Re: [gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages

2009-08-18 Thread Alex Schuster
On 2007-06-15, Dale wrote: Peter Ruskin wrote: With big hard discs cheap and with ADSL connection, the advantages of the meta packages are diminished. If I understand your meaning correctly, not everyone can get broadband. I'm on dial-up and it is all that is available here where I live.

Re: [gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages

2007-06-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 06:08:52 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Well, but as kdenetwork-meta is a dependency of kde-meta, this solution means, that about 300 packages should be manually listed, just because one package is not wanted. No, because as I covered in my other reply, you

Re: [gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages (was: Make portage assume, that a package is installed)

2007-06-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:10:00 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: The kde-meta package is meant to replace the kde package. The is no advantage (and without a workable confcache, at least one disadvantage) to running split ebuilds. What about the need to recompile only one part of KDE when

Re: [gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages

2007-06-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 18 June 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote: I'm not sure USE flags for the meta packages are a good idea, they could add a lot of confusion. The meta packages are supposed to install everything, if you don't want that, don't use them. I think what Alexander is on about is USE flags only for

Re: [gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages

2007-06-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Alan McKinnon, 'emerge *-meta' is fine if one wants everything, or 'emerge kopete kmail konqueror' if you just want a few bits like me, but there's this large no-man's land in the middle where it is just unweildy. No fault of Gentoo, it's all KDEs fault for having 300+ distinct

Re: [gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages

2007-06-18 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 18 June 2007 14:36:05 Neil Bothwick wrote: I have most of KDE installed here, yet only 67 kde-base packages in world. I run fairly light, I have about half that many: $ grep -c ^kde /var/db/pkg/world 31 I do have a number of KDE applications installed from other parts of the tree

Re: [gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages

2007-06-18 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 18 June 2007 16:36:38 Peter Ruskin wrote: On Monday 18 June 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: /var/db/pkg/world I think your system may need updating - the world file has lived in /var/lib/portage for some time now. Paludis prefers it @ /var/db/pkg/world. I have both on my

[gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages (was: Make portage assume, that a package is installed)

2007-06-15 Thread Alexander Skwar
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I suggest that a cleaner method would be to not install kde-meta or kdenetwork-meta at all but instead just install the KDE applications that you require. Actually, I disagree. This would (obviously *g*) mean, that kde-meta cannot be

Re: [gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages

2007-06-15 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 15. Juni 2007 schrieb ext Alexander Skwar: This would (obviously *g*) mean, that kde-meta cannot be installed (just as you say). This means, that a whole shit load of packages would need to be manually installed. And all that, just because you don't want one or two packages?

Re: [gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages (was: Make portage assume, that a package is installed)

2007-06-15 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages (was: Make portage assume, that a package is installed)': Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I suggest that a cleaner method would be to not install

Re: [gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages (was: Make portage assume, that a package is installed)

2007-06-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote: I mean, what's the advantage of the kde*-meta packages over the kde package, when the kde*-meta require just as much junk, as the kde package does? Hm, really, what's the use of the kde*-meta package anyway? The -meta packages are a good idea.

Re: [gentoo-user] Finer grained kde*-meta packages

2007-06-15 Thread Dale
Peter Ruskin wrote: With big hard discs cheap and with ADSL connection, the advantages of the meta packages are diminished. If I understand your meaning correctly, not everyone can get broadband. I'm on dial-up and it is all that is available here where I live. DSL may be here soon but