Re: [gentoo-user] X was crash at login window (gdm)

2012-10-28 Thread sam new
believe or not, I have double checked the /etc/ini.d , there is no service
script udev-postmount since Udev-180.
I downgrade to Udev-171-r8 and  all things goes well ,udev-postmount
service has auto started at runlevel,I can enter the X now ,but has
something wrong with Gnome3.4 .and It gets fallback mode maybe recompile
packages that depend Udev can fix this . Thank you

On 27 October 2012 02:17, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote:

 121026 sam new top-posted:

 Please try to remember not to do that (smile).

  On 25 October 2012 23:40, Philip Webb pursl...@ca.inter.net wrote:
  121025 sam new wrote:
  I do not like to  update my gentoo frequently cause compile takes
  a long time, but I decided to upgrade my Xorg server to 1.13
  and gentoo-source kernel 3.6.2 .
  Is this another case of not noticing the warning when updating Udev
  to run 'rc-update add udev-postmount' ?
  I can not find service udev-postmount.
  Udev version is 194, services udev and udev-mount start at runlevel.

 It was part of the update to  udev-171-r8 , so it sb in  -194 .
  -mount-postmount  are different  both sb in  /etc/init.d/ .

 --
 ,,
 SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
 ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
 TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca





Re: [gentoo-user] X was crash at login window (gdm)

2012-10-26 Thread sam new
I can not find service udev-postmount ,Udev version is 194 , services udev
and udev-mount start at runlevel

On 25 October 2012 23:40, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote:

 121025 sam new wrote:
  I do not like to  update my gentoo frequently cause compile takes
  a long time, but I decided to upgrade my Xorg server to 1.13
  and gentoo-source kernel 3.6.2 .

 Is this another case of not noticing the warning when updating Udev
 to run 'rc-update add udev-postmount' ?

 --
 ,,
 SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
 ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
 TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca





[gentoo-user] X was crash at login window (gdm)

2012-10-25 Thread sam new
hi all , I do not like to  update my gentoo frequently cause compile takes
me a long time,but some days ago, I decided to upgrade my Xorg server to
1.13 and gentoo-source kernel 3.6.2 . it sucks me . the X was crash at
login window, the screen was blank. sometimes you can see the mouse loading
with the circle.I try to fix this as follows ,but it didn't work. (my video
card is Nvidia Geforce 8400M)  my Xorg.conf use nvidia-xconfig auto to
generate.
1.update Nvidia driver to latest (304.43?) in the portage (
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64)
2.download latest Nvidia driver form Nvidia Official website and install it
3 dowgrade Nvidia driver in the portage

the  attachment is my Xorg.log file ,you also can see it here
http://pastebin.com/FZy7TRsf
the ERROR is

   1. NVIDIA(0): Error recovery failed.

does anybody  can help? or any suggestions?


Xorg.0.log.old
Description: Binary data


[gentoo-user] X was crash at login window (gdm)

2012-10-25 Thread sam new
hi all , I do not like to  update my gentoo frequently cause compile takes
me a long time,but some days ago, I decided to upgrade my Xorg server to
1.13 and gentoo-source kernel 3.6.2 . it sucks me . the X was crash at
login window, the screen was blank. sometimes you can see the mouse loading
with the circle.I try to fix this as follows ,but it didn't work. (my video
card is Nvidia Geforce 8400M)  my Xorg.conf use nvidia-xconfig auto to
generate.
1.update Nvidia driver to latest (304.43?) in the portage (
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64)
2.download latest Nvidia driver form Nvidia Official website and install it
3 dowgrade Nvidia driver in the portage

the  attachment is my Xorg.log file ,you also can see it here
http://pastebin.com/FZy7TRsf
the ERROR is

   1. NVIDIA(0): Error recovery failed.

does anybody  can help? or any suggestions?


