Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply
On Sunday 04 July 2010 05:21:33 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-07-03, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: The computer gods allow me two cock-ups a day. I'm already way over limit and using up half of next week's quota in advance That's what happens when you try to work, answer list mail and watch the World Cup in your back yard all at the same time! Holy crap! They're playing world cup games in your back yard? The vuvuzelas must be driving you to distraction... Oi, you! That's the national musical instrument you're talking about! :-) You get used to it though, like traffic noise. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply
On 2010-07-03, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: The computer gods allow me two cock-ups a day. I'm already way over limit and using up half of next week's quota in advance That's what happens when you try to work, answer list mail and watch the World Cup in your back yard all at the same time! Holy crap! They're playing world cup games in your back yard? The vuvuzelas must be driving you to distraction... -- Grant
[gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-07-02, Nicolas Sebrechtnicolas.s-...@laposte.net wrote: I'm often stucked by the current policy in this mailing list changing the 'Reply-To' header to the mailing list address. Most mailing lists I use don't do that. It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it permit to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole mailing list. What do you think about changing of policy? Like others, I'm happy with this as it is. But YMMV. When they start a new list and it is not set up this way, it causes confusion. This was discussed before on another list. I don't see this changing anytime soon and hope it doesn't. Is there a way for someone to add another address to Reply-To? (Does the list management software overwrite the header or just appends its address?) Such a way would suit the OP and people who don't want duplicate messages at the same time. Meanwhile the OP might want to add a request to be CC'ed to his signature. -- Nuno J. Silva gopher://sdf-eu.org/1/users/njsg
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply
On Friday 02 July 2010 12:01:09 Nuno J. Silva wrote: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-07-02, Nicolas Sebrechtnicolas.s-...@laposte.net wrote: I'm often stucked by the current policy in this mailing list changing the 'Reply-To' header to the mailing list address. Most mailing lists I use don't do that. It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it permit to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole mailing list. What do you think about changing of policy? Like others, I'm happy with this as it is. But YMMV. When they start a new list and it is not set up this way, it causes confusion. This was discussed before on another list. I don't see this changing anytime soon and hope it doesn't. Is there a way for someone to add another address to Reply-To? (Does the list management software overwrite the header or just appends its address?) Such a way would suit the OP and people who don't want duplicate messages at the same time. Meanwhile the OP might want to add a request to be CC'ed to his signature. Or, he could use a mailer that understands mailing lists, like kmail. There are others. Filter list mail into a folder, and tell the mailer it is for a list. Decide how you want to reply and press (the composer deals with it correctly): l - reply to list a - reply to all R - reply to original sender r - reply to whatever seems to be default reply address. So instead of blindly clicking reply and getting all upset about the outcome, just press one key and the mailer obeys YOUR intent. Problem solved. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: On Friday 02 July 2010 12:01:09 Nuno J. Silva wrote: Is there a way for someone to add another address to Reply-To? (Does the list management software overwrite the header or just appends its address?) Such a way would suit the OP and people who don't want duplicate messages at the same time. Meanwhile the OP might want to add a request to be CC'ed to his signature. Or, he could use a mailer that understands mailing lists, like kmail. There are others. Filter list mail into a folder, and tell the mailer it is for a list. Decide how you want to reply and press (the composer deals with it correctly): l - reply to list a - reply to all R - reply to original sender r - reply to whatever seems to be default reply address. So instead of blindly clicking reply and getting all upset about the outcome, just press one key and the mailer obeys YOUR intent. Problem solved. But, if I understand it correctly, what the OP wants is others to mail him too, so he receives replies without being subscribed. Having a mail client with those abilities is of no use for him, nor for anyone unless they know what the person they're replying to desires. (But now I wonder how to know if a person replied by a reply we're replying wants to be CCed...) Or is Nicolas looking to reply to everyone when he writes? That would be bad, as there are people who prefer to receive messages through the list or using NNTP. -- Nuno J. Silva gopher://sdf-eu.org/1/users/njsg
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply
Nuno J. Silva wrote: Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: On Friday 02 July 2010 12:01:09 Nuno J. Silva wrote: Is there a way for someone to add another address to Reply-To? (Does the list management software overwrite the header or just appends its address?) Such a way would suit the OP and people who don't want duplicate messages at the same time. Meanwhile the OP might want to add a request to be CC'ed to his signature. Or, he could use a mailer that understands mailing lists, like kmail. There are others. Filter list mail into a folder, and tell the mailer it is for a list. Decide how you want to reply and press (the composer deals with it correctly): l - reply to list a - reply to all R - reply to original sender r - reply to whatever seems to be default reply address. So instead of blindly clicking reply and getting all upset about the outcome, just press one key and the mailer obeys YOUR intent. Problem solved. But, if I understand it correctly, what the OP wants is others to mail him too, so he receives replies without being subscribed. Having a mail client with those abilities is of no use for him, nor for anyone unless they know what the person they're replying to desires. (But now I wonder how to know if a person replied by a reply we're replying wants to be CCed...) Or is Nicolas looking to reply to everyone when he writes? That would be bad, as there are people who prefer to receive messages through the list or using NNTP. If he is not subscribed, how did he send a email to the list anyway? Don't you have to be subscribed to the list to send a email to it? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply
On Friday 02 July 2010 12:38:05 Nuno J. Silva wrote: Or is Nicolas looking to reply to everyone when he writes? That would be bad, as there are people who prefer to receive messages through the list or using NNTP. I think Nicolas is seeking to get mail to do something it was not designed to do. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply
On 2010-07-02, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 02 July 2010 12:01:09 Nuno J. Silva wrote: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-07-02, Nicolas Sebrechtnicolas.s-...@laposte.net wrote: I'm often stucked by the current policy in this mailing list changing the 'Reply-To' header to the mailing list address. Most mailing lists I use don't do that. It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it permit to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole mailing list. Or, he could use a mailer that understands mailing lists, like kmail. There are others. Filter list mail into a folder, and tell the mailer it is for a list. Decide how you want to reply and press (the composer deals with it correctly): l - reply to list a - reply to all R - reply to original sender r - reply to whatever seems to be default reply address. So instead of blindly clicking reply and getting all upset about the outcome, just press one key and the mailer obeys YOUR intent. His intent is to receive direct replies to his posts. I don't see how his choice of mail client has any impact on that. Problem solved. Not really. The OP's choice of mail client isn't going to change what happens when people reply to his postings. He wants reply-to to contain his address as well as the list address so that he gets a direct response and doesn't have to bother to check the mailing list for replies. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Hey, wait at a minute!! I want a gmail.comdivorce!! ... you're not Clint Eastwood!!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 14:19:36 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: Not really. The OP's choice of mail client isn't going to change what happens when people reply to his postings. He wants reply-to to contain his address as well as the list address so that he gets a direct response and doesn't have to bother to check the mailing list for replies. So he wants other people to take the trouble to reply, but he won't take the trouble to look for the replies? If he really finds it so difficult to look for replies to his mails (some mailers will highlight them), he could always set up a filter to copy replies to him to his mailbox. You don't always need everyone else to change to get what you want. -- Neil Bothwick A TRUE Klingon warrior does not comment his code! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply
On 2010-07-02, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 14:19:36 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: Not really. The OP's choice of mail client isn't going to change what happens when people reply to his postings. He wants reply-to to contain his address as well as the list address so that he gets a direct response and doesn't have to bother to check the mailing list for replies. So he wants other people to take the trouble to reply, but he won't take the trouble to look for the replies? That's the way it read to me. If that's not what the OP meant, then I apologize for misunderstanding what he wrote. If he really finds it so difficult to look for replies to his mails (some mailers will highlight them), he could always set up a filter to copy replies to him to his mailbox. Yup. Since the mailing list is already sending him a reply, why he wants a second one is beyond me. You don't always need everyone else to change to get what you want. Well, I know some people who are like that... -- Grant
[gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply
On 2010-07-02, Nicolas Sebrecht nicolas.s-...@laposte.net wrote: I'm often stucked by the current policy in this mailing list changing the 'Reply-To' header to the mailing list address. Most mailing lists I use don't do that. It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it permit to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole mailing list. What do you think about changing of policy? I'd rather not get replies sent directly to my address, so I prefer it the way it is. -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-07-02, Nicolas Sebrechtnicolas.s-...@laposte.net wrote: I'm often stucked by the current policy in this mailing list changing the 'Reply-To' header to the mailing list address. Most mailing lists I use don't do that. It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it permit to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole mailing list. What do you think about changing of policy? I'd rather not get replies sent directly to my address, so I prefer it the way it is. +1 When they start a new list and it is not set up this way, it causes confusion. This was discussed before on another list. I don't see this changing anytime soon and hope it doesn't. Dale :-) :-)
