Re: [gentoo-user] Illegal instruction error

2010-10-12 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2010/10/12 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com:

 To top it off, I missed the obvious three other times today, all completely
 different.

It is always the obvious things we miss. I should have thought of this
too, as just recently we had one machine failing two times within
weeks because of kaput memory. Thank goodness there is NBD support :)

 I blame it on the 'flu. OK, it's a head cold. Everyone in Joburg has a head
 cold all the time. Mine just got much worse for a few days

Spring time is flu time. Get well soon!

-- 
Daniel Pielmeier



[gentoo-user] Illegal instruction error

2010-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
Uh-oh.

genlop started failing today with the mysterious error Illegal instruction, 
and it's consistent - every time. That's all the message, nothing else:

$ genlop -t portage
Illegal instruction

Now emerge dbus-glib fails similarly:

/bin/sh: line 21:  1084 Illegal instruction /usr/bin/gtkdoc-rebase --
relative --dest-dir=/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.88/image/ --html-
dir=${installdir}


I don't really know where to start looking.
I just know Google is going to give me millions of useless hits with that 
search, but I'll hope over to b.g.o. meanwhile and poke around unless someone 
else has a better idea.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Illegal instruction error

2010-10-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Uh-oh.

 genlop started failing today with the mysterious error Illegal instruction,
 and it's consistent - every time. That's all the message, nothing else:

 $ genlop -t portage
 Illegal instruction

 Now emerge dbus-glib fails similarly:

 /bin/sh: line 21:  1084 Illegal instruction     /usr/bin/gtkdoc-rebase --
 relative --dest-dir=/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.88/image/ --html-
 dir=${installdir}


 I don't really know where to start looking.
 I just know Google is going to give me millions of useless hits with that
 search, but I'll hope over to b.g.o. meanwhile and poke around unless someone
 else has a better idea.

Alan,
   Consider (if possible - is this a desktop or some in service
server?) powering down your machine, reseating your memory DIMMs,
powering back up and if possible running memtest86 (assuming it's an
x86 machine) and then seeing if the error goes away.

   I've run into this a couple of times when memory problems have appeared.

Good luck and best wishes,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Illegal instruction error

2010-10-11 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Alan McKinnon schrieb am 11.10.2010 22:39:
 Uh-oh.
 
 genlop started failing today with the mysterious error Illegal instruction, 
 and it's consistent - every time. That's all the message, nothing else:
 
 $ genlop -t portage
 Illegal instruction
 
 Now emerge dbus-glib fails similarly:
 
 /bin/sh: line 21:  1084 Illegal instruction /usr/bin/gtkdoc-rebase --
 relative --dest-dir=/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.88/image/ --html-
 dir=${installdir}
 
 
 I don't really know where to start looking.
 I just know Google is going to give me millions of useless hits with that 
 search, but I'll hope over to b.g.o. meanwhile and poke around unless someone 
 else has a better idea.
 
 

Google has something to say about this.

Recently changed CFLAGS.
Wrong CFLAGS.
Compiler has problems with march native.
Glibc corruption.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Illegal instruction error

2010-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:02 on Monday 11 October 2010, Mark Knecht 
did opine thusly:

 On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com 
wrote:
  Uh-oh.
  
  genlop started failing today with the mysterious error Illegal
  instruction, and it's consistent - every time. That's all the message,
  nothing else:
  
  $ genlop -t portage
  Illegal instruction
  
  Now emerge dbus-glib fails similarly:
  
  /bin/sh: line 21:  1084 Illegal instruction /usr/bin/gtkdoc-rebase --
  relative --dest-dir=/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.88/image/
  --html- dir=${installdir}
  
  
  I don't really know where to start looking.
  I just know Google is going to give me millions of useless hits with that
  search, but I'll hope over to b.g.o. meanwhile and poke around unless
  someone else has a better idea.
 
 Alan,
Consider (if possible - is this a desktop or some in service
 server?) powering down your machine, reseating your memory DIMMs,
 powering back up and if possible running memtest86 (assuming it's an
 x86 machine) and then seeing if the error goes away.
 
I've run into this a couple of times when memory problems have appeared.


Yes, that was it - memtest failed almost immediately. It's my notebook, with 
2 x 2G memory banks - either one in either position works fine. With both, 
memtest fails and always at the same place - step 48 of whatever.

So I guess it's the motherboard and I'll be calling Dell Support in the 
morning. Am I glad the company insists we buy 3 year next-day on-site 
corporate support for all hardware right now? You betcha!


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Illegal instruction error

2010-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:24 on Monday 11 October 2010, Daniel 
Pielmeier did opine thusly:

 Alan McKinnon schrieb am 11.10.2010 22:39:
  Uh-oh.
  
  genlop started failing today with the mysterious error Illegal
  instruction, and it's consistent - every time. That's all the message,
  nothing else:
  
  $ genlop -t portage
  Illegal instruction
  
  Now emerge dbus-glib fails similarly:
  
  /bin/sh: line 21:  1084 Illegal instruction /usr/bin/gtkdoc-rebase --
  relative --dest-dir=/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.88/image/
  --html- dir=${installdir}
  
  
  I don't really know where to start looking.
  I just know Google is going to give me millions of useless hits with that
  search, but I'll hope over to b.g.o. meanwhile and poke around unless
  someone else has a better idea.
 
 Google has something to say about this.
 
 Recently changed CFLAGS.
 Wrong CFLAGS.
 Compiler has problems with march native.
 Glibc corruption.


