Re: [gentoo-user] TOR-Browser Bundle: And the rest was silence...

[Pavel Volkov]

On вторник, 9 февраля 2016 г. 10:38:08 MSK, Andrew Savchenko wrote:

While such background traffic can be redirected to tor using tsocks
and iptables, this is not very trivial task. That is why tor browser
is useful: it does such stuff for you by ensuring that all browser
traffic is going via tor. You may use torbrowser overlay to use
this package in Gentoo.


I'd put the browser into a separate network namespace just to be sure they 
don't access the regular eth0. I've done it with both Chromium and Firefox 
in the past.


Still, Tor is mostly about anonimity and a user can't anonymize their 
browser fingerprints to sufficient level with such setup.
A website owner can also disclose your location through JavaScript 
(namespacing should prevent this, though).
I also vote for using Tor browser and do a research on their web resources 
why video stopped working (it definetely was OK in the past).

Re: [gentoo-user] TOR-Browser Bundle: And the rest was silence...

[Meino . Cramer]

Willie Matthews  [16-02-11 16:40]:
> On 02/07/2016 10:51 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Willie Matthews  [16-02-08 06:04]:
> >> On 02/06/2016 10:08 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I got a interesting problem:
> >>>
> >>> When using Firefox 44, I can watch Videos for
> >>> example from YouTube and can hear the audio.
> >>>
> >>> When using the newest TOR-Browser bundle, videos
> >>> are playing fine...but without any sound.
> >>>
> >>> I have no clue, what happens here.
> >>>
> >>> Any help to fix that is very appreciated...
> >>> thank you very much in advance!
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Meino
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> It is a lot easier to use the tor network by installing net-misc/tor and
> >> setting up the proxy on whatever browser you use.
> >>
> >> For instance I use Chrome. I setup a shortcut on my desktop that gives
> >> me a a new incognito window that is using the proxy for all connections
> >> and the /tmp/chrome directory for the user directory.
> >>
> >> [Desktop Entry]
> >> Version=1.0
> >> Type=Application
> >> Name=Chrome with Tor
> >> Comment=Start Chrome with Tor
> >> Exec=google-chrome-beta --incognito
> >> --proxy-server="socks5://127.0.0.1:9050" --user-data-dir="/tmp/chrome/"
> >> Icon=google-chrome-unstable
> >> Path=
> >> Terminal=false
> >> StartupNotify=false
> >>
> >> I haven't had any problems using it this way so far. I hope that you
> >> will have the same results.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >>
> >> Willie Matthews
> >> matthews.willi...@gmail.com
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Willie,
> > 
> > regarding the audio problem: Do you play video via Adobe flash
> > (or any other Flash) player or do you use HTML5 (or any other
> > different than Flash) ?
> > 
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Meino
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
>  I use the built in pepper flash.
> 

The TOR guys warn not to use flash.

Best regards,
Meino



> -- 
> 
> Willie Matthews
> matthews.willi...@gmail.com
> (702) 659-9966
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] TOR-Browser Bundle: And the rest was silence...

[Willie Matthews]

On 02/08/2016 11:38 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 14:13:33 -0800 Willie Matthews wrote:
>> On 02/06/2016 10:08 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I got a interesting problem:
>>>
>>> When using Firefox 44, I can watch Videos for
>>> example from YouTube and can hear the audio.
>>>
>>> When using the newest TOR-Browser bundle, videos
>>> are playing fine...but without any sound.
>>>
>>> I have no clue, what happens here.
>>>
>>> Any help to fix that is very appreciated...
>>> thank you very much in advance!
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Meino
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> It is a lot easier to use the tor network by installing net-misc/tor and
>> setting up the proxy on whatever browser you use.
>>
>> For instance I use Chrome. I setup a shortcut on my desktop that gives
>> me a a new incognito window that is using the proxy for all connections
>> and the /tmp/chrome directory for the user directory.
>>
>> [Desktop Entry]
>> Version=1.0
>> Type=Application
>> Name=Chrome with Tor
>> Comment=Start Chrome with Tor
>> Exec=google-chrome-beta --incognito
>> --proxy-server="socks5://127.0.0.1:9050" --user-data-dir="/tmp/chrome/"
>> Icon=google-chrome-unstable
>> Path=
>> Terminal=false
>> StartupNotify=false
>>
>> I haven't had any problems using it this way so far. I hope that you
>> will have the same results.
> 
> Be aware of privacy issues with such setup. Your browser may leak
> DNS requests, e.g. use standard system calls and they will be sent
> over casual network (not TOR), thus your provider will know what
> resources your are visiting as well as owner of DNS service you use.
> Chrome may leak other data in background as well.
> 
> While such background traffic can be redirected to tor using tsocks
> and iptables, this is not very trivial task. That is why tor browser
> is useful: it does such stuff for you by ensuring that all browser
> traffic is going via tor. You may use torbrowser overlay to use
> this package in Gentoo.
> 
> Best regards,
> Andrew Savchenko
> 
Thanks for the heads up. I will have to look into if it is leaking
information.

