Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-22 Thread Marc Stürmer
Am 17.09.2014 20:36, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: Now you use this to advertise for systemd? Systemd fanbois are becoming more and more desperate. Gentoo is still all about choice, right? And we still have that choice. If you dislike Systemd, then just don't use it. Period. Contrary to

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-22 Thread hasufell
On 09/21/2014 07:23 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 7:45 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés: On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 8:46 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: • There's still value in understanding the traditional UNIX do one thing and do it

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-21 Thread hasufell
Canek Peláez Valdés: On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 8:46 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: • There's still value in understanding the traditional UNIX do one thing and do it well model where many workflows can be done as a pipeline of simple tools each adding their own value, but let's face

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-21 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 7:45 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés: On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 8:46 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: • There's still value in understanding the traditional UNIX do one thing and do it well model where many workflows can be done as a

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-20 Thread hasufell
• There's still value in understanding the traditional UNIX do one thing and do it well model where many workflows can be done as a pipeline of simple tools each adding their own value, but let's face it, it's not how complex systems really work, and it's not how major applications have been

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 8:46 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: • There's still value in understanding the traditional UNIX do one thing and do it well model where many workflows can be done as a pipeline of simple tools each adding their own value, but let's face it, it's not how complex

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 00:34:01 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: AFAIR dcop was replaced, because of the freedesktop-gnome guys. Not because anything was wrong with it. And look where it got us. No improvement at all. It wasn't really replaced as dbus was derived from DCOP, so it was more of

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-18 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: It's an interesting read; I highly recommend it. Indeed. Thanks for the link!

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 17.09.2014 um 23:03 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 17.09.2014 um 21:52 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Wed, Sep

[gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
This is highly off-topic, and systemd-related, so if you don't want your breakfast with a healthy amount of flames, skip it. iTWire posted an interview with Linus Torvalds[1], where the Big Penguin himself gave a succinct and pretty fair opinion on systemd. The gist of it can be resumed in two

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-17 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 17.09.2014 um 18:06 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: This is highly off-topic, and systemd-related, so if you don't want your breakfast with a healthy amount of flames, skip it. iTWire posted an interview with Linus Torvalds[1], where the Big Penguin himself gave a succinct and pretty fair

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 17.09.2014 um 18:06 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: This is highly off-topic, and systemd-related, so if you don't want your breakfast with a healthy amount of flames, skip it. iTWire posted an interview with Linus Torvalds[1], where the Big Penguin himself gave a succinct and pretty fair

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-17 Thread Joseph
On 09/17/14 20:36, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: [snip] It's an interesting read; I highly recommend it. [1] http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/65402-torvalds-says-he-has-no-strong-opinions-on-systemd Now you use this to advertise for systemd? Systemd fanbois are becoming

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: [snip] Now you use this to advertise for systemd? Systemd fanbois are becoming more and more desperate. So, systemd is used (or it has been announced that is going to be used) by default in all the major

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 17.09.2014 um 21:02 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: [snip] Now you use this to advertise for systemd? Systemd fanbois are becoming more and more desperate. So, systemd is used (or it has been announced

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 17.09.2014 um 21:02 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: [snip] Now you use this to advertise for systemd? Systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 17.09.2014 um 21:52 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 17.09.2014 um 21:02 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: [snip] Now

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-17 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Sep 18, 2014 2:37 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 17.09.2014 um 18:06 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: This is highly off-topic, and systemd-related, so if you don't want your breakfast with a healthy amount of flames, skip it. iTWire posted an interview with

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 17.09.2014 um 21:52 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 17.09.2014 um 21:02 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Wed, Sep

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-17 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 17 Sep 2014 22:03:14 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Yeah. So it happened with XFree86, aRts, esd, gnome-vfs, DCOP, sendmail, Aheam! Excuse me, but there's nothing wrong with sendmail! :-p -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 17.09.2014 um 23:03 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 17.09.2014 um 21:52 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 17.09.2014 um 22:58 schrieb Mark David Dumlao: On Sep 18, 2014 2:37 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com mailto:volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 17.09.2014 um 18:06 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: This is highly off-topic, and systemd-related, so if you don't want

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-17 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 17/09/14 23:43, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 17.09.2014 um 21:52 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 17.09.2014 um 21:02 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann