Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with larry the cow dot org?

2017-10-16 Thread Peter Humphrey 
On Monday, 16 October 2017 13:25:56 BST Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 16/10/2017 14:29, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> > On 10/16/2017 08:14 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >> And it was never Larry the Cow either, gentoo had
> >> Larry the Gender-Confused Cow :-)
> > 
> > Short for Loretta?
> 
> Nah, Larry was always a he

Has to be Laurence, surely?

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Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with larry the cow dot org?

2017-10-16 Thread Alan McKinnon 
On 16/10/2017 14:29, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:14:50 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> 
>> I don't think the trustees can argue that claim anymore. Larry hasn't
>> been around for years on gentoo web sites (znort is still to be found
>> hovering at the bottom of wiki pages though!). Trademarks go away in law
>> if you don't protect them.
> 
> Err, from https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Main_Page
> 
> Welcome to the Gentoo wiki!
> Larry the cow welcomes you to the Gentoo wiki.

Oh dear, busted. Shows you how often I hit the wiki landing page; i.e.
almost never

> 
>> And it was never Larry the Cow either, gentoo had
>> Larry the Gender-Confused Cow :-)
> 
> The only confusion is the typical English language ambiguity where cow
> is also allowed to refer to domesticated cattle of either gender, despite
> being used as a label for females of so many species.
> 
> Or Larry could be short for Lauren/Laura ;-)
> 
> 


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Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with larry the cow dot org?

2017-10-16 Thread Alan McKinnon 
On 16/10/2017 14:29, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 10/16/2017 08:14 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>
>> And it was never Larry the Cow either, gentoo had
>> Larry the Gender-Confused Cow :-)
>>
> 
> Short for Loretta?
> 

Nah, Larry was always a he

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Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with larry the cow dot org?

2017-10-16 Thread Neil Bothwick 
On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:14:50 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> I don't think the trustees can argue that claim anymore. Larry hasn't
> been around for years on gentoo web sites (znort is still to be found
> hovering at the bottom of wiki pages though!). Trademarks go away in law
> if you don't protect them.

Err, from https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Main_Page

Welcome to the Gentoo wiki!
Larry the cow welcomes you to the Gentoo wiki.

> And it was never Larry the Cow either, gentoo had
> Larry the Gender-Confused Cow :-)

The only confusion is the typical English language ambiguity where cow
is also allowed to refer to domesticated cattle of either gender, despite
being used as a label for females of so many species.

Or Larry could be short for Lauren/Laura ;-)


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I really ought to sell it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with larry the cow dot org?

2017-10-16 Thread Michael Orlitzky 
On 10/16/2017 08:14 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> 
> And it was never Larry the Cow either, gentoo had
> Larry the Gender-Confused Cow :-)
> 

Short for Loretta?

Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with larry the cow dot org?

2017-10-16 Thread Alan McKinnon 
On 16/10/2017 07:29, R0b0t1 wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:47 PM, Kent Fredric  wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 20:26:04 + (UTC)
>> Grant Edwards  wrote:
>>
>>> Appropos of nothing, I accidentaly stumbled across larrythecow.org
>>> today.  It's oddly baffling.  The domain is registered to "Domain
>>> Protection Services", and (AFAICT) has been since 2005.
>>
>> Wayback suggests that until Oct 2015 it was associated with Funtoo:
>>
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20151005165316/http://larrythecow.org:80/
>>
>> Sometime Nov 2015 it got nuked and replaced with a page with hints of ASP
>>
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20151107212839/http://larrythecow.org:80/
>>
>> Jan 2016 onwards is all laptop crap.
>>
>> That's all I have for now, but I'd assume the site has been hacked.
>>
>> Maybe somebody at funtoo knows what's up.
> 
> It might be someone testing the claim on Larry the Cow. The content is
> enough, I would think, to provoke legal action, but they're not
> actually making much (if any) money off of the site.
> 
> I might open up something on the tracker for the trustees about this.
> I've found it a few times and been very confused, but I didn't explore
> it any further than that.

I don't think the trustees can argue that claim anymore. Larry hasn't
been around for years on gentoo web sites (znort is still to be found
hovering at the bottom of wiki pages though!). Trademarks go away in law
if you don't protect them.

And it was never Larry the Cow either, gentoo had
Larry the Gender-Confused Cow :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with larry the cow dot org?

2017-10-15 Thread R0b0t1 
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:47 PM, Kent Fredric  wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 20:26:04 + (UTC)
> Grant Edwards  wrote:
>
>> Appropos of nothing, I accidentaly stumbled across larrythecow.org
>> today.  It's oddly baffling.  The domain is registered to "Domain
>> Protection Services", and (AFAICT) has been since 2005.
>
> Wayback suggests that until Oct 2015 it was associated with Funtoo:
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20151005165316/http://larrythecow.org:80/
>
> Sometime Nov 2015 it got nuked and replaced with a page with hints of ASP
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20151107212839/http://larrythecow.org:80/
>
> Jan 2016 onwards is all laptop crap.
>
> That's all I have for now, but I'd assume the site has been hacked.
>
> Maybe somebody at funtoo knows what's up.

It might be someone testing the claim on Larry the Cow. The content is
enough, I would think, to provoke legal action, but they're not
actually making much (if any) money off of the site.

I might open up something on the tracker for the trustees about this.
I've found it a few times and been very confused, but I didn't explore
it any further than that.

R0b0t1.

Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with larry the cow dot org?

2017-10-14 Thread Kent Fredric 
On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 20:26:04 + (UTC)
Grant Edwards  wrote:

> Appropos of nothing, I accidentaly stumbled across larrythecow.org
> today.  It's oddly baffling.  The domain is registered to "Domain
> Protection Services", and (AFAICT) has been since 2005.

Wayback suggests that until Oct 2015 it was associated with Funtoo:

https://web.archive.org/web/20151005165316/http://larrythecow.org:80/

Sometime Nov 2015 it got nuked and replaced with a page with hints of ASP

https://web.archive.org/web/20151107212839/http://larrythecow.org:80/

Jan 2016 onwards is all laptop crap.

That's all I have for now, but I'd assume the site has been hacked.

Maybe somebody at funtoo knows what's up. 


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[gentoo-user] What's up with larry the cow dot org?

2017-10-13 Thread Grant Edwards 
Appropos of nothing, I accidentaly stumbled across larrythecow.org
today.  It's oddly baffling.  The domain is registered to "Domain
Protection Services", and (AFAICT) has been since 2005.

It's a fairly typical-looking site with a header containg Gentoo
graphics and a tabbed ui like you can slap together with any of dozens
of "site builder" systems. Based on the javascript, it appears to
be generated using wordpress.

There are tabs for "A New Laptop" "Contact" "DMCA" "Hardware" "Legal"
"Privacy".

Each of the tabs contains 8 to 10 pragraphs of what appear to be
machine-generated (or machine-translated) English text containing
vague, generic advice about buying laptops.  The contents of all the
tabs are similar but different and have titles like

  "Learn What You Need To Know About Laptops Here"

  "Skilled Suggestions For Obtaining The Best Laptop computer For Your Income"

  "Thinking Of Buying A New Notebook? Go through These Suggestions Initial!"

  "Reliable Suggestions About Laptops That Can Support Any individual"

  "What Needs To Enter Purchasing Your Laptop"

  "The Best Laptop computer Suggestions For Commencing Consumers"

For 14 months ending in January 2016, the content was updated monthly.

AFAICT, there are no ads, no trackers, no malware.

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