[gentoo-user] vixie cron: PAM ERROR
On a newly installed system, I'm getting error messages from vixie cron about PAM authentication errors: Feb 25 09:52:01 alpha crond[23085]: (root) PAM ERROR (Authentication failure) Feb 25 09:52:01 alpha crond[23085]: (root) FAILED to authorize user with PAM (Authentication failure) Feb 25 09:53:01 alpha cron[23118]: (root) CMD (echo cron ran at $(date) /tmp/cron.out) Feb 25 09:53:01 alpha crond[23122]: (root) PAM ERROR (Authentication failure) Feb 25 09:53:01 alpha crond[23122]: (root) FAILED to authorize user with PAM (Authentication failure) Feb 25 09:54:01 alpha cron[23153]: (root) CMD (echo cron ran at $(date) /tmp/cron.out) Feb 25 09:54:01 alpha crond[23157]: (root) PAM ERROR (Authentication failure) Feb 25 09:54:01 alpha crond[23157]: (root) FAILED to authorize user with PAM (Authentication failure) Feb 25 09:55:01 alpha cron[23160]: (root) CMD (echo cron ran at $(date) /tmp/cron.out) Feb 25 09:55:01 alpha crond[23164]: (root) PAM ERROR (Authentication failure) Feb 25 09:55:01 alpha crond[23164]: (root) FAILED to authorize user with PAM (Authentication failure) AFAICT, it runs the scheduled command except for the very first time. I get the same results with normal user's crontab entries. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Wow! Look!! A stray at meatball!! Let's interview gmail.comit!
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie cron: PAM ERROR
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.comwrote: On a newly installed system, I'm getting error messages from vixie cron about PAM authentication errors: Feb 25 09:52:01 alpha crond[23085]: (root) PAM ERROR (Authentication failure) Feb 25 09:52:01 alpha crond[23085]: (root) FAILED to authorize user with PAM (Authentication failure) Feb 25 09:53:01 alpha cron[23118]: (root) CMD (echo cron ran at $(date) /tmp/cron.out) Feb 25 09:53:01 alpha crond[23122]: (root) PAM ERROR (Authentication failure) Feb 25 09:53:01 alpha crond[23122]: (root) FAILED to authorize user with PAM (Authentication failure) Feb 25 09:54:01 alpha cron[23153]: (root) CMD (echo cron ran at $(date) /tmp/cron.out) Feb 25 09:54:01 alpha crond[23157]: (root) PAM ERROR (Authentication failure) Feb 25 09:54:01 alpha crond[23157]: (root) FAILED to authorize user with PAM (Authentication failure) Feb 25 09:55:01 alpha cron[23160]: (root) CMD (echo cron ran at $(date) /tmp/cron.out) Feb 25 09:55:01 alpha crond[23164]: (root) PAM ERROR (Authentication failure) Feb 25 09:55:01 alpha crond[23164]: (root) FAILED to authorize user with PAM (Authentication failure) AFAICT, it runs the scheduled command except for the very first time. I get the same results with normal user's crontab entries. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Wow! Look!! A stray at meatball!! Let's interview gmail.comit! Sounds like a pam configuration error. Try this? http://www.shanison.com/2012/02/08/crontab-error-failed-to-open-pam-security-session-success/ There are a couple of other blogs too on Google search, but all of them describe 'security error'. Your's seems to be different.
