Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-31 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Mick wrote: > On Monday 30 Jan 2017 06:10:47 Tom H wrote: >> >> AFAIK, since the advent of defaulting to CoreStorage (OS X 10.10? - OS >> X's equivalent of LVM) and full-disk encryption (OS X 10.10?), >> bootx64.efi/boot.efi cannot be

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-30 Thread Mick
On Monday 30 Jan 2017 06:10:47 Tom H wrote: > On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 6:26 PM, Mick wrote: > > On Sunday 29 Jan 2017 14:44:45 Tom H wrote: > >> [1] Apple's EFI firmware can read hfsplus and it boots (IIRC since OS > >> X 10.10) from a kernel on the Apple_Boot partition

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-30 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 6:26 PM, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 29 Jan 2017 14:44:45 Tom H wrote: >> >> [1] Apple's EFI firmware can read hfsplus and it boots (IIRC since OS >> X 10.10) from a kernel on the Apple_Boot partition (disk0s3). > > Yes, Apple's firmware reads the

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-29 Thread Mick
On Sunday 29 Jan 2017 14:44:45 Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Mick wrote: > > rEFInd is definitely a slick and useful boot manager for multibooting. > > On this occasion I did not install it, but decided to remain > > minimalist, because I do not want

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-29 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Mick wrote: > > rEFInd is definitely a slick and useful boot manager for multibooting. > On this occasion I did not install it, but decided to remain > minimalist, because I do not want to interfere much with the AppleMac > installation.

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-28 Thread Mick
On Saturday 28 Jan 2017 12:20:12 Tom H wrote: > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > On 28/01/17 00:25, Tom H wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > >>> I tried grub2 and dumped it for "rEFit" - ended up

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-28 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > On 28/01/17 00:25, Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: >>> >>> I tried grub2 and dumped it for "rEFit" - ended up a lot easier and >>> more robust. >> >> rEFIt or

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 26 Jan 2017 18:58:07 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 12:03:24 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > > I looked for more information on GRUB form upstream but, on first > > impression, it's been an abandoned project since 2012... > > That's legacy GRUB, not GRUB2. > > But if you want

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-27 Thread Mick
On Saturday 28 Jan 2017 07:49:13 Bill Kenworthy wrote: > On 28/01/17 07:27, Mick wrote: > > On Saturday 28 Jan 2017 06:50:32 Bill Kenworthy wrote: > >> On 28/01/17 00:25, Tom H wrote: > >>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Bill Kenworthy > > > > wrote: > I tried grub2

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-27 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On 28/01/17 07:27, Mick wrote: > On Saturday 28 Jan 2017 06:50:32 Bill Kenworthy wrote: >> On 28/01/17 00:25, Tom H wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Bill Kenworthy > wrote: I tried grub2 and dumped it for "rEFit" - ended up a lot easier and more robust.

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-27 Thread Mick
On Saturday 28 Jan 2017 06:50:32 Bill Kenworthy wrote: > On 28/01/17 00:25, Tom H wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > >> I tried grub2 and dumped it for "rEFit" - ended up a lot easier and > >> more robust. > > > > rEFIt or rEFInd? > > Sorry,

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-27 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On 28/01/17 00:25, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: >> >> I tried grub2 and dumped it for "rEFit" - ended up a lot easier and >> more robust. > > rEFIt or rEFInd? > Sorry, yes it is rEFInd I am using. BillK

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-27 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > I tried grub2 and dumped it for "rEFit" - ended up a lot easier and > more robust. rEFIt or rEFInd?

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-27 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Alan Grimes wrote: > I looked for more information on GRUB form upstream but, on first > impression, it's been an abandoned project since 2012... Apparently > some users have posted patches to things like the invalid sector size > problem

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-26 Thread Ian Bloss
Syslinux family has been my go to boot loader On Thu, Jan 26, 2017, 4:12 PM Bill Kenworthy wrote: > On 27/01/17 01:03, Alan Grimes wrote: > > I looked for more information on GRUB form upstream but, on first > > impression, it's been an abandoned project since 2012...

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-26 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On 27/01/17 01:03, Alan Grimes wrote: > I looked for more information on GRUB form upstream but, on first > impression, it's been an abandoned project since 2012... Apparently some > users have posted patches to things like the invalid sector size problem > but the project has been deaf to these

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 12:03:24 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > I looked for more information on GRUB form upstream but, on first > impression, it's been an abandoned project since 2012... That's legacy GRUB, not GRUB2. But if you want an EFI bootloader, it is much simpler to use bootctl if you use

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-26 Thread Michael Morak
On 26 January 2017 at 18:03, Alan Grimes wrote: > I looked for more information on GRUB form upstream but, on first > impression, it's been an abandoned project since 2012... Apparently some > users have posted patches to things like the invalid sector size problem > but

[gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-26 Thread Alan Grimes
I looked for more information on GRUB form upstream but, on first impression, it's been an abandoned project since 2012... Apparently some users have posted patches to things like the invalid sector size problem but the project has been deaf to these problems and has done nothing whatsoever. =( I