Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive pricing and the near future

2021-10-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday, 6 October 2021 21:24:07 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Well I’m on ye Olde Continent and here I use a price search engine called > geizhals (German for scrooge). But they have an English equivalent ;-) and > of course use European pricing schemes (meaning including taxes, which you

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive pricing and the near future

2021-10-07 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 10:24:07PM +0200 schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: >> Am Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 06:32:24PM -0500 schrieb Dale: >>> Howdy all, >>> […] >>> If anyone reading this does track the pricing of drives, are they on the >>> rise, stable, dropping or what?  Is

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive pricing and the near future

2021-10-06 Thread antlists
On 06/10/2021 21:20, Laurence Perkins wrote: But currently the WD Purples and the Seagate Skyhawks should all be CMR. Seagate have said the Iromwolf range will remain CMR. BarraCuda is now all SMR (renamed from Barracuda, presumably to say it's still the budget range, but the old drives are

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive pricing and the near future

2021-10-06 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 10:24:07PM +0200 schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: > Am Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 06:32:24PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > Howdy all, > > […] > > If anyone reading this does track the pricing of drives, are they on the > > rise, stable, dropping or what?  Is this a good time to expand while

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive pricing and the near future

2021-10-06 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 06:32:24PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > Howdy all, > […] > If anyone reading this does track the pricing of drives, are they on the > rise, stable, dropping or what?  Is this a good time to expand while it > is more cost effective? Well I’m on ye Olde Continent and here I use a

RE: [gentoo-user] Hard drive pricing and the near future

2021-10-06 Thread Laurence Perkins
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:37 PM Laurence Perkins wrote: > > I think what to look for there would be if there's a way to align the BTRFS > > chunks to the SMR blocks. > > There are definitely ways to implement filesystems that are more compatible > with SMR. You basically want something like

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive pricing and the near future

2021-10-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:37 PM Laurence Perkins wrote: > I think what to look for there would be if there's a way to align the BTRFS > chunks to the SMR blocks. There are definitely ways to implement filesystems that are more compatible with SMR. You basically want something like a log-based

RE: [gentoo-user] Hard drive pricing and the near future

2021-10-06 Thread Laurence Perkins
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 12:16 PM Laurence Perkins wrote: > > > > Other option, depending on exactly what your use case is would be to look > > into your choice of filesystem. SMR doesn't like random writes into one of > > its chunks unless it has enough idle time to go back and straighten it

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive pricing and the near future

2021-10-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 12:16 PM Laurence Perkins wrote: > > Other option, depending on exactly what your use case is would be to look > into your choice of filesystem. SMR doesn't like random writes into one of > its chunks unless it has enough idle time to go back and straighten it out >

RE: [gentoo-user] Hard drive pricing and the near future

2021-10-06 Thread Laurence Perkins
> -Original Message- > From: Dale > Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 4:32 PM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: [gentoo-user] Hard drive pricing and the near future > > > Howdy all, > > I still have quite a bit of drive storage but I

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive pricing and the near future

2021-10-05 Thread mad . scientist . at . large
SMR drive prices are hopefully dropping.  A couple of months ago I bought a couple of used Hitachi 4 GB drives, for my raid setup.  Being raid I got recertified drives on ebay.  They were about $65, up from about $50 for the same drives a couple of years ago.  Larger new drives are hopefully

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive pricing and the near future

2021-10-05 Thread Dale
Matt Connell wrote: > On Tue, 2021-10-05 at 18:32 -0500, Dale wrote: >> If anyone reading this does track the pricing of drives, are they on >> the rise, stable, dropping or what? > I can't speak to trends, but I've used this site in the past to keep an > eye out for a deal when it comes up. It

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive pricing and the near future

2021-10-05 Thread Matt Connell
On Tue, 2021-10-05 at 18:32 -0500, Dale wrote: > If anyone reading this does track the pricing of drives, are they on > the rise, stable, dropping or what? I can't speak to trends, but I've used this site in the past to keep an eye out for a deal when it comes up. It only indexes Amazon prices,

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive pricing and the near future

2021-10-05 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 7:32 PM Dale wrote: >> If anyone reading this does track the pricing of drives, are they on the >> rise, stable, dropping or what? Is this a good time to expand while it >> is more cost effective? I shop around on ebay, Amazon and others before >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive pricing and the near future

2021-10-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 7:32 PM Dale wrote: > > If anyone reading this does track the pricing of drives, are they on the > rise, stable, dropping or what? Is this a good time to expand while it > is more cost effective? I shop around on ebay, Amazon and others before > buying. I'm not opposed

[gentoo-user] Hard drive pricing and the near future

2021-10-05 Thread Dale
Howdy all, I still have quite a bit of drive storage but I've read that prices on drives are on the rise.  Thing is, I don't track them much.  I'm looking at buying a 8TB drive and I've researched to make sure I'm getting a PMR/CMR drive.  I'm avoiding a SMR since it doesn't perform as well in my