar freezes the program. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] *** URGENT *** xdg-open respawns itself until crash
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 01:44:14PM +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Thanks, I'll try that - though I have not much time to do so, since the machine starts swapping (though it has 8Gb memory). Furtheron I've found out, that sci-mathematics/dataplot had BROWSER=xdg-open in it's /etc/env.d/90dataplot file. Thus it went into /etc/profile.env. I think it's very strange that a package may modify such a vital environment variable as 'BROWSER'. That is just setting the default. If you have any preferences set in your user's environment, it shouldn't be affected. Is this a bug in sci-mathematics/dataplot ? Not really. See `man xdg-open` for what this program does. (It is part of x11-misc/xdg-utils, you may also want to look at the man page for xdg-settings). The programs are *supposed* to provide cross-platform/cross-desktop/cross-toolkit interoperability. Basically trying to save you the problem from being either locked-down to your current desktop environment's way of configuring which program is used to open which type of documents and the problem of having to go into every single program to change the preferred browser in their settings when you decide that, say, you no longer want to use Firefox and now prefers Opera. In terms of a default it is a fairly sensible one, and works okay with full-blown desktop environments. (Does anyone know if it works with enlightenment?) So on my work compute with Gnome it is great. But on my home computer with Fvwm, not so much. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] renumber pages in pdf files
On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 07:04:45PM -0300, luis jure wrote: i' currently using an application called jpdftweak to edit metadata in pdf files, like page numbers. jpdftweak is very useful, but being a gui app it's slow for repeatedly editing many files. look at app-text/pdfjam The first few lines of `pdfjam --help` probably contains enough information for you to do what you want. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Bash $VAR expansion escapes the dollar instead of expanding
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 06:51:54AM -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I have an env var, WWW=/home/www/felix, which I have always used with tab completion without problems. cd $WWW/httabphtab20110318 would expand in steps cd /home/www/felix/htdocs/ cd /home/www/felix/htdocs/photos/ cd /home/www/felix/htdocs/photos/20110318 But some recent bash upgrade has scuppered this. tab no longer expands the $WWW; instead, it escapes the $, adds a space at the end, and thinks itself clever. cd \$WWW/ht ph which does me no good. I'll be danged if I can figure out any google-fu to search for this, and 'bash help' and 'info bash' have done me no good either. I do not know which specific bash upgrade changed this, since I don't have very many of these env vars I used similarly. The current bash --version is 4.2.8(2)-release, gentoo version is app-shells/bash-4.2_p8. A possible culprit maybe the bash-completion package. Have you updated that recently? W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
[gentoo-user] Simplify finding the package?
Hi list, sorry for the nondescript title. Let me described what happened. I ran `emerge --update --deep world' over the weekend which updated app-text/poppler: Sat Mar 12 22:00:46 2011 app-text/poppler-0.16.3 Today I found out that a whole bunch of packages got broken, and so I ran `revdep-rebuild -p'. To my surprise, revdep-rebuild wants to downgrade to app-text/poppler-0.14.5. That's odd, I thought. So I ran `emerge --pretend --oneshot --verbose --tree' against the list of packages produced by revdep-rebuild, and it displays near the bottom that poppler-0.14.5 is a dependency of luatex-0.65 which is a dependency of texlive-core-2010-r1. Okay. So I thought that one of those two packages have an explicit dependency on a lower version of poppler. And I thought I want to file a bug about that. Digging into the ebuilds for luatex and texlive, I can't find any reason why they would require poppler-0.14.5, and not 0.16.3. So after puzzling about it for 20 minutes, I did the stupid thing, and tried `emerge --oneshot --pretend luatex texlive-core' and lo-and-behold, the poppler dependency does not appear! Then combing through the list of packages one-by-one, I finally found (on the second-to-last package that I tried) that the culprit is in fact python-poppler. Now, two questions: (a) Should this be considered a bug in portage? The presented information from `emerge --pretend --tree' is misleading to which package is actually causing the downgrade request. (b) Is there a way to have found that python-poppler was the culprit without running `emerge --pretend' on each of the list of 16 packages? Thanks, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Re: PDF: convert to grayscale
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 03:08:23PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: That makes me wonder... in a color printer, I expect it not to print any color when it has no color ink, but do grayscale printers apply some conversion internally, to make sure that e.g. plain cyan is still visible (instead of making it white)? No. No matter what transformation you use from a 3-dimensional space into a 1-dimensional space, there will be sets of values that differ in the 3-dimensional space which map to identical values in the 1-dimensional space. But it is trivial to make a transformation that maps to certain sets of values not more than once. In particular, there's nothing barring the printer to make it so that only pure white and pure black gets mapped to white and black, and everything else maps (nonuniquely) to a shade of grey. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Search filesystem with a wildcard
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 06:52:36AM +, Stroller wrote: AIUI using `find /my/folder -name foo*.txt` (i.e. unquoted) the shell will pass the * to find if it can't expand it itself. Not necessarily true. On bash if you set the 'nullglob' option, if the shell can't find the file the word will be removed. If you set the 'failglob' character, the command will quit with an error if the shell can't complete the path expansion. I expect there to be similar options in other shells. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] x11-terms/terminator and hide_window shortcut key
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 02:12:57PM +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote: Terminator claims it depends on python-keybinder for the show/hide function to work, but even after installing dev-libs/keybinder +python, pressing the show/hide window shortcut doesnt seem to do anything. Well, today's not a bad day to try something new: does anyone use terminator, and if so, has anyone ever gotten the show/hide shortcut key to work? Where do you see this information about show/hide window shortcut? I don't see it in the man page http://www.tenshu.net/wp-content/uploads/terminator.html A bit more searching shows that to be possibly a recent patch? https://code.launchpad.net/~peterbjorgensen/terminator/dropdown Does the gentoo install actually include that patch? (I think not. The gentoo install uses the 0.95 sources which was released on August last year, whereas the merge of the dropdown patch into trunk on launchpad was approved in October.) Maybe you just need to wait until the 0.96 version. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to get real text console without killing X capability?