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie-cron keeps stopping
On Friday 16 April 2010 22:25:47 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 16 April 2010 20:29:27 Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 15 April 2010 02:58:15 Matt Harrison wrote: I apologise if this has come twice, it didn't appear to post correctly first time, not even on the archives. Its been happening for a while but I haven't got round to find out why, but every so often (anything between a week or an hour) vixie-cron just stops. There's nothing in the logs, the service just stops. I have no idea where to start looking for a culprit so I'm hoping someone here has some good ideas :) thanks in advance Matt You probably don't want to hear this, but: vixie-cron is problematic in the extreme. I have endless hassle with it's weird behaviours. Use a different cron daemon. I am using vixie as well. It was in the install guide many years ago. What all would have to be changed to switch to fcron? I think some packages detect which cron you have installed and put things in the proper place for cron jobs to run. I could be wrong on that since it has been a while since I noticed packages doing this. emerge -C vixie-cron emerge other cron of your choice You might have to tweak crontabs. I have come to detest with a passion every piece of software written or inspired by Paul Vixie. It took 10-15 years to get bind into a shape where it takes less than 20 minutes to start here, it's low, buggy and performance is pathetic. dhcp is just way too complex for my liking, ... ... and as for vixie-cron: When software doesn't act like it's supposed to, breaks in horrible ways without giving me any clue (like, cron restart works with no known init scripts on any platform I have) and instead says cron restarted [OK], which brings down 5000 Cisco devices as as a nasty side effect, and causes a Severity 0 committee to be called, twice, then that software's remaining life span on my boxes is measured in milliseconds :-) rant over Blimey! That sounds like horribly_broken! Which cron do you recommend for a desktop? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie-cron keeps stopping
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:00:02 +0200, Mick wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] vixie-cron keeps stopping: On Friday 16 April 2010 22:25:47 Alan McKinnon wrote: [snip] ... and as for vixie-cron: When software doesn't act like it's supposed to, breaks in horrible ways without giving me any clue (like, cron restart works with no known init scripts on any platform I have) and instead says cron restarted [OK], which brings down 5000 Cisco devices as as a nasty side effect, and causes a Severity 0 committee to be called, twice, then that software's remaining life span on my boxes is measured in milliseconds :-) rant over Blimey! That sounds like horribly_broken! Which cron do you recommend for a desktop? I switched from vixie-cron to fcron within a couple of days of first installing Gentoo. The Gentoo handbook suggested vixie-cron, but it proved to be a bucket of bolts. The version of fcron then available had problems in those days (late 2003) with daylight saving switch-overs, but these have long been fixed. Consequently, I recommend fcron to anybody dumb enough to take my word for such things. ... :-) -- Regards, Dave [RLU #314465] == dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon) == signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie-cron keeps stopping
On Saturday 17 April 2010 10:47:15 Mick wrote: On Friday 16 April 2010 22:25:47 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 16 April 2010 20:29:27 Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 15 April 2010 02:58:15 Matt Harrison wrote: I apologise if this has come twice, it didn't appear to post correctly first time, not even on the archives. Its been happening for a while but I haven't got round to find out why, but every so often (anything between a week or an hour) vixie-cron just stops. There's nothing in the logs, the service just stops. I have no idea where to start looking for a culprit so I'm hoping someone here has some good ideas :) thanks in advance Matt You probably don't want to hear this, but: vixie-cron is problematic in the extreme. I have endless hassle with it's weird behaviours. Use a different cron daemon. I am using vixie as well. It was in the install guide many years ago. What all would have to be changed to switch to fcron? I think some packages detect which cron you have installed and put things in the proper place for cron jobs to run. I could be wrong on that since it has been a while since I noticed packages doing this. emerge -C vixie-cron emerge other cron of your choice You might have to tweak crontabs. I have come to detest with a passion every piece of software written or inspired by Paul Vixie. It took 10-15 years to get bind into a shape where it takes less than 20 minutes to start here, it's