Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo x86 to AMD64

2008-08-25 Thread Anthony Metcalf
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: why downtime? just create a directory, install the 64bit gentoo in that directory. Tar everything up, boot from livecd, untar the tar into the old system. Done. Downtime depends on the speed of your harddisks. Something between 5 and 30minutes. Top. So

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo x86 to AMD64

2008-08-24 Thread Anthony Metcalf
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 22 August 2008 17:48:32 Anthony Metcalf wrote: What about re-building every single package, and re-installing it isn't a complete -reinstall? I can understand that this wouldn't work without the re-boot to live cd step, as you would end up with

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo x86 to AMD64

2008-08-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag, 24. August 2008, Anthony Metcalf wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 22 August 2008 17:48:32 Anthony Metcalf wrote: What about re-building every single package, and re-installing it isn't a complete -reinstall? I can understand that this wouldn't work without the re-boot

[gentoo-user] Gentoo x86 to AMD64

2008-08-22 Thread Anthony Metcalf
Hi, I have a system that started out running on an AMD K6II 450MHz processorAbout 3 months ago, it was upgraded to a Phenom. The process was pretty painless, recompile kernel, install new hardware, reboot, rebuild network drivers etc alter C(XX)FLAGS and emerge -e world Now I

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo x86 to AMD64

2008-08-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 22. August 2008, Anthony Metcalf wrote: Hi, I have a system that started out running on an AMD K6II 450MHz processorAbout 3 months ago, it was upgraded to a Phenom. The process was pretty painless, recompile kernel, install new hardware, reboot, rebuild network drivers

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo x86 to AMD64

2008-08-22 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Anthony, on Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 04:01:42PM +0100, you wrote: I have two theories about how to go about this.no1, install esx 3i on a spare drive, make a 32bit Linux guest and point it's drives at the raw partitions I have now :) no2, alter make.conf to 64bit flags, and emerge -e

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo x86 to AMD64

2008-08-22 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 17:27 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Easiest way: complete reinstall. Probably. You also get the feeling of knowing no old cruft is looming out there to eventually give you a migraine. Having said that I did a migration from x86 to amd64 a few years back and blogged

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo x86 to AMD64

2008-08-22 Thread Anthony Metcalf
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: no. Why? Easiest way: complete reinstall. What about re-building every single package, and re-installing it isn't a complete -reinstall? I can understand that this wouldn't work without the re-boot to live cd step, as you would end up with incompatible

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo x86 to AMD64

2008-08-22 Thread Zhixu Liu
2008/8/22 Anthony Metcalf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I have a system that started out running on an AMD K6II 450MHz processorAbout 3 months ago, it was upgraded to a Phenom. The process was pretty painless, recompile kernel, install new hardware, reboot, rebuild network drivers etc alter

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo x86 to AMD64

2008-08-22 Thread Anthony Metcalf
Albert Hopkins wrote: On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 17:27 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Easiest way: complete reinstall. Probably. You also get the feeling of knowing no old cruft is looming out there to eventually give you a migraine. Having said that I did a migration from x86 to

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo x86 to AMD64

2008-08-22 Thread Anthony Metcalf
Matthias Bethke wrote: I'm not sure I understood #1 correctly but it sounds like neither will work. Going 32-64bit (or vice versa) always requires a fresh install. What I *think* you could do to reduce the hassle of updating all your configs is to start off with a partition with your 32bit

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo x86 to AMD64

2008-08-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 22. August 2008, Anthony Metcalf wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: no. Why? Easiest way: complete reinstall. What about re-building every single package, and re-installing it isn't a complete -reinstall? I can understand that this wouldn't work without the re-boot to live

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo x86 to AMD64

2008-08-22 Thread Norberto Bensa
Quoting Anthony Metcalf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now I have a system that flies, but I want to be able to use 64Bit VMware guests...so, I am quite sure I need to have a 64bit system for VMWare server to allow this... VMware will accept _and_ run x86_64 guest in x86 hosts. Regards, Norberto

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo x86 to AMD64

2008-08-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 22 August 2008 17:48:32 Anthony Metcalf wrote: What about re-building every single package, and re-installing it isn't a complete -reinstall? I can understand that this wouldn't work without the re-boot to live cd step, as you would end up with incompatible libraries/binaries, and