On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 06:43:32PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: The current ebuild is screen-4.0.3, and up to screen-4.0.3-r4 (with ~everything) shows up after an emerge --sync. I can ./configure --with-various-options make make install with the best of them (not that I know what I'm doingG), but the latest builds of screen are in a git repository, which I'm not familiar with. Plus which, these builds could be alpha or very early beta, so I don't really want to use them on a production machine. Keywording ~amd64 ebuilds is as much bleeding edge as I want to go. May be you want to try 'tmux', which was discussed on this list a short while ago. The key combo for vertical splitting is C-b % Since version 1.2 it supports vertical and horizontal splitting, version 1.3 in portage is amd64, and 1.4 is ~amd64. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
[gentoo-user] [OT] find lines in text file by length
This is way OT, but I hope someone here can give me a quick answer: I have a text-file. Individual lines of it run from 10 to several thousand characters in length. Is there a simple* command that allows me to only display the lines that are, say, at least 300 characters long? Thanks in advance, W * simple of course includes appropriate incantations of sed/awk/perl/etc -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] find lines in text file by length
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 03:08:11PM +, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
Oh, and obviously
grep '.\{300\}' file
D'Oh! That's really obvious. Thanks!
W
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Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire
et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] config with wireless
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 11:27:27PM -0200, Zhu Sha Zang wrote: I think that this software, wicd, is just to ubuntu's users not to Gentoo. You are in the minority. Many on this list (including me) use wicd for desktop/laptop use. If work without gui,, why i need a gui? wicd doesn't require a GUI. It has a CLI interface and a curses one (I prefer to use the curses interface myself), in addition to the GTK one. Which you install can be controlled by USE. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] starting wlan0 only when wireless is turned on
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 02:02:55PM +, Mick wrote: Right, I thought as much, but Valmor's removal of /etc/wpa_supplicant/*.conf through me out. Can wicd write to /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf? I don't know, but, then again, why would it need to? I know that wicd does write *somewhere* to save the settings. If it can call wpa_supplicant, it can also call it with the -c option if it needs to, no? W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mutt+gnupg: how do you name the attached signature file ?
Jean-Christophe: On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 02:31:41PM +0100, Jean-Christophe Bach wrote: It would be great if this patch were added to the gentoo-patches when gpg flag is enabled for mutt. Thanks for the work! If you want the patch merged into the gentoo patch set, I think you should file a bug on bugs.gentoo.org, if you haven't already done so. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] rxvt-unicode has no transparency right after upgrade
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 07:58:01PM +0800, fei huang wrote: I upgraded rxvt-unicode within just one or two days, right after a upgrade to version 9.09, it does not support transparency any more, but my Xresources had been always working for me. post a snippet of my config file here, thanks. URxvt.transparent:true URxvt.shading:20 URxvt.tintColor:gray90 (1) To trouble shoot: is this an issue of Xresources or is this an issue with urxvt itself? Does 'urxvt -tr -tint gra90 -sh 20' work? (2) For pseudotransparency and tinting etc you need libafterimage installed and with rxvt-unicode built against it, look at 'emerge -pv rxvt-unicode' did you enable the afterimage USE? W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] rxvt-unicode has no transparency right after upgrade
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:36:01AM +0800, fei huang wrote: ok, everything is back to normal again, I downgraded my rxvt-unicode to 9.07-r2 and it worked as before. shall I report a bug or maybe I still missed something? Go ahead and file a bug, but as pseudotransparency was never officially supported by rxvt-unicode (see their FAQ on it), I'm not sure if upstream will actually fix it. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] rxvt-unicode has no transparency right after upgrade
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:04:10AM -0800, Keith Dart wrote: I had previously used method 3, with an entry in my ~/.Xdefaults for it, that worked fine. It stopped for some reason with this new version. I suspect they may have removed the hacks they talked about and now depend on a properly functioning window manager. I am using xfwm4 with compositing enabled. Setting the property now works with it. If that were indeed the case (that they are forcing migration away from pseudotransparency and into real transparency), then it'd have been nice if the +/-tr tags throw some error text rather than just being silently ignored. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI - 2.6.38 desktop responsiveness patch + how to do it now
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 05:36:05PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Prevailing opinion on /. That is a strange sentence itself. To see Alan deferring to the higher authority of the collective wisdom of /. is... well... surprising. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Crufted with perl modules?
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 05:42:24PM -0800, Grant wrote:
qfile -orphans ?
That sounds promising but I get:
# qfile --orphans
Usage: qfile opts filename : list all pkgs owning files
qfile --orphans needs to take input a filename.
So to go through your system looking for all orphaned files, you do
something like
find / -exec qfile -o '{}' \;
... which will produce a load of output that you don't want. So best
to (1) restrict to smaller subdirectories (instead of /, do
/usr/lib/perl5), and (2) redirect the output to disk.