low, buggy and performance is pathetic. dhcp is just way too complex for my liking, ... ... and as for vixie-cron: When software doesn't act like it's supposed to, breaks in horrible ways without giving me any clue (like, cron restart works with no known init scripts on any platform I have) and instead says cron restarted [OK], which brings down 5000 Cisco devices as as a nasty side effect, and causes a Severity 0 committee to be called, twice, then that software's remaining life span on my boxes is measured in milliseconds :-) rant over Blimey! That sounds like horribly_broken! Which cron do you recommend for a desktop? Strangely enough, I'd tell folk to use vixie-cron if it's already working for them and they know it. I don't see the point in advising someone to switch a package that is working well for them and doing it's job. Most folk let cron be installed then they never touch it again, or add at most a few entries. Everything they need or want to be done is covered with the default /etc/cron.*/*. Why change it? Besides, they know how to work vixie- cron. But if they are run into problems or weird errors (like the OP where the thing just dies), then fcron is good. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie-cron keeps stopping
On 4/15/2010 1:20 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 15 April 2010 02:58:15 Matt Harrison wrote: I apologise if this has come twice, it didn't appear to post correctly first time, not even on the archives. Its been happening for a while but I haven't got round to find out why, but every so often (anything between a week or an hour) vixie-cron just stops. There's nothing in the logs, the service just stops. I have no idea where to start looking for a culprit so I'm hoping someone here has some good ideas :) thanks in advance Matt You probably don't want to hear this, but: vixie-cron is problematic in the extreme. I have endless hassle with it's weird behaviours. Use a different cron daemon. Strange. I've never had a problem with it and Gentoo though I use Gentoo primarily as a server. kashani
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie-cron keeps stopping
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 15 April 2010 02:58:15 Matt Harrison wrote: I apologise if this has come twice, it didn't appear to post correctly first time, not even on the archives. Its been happening for a while but I haven't got round to find out why, but every so often (anything between a week or an hour) vixie-cron just stops. There's nothing in the logs, the service just stops. I have no idea where to start looking for a culprit so I'm hoping someone here has some good ideas :) thanks in advance Matt You probably don't want to hear this, but: vixie-cron is problematic in the extreme. I have endless hassle with it's weird behaviours. Use a different cron daemon. I am using vixie as well. It was in the install guide many years ago. What all would have to be changed to switch to fcron? I think some packages detect which cron you have installed and put things in the proper place for cron jobs to run. I could be wrong on that since it has been a while since I noticed packages doing this. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie-cron keeps stopping
On Friday 16 April 2010 19:22:42 kashani wrote: On 4/15/2010 1:20 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 15 April 2010 02:58:15 Matt Harrison wrote: I apologise if this has come twice, it didn't appear to post correctly first time, not even on the archives. Its been happening for a while but I haven't got round to find out why, but every so often (anything between a week or an hour) vixie-cron just stops. There's nothing in the logs, the service just stops. I have no idea where to start looking for a culprit so I'm hoping someone here has some good ideas :) thanks in advance Matt You probably don't want to hear this, but: vixie-cron is problematic in the extreme. I have endless hassle with it's weird behaviours. Use a different cron daemon. Strange. I've never had a problem with it and Gentoo though I use Gentoo primarily as a server. kashani +1 I have been running Vixie's cron for a good few years on 4 different machines (3 different arches) and have not noticed any problems. On the other hand I am only running some basic cron jobs (e.g. , updatedb, mrtg). Have you looked at /root/dead.letter in case there is a problem that is captured there (although I would expect to see something in the logs to be honest)? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie-cron keeps stopping