Xorg.0.log.old
Description: Binary data


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: i486

2010-11-26 Thread sam new
thanks mick ,that not my meaning,  it is not about how to install gentoo

On 26 November 2010 16:58, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Friday 26 November 2010 06:07:58 sam new wrote:
   Thanks all, I have a question , when we build the system, always use
 host
  client to build the toolchain , then GCC Glibc ...kernel some unity ...
  from source ,but where the frist system come from ,does it build using
 the
  Assembly language or machine language? I mean just give you X86 hardware
  and power , no OS, no livd cd . I am afraid it is out of this topic.but
 it
  always puzzled me :-)

 You need a LiveCD and a *good* reason (unless you're just playing) to build
 a
 system from stage 1.  Have a read here:

 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-830228-start-0.html
 --
 Regards,
 Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: i486

2010-11-26 Thread sam new
thanks mick ,I am afraid that is not my meaning,  it is not about how to
install gentoo  .
where the frist system come from ,does it build using the
 Assembly language or machine language? I mean just give you X86 hardware
 and power , no OS, no livd cd . how to build

On 26 November 2010 16:58, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Friday 26 November 2010 06:07:58 sam new wrote:
   Thanks all, I have a question , when we build the system, always use
 host
  client to build the toolchain , then GCC Glibc ...kernel some unity ...
  from source ,but where the frist system come from ,does it build using
 the
  Assembly language or machine language? I mean just give you X86 hardware
  and power , no OS, no livd cd . I am afraid it is out of this topic.but
 it
  always puzzled me :-)

 You need a LiveCD and a *good* reason (unless you're just playing) to build
 a
 system from stage 1.  Have a read here:

 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-830228-start-0.html
 --
 Regards,
 Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] the origins of Unix

2010-11-26 Thread sam new
wow, you both  did a good job , I asked lots of people and they did't say
very clear, it suddenly enlightened me, thanks all.

On 26 November 2010 22:32, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Apparently, though unproven, at 16:09 on Friday 26 November 2010, Stroller
 did
 opine thusly:

  On 26/11/2010, at 6:07am, sam new wrote:
   Thanks all, I have a question , when we build the system, always use
 host
   client to build the toolchain , then GCC Glibc ...kernel some unity ...
   from source ,but where the frist system come from ,does it build using
   the Assembly language or machine language? I mean just give you X86
   hardware and power , no OS, no livd cd . I am afraid it is out of this
   topic.but it always puzzled me :-)
 
  I think you want to know which came first - the chicken or the egg?
 
  For a few years, operating systems were indeed written in assembler.
 Then,
  c 1970, Unix was the first operating system written in a higher-level
  programming language, C. Likewise, I guess, the first compilers would be
  written in assembler, until one was written that could compile itself and
  become self-hosting.
 
  Thus new compilers and operating systems can now be written in
 higher-level
  languages (although C isn't very high-level) and compiled using an
  existing compiler.
 
  That Unix was written in C is what has lead to its ubiquity - until then
  every different brand of computer had its own operating system, usually
  written by the manufacturer. Written in assembly, these were
 non-portable.
  Writing the operating system in C allowed it to be ported to different
  hardware architectures, and programs could be written that would run on
  all the different systems out there (as long as those ran Unix).
 
  Linux was written on a Minix system, Minix was written c 1987 and so
 might
  have been written on one of the BSDs that was around then; the BSDs were
  probably written on an ATT Unix.
 
  When Intel produce a new chip - or gcc wants to support a new
 architecture
  - they rewrite the compiler (the backend part of it) to output machine
  code to suit the new chip's instruction set (which will be different from
  that of other chips - PPC vs ARM vs MIPS vs x86). The compiled code is
  then transferred to the new machine and fingers are crossed as everyone
  waits to see if it boots.
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Unix
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compiler
 
  Stroller.

 One could ask the question where did the first assembler come from?

 Just as the first OSes and compilers were written in assembler to bootstrap
 C,
 so the first assemblers were written in hex codes to bootstrap the
 assembler.
 But hex code editors ran software, so where did the first hex code input
 gadget come from?

 And the answer to that is that it was written in binary. Yes that's right -
 a
 panel with 16 toggle switches and a few pushbuttons. Those didn't require
 software as everything was implemented in hardware.

 So now you know :-)


 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: i486

2010-11-25 Thread sam new
I have try LFS (linux from scratch) ,and install gentoo use stage3 .Does
the stage1 installs  like that,Compile the toolchain and build the system?

On 24 November 2010 23:58, David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 08:10:01 +0100, sam new wrote about Re:
 [gentoo-user] Re: i486:

 still do stage 1 installs? sounds good ,any guide or tutorial?

 If you need a tutorial then you aren't ready for doing a stage 1.

