[gentoo-user] Re: Something eats my memory - please help
Am Sun, 9 Apr 2017 23:40:15 +0200 schrieb David Haller <gen...@dhaller.de>: > Hello, > > On Sun, 09 Apr 2017, Kai Krakow wrote: > >Am Sun, 9 Apr 2017 19:09:23 +0200 > >schrieb David Haller <gen...@dhaller.de>: > > > >> On Sun, 09 Apr 2017, Kai Krakow wrote: > [...] > >> > >> Tell us, why exactly would one need upower again, anyway? > > > >If you don't need it, don't use it. This was an example, not a call > >to use it. > > > >It reports battery status of peripherals for me. > > Surely, there must be other apps to report this for you, besides a > mem-hogging behemoth, that (I guess) actually does not much more than > 'cat /sys/...something'! .5 Gig or even more?? You're kidding me, > right? Riiigghtt? That's just plain insane! Stuff like that > should run in a few KB. Or a few MB with a fancy GUI and DE > integration. It uses 1M of memory currently. The 512M limit I set is just a safety boundary. I don't actually want to limit it, but when it goes havoc it's as least limited. > You could probably do that with a few lines of perl/python/ruby plus > the toolkit of your choice (Tk, Gtk, Qt, Wx, Fltk, ...). Yes, I could probably code everything myself in tiny little scriptlets. But it's not worth the effort. This machine has 16G of memory, it can run full-blown KDE, it uses 5G of memory after fully booted (including two containers, mysql and elasticsearch, for devel purposes), and that boots in 30s from a mixed bcache/btrfs file system. > I e.g. wanted a minmal clock to have while playing movies fullscreen. That's what I have a smartphone for. I don't sit in front of my PC to watch full-screen movies (tho, the TV is connected to the machine). > Result: ~21 lines of generously formatted perl using Tk and a > bold-white-on-black (easily changeable) digital clock with a mere > 38x20 pixels in the right-top-corner (easily changeable). That's a nice solution if you have enough time and want to stay minimal on system pressure. I just want to stay minimal on distractions, so I don't have CPU meters and whatever always visible on screen. I also don't need all those fancy live graphics of memory, disk usage, CPU, load, whatever on the X root window. I never understand what's the purpose of that is anyways because I have multiple windows in front of it. Hence, I even have no icons on the desktop, just some different background images to easily distinguish between energy profiles: I'm using activities to switch between "listen to music", "watch videos/play games", "development", and "browse internet and other desktop activities". And I hardly use menus to start programs: I use the krunner search and a fullscreen launcher for my favorite apps. I really hate those deeply nested menu launchers, I want flat easy structures, searchable. During development I almost only use keyboard shortcuts. > Haven't implemented the "Keep on top" stuff right though yet, but ISTR > that should be possible too with perl/Tk. Or any of the above > mentioned lang/toolkit combos. And the "on-top" stuff also depends on > your WM in the details. That should be pretty much standardized by now, probably you could just call "xprop -set" from your scripts. > And anyway: 'eix batt' spits out e.g. x11-misc/xbatt, > x11-misc/xbattbar, x11-plugins/wmbatteries... Plain old X programs with Tk or xwidgets are exactly not what I am looking for. I seek a visually streamlined desktop, so I mostly exclusively use Qt or KDE programs excepts there's no suitable alternative. So, e.g. I still use gitk a lot although I found git-cola appealing. Still I'm doing lot of git stuff directly on the console. I use git-cola only for fast and easy hunk committing and visual browsing of current workspace status. > As I do just have a normal below-desk PC, I can't help with the > /sys/*batt*? stuff, but if it breaks down to basically displaying the > contents of some files under /sys/ then it's a piece of cake whupping > up an UI displaying that as e.g percent or whatever.) I have a normal below-desk PC, too, hidden inside the desk, and 6 or 7 years old [1]. But I use a wireless mouse and keyboard for working - I don't want cables and lots of stuff visible on or under my desk. And I want some battery warning/status for these devices, integrating with what I run: KDE Plasma. > Probably, I'd just have to change the "update" sub (1 line) of my > clock to read that /sys/-file instead of the time and > whoopididoooda ;) You are free to put it on github or so, I'd even be curious looking at it. > A fancy graphic bar would be a bit more coding. It's always nice when new features integrate easy as I can tell from my own projects, tho I do ruby mostly. > Oh, and have a look at gkrellm and
[gentoo-user] So emerge spoke ...