W
--
Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire
et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] after update ssh with shared_keys don't work
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 05:56:18PM +0100, Tamer Higazi wrote: I updated yesterday my gentoo box. And now I can't login with SSH through shared keys on my clients Server what I did all the time. I am confused (as usually is the case when I see someone trying to describe a client/server setup): There are at least two computers involved here: A -- your desktop/laptop B -- your client's server Is this correct so far? Now, A is running Gentoo. Correct? What is B running? Are you trying to SSH from A to B, or are you trying to SSH from B to A? When you say you can't login with SSH through shared keys, does that mean you can log-in through password? When I made the world update, there was the package udev. I guess it might have something todo with this. Why would you think udev is causing the problem? Udev manages devices, I fail to see what it has to do with SSH and public key authentication. Rather than guessing by yourself, you may be better off providing the whole list of recently updated packages. You can use 'genlop' or 'qlop' for that, or you can just read /var/log/emerge.log by hand. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix broken
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 09:57:42PM -0800, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: Some time ago, it appears, postfix stopped working for me. I am no longer able to use it to send mail (usually to my ISP, where it gets routed). Do you actually need a full blown mail server? If you just relay your mail to your ISP, then you may be able to simplify your life using something like nbsmtp. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mutt attachment viewing
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 04:15:39PM -0200, José Romildo Malaquias wrote: With the entry: text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html it does not work: [-- Autoview using /usr/bin/lynx -dump -force_html ''/tmp/mutt.html'' --] With the entry: text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html; needsterminal it also does not work: [-- Autoview using /usr/bin/lynx -dump -force_html ''/tmp/mutt.html'' --] With the entry: text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput What if you use links -dump %s I think if you use a textmode browser you need to tell it to dump the parsed output to stdout for mutt to be able to deal with it. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Command-line wicd?
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 07:06:18PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 18:55 on Thursday 04 November 2010, Peter Humphrey did opine thusly: I'm installing Gentoo on a Thinkpad laptop wicd is designed for laptops and mobile computers. Alan: time for new reading glasses? Peter: I am pretty sure on my laptop I disabled the wicd gtk/X interface (and only use the curses interface). Check the list of USE for wicd again? Maybe you need to also issue -X? Best, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When ls command fails but only on $HOME
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 01:07:34PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Something I have not run into before. Following a major update still in progress I find the ls command will not run on $HOME. By the time the command hits ls itself, the shell has already expanded the HOME variable. So it's unlikely to be the command and more something dodgy with your shell. What shell are you using? What is the output of echo $HOME? My shell is xterm... and was just updated to: Wed Oct 27 10:15:06 2010 x11-terms/xterm-262 That's the terminal. What shell do you use/ echo $HOME /home/reader Before we go further, when you said `ls' will not complete against $HOME, which of the following scenario did you mean? a) you typed `ls $HOME' as a user (the one I think Alan thinks you mean) b) you type `ls' while in your home directory (/home/reader) c) you typed `ls /home/reader' ? W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Winter clock change did not happen
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 05:24:23PM +, Mick wrote: Thank you Graham for your very detailed reply! I understand now why the problem exists. I have used the registry change suggested by Nuno on Win7 and will see what gives next time DST changes. I just hope that it'll work without having *both* OS shifting the clock by one hour ... The more I read this page[1] the more I am tempted to format MSWindows out of this box whether the warranty is still valid or not! [1] http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/mswish/ut-rtc.html Or just cheat like I do. I set Windows to GMT with no daylight saving offset, so it won't be tempted into playing with my system clock. Gentoo thinks CLOCK=UTC. I don't boot into Windows often enough to care about the clock being off by an hour during the summer (or roughly 5 hours year-round when I move back to the States). Having long accepted that Operating System is broken, when should I demand it to keep the right time? ;) Just my two pence W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox and using kdm
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 10:43:34PM -0500, Dale wrote: I'm guessing it is a command line thing. I like a GUI. I could have used Lynx to access my email and not even have fluxbox. ^_^ Gmail has web access so I could do it that way I guess. You can, in fact, also read G-mail with Mutt through the imaps interface. Cheers W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: DNS Issues [Was: [gentoo-user] Re: Slow Login, Sudo, etc.]
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:17:02PM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:59:25 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Seriously, just use wicd, dump the rest. +1 Call me old-fashioned, I use wpa_supplicant. :) Actually, I'll call you confused :) Comparing wpa_supplicant and wicd is comparing the apples to, uh, pig, I guess. wpa_supplicant provides the user-end of the WPA authentication process; wicd provides a system of managing networks. In fact, wicd calls wpa_supplicant on networks encrypted that way. It would be more proper for you to say (if it is true), that you prefer to issue the '/etc/init.d/net.something start' commands by hand. That will make you properly curmudgeonly. I was that way once. But after using one flaky network too many (it is mighty annoying to have to open a console and type '/etc/init.d/net.eth1 restart' every five minutes), I've since converted to wicd too. HTH, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --unmerge fails