-- 

Willie Matthews
matthews.willi...@gmail.com
(702) 659-9966



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Re: [gentoo-user] TOR-Browser Bundle: And the rest was silence...

[Willie Matthews]

On 02/07/2016 10:51 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Willie Matthews  [16-02-08 06:04]:
>> On 02/06/2016 10:08 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I got a interesting problem:
>>>
>>> When using Firefox 44, I can watch Videos for
>>> example from YouTube and can hear the audio.
>>>
>>> When using the newest TOR-Browser bundle, videos
>>> are playing fine...but without any sound.
>>>
>>> I have no clue, what happens here.
>>>
>>> Any help to fix that is very appreciated...
>>> thank you very much in advance!
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Meino
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> It is a lot easier to use the tor network by installing net-misc/tor and
>> setting up the proxy on whatever browser you use.
>>
>> For instance I use Chrome. I setup a shortcut on my desktop that gives
>> me a a new incognito window that is using the proxy for all connections
>> and the /tmp/chrome directory for the user directory.
>>
>> [Desktop Entry]
>> Version=1.0
>> Type=Application
>> Name=Chrome with Tor
>> Comment=Start Chrome with Tor
>> Exec=google-chrome-beta --incognito
>> --proxy-server="socks5://127.0.0.1:9050" --user-data-dir="/tmp/chrome/"
>> Icon=google-chrome-unstable
>> Path=
>> Terminal=false
>> StartupNotify=false
>>
>> I haven't had any problems using it this way so far. I hope that you
>> will have the same results.
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Willie Matthews
>> matthews.willi...@gmail.com
>>
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Willie,
> 
> regarding the audio problem: Do you play video via Adobe flash
> (or any other Flash) player or do you use HTML5 (or any other
> different than Flash) ?
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Meino
> 
> 
> 

 I use the built in pepper flash.

-- 

Willie Matthews
matthews.willi...@gmail.com
(702) 659-9966



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Re: [gentoo-user] TOR-Browser Bundle: And the rest was silence...

[Mick]

On Tuesday 09 Feb 2016 10:38:08 Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 14:13:33 -0800 Willie Matthews wrote:
> > On 02/06/2016 10:08 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I got a interesting problem:
> > > 
> > > When using Firefox 44, I can watch Videos for
> > > example from YouTube and can hear the audio.
> > > 
> > > When using the newest TOR-Browser bundle, videos
> > > are playing fine...but without any sound.
> > > 
> > > I have no clue, what happens here.
> > > 
> > > Any help to fix that is very appreciated...
> > > thank you very much in advance!
> > > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > Meino
> > 
> > It is a lot easier to use the tor network by installing net-misc/tor and
> > setting up the proxy on whatever browser you use.
> > 
> > For instance I use Chrome. I setup a shortcut on my desktop that gives
> > me a a new incognito window that is using the proxy for all connections
> > and the /tmp/chrome directory for the user directory.
> > 
> > [Desktop Entry]
> > Version=1.0
> > Type=Application
> > Name=Chrome with Tor
> > Comment=Start Chrome with Tor
> > Exec=google-chrome-beta --incognito
> > --proxy-server="socks5://127.0.0.1:9050" --user-data-dir="/tmp/chrome/"
> > Icon=google-chrome-unstable
> > Path=
> > Terminal=false
> > StartupNotify=false
> > 
> > I haven't had any problems using it this way so far. I hope that you
> > will have the same results.
> 
> Be aware of privacy issues with such setup. Your browser may leak
> DNS requests, e.g. use standard system calls and they will be sent
> over casual network (not TOR), thus your provider will know what
> resources your are visiting as well as owner of DNS service you use.
> Chrome may leak other data in background as well.
> 
> While such background traffic can be redirected to tor using tsocks
> and iptables, this is not very trivial task. That is why tor browser
> is useful: it does such stuff for you by ensuring that all browser
> traffic is going via tor. You may use torbrowser overlay to use
> this package in Gentoo.
> 
> Best regards,
> Andrew Savchenko