 Do a few stage 3 installs first and you will get the hang of what goes
 into those larger tarballs, then you'll be able to build that yourself
 starting from a stage 1.
 --
  Regards,

 Dave  [RLU #314465]
 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
 dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon)
 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: i486

2010-11-25 Thread sam new
 Thanks all, I have a question , when we build the system, always use host
client to build the toolchain , then GCC Glibc ...kernel some unity ... from
source ,but where the frist system come from ,does it build using the
Assembly language or machine language? I mean just give you X86 hardware and
power , no OS, no livd cd . I am afraid it is out of this topic.but it
always puzzled me :-)
On 26 November 2010 03:47, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thursday 25 November 2010 17:40:08 David W Noon wrote:
  On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:10:02 +0100, sam new wrote about Re:
 
  [gentoo-user] Re: i486:
  I have try LFS (linux from scratch) ,and install gentoo use
  stage3 .Does the stage1 installs  like that,Compile the toolchain and
  build the system?
 
  Yes,  You have to use the bootstrap compiler to build GCC, even before
  you build a kernel or glibc.  It's long-winded and fairly technically
  demanding.

 I recall building a few systems in the early days of gentoo.  The funny
 thing
 is that other than burning and booting Knoppix a couple of times I had no
 Linux knowledge or experience.  However, the gentoo handbook held my hand
 step
 by step and all these years later I'm still here.  So, if I could do it, I
 wouldn't really call it technically demanding.  ;-)

 I guess the OP could use something like this, unless there's a better way
 documented somewhere else:

 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/faq.xml#stage12
 --
 Regards,
 Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: i486

2010-11-23 Thread sam new
still do stage 1 installs? sounds good ,any guide or tutorial?

On 24 November 2010 06:45, David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:10:02 +0100, James wrote about [gentoo-user] Re:
 i486:

 David W Noon dwnoon at ntlworld.com writes:
 
 
  Try using i686 instead.
 
 This clearly will not work with a k6 processor
 or the Geode LX. Recall, I want one set of settings
 for the make.conf file

 That part of my follow-up was intended for Neil Bothwick, as I was
 replying to a message of his.

  flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr
  pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mp mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
 
 
 These will not all work with all cpus I previously specified

 Those are *my* flags, for comparison with Neil's.

  To the O.P.: your CHOST should be 'i586-pc-linux-gnu' to support all
  the processors you have listed, and -march=i586 will allow you to
  compile once for all your processors.
 
 OK, it is as I suspected, only use i586 in lieu of i486,
 but with this stage-3 file:
 
 stage3-i486-20101116.tar.bz2

 I'm afraid I still do stage 1 installs, even though the Gentoo dev's
 don't like that.
  --
 Regards,

 Dave  [RLU #314465]
 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
 dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon)
 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*



[gentoo-user] emerge strategy gamew 0ad fail

2010-08-22 Thread sam new
hi all,
0ad game is a strategy game like empire Age ,is an alpha version,so
it is not contained in portage tree*. *I find some ebuild in overlay ,also
find in http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278541 but they all do not
work ,I try to build it use source ,also failed. any one who play this game
can give me an ebuild? or any suggestions about the error ?  here is my
emerg ebuild log sounds like wxGTK problem




**


[gentoo-user] Re: emerge strategy gamew 0ad fail

2010-08-22 Thread sam new
On 22 August 2010 21:00, sam new maoben1...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi all,
 0ad game is a strategy game like empire Age ,is an alpha version,so
 it is not contained in portage tree*. *I find some ebuild in overlay ,also
 find in http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278541 but they all do not
 work ,I try to build it use source ,also failed. any one who play this game
 can give me an ebuild? or any suggestions about the error ?  here is my
 emerg ebuild log sounds like wxGTK problem




 **



[gentoo-user] Re: root in LVM with ext4 as mount ext2

2010-08-12 Thread sam new
any one help?

