Re: [gentoo-user] Help with udev (was joliet fs)

2006-12-08 Thread Mick
On Friday 08 December 2006 06:07, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 12/7/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Then I tried mounting a data DVD but all I get is:
 
  $ mount /mnt/cdrom
  mount: No medium found

 Is this the same DVD you wrote as before?  Can you try writing a
 different DVD, or a different brand of media.  Just write some random
 small files to it and try that.  

I've tried both the previous DVD+RW with the large 3G avi file on it and 
another DVD+RW (same brand) with file backups from a NTFS drive.  It couldn't 
read them.  Then I tried reading a CD, CDRW and DVD+R.  No problem with any 
of them, despite the fact that the DVD+R had a c. 4G partition tar.gz on it.  
The problem seems to be with the DVD+RWs.

 I'm thinking one of two possibilities 
 here:

 1. (unlikely) the 3GB file is confusing things, possibly only files up
 to 2GB are supported.  Note that DVD movies usually split things up
 into 1GB chunks, probably for these kinds of issues.

Probably not true if it can read the 4G tar file on a DVD+R that I mention 
above.

 2. (likely) your DVD ROM drive is not capable of reading some or all
 writeable media.  Just because it can read a printed DVD, doesn't mean
 it can read a DVD+R, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW, or DVD-R-DL, etc...  So
 you might try different types and different brands of media to see if
 you can find something it will read.

I have a horrible thought that you are right.  This is the device:


  *-cdrom
   description: DVD reader
   product: Compaq DVD-ROM DRN-8080B
   physical id: 0
   bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   logical name: /dev/hdc
   version: 2.18
   serial: 2001/08/14
   capabilities: packet atapi cdrom removable nonmagnetic dma 
lba iordy audio dvd

K3B shows that it Reads DVD: Yes and it does not write on any media.  I 
believe that it is a Compaq branded LG DVD-ROM.  Is there anywhere where I 
can see what types of media it can read, or is this a trial  error affair?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with udev (was joliet fs)

2006-12-08 Thread Richard Fish

On 12/8/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

K3B shows that it Reads DVD: Yes and it does not write on any media.  I
believe that it is a Compaq branded LG DVD-ROM.  Is there anywhere where I
can see what types of media it can read, or is this a trial  error affair?


According to:

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/storage/lg8080b/en/specs.htm

It should be able to read -R and -RW, but not +R or +RW.  Of course
you said it read a +R, so I don't know that I completely trust this
info.

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with udev (was joliet fs)

2006-12-08 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 08 December 2006 16:36, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 12/8/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  K3B shows that it Reads DVD: Yes and it does not write on any media.  I
  believe that it is a Compaq branded LG DVD-ROM.  Is there anywhere where
  I can see what types of media it can read, or is this a trial  error
  affair?

 According to:

 http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/storage/lg8080b/en/specs.htm

 It should be able to read -R and -RW, but not +R or +RW.  Of course
 you said it read a +R, so I don't know that I completely trust this
 info.

Start k3b. Settings - Configure k3b - Devices. It should tell what your 
device is capable of.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with udev (was joliet fs)

2006-12-08 Thread Mick
On Friday 08 December 2006 15:42, Uwe Thiem wrote:
 On 08 December 2006 16:36, Richard Fish wrote:
  On 12/8/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   K3B shows that it Reads DVD: Yes and it does not write on any media. 
   I believe that it is a Compaq branded LG DVD-ROM.  Is there anywhere
   where I can see what types of media it can read, or is this a trial 
   error affair?
 
  According to:
 
  http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/storage/lg8080b/en/specs.htm
 
  It should be able to read -R and -RW, but not +R or +RW.  Of course
  you said it read a +R, so I don't know that I completely trust this
  info.

 Start k3b. Settings - Configure k3b - Devices. It should tell what your
 device is capable of.

Yes, just like the first paragraph in my previous post above.  Is there a 
command line facility that interrogates the device and shows definitely what 
it can and cannot read?  All that K3B shows is that it can read DVD.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with udev (was joliet fs)

2006-12-07 Thread Richard Fish

On 12/7/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As soon as I run udevstart (or at boot) I get this error about a dozen
 times:

 Dec  7 20:45:29 lappy udevd[2187]: lookup_group: specified group 'cdrw'
 unknown


That's because the cdrw group is needed by udev just-in-case you
have a cdrw drive.


I groupadded cdrw to make sure that I get no more complaints from udev.  Then
I tried mounting a data DVD but all I get is:

$ mount /mnt/cdrom
mount: No medium found


Is this the same DVD you wrote as before?  Can you try writing a
different DVD, or a different brand of media.  Just write some random
small files to it and try that.  I'm thinking one of two possibilities
here:

1. (unlikely) the 3GB file is confusing things, possibly only files up
to 2GB are supported.  Note that DVD movies usually split things up
into 1GB chunks, probably for these kinds of issues.

2. (likely) your DVD ROM drive is not capable of reading some or all
writeable media.  Just because it can read a printed DVD, doesn't mean
it can read a DVD+R, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW, or DVD-R-DL, etc...  So
you might try different types and different brands of media to see if
you can find something it will read.

-Richard
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