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:05:40PM -0700, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: * The 'prerm' phase of the 'www-client/arora-0.11.0' package has failed * with exit value -1. * * The problem occurred while executing the ebuild file named * 'arora-0.11.0.ebuild' located in the '/var/db/pkg/www- * client/arora-0.11.0' directory. If necessary, manually remove the * environment.bz2 file and/or the ebuild file located in that directory. * * Removal of the environment.bz2 file is preferred since it may allow the * removal phases to execute successfully. The ebuild will be sourced and * the eclasses from the current portage tree will be used when necessary. * Removal of the ebuild file will cause the pkg_prerm() and pkg_postrm() * removal phases to be skipped entirely. * Messages for package www-client/arora-0.11.0: * The 'prerm' phase of the 'www-client/arora-0.11.0' package has failed * with exit value -1. * * The problem occurred while executing the ebuild file named * 'arora-0.11.0.ebuild' located in the '/var/db/pkg/www- * client/arora-0.11.0' directory. If necessary, manually remove the * environment.bz2 file and/or the ebuild file located in that directory. * * Removal of the environment.bz2 file is preferred since it may allow the * removal phases to execute successfully. The ebuild will be sourced and * the eclasses from the current portage tree will be used when necessary. * Removal of the ebuild file will cause the pkg_prerm() and pkg_postrm() * removal phases to be skipped entirely. Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/emerge, line 42, in module retval = emerge_main() File /usr/lib/portage/pym/_emerge/main.py, line 1492, in emerge_main myopts, myaction, myfiles, spinner) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/_emerge/actions.py, line 2305, in action_uninstall valid_atoms, ldpath_mtimes, ordered=ordered) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/_emerge/unmerge.py, line 507, in unmerge scheduler=scheduler) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage/dbapi/vartree.py, line 4509, in unmerge ldpath_mtimes=ldpath_mtimes) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage/dbapi/vartree.py, line 2160, in unmerge vartree=self.vartree) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage/package/ebuild/doebuild.py, line 793, in doebuild fd_pipes=fd_pipes, returnpid=returnpid) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage/package/ebuild/doebuild.py, line 1261, in spawn buf.fromfile(f, buffsize) IOError: [Errno 5] Input/output error Strange, an IO error? Which other packages do you have this problem with? W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] text in xterm
On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 09:29:36PM +, James wrote: Using various different hardware configurations -- my laptop has a Intel 915GM. The same thing happens on my iMac which has an nVidia card. I tried to take a screenshot of the issue, but the artifacts do NOT appear in the screenshot. Hum, does http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=150390 help? (It suggests that it is a problem with Compiz 0.8.6 against nVidia and Intel drivers, and a work around is to downgrade to 0.8.4.) Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Copying a file via ssh with no password, keeping the system safe
On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 10:05:50AM +0200, Andrea Conti wrote: Now, the remote sshd is never sent any information about what is connected to the local end of the pipe (which is not even known to ssh!), so there is no way to alter its behavior depending on that. IOW, nothing in the setup you and I proposed prevents the user from piping an arbitrary command into ssh (or even using a ssh-invoking wrapper such as scp or rsync) and getting successfully authenticated on the server. You are only guaranteed that the server will run tar in place of whatever remote command the client requests, so that the connection will break if the client side sends non-tar data. In my opinion this is quite different from [allowing] only one single command from a single cronjob to operate passwordless, but then I might just be splitting hairs. Okay, reading your explanation I agree with you on both counts: the behaviour does not exactly fit the letter of the question, and that you are splitting hairs because I think the behaviour is good enough for the spirit of the message. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 04:01:14AM -0400, dhk wrote: I thought all the auto tools were in the autotoolset, that's not the case. It looks like the only tool I use in autotoolset is acmkdir. If I remove autotoolset, how can I get acmkdir back? Even though it's not necessary, it's a nice tool for starting a project. I have somewhat of a suspicious that `acmkdir' may be just a shell script? (Never used it, so I don't know.) If so then you can just find it on your system and copy it to /usr/local/bin or something like that (it possibly copies the templates from somewhere else, so you will need to find those also). Note that it may make use of deprecated autotool commands, and if not updated, may break in the future. HTH, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Copying a file via ssh with no password, keeping the system safe
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 06:45:49PM +0200, Momesso Andrea wrote: I need to set up a cron job to transfer a file every day from server A to server B. I'd like to do that via ssh and with no user assistance, completely automated. Setting up a public key, would do the job, but then, all the connections between the servers would be passwordless, so if server A gets compromised, also server B is screwed. Is there a way to allow only one single command from a single cronjob to operate passwordless, while keeping all the other connections secured by a password? In the authorized_keys file, you need to include a specification of command=insert command here. Which means that on log-in with the public key, the sshd will execute that command, and any other commands sent from the machine which originated the connection will not execute. So I'd imagine you can untar with the command at the target, and instead of scp, use something like tar file | ssh -i identity file u...@host (of course, this still opens up the possibility that a partition gets filled on your target machine by someone copying random string to it, but you'd have to live with that). (Also, note, I haven't actually tried this method of copying files myself, so while I'd imagine it'd work, you may need to play around with it for a bit. What I've done before was to have a shell script set to run, triggered by a public key login like this.) See 'man sshd' for more detail. HTH, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Copying a file via ssh with no password, keeping the system safe
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 02:14:47PM -0400, Willie Wong wrote: On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 06:45:49PM +0200, Momesso Andrea wrote: I need to set up a cron job to transfer a file every day from server A to server B. I'd like to do that via ssh and with no user assistance, completely automated. Setting up a public key, would do the job, but then, all the connections between the servers would be passwordless, so if server A gets compromised, also server B is screwed. Is there a way to allow only one single command from a single cronjob to operate passwordless, while keeping all the other connections secured by a password? In the authorized_keys file, you need to include a specification of command=insert command here. Which means that on log-in with the public key, the sshd will execute that command, and any other commands sent from the machine which originated the connection will not execute. So I'd imagine you can untar with the command at the target, and instead of scp, use something like tar file | ssh -i identity file u...@host These two links may also be helpful: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/438 http://sial.org/howto/rsync/ W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Copying a file via ssh with no password, keeping the system safe
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 08:40:31PM +0200, Andrea Conti wrote: Is there a way to allow only one single command from a single cronjob to operate passwordless, while keeping all the other connections secured by a password? You can't do that on a per-command basis. You'd be trying to control the authentication method accepted by sshd on B according to which command is run on A -- something sshd on B knows nothing about. That's partially false. See my response in this thread. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] ~40 new perl-related ebuilds, why???