On 12 August 2010 11:22, sam new maoben1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
I transfer data to a new harddisk  ,and use LVM . when it boots up
 ,the root is mounted as ext2 ,the real filesystem is ext4 ,how should I do ?

 here is /etc/fstab
 /dev/sda5   /boot   ext3noatime 0 1
 /dev/mapper/sysvg-root  /   ext4
 noatime 0 1
 /dev/mapper/sysvg-usr  /usrext4
 noatime 0 1
 /dev/mapper/sysvg-home /home   ext4
 noatime 0 1
 /dev/mapper/sysvg-var  /varext4
 noatime 0 1
 /dev/sda6   noneswapsw  0 0
 /dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  autousers,noauto,ro 0 0
 /dev/sda2   /mnt/cpan   ntfs-3g users   0 0
 /dev/sda3   /mnt/dpan   ntfs-3g users   0 0
 #/dev/sda6   /mnt/epan   ntfs-3g users   0
 0
 #/dev/sda1   /mnt/vbox   ntfs-3g
 users,exec   0 0
 #/dev/fd0   /mnt/floppy autonoauto  0 0

 # glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm for
 # POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink).
 # (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable ramdisk, and will
 #  use almost no memory if not populated with files)
 shm /dev/shmtmpfs
 nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0
 proc/proc   proc
 defaults0 0


 and menu.lst  the initramfs  I use genkernel
  title Gentoo Linux 2.6.34-r1 LVM
 root (hd0,4)
 kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.34-gentoo-r1 dolvm root=/dev/ram0
 real_root=/dev/sysvg/root rootfstype=ext4 init=/linuxrc
 splash=silent,theme:emergence console=tty quiet
 initrd /boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.34-gentoo-r1





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: root in LVM with ext4 as mount ext2

2010-08-12 Thread sam new
thanks, I have google yet maybe wrong keywords ,yes i compiled as
module,does it comiled in kernel can slove the problem?

On 12 August 2010 19:32, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote:

 sam new writes:

  any one help?

 Yes, google. With 'rootfstype=ext4 initrd genkernel' the first hit shows
 bug #221245 (rootfs is incorrectly mounted as ext2). I assume you have
 ext4 compiled as module?

Wonko




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: root in LVM with ext4 as mount ext2

2010-08-12 Thread sam new
I have check it again ,I compile it into the kernel
 On 12 August 2010 19:32, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote:

 sam new writes:

  any one help?

 Yes, google. With 'rootfstype=ext4 initrd genkernel' the first hit shows
 bug #221245 (rootfs is incorrectly mounted as ext2). I assume you have
 ext4 compiled as module?

Wonko




[gentoo-user] root in LVM with ext4 as mount ext2

2010-08-11 Thread sam new
Hi all,
   I transfer data to a new harddisk  ,and use LVM . when it boots up
,the root is mounted as ext2 ,the real filesystem is ext4 ,how should I do ?

here is /etc/fstab
/dev/sda5   /boot   ext3noatime 0 1
/dev/mapper/sysvg-root  /   ext4
noatime 0 1
/dev/mapper/sysvg-usr  /usrext4
noatime 0 1
/dev/mapper/sysvg-home /home   ext4
noatime 0 1
/dev/mapper/sysvg-var  /varext4
noatime 0 1
/dev/sda6   noneswapsw  0 0
/dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  autousers,noauto,ro 0 0
/dev/sda2   /mnt/cpan   ntfs-3g users   0 0
/dev/sda3   /mnt/dpan   ntfs-3g users   0 0
#/dev/sda6   /mnt/epan   ntfs-3g users   0 0
#/dev/sda1   /mnt/vbox   ntfs-3g
users,exec   0 0
#/dev/fd0   /mnt/floppy autonoauto  0 0

# glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm for
# POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink).
# (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable ramdisk, and will
#  use almost no memory if not populated with files)
shm /dev/shmtmpfs
nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0
proc/proc   proc
defaults0 0


and menu.lst  the initramfs  I use genkernel
 title Gentoo Linux 2.6.34-r1 LVM
root (hd0,4)
kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.34-gentoo-r1 dolvm root=/dev/ram0
real_root=/dev/sysvg/root rootfstype=ext4 init=/linuxrc
splash=silent,theme:emergence console=tty quiet
initrd /boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.34-gentoo-r1


Re: [gentoo-user] pecl-cairo ~x86 overlay?

2010-07-31 Thread sam new
I just think that maybe in Ebuild the keyword is ~amd64 what the ebuild
maintainer** do , it means that the maintainer just tested  in arch amd64
not x86. if you want to install in x86,you can modify ebuild and add
~x86,maybe it works ,that is my opinion.

On 31 July 2010 10:29, Michael M thecr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello list, I need to install Cairo bindings for dev-lang/php-5*.  Is there
 a pecl-cairo overlay for ~x86?  I've tried unmasking this package and adding
 the keyword ~amd64 and it seems to want to install with emerge but my system
 is ~x86.