It's none of those apparently. I checked CFLAGS set by the ebuild in the 
emerge log before posting and they looked fine. gcc was last updated a month 
ago and the machine gets updated almost daily. 

glibc seems possible but it's a moot point, especially as after investigating 
memory at Mark's suggestion, genlop runs fine now, world updates successfully 
and 2 ./configure errors about aclocal (that I didn't even mention before) 
have gone away.

I should probably start treating this poor machine more like a notebook and 
less like a high performance machine - running flat out almost 24/7 is 
probably outside of it's design spec :-)


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Illegal instruction error

2010-10-11 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Alan McKinnon schrieb am 12.10.2010 00:26:
 
 It's none of those apparently. I checked CFLAGS set by the ebuild in the 
 emerge log before posting and they looked fine. gcc was last updated a month 
 ago and the machine gets updated almost daily. 
 
 glibc seems possible but it's a moot point, especially as after investigating 
 memory at Mark's suggestion, genlop runs fine now, world updates successfully 
 and 2 ./configure errors about aclocal (that I didn't even mention before) 
 have gone away.
 
 I should probably start treating this poor machine more like a notebook and 
 less like a high performance machine - running flat out almost 24/7 is 
 probably outside of it's design spec :-)
 

Glad the reason for your problem was found. Time make use of Dell's NBD
support then :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Illegal instruction error

2010-10-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Apparently, though unproven, at 23:02 on Monday 11 October 2010, Mark Knecht
 did opine thusly:

 On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Uh-oh.
 
  genlop started failing today with the mysterious error Illegal
  instruction, and it's consistent - every time. That's all the message,
  nothing else:
 
  $ genlop -t portage
  Illegal instruction
 
  Now emerge dbus-glib fails similarly:
 
  /bin/sh: line 21:  1084 Illegal instruction     /usr/bin/gtkdoc-rebase --
  relative --dest-dir=/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.88/image/
  --html- dir=${installdir}
 
 
  I don't really know where to start looking.
  I just know Google is going to give me millions of useless hits with that
  search, but I'll hope over to b.g.o. meanwhile and poke around unless
  someone else has a better idea.

 Alan,
    Consider (if possible - is this a desktop or some in service
 server?) powering down your machine, reseating your memory DIMMs,
 powering back up and if possible running memtest86 (assuming it's an
 x86 machine) and then seeing if the error goes away.

    I've run into this a couple of times when memory problems have appeared.


 Yes, that was it - memtest failed almost immediately. It's my notebook, with
 2 x 2G memory banks - either one in either position works fine. With both,
 memtest fails and always at the same place - step 48 of whatever.

 So I guess it's the motherboard and I'll be calling Dell Support in the
 morning. Am I glad the company insists we buy 3 year next-day on-site
 corporate support for all hardware right now? You betcha!


Not glad for the problem but glad I could help.

Best wishes getting it fixed fast and back on your lap.

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Illegal instruction error

2010-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:40 on Tuesday 12 October 2010, Daniel 
Pielmeier did opine thusly:

 Alan McKinnon schrieb am 12.10.2010 00:26:
  It's none of those apparently. I checked CFLAGS set by the ebuild in the
  emerge log before posting and they looked fine. gcc was last updated a
  month ago and the machine gets updated almost daily.
  
  glibc seems possible but it's a moot point, especially as after
  investigating memory at Mark's suggestion, genlop runs fine now, world
  updates successfully and 2 ./configure errors about aclocal (that I
  didn't even mention before) have gone away.
  
  I should probably start treating this poor machine more like a notebook
  and less like a high performance machine - running flat out almost 24/7
  is probably outside of it's design spec :-)
 
 Glad the reason for your problem was found. Time make use of Dell's NBD
 support then :)


:-)

This is what happens with modern reliable hardware - I should have gone for 
the memory as the very very first step. It's been so long since I've had to 
deal with dodgy memory on anything, it just didn't occur to me

I was ready to start looking for weird flags using weird cpu instructions.



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Illegal instruction error

2010-10-11 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 00:26 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 glibc seems possible

glibc is my cause of illegal instructions atm, although I haven't tried
memtest...

 I should probably start treating this poor machine more like a notebook and 
 less like a high performance machine - running flat out almost 24/7 is 
 probably outside of it's design spec :-)

naaah.  Flog it.  If it can't handle it, it's a design fault ;)

-- 
Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au

It ain't over until it's over.
-- Casey Stengel




Re: [gentoo-user] Illegal instruction error

2010-10-11 Thread Dale

Alan McKinnon wrote:

Apparently, though unproven, at 00:40 on Tuesday 12 October 2010, Daniel
Pielmeier did opine thusly:

:-)

This is what happens with modern reliable hardware - I should have gone for
the memory as the very very first step. It's been so long since I've had to
deal with dodgy memory on anything, it just didn't occur to me

I was ready to start looking for weird flags using weird cpu instructions.

   


Glad to know I am not the only one to miss the obvious from time to 
time.  lol


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Illegal instruction error

2010-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:08 on Tuesday 12 October 2010, Dale did 
opine thusly:

 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  Apparently, though unproven, at 00:40 on Tuesday 12 October 2010, Daniel
  
  Pielmeier did opine thusly:
  :-)
  
  This is what happens with modern reliable hardware - I should have gone
  for the memory as the very very first step. It's been so long since I've
  had to deal with dodgy memory on anything, it just didn't occur to
  me
  
  I was ready to start looking for weird flags using weird cpu
  instructions.
 
 Glad to know I am not the only one to miss the obvious from time to
 time.  lol


To top it off, I missed the obvious three other times today, all completely 
different.

I blame it on the 'flu. OK, it's a head cold. Everyone in Joburg has a head 
cold all the time. Mine just got much worse for a few days



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com