Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] dependancy xorg-server

2015-02-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 7 Feb 2015 17:19:29 -0700, Joseph wrote:

 1) Don't leave it so long between upgrades.  
 
 I usually try not to exceed 2-months between upgrades.
 I think this is a reasonable time.

If you are getting too many upgrades at once, maybe it isn't. If you
are leaving it that long, I hope you are running glsa-check frequently.
  
 2) Read man make.conf and /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example
 for
details of the ELOG_ settings to have warnings and info mailed to
  you.  
 
 In my make.conf I have:
 PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES=info warn error log
 
 Maybe I should skip: info and log; to have less trafic. 

That sets what you log, there are also settings for how to log it. Read
those documents.


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SITCOM: Single Income, Two Children, Oppressive Mortgage


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Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] dependancy xorg-server

2015-02-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/02/2015 08:46, Joseph wrote:
 On 02/07/15 07:01, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 06/02/2015 23:52, Joseph wrote:
 I'm getting an error:

  (x11-base/xorg-server-1.15.2-r1:0/1.15.2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
 merge) pulled in by
(no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot)

  (x11-base/xorg-server-1.15.0:0/1.15.0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
x11-base/xorg-server:0/1.15.0= required by
 (x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.21.15:0/0::gentoo, installed)

 ^^
(and 2 more with the same problem)

 Why is it complaining about x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel; it is a
 valid package.


 Please post the full output from emerge


 -- 
 Alan McKinnon
 alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 
 SOLVED,
 
 I got that blocker after upgrade and when I tray to run: emerge -uDNavq
 world
 the problem was that the package dev-db/mariadb needed flag: extraengine
 so adding to package.use
 dev-db/mariadb extraengine
 
 solved the problem.
 

Portage is excessively verbose in it's output. With -v it dumps all
sorts of info to the console and it's incredibly hard to read.

It especially likes to print the full reasoning why it doesn't upgrade
some package to latest due to a dependency requirement, and it's this
that usually hides actual real problems in amongst all the noise.

The level of verbosity from portage over the past year really should
only be shown with -vvv



-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] dependancy xorg-server

2015-02-07 Thread Joseph

On 02/07/15 11:45, Alan McKinnon wrote:

On 07/02/2015 08:46, Joseph wrote:

On 02/07/15 07:01, Alan McKinnon wrote:

On 06/02/2015 23:52, Joseph wrote:

I'm getting an error:

 (x11-base/xorg-server-1.15.2-r1:0/1.15.2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
merge) pulled in by
   (no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot)

 (x11-base/xorg-server-1.15.0:0/1.15.0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
   x11-base/xorg-server:0/1.15.0= required by
(x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.21.15:0/0::gentoo, installed)

^^
   (and 2 more with the same problem)

Why is it complaining about x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel; it is a
valid package.



Please post the full output from emerge


--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com


SOLVED,

I got that blocker after upgrade and when I tray to run: emerge -uDNavq
world
the problem was that the package dev-db/mariadb needed flag: extraengine
so adding to package.use
dev-db/mariadb extraengine

solved the problem.



Portage is excessively verbose in it's output. With -v it dumps all
sorts of info to the console and it's incredibly hard to read.

It especially likes to print the full reasoning why it doesn't upgrade
some package to latest due to a dependency requirement, and it's this
that usually hides actual real problems in amongst all the noise.

The level of verbosity from portage over the past year really should
only be shown with -vvv



--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com


Thank for the hint, never thought about it. I'll try next time emerge 
-uDNavvvq world
Yes, it was very hard to read and duped information into the screen that wasn't 
relevant.
The package dev-db/mariadb was asking for flag: extraengine
But xorg-server showed up in front of it and I couldn't understand why.

--
Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] dependancy xorg-server

2015-02-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 7 Feb 2015 09:10:46 -0700, Joseph wrote:

 Portage is excessively verbose in it's output. With -v it dumps all
 sorts of info to the console and it's incredibly hard to read.
 
 It especially likes to print the full reasoning why it doesn't upgrade
 some package to latest due to a dependency requirement, and it's this
 that usually hides actual real problems in amongst all the noise.
 