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 06:20:54PM +0200, Jarry wrote: # emerge --pretend --update --deep --newuse world snip [ebuild N] perl-core/Module-Build-0.36.07 [ebuild N] virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.36.07 [ebuild N] dev-perl/Error-0.17.016 USE=-test [ebuild N] dev-vcs/git-1.7.2.2 USE=blksha1 curl iconv perl threads webdav -bash-completion -cgi -cvs -doc -emacs -gtk (-ppcsha1) -subversion -tk -xinetd [ebuild U ] sys-devel/gettext-0.18.1.1-r1 [0.17-r1] USE=git%* ^ This is pulling in git. Git is pulling in everything else. Remove git from your USE if you don't need it. For future reference it is easier to see dependencies if you use the --tree option to emerge. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
[gentoo-user] Protocol for bugs on Sunrise ebuilds
What is the protocol for reporting bugs on ebuilds in the sunrise overlay? In particular, media-gfx/ipe has an RDEPEND on !seamonkey? ( || ( www-client/mozilla-firefox www-client/firefox-bin ) ) which is broken by the recent move of www-client/mozilla-firefox to www-client/firefox (and now it wants to pull in firefox-bin instead). Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Protocol for bugs on Sunrise ebuilds
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 01:56:43PM +0200, Pavel Sanda wrote: What is the protocol for reporting bugs on ebuilds in the sunrise overlay? i would either write directly to the maintainer of the ebuild or send a note to irc channel dedicated to sunrise. ... and of course /usr/local/portage/layman/sunrise/media-gfx/ipe $ grep maint metadata.xml maintaineremailmaintainer-wan...@gentoo.org/email/maintainer D'Oh. I'll try asking around irc sometime later. Thanks. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
[gentoo-user] inkscape fails, cannot find boost
Dear list, Just want a sanity check. I try to emerge the most recent version of inkscape (media-gfx/inkscape-0.48.0), and the build fails in the configuration stage -snip build.log checking for IMAGEMAGICK... yes checking for CAIRO_USER_FONTS... yes checking for INKSCAPE... yes checking for Mac OS X Carbon support... no checking boost/concept_check.hpp usability... no checking boost/concept_check.hpp presence... no checking for boost/concept_check.hpp... no configure: error: You need the boost package (e.g. libboost-dev) --- -snip config.log configure:7205: checking for unistd.h configure:7205: i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -c -O2 -march=native -pipe -fno-strict-ali asing -Werror=format-security -Wall -Wformat -Wformat-security -W -D_FORTIFY_SOU RCE=2 conftest.cpp 5 configure:7205: $? = 0 configure:7205: result: yes configure:7218: checking boost/unordered_set.hpp usability configure:7218: i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -c -O2 -march=native -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror=format-security -Wall -Wformat -Wformat-security -W -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 conftest.cpp 5 conftest.cpp:55:35: error: boost/unordered_set.hpp: No such file or directory configure:7218: $? = 1 - `qcheck boost' returns that all 7000+ files are good, and /usr/include/boost-1_42boost/unordered_set.hpp exists. Any thoughts what can be given me problems? Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Flash player
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 06:40:18PM -0400, Daniel D Jones wrote: As shown, I have Flash Player 10 installed. (I unmasked and upgraded to the installed version in an effort to fix this issue.) On multiple sites, however, using Firefox, I get the following message or similar: Sorry, the Flash Player version you are using is not supported by HBO.com It appears you are currently using Flash Player 9.0.115 and this site supports version 9.0.124 and up. In order to continue, please upgrade your Flash Player. The same page will work in Opera. Firefox is installed via the firefox-bin package rather than the source package. Fixes or suggestions for avenues of investigation would be greatly appreciated. Is there another copy of flash installed 'locally'? As in your home directory? Check ~/.mozilla for a plugins subdirectory to see. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] I don't understand Perl. What do I do after an update?
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 08:04:54PM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Portage recently updated Perl from 5.10.1 to 5.12.1 (and later -r1).
However, a crapload of files still remain in
/usr/lib/perl5/{site_perl,vendor_perl}/5.10.1. I found out the hard way
after trying to emerge openoffice (and everyone knows how painful that
one is):
What is the user required to do after updating Perl? elogv doesn't tell
me anything about upgrading.
There's this neat little script called perl-cleaner
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/perl/perl-cleaner.xml
W
--
Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire
et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server 1.7.6 without mouse and keyboard
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 05:57:14PM +0200, Tamer Higazi wrote: After upgrading my system, xorg-server 1.7.6 is on my system. I regenrated the config file Xorg -configure. The display is shown proparly with everything around it but I don't have a mice and keyboard. How do I get the mouse and keyboard to run. I followed the steps from the official gentoo xorg guide, and nothing changed. Any ideas?! (1) Please post your xorg.conf (2) Please show the output of emerge -pv xorg-server Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild + minimal output
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 06:52:35AM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: is there an option to revdep-rebuild to only do output if it has something to rebuild ? This should be run via cron to notify me via email. Usually is there an option... questions are well-answered by man program name. And in this case the closest thing from the man page is the -q option, which doesn't do exactly what you want. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] CD boot - dmesg buffer depth option?
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 02:17:26PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu wrote: On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 09:16:14AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm trying to capture the full boot log when booting from the Gentoo install CD but it seems the buffer isn't deep enough to get the whole thing. Is there by chance a command line option that will increase the depth of what's captured by dmesg so that I can get all the way back to the beginning? pass the following parameter to the kernel on GRUB/LILO: log_buf_len=n where n is a power of two. By default it is 16384. You can change it to 131072 (= 2^17) to get a much larger kernel log ring buffer. If you put in something that is not a power of two, the kernel will ignore the option. Thanks for the ideas. I've been trying them but so far no luck. In my normal booting kernel (on the system hard drive) I did push the length up to 18. With that setting dmesg prints all the way back to the beginning. However booting the Live CD I hit F1, it shows the kernels, so I type gentoo log_buf_len=18 18 is not a power of two. Why didn't you just try 131072, like I suggested? In maths notation, n = 2^k for some natural number k. 18 fails that miserably. :) Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] CD boot - dmesg buffer depth option?
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 02:17:26PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu wrote: On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 09:16:14AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm trying to capture the full boot log when booting from the Gentoo install CD but it seems the buffer isn't deep enough to get the whole thing. Is there by chance a command line option that will increase the depth of what's captured by dmesg so that I can get all the way back to the beginning? pass the following parameter to the kernel on GRUB/LILO: log_buf_len=n where n is a power of two. By default it is 16384. You can change it to 131072 (= 2^17) to get a much larger kernel log ring buffer. If you put in something that is not a power of two, the kernel will ignore the option. In my normal booting kernel (on the system hard drive) I did push the length up to 18. With that setting dmesg prints all the way back to the beginning. However booting the Live CD I hit F1, it shows the kernels, so I type to add to the confusion is probably the fact that the in-kernel configuration parameter is a bit-shift number, and the boot-time cmdline parameter is actually 2 to that power. So the in-kernel configuration parameter should be k (=18 in your case), and the boot-time parameter should be 2^k (=262144). Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] [bugzilla-dae...@gentoo.org: [Bug 326991] Testing release of sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.3 from unofficial sources (???)]