 According to this site it is only ~amd64, but I cannot understand why.
 http://gpo.zugaina.org/dev-php5/pecl-cairo

 Thanks for any help.

 --
 Hope is more than just a postponed disappointment ~ Epica




Re: [gentoo-user] timed out rsync error:

2010-07-29 Thread sam new
Although the problem has been sloved ,I want give you an  advice , If you
are behind a firewall that blocks rsync traffic, you can use
emerge-webrsyncwhich will download and install a portage snapshot for
you.

On 29 July 2010 13:55, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

  Valmor de Almeida wrote:

 Dale wrote:


 Valmor de Almeida wrote:


 Mick wrote:



 On 26 July 2010 17:24, Valmor de Almeidaval.gen...@gmail.com
 wrote:



 I am still running into the same problem since a couple of days ago. I
 tried both

 SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
 SYNC=rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage

 Is anyone having issues with syncing the portage tree?






 -   emerge --sync



  Starting rsync with rsync://88.198.83.250/gentoo-portage...
 Checking server timestamp ...



 timed out
 rsync error: received SIGINT, SIGTERM, or SIGHUP (code 20) at
 rsync.c(544) [receiver=3.0.6]



  Retrying...



 [snip ...]




 Alejandro Pino Oreamuno wrote:



 same problem here with 134.68.240.59 , 88.198.83.249 , 88.198.83.250
 ,
 140.211.166.189



 For a couple of weeks I was having problems with
 rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage and changed it to
 rsync://rsync.uk.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage - you may want to change it
 to the mirror which is nearest to you (and works).  Either try
 mirrorselect -i -r -o   /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf to automatically
 find a suitable rsync server, have a look here for your nearest rsync
 server and set it up manually:

 http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors-rsync.xml



 I tried many of those rsync servers in the gentoo web site. No luck.
 Maybe my system is broken. I even tried the uk rsync. Don't know where
 to go from here...

 Thanks,


 --
 Valmor



 I just synced to this server.  It worked fine.  You may want to try it.
 If it doesn't work, then you know something is wrong on your end, if it
 does, then there is something weird going on.  From my make.conf:

 SYNC=rsync://rsync21.us.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage

 By the way, they don't limit the number of syncs you can do each day
 either.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)



 Thanks for the info. It just worked; weird.

 --
 Valmor




 Could be a problem between you and the other servers or something.  Who
 knows.  Weird things happen.  Just glad that worked and you at least can
 sync now.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)




Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove HAL

2010-07-29 Thread sam new
maybe I am a perfectionist ,aha:) so want to remove it completely ,although
HAL is  just installed and do not  use it .maybe try to modify gnome-mount
ebuild or let it be ;-)

On 29 July 2010 14:39, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thursday 29 July 2010 04:26:09 sam new wrote:
  I use emerge -avuNDt world ,just find out that is
  gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.8-r1 is depend HAL

 Yes, hal is required for gnome-mount-0.8-r1, it is not optional

 You must either have hal or not have gnome-mount

 But what's the problem? hal can be installed, you don't have to USE it.


 
  On 28 July 2010 23:08, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
   I can't understand what you have typed.
  
   Please run emerge -avuNDt world and post the entire output here.
  
   On Wednesday 28 July 2010 15:34:23 sam new wrote:
I use emerge -avuNDt world ,find out that is
  
gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.8-r1
  
,and also check the ebuild that depends hal .but I mask it in the
package.mask why still emerge gnome-mount and hal ,maybe gnome-mount
depends hal,and others depends gnome-mount ,how can I do?
   
On 28 July 2010 13:01, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 On Wednesday 28 July 2010 04:44:23 sam new wrote:
  Hi All,
 
 As we know, HAL is not used by Xorg for output devices or
 any

 other

  devices,so I want to remove it completely,I set USE=-hal in
  /etc/make.conf ,and recompile  the packages, and also modify
  /etc/conf.d/xdm with NEED_HALD=no ,exec rc-update del hal
 default
  .All things goes well ,yesterday,I use emerge to update my world
  ,in the list still has a hal package, I don't know why system
  sitll
  
   emerge
  
  hal? maybe dependence ,but I use 'equery d hal' and  check
 packages
  which depend HAL ,have no idea ,any Suggestions?

 emerge -avuNDt world


 to get a tree view of dependencies. That will should just what is
  
   causing
  
 hal
 to be pulled in



 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
  
   --
  
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

 --
  alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com




Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove HAL

2010-07-28 Thread sam new
I use emerge -avuNDt world ,find out that is  gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.8-r1
,and also check the ebuild that depends hal .but I mask it in the
package.mask why still emerge gnome-mount and hal ,maybe gnome-mount depends
hal,and others depends gnome-mount ,how can I do?