On Friday 16 April 2010 20:29:27 Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 15 April 2010 02:58:15 Matt Harrison wrote: I apologise if this has come twice, it didn't appear to post correctly first time, not even on the archives. Its been happening for a while but I haven't got round to find out why, but every so often (anything between a week or an hour) vixie-cron just stops. There's nothing in the logs, the service just stops. I have no idea where to start looking for a culprit so I'm hoping someone here has some good ideas :) thanks in advance Matt You probably don't want to hear this, but: vixie-cron is problematic in the extreme. I have endless hassle with it's weird behaviours. Use a different cron daemon. I am using vixie as well. It was in the install guide many years ago. What all would have to be changed to switch to fcron? I think some packages detect which cron you have installed and put things in the proper place for cron jobs to run. I could be wrong on that since it has been a while since I noticed packages doing this. emerge -C vixie-cron emerge other cron of your choice You might have to tweak crontabs. I have come to detest with a passion every piece of software written or inspired by Paul Vixie. It took 10-15 years to get bind into a shape where it takes less than 20 minutes to start here, it's low, buggy and performance is pathetic. dhcp is just way too complex for my liking, ... ... and as for vixie-cron: When software doesn't act like it's supposed to, breaks in horrible ways without giving me any clue (like, cron restart works with no known init scripts on any platform I have) and instead says cron restarted [OK], which brings down 5000 Cisco devices as as a nasty side effect, and causes a Severity 0 committee to be called, twice, then that software's remaining life span on my boxes is measured in milliseconds :-) rant over -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie-cron keeps stopping
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 01:36:38 +0100, Matt Harrison wrote: Its been happening for a while but I haven't got round to find out why, but every so often (anything between a week or an hour) vixie-cron just stops. There's nothing in the logs, the service just stops. Try running it from a terminal with the -n option, you may see some output when it exits. -- Neil Bothwick The facts, although interesting, are usually irrelevant. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie-cron keeps stopping
On Thursday 15 April 2010 02:58:15 Matt Harrison wrote: I apologise if this has come twice, it didn't appear to post correctly first time, not even on the archives. Its been happening for a while but I haven't got round to find out why, but every so often (anything between a week or an hour) vixie-cron just stops. There's nothing in the logs, the service just stops. I have no idea where to start looking for a culprit so I'm hoping someone here has some good ideas :) thanks in advance Matt You probably don't want to hear this, but: vixie-cron is problematic in the extreme. I have endless hassle with it's weird behaviours. Use a different cron daemon. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie-cron keeps stopping
On 15/04/2010 09:20, Alan McKinnon wrote: You probably don't want to hear this, but: vixie-cron is problematic in the extreme. I have endless hassle with it's weird behaviours. Use a different cron daemon. I don't mind hearing this :) I only use vixie-cron as that is what I started with (I think from the old install documents), I'm not tied to it at all. I has worked perfectly on several installs until this problem appeared. I've switched to fcron on that machine and it seems to be ok so far, only time will tell. From now on I'll use fcron by default to avoid this problem happening again. Thanks
[gentoo-user] vixie-cron keeps stopping
Its been happening for a while but I haven't got round to find out why, but every so often (anything between a week or an hour) vixie-cron just stops. There's nothing in the logs, the service just stops. I have no idea where to start looking for a culprit so I'm hoping someone here has some good ideas :) thanks in advance Matt
[gentoo-user] vixie-cron keeps stopping
I apologise if this has come twice, it didn't appear to post correctly first time, not even on the archives. Its been happening for a while but I haven't got round to find out why, but every so often (anything between a week or an hour) vixie-cron just stops. There's nothing in the logs, the service just stops. I have no idea where to start looking for a culprit so I'm hoping someone here has some good ideas :) thanks in advance Matt
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie-cron keeps stopping
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Matt Harrison iwasinnamuk...@genestate.com wrote: I apologise if this has come twice, it didn't appear to post correctly first time, not even on the archives. Its been happening for a while but I haven't got round to find out why, but every so often (anything between a week or an hour) vixie-cron just stops. There's nothing in the logs, the service just stops. I have no idea where to start looking for a culprit so I'm hoping someone here has some good ideas :) thanks in advance Matt It did arrive here the first time Matt. Just responding so you know it's getting through. - Mark
[gentoo-user] vixie-cron not sending mail