 The level of verbosity from portage over the past year really should
 only be shown with -vvv

 Thank for the hint, never thought about it. I'll try next time emerge
 -uDNavvvq world

Alan was saying that portage is already very verbose, you are better off
running with no -v options. That way you only see true errors and serious
warnings and not all the irrelevant stuff that just gets in the way.

 Yes, it was very hard to read and duped information
 into the screen that wasn't relevant.

Exactly, cut down on the irrelevant information by not using -v.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Sisko:I won't be condescending to you this episode, Dr. Bashir.


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Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] dependancy xorg-server

2015-02-07 Thread Joseph

On 02/07/15 19:53, Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Sat, 7 Feb 2015 09:10:46 -0700, Joseph wrote:


Portage is excessively verbose in it's output. With -v it dumps all
sorts of info to the console and it's incredibly hard to read.

It especially likes to print the full reasoning why it doesn't upgrade
some package to latest due to a dependency requirement, and it's this
that usually hides actual real problems in amongst all the noise.

The level of verbosity from portage over the past year really should
only be shown with -vvv



Thank for the hint, never thought about it. I'll try next time emerge
-uDNavvvq world


Alan was saying that portage is already very verbose, you are better off
running with no -v options. That way you only see true errors and serious
warnings and not all the irrelevant stuff that just gets in the way.


Yes, it was very hard to read and duped information
into the screen that wasn't relevant.


Exactly, cut down on the irrelevant information by not using -v.

--
Neil Bothwick

Sisko:I won't be condescending to you this episode, Dr. Bashir.


Got it.
I'll try it next time. When I upgrade and have to scroll via 200+ messages of emerge packages it is easy to not to notice about some critical information; in my 
case grub that was calling to run grub-install or the system will not boot.

I wish the packages without any changes or warning wouldn't even show up after 
upgrade.

--
Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] dependancy xorg-server

2015-02-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 7 Feb 2015 14:06:30 -0700, Joseph wrote:

 I'll try it next time. When I upgrade and have to scroll via 200+
 messages of emerge packages it is easy to not to notice about some
 critical information; in my case grub that was calling to run
 grub-install or the system will not boot. I wish the packages without
 any changes or warning wouldn't even show up after upgrade.

1) Don't leave it so long between upgrades.

2) Read man make.conf and /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example for 
   details of the ELOG_ settings to have warnings and info mailed to you.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] dependancy xorg-server

2015-02-07 Thread Joseph

On 02/07/15 21:38, Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Sat, 7 Feb 2015 14:06:30 -0700, Joseph wrote:


I'll try it next time. When I upgrade and have to scroll via 200+
messages of emerge packages it is easy to not to notice about some
critical information; in my case grub that was calling to run
grub-install or the system will not boot. I wish the packages without
any changes or warning wouldn't even show up after upgrade.


1) Don't leave it so long between upgrades.


I usually try not to exceed 2-months between upgrades.
I think this is a reasonable time.

I upgrade my backup machines first and if nothing happen (no surprises) I proceed with main server upgrade.  Wait for one week and if everything is working correctly 
I upgrade my boxes in a remote location over ssh. All boxes are rsync to single local box. Oh, and I check gentoo news group for discussion as well :-) prior to 
upgrades.



2) Read man make.conf and /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example for
  details of the ELOG_ settings to have warnings and info mailed to you.


In my make.conf I have:
PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES=info warn error log

Maybe I should skip: info and log; to have less trafic. 


--
Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] dependancy xorg-server

2015-02-06 Thread Joseph

On 02/07/15 07:01, Alan McKinnon wrote:

On 06/02/2015 23:52, Joseph wrote:

I'm getting an error:

 (x11-base/xorg-server-1.15.2-r1:0/1.15.2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
merge) pulled in by
   (no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot)

 (x11-base/xorg-server-1.15.0:0/1.15.0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
   x11-base/xorg-server:0/1.15.0= required by
(x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.21.15:0/0::gentoo, installed)

^^
   (and 2 more with the same problem)

Why is it complaining about x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel; it is a
valid package.



Please post the full output from emerge


--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com


SOLVED,

I got that blocker after upgrade and when I tray to run: emerge -uDNavq world
the problem was that the package dev-db/mariadb needed flag: extraengine
so adding to package.use
dev-db/mariadb extraengine

solved the problem.

--
Joseph