Have you tested Chromium and Firefox and confirmed they do not respect their 
proxy setting and leak DNS data, or are you saying that they might?
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] TOR-Browser Bundle: And the rest was silence...

[Andrew Savchenko]

On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 14:13:33 -0800 Willie Matthews wrote:
> On 02/06/2016 10:08 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I got a interesting problem:
> > 
> > When using Firefox 44, I can watch Videos for
> > example from YouTube and can hear the audio.
> > 
> > When using the newest TOR-Browser bundle, videos
> > are playing fine...but without any sound.
> > 
> > I have no clue, what happens here.
> > 
> > Any help to fix that is very appreciated...
> > thank you very much in advance!
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Meino
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> It is a lot easier to use the tor network by installing net-misc/tor and
> setting up the proxy on whatever browser you use.
> 
> For instance I use Chrome. I setup a shortcut on my desktop that gives
> me a a new incognito window that is using the proxy for all connections
> and the /tmp/chrome directory for the user directory.
> 
> [Desktop Entry]
> Version=1.0
> Type=Application
> Name=Chrome with Tor
> Comment=Start Chrome with Tor
> Exec=google-chrome-beta --incognito
> --proxy-server="socks5://127.0.0.1:9050" --user-data-dir="/tmp/chrome/"
> Icon=google-chrome-unstable
> Path=
> Terminal=false
> StartupNotify=false
> 
> I haven't had any problems using it this way so far. I hope that you
> will have the same results.

Be aware of privacy issues with such setup. Your browser may leak
DNS requests, e.g. use standard system calls and they will be sent
over casual network (not TOR), thus your provider will know what
resources your are visiting as well as owner of DNS service you use.
Chrome may leak other data in background as well.

While such background traffic can be redirected to tor using tsocks
and iptables, this is not very trivial task. That is why tor browser
is useful: it does such stuff for you by ensuring that all browser
traffic is going via tor. You may use torbrowser overlay to use
this package in Gentoo.

Best regards,
Andrew Savchenko


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Re: [gentoo-user] TOR-Browser Bundle: And the rest was silence...

[Francisco Ares]

Em 06/02/2016 16:09,  escreveu:
>
> Hi,
>
> I got a interesting problem:
>
> When using Firefox 44, I can watch Videos for
> example from YouTube and can hear the audio.
>
> When using the newest TOR-Browser bundle, videos
> are playing fine...but without any sound.
>
> I have no clue, what happens here.
>
> Any help to fix that is very appreciated...
> thank you very much in advance!
>
> Best regards,
> Meino
>
>

I use Tor and Privoxy, so regular browsers work just fine after setting up
their proxy settings, of course.

Good luck,
Francisco

Re: [gentoo-user] TOR-Browser Bundle: And the rest was silence...

[Willie Matthews]

On 02/06/2016 10:08 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I got a interesting problem:
> 
> When using Firefox 44, I can watch Videos for
> example from YouTube and can hear the audio.
> 
> When using the newest TOR-Browser bundle, videos
> are playing fine...but without any sound.
> 
> I have no clue, what happens here.
> 
> Any help to fix that is very appreciated...
> thank you very much in advance!
> 
> Best regards,
> Meino
> 
> 
> 

It is a lot easier to use the tor network by installing net-misc/tor and
setting up the proxy on whatever browser you use.