I've set the MAILTO env variable in my crontab, but vixie-cron still isn't sending e-mails. I've verfied that I'm able to send email with /usr/sbin/sendmail (both with and without -t). I re-emerged vixie-cron with the debug USE flag, but it didn't seem to produce any debug info that I can find anywhere. How do I convince vixie-cron to produce some debug output so that I can figure out why it's not sending e-mails? -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Are you mentally here at at Pizza Hut?? visi.com
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie cron
Hi, Thank you very much. But how I can use @reboot? It might be good if I just run fetchmail once after rebooting. -- Wish you well! Teng Wang -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie cron
On Tuesday 10 June 2008, Teng Wang wrote: Hi, Thank you very much. But how I can use @reboot? It might be good if I just run fetchmail once after rebooting. I don't understand your question, the man page clearly tells you how to use it: Replace the first five columns in a crontab file with '@reboot' and cron will run the command once when it starts up. So, do make sure that the command actually runs - maybe you are making one of the many classic cron errors and your script is faulty, not cron. Maybe you have an older version of cron that doesn't support @reboot and are reading a newer man page. If this all checks out OK and it still doesn't work, then cron is not behaving the way it's own documentation says it should, this is a bug and should be reported to the cron developers -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie cron
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Teng Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I am using vixie cron to maintain my scheduled jobs. Everything is just fine other than one. I find that when I use, for example, 0 * * * * /usr/bin/eix-sync to update the portage everyday, the cron works without any problem. But I was told by manpage I could still use @daily instead. So I tried but failed. The system does nothing at all. It is not a big issue, but I just want to make sure it has nothing to do with my setting. Furthermore, I still want to start some program like fetchmail after reboot. Then I put @reboot in crontab. I also tried, and failed. Does anybody have any idea about this? Best, -- Teng Wang -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list There should be a single text file in /etc/cron.daily/ with the command you want to run daily. Like this: $ cat /etc/cron.daily/esync /usr/bin/esync You also may need to make the file executable, so chmod +x /etc/cron.daily/esync. Mine syncs daily with this command. -- - Mark Shields
[gentoo-user] vixie cron
Hi there, I am using vixie cron to maintain my scheduled jobs. Everything is just fine other than one. I find that when I use, for example, 0 * * * * /usr/bin/eix-sync to update the portage everyday, the cron works without any problem. But I was told by manpage I could still use @daily instead. So I tried but failed. The system does nothing at all. It is not a big issue, but I just want to make sure it has nothing to do with my setting. Furthermore, I still want to start some program like fetchmail after reboot. Then I put @reboot in crontab. I also tried, and failed. Does anybody have any idea about this? Best, -- Teng Wang -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie cron
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:15:44 -0600 Teng Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see, thank you! Do I need add news to /etc/cron.allow? possibly. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie cron
hey all, Recently, I set up a local news server and want to fetch news by using vixie cron. For security, I want to drop root to news ( only news and root can run fetchnews). So I add one line in crontab by using crontab -e: */5 * * * * news fetchnews Actually, I just follow the examples from previous lines, which are 0 * * * * rootrm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly 1 3 * * * rootrm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.daily 15 4 * * 6 rootrm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.weekly 30 5 1 * * rootrm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.monthly */10 * * * * roottest -x /usr/sbin/run-crons /usr/sbin/run-crons But, vixie seem cannot tell the user name from command, every time it will send me an system email says that root/news command not find. Can anybody tell me why it is so? Does vixie support to specify the user who run the command. Thank you. Whith crontab -e as root user, you edit the crontab for the root user, where all entries are run as root and you can't set another name. Use crontab -e -u news instead. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie cron
I see, thank you! Do I need add news to /etc/cron.allow? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] vixie cron