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 01:29:04AM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Hi folks, does he speak for all of you ? --- Comment #4 from vap...@gentoo.org 2010-07-05 19:39 --- lemme clarify further: dont bother submitting ebuilds for any package in OSS-QM. we arent interested. What the heck is the OSS-QM? No, the link in your sig didn't work, it returned a 404. In any case, if the gentoo maintainers don't want to deal with it, and if you really need it, and if you can't convince them to switch, then maybe it is time to try a new distro? Also, just because it is not *sanctioned* by the maintainers doesn't mean it cannot go in an overlay somewhere. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] How to capture a screen video?
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 03:47:44PM +0800, Blackdream W wrote: 发文档务必请用.txt格式。其它格式不会被打开 For someone whose signature asks all posts to be in txt, what are you doing sending so many GIFs to the mailing list? W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] How to capture a screen video?
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 03:39:29PM +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: 2010/7/5 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au: There is a very informative movie that might help explain the process of asking a question, then asking what question you need to get the answer. Its called Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy. Its obvious, the answers 24. 24? I always thought The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything was 42. Did I miss something? :) Obviously William Kenworthy is actually from a planet in the vicinity of Betelgeuse, and has three arms, 2 of which with 6 fingers, and 1 with 7. Else I cannot fathom why he would want to try to count in base 19. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] CD boot - dmesg buffer depth option?
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 09:16:14AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm trying to capture the full boot log when booting from the Gentoo install CD but it seems the buffer isn't deep enough to get the whole thing. Is there by chance a command line option that will increase the depth of what's captured by dmesg so that I can get all the way back to the beginning? pass the following parameter to the kernel on GRUB/LILO: log_buf_len=n where n is a power of two. By default it is 16384. You can change it to 131072 (= 2^17) to get a much larger kernel log ring buffer. If you put in something that is not a power of two, the kernel will ignore the option. You may also have to pass an additional parameter to dmesg to read the early messages: look at 'man dmesg' and the -s flag. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 02:54:33AM +0200, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: Hi all, I'm often stucked by the current policy in this mailing list changing the 'Reply-To' header to the mailing list address. Most mailing lists I use don't do that. It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it permit to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole mailing list. What do you think about changing of policy? Way to go! Reviving a five-year-old discussion: http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-u...@gentoo.org/msg45780.html Which at that time, was already an old discussion: http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-u...@gentoo.org/msg45855.html So let's just not much about with it, eh? Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Can we please get a USB-stick install boot image?
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 06:52:09PM -0400, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: I don't know if this is the proper list to post this request to. I've been using linux for a dozen years, and am capable of reading and following instructions. But, after a lot of dicking around, I still haven't been able to modify a CD boot image get Gentoo to boot from a USB stick. For my netbook (look ma, no CD) I ended up booting Knoppix from a USB-stick, and installing Gentoo from there. There are quite a few machines without CD drives being sold today, but none that I'm aware of that won't boot from a USB stick. I believe that USB-stick images, rather than CD images, should be the default distributed boot images on the mirrors. And think of all the CD's that won't end up in the landfill, after an install image is used once. While I'd also like to see USB boot media, I'd like to observe that SystemRescueCD, which is based on Gentoo, is perfectly good to use as an install medium. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] X-Server-1.8 and Intel i915 modesetting stability
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 06:47:42PM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: 1. On boot up, the screen goes completely black until the xserver is started. While I know my system long enough to recognize common boot errors by watching the disk and peripheral device activity, I wouldn't like to make a filesystem recovery blindfolded ;) Any dmesg output? 2. Once the XServer runs, it is extremely unstable. It gets killed and restarted by XDM every few minutes. dmesg and Xorg.0.log haven't shown anything suspicious. In the end that means that I'm currently stuck with xorg-server-1.7 and no modesetting. -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] X-Server-1.8 and Intel i915 modesetting stability
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 08:49:38PM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: What, you mean after going blank? Not that I would have noticed. If you mean after the xserver crash, see three sentences below ;) Oh, my bad. So I assumed that you also checked the kernel logs then. Are you sure there's no kernel trouble _very early_ in the boot process? I don't know about the Dell model you have, is it a laptop? Some motherboard BIOS/ACPI are known to have a bug where they mis-report the lid status of the laptop, and so on boot the computer thinks the lid is closed and turns off the screen. Though the kernel would usually complain about not finding an active screen attached to the video card or something like that. 2. Once the XServer runs, it is extremely unstable. It gets killed and restarted by XDM every few minutes. dmesg and Xorg.0.log haven't shown anything suspicious. Is this with a window manager or is this also with the vaniila TWM + xterm? I mean, if something crashes, somebody somewhere ought of have a log, right? Best of luck, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Stable users: libpng-1.4
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:56:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
He has this uncanny ability of almost
always being correct on technical toolchain matters
I disagree with the uncanny part. This is flameeyes we are talking
about. It's like saying Joerg Schilling has this uncanny ability
of almost always being correct on technical CD{ROM,R,RW} DVD, or
Dale has this uncanny ability of almost always jumping into a HAL
bashing thread...
:-)
Thanks for the link as always.
