Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-14 Thread Holly Bostick
Daevid Vincent schreef: Y'know, it's a bit early in my morning for so much whine, so that's probably why I'm a bit testy He should have been here when I installed Gentoo on a 200Mhz machine. He should have watched me compiling Apache, PHP, MySQL and a lot of other packages on my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:07:45 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: CPUs are fast, but the programs are still monolithic and take days to compile. Why do you think the larger packages are moving to a modular structure? This thread is about KDE, and while the monolithic packages are sytill available, the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-14 Thread Christoph Eckert
And all of these releases have to be carefully coordinated by the developers, since you can't have a binary download of the new X.org until the new KDE and GNOME builds are ready, and you have to update all of the dependency versions for every release, because now release -r2 of KDE-bin

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-13 Thread Daevid Vincent
He should have been here when I installed Gentoo on a 200Mhz machine. He should have watched me compiling Apache, PHP, MySQL and a lot of other packages on my Pentium 100 with 48MB of RAM, what other distro could turn that machine on a useful server other than Gentoo. Keep the Yeah yeah

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-13 Thread Steven Susbauer
I forget where, but I did see some site at some time that had most of portage compiled in x86 binaries...On 12/13/05, Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He should have been here when I installed Gentoo on a 200Mhz machine. He should have watched me compiling Apache, PHP, MySQL and a lot of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-13 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/13/05, Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I fully agree (and have brought this up before months and years ago) -- I believe we should have binaries available for the big packages like KDE, OO, Gnome, etc. Ya'll that like to waste your time compiling can keep on doing that, while the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-10 Thread Chris White
On Saturday 10 December 2005 10:47, Harry Putnam wrote: First off, this is an install from scratch. While your comment sounds smart, this really only puts off doing it later. ^^ huh? And the mindnumbing confusion of what parts of kde do what. I'm not compiling kde-meta either, but I've

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 20:24:01 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: It's no big deal upgrading KDE anyway. Set PORTAGE_NICENESS to a suitable value and you can keep using the computer while the new KDE is compiled in the background. KDE is slotted, so installing 3.5 has no effect on the 3.4.x

[gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Chris White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Saturday 10 December 2005 10:47, Harry Putnam wrote: First off, this is an install from scratch. While your comment sounds smart, this really only puts off doing it later. ^^ huh? And the mindnumbing confusion of what parts of kde do what. I'm

[gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then download a GRP CD, do a stage 3 install then install, X, KDE etc. from the GRP CD. That's how I did it and had a full working system in just over and hour. I was able to set my USE flags, sysnc portage and re-emerge everything that needed it later

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 07:49:30 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: When did I say meta... I was differentiating what you did say `kdebase' with the full blown kde-meta and noting I was somewhere in the middle with an emerge -v kde. kde-base/kde is a meta package, it pulls in all the monolithic KDE

[gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: kde-base/kde is a meta package, it pulls in all the monolithic KDE builds. If you are concerned about installation compile times, you should not be trying to build the whole of KDE. Do you really need all of kdegames, kdeedu and kdetoys to get your

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-10 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Did you check out the Gentoo docs on kde split ebuilds? It has a lot of good info. I started to emerge with the kde and then decided to go with the meta so per the instructions I had to remove some stuff - it shows up as blocked. On Saturday 10 December 2005 11:31, Harry Putnam wrote: Neil

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 10:31:26 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: I'm confused here. (even more..) Before starting the compile: I ran a comparision of `emerge -v -p kde' and emerge -v -p kde-meta The last showed a much larger pile of dependancies than the former. A longer list, but not larger.

[gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Gerhard Hoogterp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While this is true and one of the things that makes gentoo gentoo, there are already binary packages in portage. mozilla-bin, openoffice-bin. Mostly big packages which take some time to compile. So the idea of having a pre-compiled KDE isn't that

[gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Chris White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: will, have patience my son :P. I usually prefer `grasshopper' and you will need a heavy fake oriental accent : ) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-09 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 12/9/05, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris White wrote: On Saturday 10 December 2005 06:55, Harry Putnam wrote: I'll probably need the asbestos drawers here shortly: I've burned up several hours here with a grindingly slow compile of kde. It is an older machine ( a few years) but

[gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Chris White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sure, why are you emerge-ing the full kde? 1) `emerge kdebase` 2) ??? 3) Profit! First off, this is an install from scratch. While your comment sounds smart, this really only puts off doing it later. And the mindnumbing confusion of what parts of kde

[gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He should have watched me compiling Apache, PHP, MySQL and a lot of other packages on my Pentium 100 with 48MB of RAM, what other distro More `TOSS'... hehe He should of watched me compile emacs on a vic 20 Oh wait .. I'm `he' and now that I

[gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

2005-12-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Those binary packages are supplied by upstream, it's not the same as the Gentoo devs providing compiled packages, although they do in the GRP collections. It's no big deal upgrading KDE anyway. Set PORTAGE_NICENESS to a suitable value and you can keep