hey all, Recently, I set up a local news server and want to fetch news by using vixie cron. For security, I want to drop root to news ( only news and root can run fetchnews). So I add one line in crontab by using crontab -e: */5 * * * * news fetchnews Actually, I just follow the examples from previous lines, which are 0 * * * * rootrm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly 1 3 * * * rootrm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.daily 15 4 * * 6 rootrm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.weekly 30 5 1 * * rootrm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.monthly */10 * * * * roottest -x /usr/sbin/run-crons /usr/sbin/run-crons But, vixie seem cannot tell the user name from command, every time it will send me an system email says that root/news command not find. Can anybody tell me why it is so? Does vixie support to specify the user who run the command. Thank you. If not, is this a small bug in vixie ( when I read /usr/share/doc/vixie*/crontab.bz2, I saw exactly the same configuration)? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
AW: [gentoo-user] Vixie Cron
sean wrote: How is vixie-cron setup to accept remote connections? Thanks Sean Forget this question, made a mistake. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list :) I've got another question. I recognized that vixie-cron stopped working after the last reboot of my server. I had to restart vixie-cron to get it back to work. Was this just a little error, or does anybody else recognized such a problem? kind regards Alex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: AW: [gentoo-user] Vixie Cron
On Saturday 03 November 2007, Zimmerling, Alexander wrote: sean wrote: How is vixie-cron setup to accept remote connections? Thanks Sean Forget this question, made a mistake. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list :) I've got another question. I recognized that vixie-cron stopped working after the last reboot of my server. I had to restart vixie-cron to get it back to work. Was this just a little error, or does anybody else recognized such a problem? kind regards Alex I'm just guessing here, but have you added vixie-cron to your runlevel? (e.g. rc-update add vixie-cron default) -- Rick van Hattem Rick.van.Hattem(at)Fawo.nl signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
AW: AW: [gentoo-user] Vixie Cron
On Saturday 03 November 2007, Zimmerling, Alexander wrote: sean wrote: How is vixie-cron setup to accept remote connections? Thanks Sean Forget this question, made a mistake. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list :) I've got another question. I recognized that vixie-cron stopped working after the last reboot of my server. I had to restart vixie-cron to get it back to work. Was this just a little error, or does anybody else recognized such a problem? kind regards Alex I'm just guessing here, but have you added vixie-cron to your runlevel? (e.g. rc-update add vixie-cron default) -- Rick van HattemRick.van.Hattem(at)Fawo.nl I'm very sure ;) rc-status reports 'running' but cronjobs are not been lauched greetings Alex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Vixie Cron
How is vixie-cron setup to accept remote connections? Thanks Sean -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Vixie Cron
On Friday 02 November 2007, sean wrote: How is vixie-cron setup to accept remote connections? Eh? Why would a cron daemon need to accept connections, what does that even mean in the context of cron? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Vixie Cron
sean wrote: How is vixie-cron setup to accept remote connections? Thanks Sean Forget this question, made a mistake. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Vixie-Cron /bin/sh: root: command not found
Hi Richard, thank you for your reply, I will look at these more closely as for the moment I have not set a user specific cron, I am just using the root to run these. All I did was follow the tutorial, perhaps I have missed some points ;( Cheers Norman Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/5/07, norman wrote: Hello, I am running vixie-cron, but am unable to figure out what this is all about, I have followed the http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cron-guide.xml But on the report email, I only get on the email, the following: /bin/sh: root: command not found Here is my /etc/crontab That's the system crontab, which should have a user field in it. How about your user-specific crontab from /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ ? That should *not* have a user field in it AFAIK. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Vixie-Cron /bin/sh: root: command not found
On 1/5/07, norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am running vixie-cron, but am unable to figure out what this is all about, I have followed the http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cron-guide.xml But on the report email, I only get on the email, the following: /bin/sh: root: command not found Here is my /etc/crontab That's the system crontab, which should have a user field in it. How about your user-specific crontab from /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ ? That should *not* have a user field in it AFAIK. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie-cron and ssmtp
On 9/15/06, David Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forget it, I gave up on ssmtp as it is the problem. I've now gone to postfix and it is so much easier. Setting up postfix involed 3 simple steps. Setting relayhost in /etc/postfix/main.cf and creating .forward files in root and normal user directories. ssmtp should be tree-cleaned. It's not even maintained upstream and it sucks wind. David On 9/14/06, David Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/14/06, David Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, it turns out that setting MAILTO=root in my own user's crontab makes it send mail. MAILTO=root is already in /etc/cron/crontab by the way so this is all very strange. I tried setting MAILTO=david and that didn't work. I decided ssmtp might be the problem, so I isolated it and tried this: 1. echo test |mail -s testing ssmtp to external [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. echo test |mail -s testing ssmtp mail to root root 3. echo test |mail -s testing ssmtp mail to david david 4. echo test |mail -s testing ssmtp mail to sarah sarah 1. The first one worked. So ssmtp can send to external addresses fine. 2. The second one worked. So ssmtp can look at the root= command (which tells it where to send mail to user ids 1000) properly and send to whatever root= is set to. 3. The third one didn't work. So for some reason I can't send mail to a normal user. But maybe something is weird with that user. I used to run a mail server on this machine with that user (postfix/procmail/blah/blah/blah) so maybe some leftover thing was screwing things up. 4. Sending mail to this user didn't work either. The users in 3. and 4. are both in /etc/ssmtp/revaliases. User 3 is in the 'mail' group (does that even matter) and I tried user 4. with and without that user in the revaliases file. It looks like maybe ssmtp isn't seeing my revaliases file? Or maybe I'm not using is properly? david:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:smtp.vc.shawcable.net sarah:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :smtp.vc.shawcable.net -- David Grant http://www.davidgrant.ca -- David Grant http://www.davidgrant.ca I totally agree. I have never even been able to get it to compile cleanly. It was the first failed emerge that I had to troubleshoot when I started using Gentoo. Later, it prompted me to drop to good 'ol CLI install when I was doing the 2006.0 install. Postfix has always been good to me. I am glad to see that someone else is as fed up with it as I am, why is it still around?? Troy -- Beware of spyware. If you can, use the Firefox browser. - USA Today Download now at http://getfirefox.com Registered Linux User #354814 ( http://counter.li.org/) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] vixie-cron and ssmtp
Cron is sending out an email for jobs run as user root, but not for cron jobs run as my normal user? Yet the funny thing is, when cron runs jobs as normal user, it still actually sends the mail to root (see /etc/crontab). And on the command line, I see the same thing either way: Sep 14 14:43:01 sonata cron[16727]: (david) CMD (/home/david/scripts/encryptPass.pl)Sep 14 14:43:01 sonata cron[16725]: (root) CMD (/home/david/scripts/encryptPass.pl)Sep 14 14:43:02 sonata sSMTP[16728]: Sent mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (221 2.3.0 Bye received. Goodbye.)Sep 14 14:43:02 sonata sSMTP[16729]: Sent mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (221 2.3.0 Bye received. Goodbye.)Can anyone else repeat this behaviour?-- David Granthttp://www.davidgrant.ca
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie-cron and ssmtp
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:43:30 -0700, David Grant wrote: Cron is sending out an email for jobs run as user root, but not for cron jobs run as my normal user? Yet the funny thing is, when cron runs jobs as normal user, it still actually sends the mail to root (see /etc/crontab). You seem to be contradicting yourself here; first you say user cron jobs don't send mail, then you say they send mail to root. Which is it? Either way, the solution may be to set MAILTO in your user's crontab. -- Neil Bothwick There was a young man from the border Who had an attention disorder. When he reached the last line He would run out of time And signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie-cron and ssmtp