For instance I use Chrome. I setup a shortcut on my desktop that gives
me a a new incognito window that is using the proxy for all connections
and the /tmp/chrome directory for the user directory.

[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Type=Application
Name=Chrome with Tor
Comment=Start Chrome with Tor
Exec=google-chrome-beta --incognito
--proxy-server="socks5://127.0.0.1:9050" --user-data-dir="/tmp/chrome/"
Icon=google-chrome-unstable
Path=
Terminal=false
StartupNotify=false

I haven't had any problems using it this way so far. I hope that you
will have the same results.

-- 

Willie Matthews
matthews.willi...@gmail.com



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Re: [gentoo-user] TOR-Browser Bundle: And the rest was silence...

[Pavel Volkov]

On суббота, 6 февраля 2016 г. 21:08:08 MSK, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

When using the newest TOR-Browser bundle, videos
are playing fine...but without any sound.

I have no clue, what happens here.

Any help to fix that is very appreciated...
thank you very much in advance!


With recent Tor Browser (5.5.1) I can't even play videos (on Youtube).
I remember they played fine before, though.

Re: [gentoo-user] TOR-Browser Bundle: And the rest was silence...

[Meino . Cramer]

Francisco Ares  [16-02-07 13:44]:
> Em 06/02/2016 16:09,  escreveu:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I got a interesting problem:
> >
> > When using Firefox 44, I can watch Videos for
> > example from YouTube and can hear the audio.
> >
> > When using the newest TOR-Browser bundle, videos
> > are playing fine...but without any sound.
> >
> > I have no clue, what happens here.
> >
> > Any help to fix that is very appreciated...
> > thank you very much in advance!
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Meino
> >
> >
> 
> I use Tor and Privoxy, so regular browsers work just fine after setting up
> their proxy settings, of course.
> 
> Good luck,
> Francisco

Hi Francisco,

great that you have no problems with the setup!
Best!

Beat regards
mcc

Re: [gentoo-user] TOR-Browser Bundle: And the rest was silence...

[Meino . Cramer]

Willie Matthews  [16-02-08 06:04]:
> On 02/06/2016 10:08 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I got a interesting problem:
> > 
> > When using Firefox 44, I can watch Videos for
> > example from YouTube and can hear the audio.
> > 
> > When using the newest TOR-Browser bundle, videos
> > are playing fine...but without any sound.
> > 
> > I have no clue, what happens here.
> > 
> > Any help to fix that is very appreciated...
> > thank you very much in advance!
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Meino
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> It is a lot easier to use the tor network by installing net-misc/tor and
> setting up the proxy on whatever browser you use.
> 
> For instance I use Chrome. I setup a shortcut on my desktop that gives
> me a a new incognito window that is using the proxy for all connections
> and the /tmp/chrome directory for the user directory.
> 
> [Desktop Entry]
> Version=1.0
> Type=Application
> Name=Chrome with Tor
> Comment=Start Chrome with Tor
> Exec=google-chrome-beta --incognito
> --proxy-server="socks5://127.0.0.1:9050" --user-data-dir="/tmp/chrome/"
> Icon=google-chrome-unstable
> Path=
> Terminal=false
> StartupNotify=false
> 
> I haven't had any problems using it this way so far. I hope that you
> will have the same results.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Willie Matthews
> matthews.willi...@gmail.com
> 



Hi Willie,

regarding the audio problem: Do you play video via Adobe flash
(or any other Flash) player or do you use HTML5 (or any other
different than Flash) ?


Best regards,
Meino

[gentoo-user] TOR-Browser Bundle: And the rest was silence...

[Meino . Cramer]

Hi,

I got a interesting problem:

When using Firefox 44, I can watch Videos for
example from YouTube and can hear the audio.

When using the newest TOR-Browser bundle, videos
are playing fine...but without any sound.

I have no clue, what happens here.

Any help to fix that is very appreciated...
thank you very much in advance!

Best regards,
Meino