Hi,
got thsi today instead of a smooth update
Diffing databases (17939 - 17932 packages)
[U] == cross-armv7a-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi/linux-headers (3.18[?]@01/02/15;
(~)3.18^bs - (~)3.19^bs) [1]: Linux system headers
[] == cross-armv7a-softfp-linux-gnueabi/binutils ((~)2.19.1-r1(2.19.1)
2.20.1-r1(2.20.1) 2.21.1-r1(2.21.1) 2.22-r1(2.22) 2.23.2(2.23.2) 2.24-r3 -
(~)2.19.1-r1(2.19.1) 2.20.1-r1(2.20.1) 2.21.1-r1(2.21.1) 2.22-r1(2.22)
2.23.2(2.23.2) 2.24-r3(2.24)) [1]: Tools necessary to build programs
[] == dev-db/mariadb (10.0.15-r1 - 10.0.16): An enhanced, drop-in
replacement for MySQL
[] == dev-games/irrlicht (1.8-r2 - 1.8.1): open source high performance
realtime 3D engine written in C++
[*] == games-action/hotline-miami (~1.0.9a_p20140221^fd -
1.0.9a_p20140221^fd): High-octane action game overflowing with raw brutality
[] == games-arcade/lbreakout2 (2.6.3 - 2.6.4): Breakout clone written with
the SDL library
[] == games-engines/qtads (2.1.5 - 2.1.6): Multimedia interpreter for TADS
text adventures
[*] == games-puzzle/hexalate (~1.0.3 - 1.0.3): A color matching game
[*] == games-puzzle/larry (~1-r1^fd - 1-r1^fd): Leisure Suit Larry Reloaded
[*] == games-puzzle/nightsky (~20111222^fd - 20111222^fd): Puzzle game that
puts you inside and ambient and mysterious universe
[*] == games-puzzle/splice (~20121120^fd - 20121120^fd): An experimental and
artistic puzzler set in a microbial world
[*] == games-puzzle/tiny-and-big (~1.4.1^fd - 1.4.1^fd): Combines elements
of adventure, jumprun and physical puzzles
[] == games-puzzle/xblockout (1.1.5-r1 - 1.1.6): X Window block dropping
game in 3 Dimension
[] == net-misc/asterisk (11.14.2 - 11.15.0-r1): Asterisk: A Modular Open
Source PBX System
[] == x11-base/xorg-server (1.12.4-r3@01/27/15; 1.14.5(0/1.14.5) -
1.12.4-r3(0/1.12.4)): X.Org X servers
app-admin/lxqt-admin (~0.8.0): LXQt system administration tool
net-misc/lxqt-openssh-askpass (~0.8.0): LXQt OpenSSH user password
prompt tool
x11-drivers/psb-firmware ({M}~*0.30_p3): firmware for the intel gma500
(poulsbo)
x11-drivers/xf86-video-cyrix ({M}1.1.0): Cyrix video driver
x11-drivers/xf86-video-impact ({M}~*0.2.0): Impact video driver
x11-drivers/xf86-video-nsc ({M}*2.8.3): Nsc video driver
x11-drivers/xf86-video-sunbw2 ({M}*1.1.0): BW2 video driver
x11-libs/libdrm-poulsbo ({M}~*2.3.0_p9 {M}~*2.3.0_p9-r1): libdrm for
the intel gma500 (poulsbo)
x11-libs/xpsb-glx ({M}~*0.18_p4): glx for the intel gma500 (poulsbo)
[N]lxqt-base/lxqt-admin (~0.8.0): LXQt system administration tool
[N]lxqt-base/lxqt-openssh-askpass (~0.8.0): LXQt OpenSSH user password
prompt tool
* Time statistics:
133 seconds for syncing
132 seconds for eix-update
2 seconds for eix-diff
268 seconds total
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
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[nomerge ] app-crypt/seahorse-3.12.2 USE=-avahi -debug -ldap
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[ebuild U ] app-crypt/p11-kit-0.20.7 [0.20.2] USE=asn1 libffi%* trust
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[ebuild U ] net-irc/hexchat-2.10.2 [2.10.1] USE=dbus gtk ipv6 nls plugins
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