On 9/14/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:43:30 -0700, David Grant wrote: Cron is sending out an email for jobs run as user root, but not for cron jobs run as my normal user? Yet the funny thing is, when cron runs jobs as normal user, it still actually sends the mail to root (see /etc/crontab).You seem to be contradicting yourself here; first you say user cron jobsdon't send mail, then you say they send mail to root. Which is it? Well I'm not contradicting myself intentionally... I should have been more clear. I'll do a better job this time:Cron is trying to send out an email for jobs run as user root to and succeeding. Cron is also trying to send out an email for jobs run as a normal user but it seems to fail at this. Both cron jobs (whether run as user root or normal user) are both trying to send the email to the root user. Either way, the solution may be to set MAILTO in your user's crontab. I could try this, although I as I said it seems like both jobs run as root and normal user are both being sent to user root (according to the MAILTO)-- David Grant http://www.davidgrant.ca
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie-cron and ssmtp
On 9/14/06, David Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/14/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:43:30 -0700, David Grant wrote: Cron is sending out an email for jobs run as user root, but not for cron jobs run as my normal user? Yet the funny thing is, when cron runs jobs as normal user, it still actually sends the mail to root (see /etc/crontab).You seem to be contradicting yourself here; first you say user cron jobsdon't send mail, then you say they send mail to root. Which is it? Well I'm not contradicting myself intentionally... I should have been more clear. I'll do a better job this time:Cron is trying to send out an email for jobs run as user root to and succeeding. Cron is also trying to send out an email for jobs run as a normal user but it seems to fail at this. Both cron jobs (whether run as user root or normal user) are both trying to send the email to the root user. Either way, the solution may be to set MAILTO in your user's crontab. I could try this, although I as I said it seems like both jobs run as root and normal user are both being sent to user root (according to the MAILTO) Hmm, it turns out that setting MAILTO=root in my own user's crontab makes it send mail. MAILTO=root is already in /etc/cron/crontab by the way so this is all very strange.-- David Grant http://www.davidgrant.ca
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie-cron and ssmtp
On 9/14/06, David Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, it turns out that setting MAILTO=root in my own user's crontab makes it send mail. MAILTO=root is already in /etc/cron/crontab by the way so this is all very strange. I tried setting MAILTO=david and that didn't work. I decided ssmtp might be the problem, so I isolated it and tried this:1. echo test |mail -s testing ssmtp to external [EMAIL PROTECTED]2. echo test |mail -s testing ssmtp mail to root root3. echo test |mail -s testing ssmtp mail to david david4. echo test |mail -s testing ssmtp mail to sarah sarah 1. The first one worked. So ssmtp can send to external addresses fine. 2. The second one worked. So ssmtp can look at the root= command (which tells it where to send mail to user ids 1000) properly and send to whatever root= is set to.3. The third one didn't work. So for some reason I can't send mail to a normal user. But maybe something is weird with that user. I used to run a mail server on this machine with that user (postfix/procmail/blah/blah/blah) so maybe some leftover thing was screwing things up. 4. Sending mail to this user didn't work either. The users in 3. and 4. are both in /etc/ssmtp/revaliases. User 3 is in the 'mail' group (does that even matter) and I tried user 4. with and without that user in the revaliases file. It looks like maybe ssmtp isn't seeing my revaliases file? Or maybe I'm not using is properly?david:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:smtp.vc.shawcable.netsarah:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :smtp.vc.shawcable.net-- David Granthttp://www.davidgrant.ca
[gentoo-user] vixie-cron inconsistencies
The cron manpage says that /etc/crontab should have mode 0600. However, it is installed with 0644. A /etc/cron.deny is installed without any users in it which means (according to crontab(1)) that all users are allowed to work with crontab. However, /usr/bin/crontab has mode 4710 which means that you must be member of the group cron to be able to use crontabs. Should I report a bug? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vixie-cron inconsistencies
Hans de Hartog wrote: The cron manpage says that /etc/crontab should have mode 0600. However, it is installed with 0644. A /etc/cron.deny is installed without any users in it which means (according to crontab(1)) that all users are allowed to work with crontab. However, /usr/bin/crontab has mode 4710 which means that you must be member of the group cron to be able to use crontabs. Should I report a bug? No, I shouldn't. Already done: 60086 and 122876 Sorry, I should have searched bugtrack first. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