On 28 July 2010 13:01, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wednesday 28 July 2010 04:44:23 sam new wrote:
  Hi All,
 As we know, HAL is not used by Xorg for output devices or any
 other
  devices,so I want to remove it completely,I set USE=-hal in
  /etc/make.conf ,and recompile  the packages, and also modify
  /etc/conf.d/xdm with NEED_HALD=no ,exec rc-update del hal default .All
  things goes well ,yesterday,I use emerge to update my world ,in the list
  still has a hal package, I don't know why system sitll emerge hal? maybe
  dependence ,but I use 'equery d hal' and  check packages which depend HAL
  ,have no idea ,any Suggestions?


 emerge -avuNDt world


 to get a tree view of dependencies. That will should just what is causing
 hal
 to be pulled in



 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how to remove HAL

2010-07-28 Thread sam new
They think that they can remove HAL and still have stuff like USB
hotplugging/automounting working,in Xorg 1.8, udev will replace HAL  . we
can use devicekit-disks package to mount USB stick or CD,USE polkit-gnome or
ntfs3g  to mount NTFS filesystem. so HAL is not needed.may be modify
gnome-mount ebuild ,remove HAL depedency and put it in local OVERLAY .maybe
slove the problem.

On 29 July 2010 02:50, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:

 On 07/28/2010 08:23 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:

 On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:31:21 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

 And why do you want to remove it in the first place?  It's not gonna
 eat your cat.


 Although it may kill your crew.


 I think most people don't understand what X used HAL for.  They think that
 they can remove HAL and still have stuff like USB hotplugging/automounting
 working.  But that's wrong.  Gnome/KDE use HAL for this, not X.  And if you
 disable HAL completely, that stuff will stop working.





Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove HAL

2010-07-28 Thread sam new
I use emerge -avuNDt world ,just find out that is
gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.8-r1 is depend HAL

On 28 July 2010 23:08, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can't understand what you have typed.

 Please run emerge -avuNDt world and post the entire output here.



 On Wednesday 28 July 2010 15:34:23 sam new wrote:
  I use emerge -avuNDt world ,find out that is
  gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.8-r1
  ,and also check the ebuild that depends hal .but I mask it in the
  package.mask why still emerge gnome-mount and hal ,maybe gnome-mount
  depends hal,and others depends gnome-mount ,how can I do?
 
  On 28 July 2010 13:01, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Wednesday 28 July 2010 04:44:23 sam new wrote:
Hi All,
   
   As we know, HAL is not used by Xorg for output devices or any
  
   other
  
devices,so I want to remove it completely,I set USE=-hal in
/etc/make.conf ,and recompile  the packages, and also modify
/etc/conf.d/xdm with NEED_HALD=no ,exec rc-update del hal default
.All things goes well ,yesterday,I use emerge to update my world ,in
the list still has a hal package, I don't know why system sitll
 emerge
hal? maybe dependence ,but I use 'equery d hal' and  check packages
which depend HAL ,have no idea ,any Suggestions?
  
   emerge -avuNDt world
  
  
   to get a tree view of dependencies. That will should just what is
 causing
   hal
   to be pulled in
  
  
  
   --
   alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

 --
  alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com




[gentoo-user] how to remove HAL

2010-07-27 Thread sam new
Hi All,
   As we know, HAL is not used by Xorg for output devices or any other
devices,so I want to remove it completely,I set USE=-hal in /etc/make.conf
,and recompile  the packages, and also modify  /etc/conf.d/xdm with
NEED_HALD=no ,exec rc-update del hal default .All things goes well
,yesterday,I use emerge to update my world ,in the list still has a hal
package, I don't know why system sitll emerge hal? maybe dependence ,but I
use 'equery d hal' and  check packages which depend HAL ,have no idea ,any
Suggestions?




best regards,
samnew