W
--
Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire
et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] X Windows setup questions on my new machine
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 12:13:13AM +0100, Mick wrote: However, my new machine's Intel integrated graphics chip doesn't agree. X will *NOT* work unless I enable i915 DRM driver in make menuconfig, like so... * Intel 830M, 845G, 852GM, 855GM, 865G (i915 driver) --- This results in framebuffer being *FORCED* on. * Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 4.1.0 and higher DRI support -*- Lowlevel video output switch controls -*- Support for frame buffer devices --- Walter, have you tried to find the vga modes that your card supports using vbetools (you'll need vbetest) or running 'hwinfo --vbe' ? With the intel driver and X, he needs to have kernel mode setting enabled. I seem to remember that it doesn't play well with the vga mode setting for framebuffers. But Walter: you should be able to add a line on your lilo/grub prompt for the Intel KMS to set the display resolution at boot time. See the Kernel documentation in /usr/src/linux for the Intel GMA driver for more info on that. (Technically you should be able to rung the console at a different resolution than X; there may require another tweak at the kernel level to make the switch to VT after starting X play nice. See the gentoo-wiki article on Kernel Mode Setting.) Also, have you tried just using larger fonts on the console? If you emerge sys-apps/kbd, there should be some fonts in /usr/share/consolefonts. You can use setfont name to test which one you want to use (some of them are bigger fonts). You may also want to try media-fonts/terminus-font (what I use), it claims to have a 16x32 variant which is twice as large as the default console fonts. After finding a font you like you can set it in /etc/conf.d/consolefont to automatically load at boot time. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] turn on wifi enables also bluetooth
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 02:43:15PM +0200, pat wrote: I have Dell Latitude E4300 notebook where the wifi and bluetooth (BT) is turned on by one HW switch. So, on windows if the switch is turned on there is possible to turn off one of these devices (from windows try stop the device). Is there something similar in Linux? Some application which is opened right after turning on of the switch and the application allow me to choose to turn on wifi or bt or both? Or is there a script which can be used to turn of the device even if the switch is on? Try net-wireless/rfkill You may need to have kernel support compiled (CONFIG_RFKILL, if I remember right). It also depends on rfkill support to have been coded into the drivers for your bluetooth and/or wifi devices. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 03:05:03PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: And how often would you impose refresher tests? Anyone's memory is fallible, as no-one knows better than I do. You just don't remember someone knowing it better. :) W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Deprecated installed packages
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 07:38:43AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 20 May 2010 06:34:37 Willie Wong wrote: Hi list, I ran 'eclean-dist' last night (with no additional arguments) to clean out /usr/portage/distfiles. And it generated a bit of interesting output that I haven't seen before: The folowing Deprecated installed packages were found media-libs/libpng-1.2.43-r1 dev-python/reportlab-2.3-r1 app-i18n/gcin-1.4.7_pre17 sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.31-r9 dev-perl/URI-1.53 dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.22 I don't see anything about this feature in 'man eclean'; does anyone know what this is all about? It means those package version are deprecated and you are encouraged to upgrade them. Ah... I see, I was trying to figure out what they meant by deprecated and how they determined it. It seems that the only thing common to those packages is that their ebuilds are no-longer in the tree. So I guess I'm not going to worry too much about it: if they haven't gotten updated regularly that probably means they are either bdeps or that they will be depcleaned the next time I do it. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Deprecated installed packages
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:20:54AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Ah... I see, I was trying to figure out what they meant by deprecated and how they determined it. It seems that the only thing common to those packages is that their ebuilds are no-longer in the tree. Each one of those packages you list has more up to date versions available in the tree. Precisely. But the exact version that is installed is no longer in the tree. Seeing that I don't recall the portage system introducing a deprecated flag (short of the removal notice and package.mask), I was curious how eclean determined that those packages are deprecated. And also seeing that for many of the ones I listed, neither emerge --update --deep world nor emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y world suggest their updates, in my case they are probably just cruft that ought to go away once the system is brought up to date and I can run depclean. But am I wrong in my impression that with bdeps, the common thing to do is to update them only when absolutely necessary? So in this case the deprecation warning might introduce unnecessary cycles spent on building those packages (among those who don't want to track down the origins of those packages and just want the block of text to go away). Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Intel KMS LVDS; was X crashes, how to troubleshoot?
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:37:16AM -0400, Willie Wong wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 01:21:01AM +0700, Ngoc Nguyen Bao wrote: Seems that you also suffer problem with Intel driver and kernel 2.6.32. Upgrade your xf86-video-intel to v2.11.0 may help. Actually, I am still on kernel 2.6.30; with .32 something's not quite right with the KMS and on boot my laptop's LCD is not detected. I'll try 2.11.0 to see if it also fixes my problem. Just as an aside, my issue with the 2.6.32 kernels turns out to be a bios bug: the bios reports the lid to my netbook is closed even when it is open (cat /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state shows 'closed'). Now starting kernel 2.6.32 apparently the KMS was 'fixed' to trust the bios reporting, hence it does not think *any* computer display is attached to the computer. This leads to a kernel error on boot and a blank screen. Anyway, Pablo (whoever you are: thanks!), a gentoo user, commented on a Ubuntu bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/515246/comments/55 and provided the RTFM response: apparently we can override the bios by passing a suitable boot parameter to explicitly enable the LCD display on the laptop. With this now I'll be able to upgrade to a newer version of the kernel and test out the new intel X drivers. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
[gentoo-user] Deprecated installed packages
Hi list, I ran 'eclean-dist' last night (with no additional arguments) to clean out /usr/portage/distfiles. And it generated a bit of interesting output that I haven't seen before: The folowing Deprecated installed packages were found media-libs/libpng-1.2.43-r1 dev-python/reportlab-2.3-r1 app-i18n/gcin-1.4.7_pre17 sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.31-r9 dev-perl/URI-1.53 dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.22 I don't see anything about this feature in 'man eclean'; does anyone know what this is all about? Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo decapitated
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 01:16:34PM -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: These are the only lines with the word mouse in them. Kevin, what I would try first is to set INPUT_DEVICES=evdev mouse in your /etc/make.conf, then emerge x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse and finally reboot. Unless your mouse needs some special driver it will just work. The advice is to set the appropriate flag in /etc/make.conf NOT what you are doing below to /etc/X11/xorg.conf So I tried the same thing with two statements Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 #InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer #InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDevice evdev InputDevice mouse EndSection That is not exactly the right syntax for Xorg.conf If you are using an xorg.conf and not just using evdev/hal, then you should probably have something more like this in your configuration file: Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/input/mouse1 EndSection ...plus other things. In the InputDevice section for Mouse0, note the Option that sets the Device to /dev/input/mouse1. You will have to set that to the appropriate path to the pointer device. It will most likely by somewhere in /dev/input/ (often just mouse0 or mice, I have a separate touchscreen device so mine is at mouse1). If you do not have a mouse device listed in /dev/input, then you need to check either your kernel configurations or your udev configurations. For more about the proper syntax in xorg.conf, try man xorg.conf. If you are unsure about how to write your xorg.conf file, post its full contents to the list and we'll take a look at it. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can't create file but disk isn't full
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:25:08AM +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: The 5% is historical from days when disks are much smaller. If you have a sensible partition scheme you only really need to reserve the blocks on the $ROOT filesystem. If the partition in question (IIRC) is only for /home, then you can just turn off the reserved blocks all together. Isn't another purpose of those 5% the reduction of fragmentation that occurs more when there is few free space left? Although I also reduce ift on very large partitions. But I never set it to exactly zero. Perhaps? I don't know. My ext3 partitions with 0% are all for large files (videos and music) that are more or less static, so I can't say anything about fragmentation on them. My other partitions are all reiser, so can't say anything about fragmentation on them either :) W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can't create file but disk isn't full
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 07:39:01PM -0300, Crístian Viana wrote: what exactly is this reserved block count? is it about the number of inodes? does that mean that, by default, regular users can only use 95% of the inodes? and why did I use all these inodes? I don't think I have that many small files on this partition... When the filesystem fills up, services can start failing left and right because they cannot write logs, cannot write temp files, etc. At this point human intervention is necessary: root has to log in and clear out the disk. But if the $ROOT filesystem is completely full, one may not even be able to log in and/or that one cannot do any sort of maintenance that is needed. So you have some sort of circularity. (In which case you have to reboot, perhaps using another medium...) The way out is to reserve some breathing room for root so that when everybody else is having problems he can still get in and fix the problem. The 5% is historical from days when disks are much smaller. If you have a sensible partition scheme you only really need to reserve the blocks on the $ROOT filesystem. If the partition in question (IIRC) is only for /home, then you can just turn off the reserved blocks all together. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Frozen after Upgrade
On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 04:56:04PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I don't understand what you mean by booting to a single user maintenance mode. How do I do that? At the grub menu, select the kernel you wish to boot. Press e Move cursor to the kernel line Press e Move cursor to the end of the line. Append 1 or single Uh, I thought that, per discussions a few weeks ago, we've concluded that in Gentoo that will still land you in the default runlevel. Instead you should append softlevel=single to the end of the line, and continue from hereon. Press enter Press b Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] acroread-9.3.2 produces invalid postscript?
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:19:13AM +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote: I have very bad experience with acroread-9.3.2. Some printers (claiming to support postscript level 3) just hang. When I first 'print' to a file, gv only shows some part of each page and evince just hangs. Has anybody similar experience? (Yes, I can use xpdf, but acroread has the nice feature of printing several pages on a sheet of paper which is very handy when printing slides of a presentation) Not a solution: I've given up on using acroread long time ago. But I am pretty sure that evince can also print multiple pages per sheet, and since you mentioned it earlier: why not use it instead? Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] xypic wants ruby?
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:27:52PM +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote: I need dev-texlive/texlive-pictures because it seems that's what provides xy-pic. Why in Hell am I obliged to install ruby? I currently have no use for it. I can't begin to imagine why this particular programming language should be a must... Nothing in the use flags suggests a clue, for me anyway... Probably because it installs a heck lot more than just xypic? The full list gives asyfig autoarea bardiag cachepic combinedgraphics circuitikz curve curve2e curves dcpic diagmac2 doc-pictex dottex dot2texi dratex eepic epspdf epspdfconversion fig4latex gnuplottex here hvfloat miniplot pb-diagram petri-nets pgf-soroban pgfopts pgfplots picinpar pict2e pictex pictex2 pinlabel pmgraph randbild schemabloc swimgraf texdraw tikz-inet tikz-qtree tikz-timing tkz-doc tkz-linknodes tkz-tab tufte-latex xypic collection-pictures Ruby is a RDEPEND; if you are interested you certainly can try Googling to find out which in the above list is the offender. One that I recognize which requires a ruby runtime is the converter epspdf. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:45:27AM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: /dev/fd/0 is /dev/stdin I learned something new, thanks :) To complete your education :) fd stands for file descriptor. fd/0 = stdin fd/1 = stdout fd/2 = stderr You can create your own file descriptors and use them to manipulate opened files. See man bash for more info. (It is, for example, necessary if you do CLI scripting with a user interface using Dialog.) Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] X crashes, how to troubleshoot?
On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 11:57:32AM -0400, AJ Spagnoletti wrote: This is a late reply and you might have already solved the issue, however, I was running into this problem as well, and it was resolved for my by backing my X packages back down to stable as I was running a stable kernel. Another fix was to upgrade to an unstable X. I was informed that there have bee problems mixing unstable drivers and stable kernel. Hope this helps Thanks. I've already downgraded to an older version of the intel X driver, which seems to have fixed the issue. Unfortunately I haven't been able to get KMS working with the newer kernels (on boot it does not detect the laptop's LCD and blanks out), so I am stuck with not-upgrading the X drivers for the moment being. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
