Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum

2007-09-27 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:06:00 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you wouldn't mind satisfying my curiosity, what does the jumper do? Determines if the drive is master or slave in the BIOS. But perhaps you're thinking of something else. I'm astonished that

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum

2007-09-27 Thread Florian Philipp
Hans-Werner Hilse schrieb: Hi, On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:06:00 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you wouldn't mind satisfying my curiosity, what does the jumper do? Determines if the drive is master or slave in the BIOS. But perhaps you're thinking of something else.

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast?

2007-09-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Dan Farrell, Seagate's customer service I've never dealt with. I just send in the drive, and a working one comes back in 60 days or so. That is customer service, albeit rather slow service. IBM replaced a faulty Deathstar drive in less than two weeks. -- Neil Bothwick Veni, vermini,

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast?

2007-09-26 Thread Stroller
On 25 Sep 2007, at 20:57, Marzan, Richard non Unisys wrote: ... MAxtor sucks in my opinion. Seagate will replace a warrantied drive And who owns Maxtor?... Microsoft Windows Sucks, but that doesn't mean Xbox sucks because they're owned by MS. This isn't a great example. I have a customer

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum

2007-09-26 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:20:10 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:38:45 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forgot to add: this all started when I made hda into hdb and vice versa by

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast?

2007-09-26 Thread maxim wexler
--- Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Dan Farrell, Seagate's customer service I've never dealt with. I just send in the drive, and a working one comes back in 60 days or so. That is customer service, albeit rather slow service. IBM replaced a faulty Deathstar drive in

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum

2007-09-26 Thread maxim wexler
If you wouldn't mind satisfying my curiosity, what does the jumper do? Determines if the drive is master or slave in the BIOS. But perhaps you're thinking of something else. I'm astonished that someone doesn't know that. If you ever put a IDE drive in a PC you would have to know what the

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum

2007-09-26 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 15:06 -0700, maxim wexler wrote: Determines if the drive is master or slave in the BIOS. But perhaps you're thinking of something else. I'm astonished that someone doesn't know that. If you ever put a IDE drive in a PC you would have to know what the jumper is

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum

2007-09-26 Thread Dan Farrell
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:38:44 -0500 Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most modern IDE hard drives/motherboards come with cable-select enabled. These days you rarely need to deal with jumpers on a hard drive (which are prone to error). Some bioses also support swapping device priority

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum

2007-09-26 Thread W.Kenworthy
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 17:38 -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 15:06 -0700, maxim wexler wrote: Determines if the drive is master or slave in the BIOS. ... Most modern IDE hard drives/motherboards come with cable-select enabled. These days you rarely need to deal with

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum

2007-09-26 Thread Dale
W.Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 17:38 -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 15:06 -0700, maxim wexler wrote: Determines if the drive is master or slave in the BIOS. ... Most modern IDE hard drives/motherboards come with cable-select enabled.

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum

2007-09-26 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 08:47 +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 17:38 -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 15:06 -0700, maxim wexler wrote: Determines if the drive is master or slave in the BIOS. ... Most modern IDE hard drives/motherboards come with

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum

2007-09-26 Thread Dan Farrell
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:03:27 +0930 Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never had cable select work for me - I find it is highly dependant on the specific IDE cable, drive, and bios combination. I _always_ use master / slave jumpers, and don't even bother with cable select. Even if

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast?

2007-09-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:21:25 -0700 (PDT), maxim wexler wrote: No other problems w/ the drive. Drive is Maxtor 120G IDE. Very low hours on it. emerge smartmontools and run smartctl on the drive. -- Neil Bothwick There is no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole. signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast?

2007-09-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag, 25. September 2007, maxim wexler wrote: Hi group, Just noticed this in dmesg: snip hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hdb: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum

2007-09-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag, 25. September 2007, maxim wexler wrote: Forgot to add: this all started when I made hda into hdb and vice versa by changing the jumpers on the two IDE drives in this particular PC and telling the BIOS to boot from the 2nd drive. And updating grub and fstab, of course. have the

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast?

2007-09-25 Thread maxim wexler
so it is still covered by warranty? Replace it! Can I just let this slide? no, replace it. Tried to. Maxtor insists that you run a special boot disk which supposedly spits out a number code that tells them what the problem is. Every time I ran the program it said my drive was fine. No

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast?

2007-09-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag, 25. September 2007, maxim wexler wrote: so it is still covered by warranty? Replace it! Can I just let this slide? no, replace it. Tried to. Maxtor insists that you run a special boot disk which supposedly spits out a number code that tells them what the problem is.

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast?

2007-09-25 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:00:22 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maxtor was very unhelpful and linux-illiterate. I won't be buying another drive from them if I can avoid it. MAxtor sucks in my opinion. Seagate will replace a warrantied drive without much hassle, and they aren't

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum

2007-09-25 Thread Dan Farrell
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:38:45 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forgot to add: this all started when I made hda into hdb and vice versa by changing the jumpers on the two IDE drives in this particular PC and telling the BIOS to boot from the 2nd drive. And updating grub and

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast?

2007-09-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:56:28 -0500, Dan Farrell wrote: MAxtor sucks in my opinion. Seagate will replace a warrantied drive And who owns Maxtor?... -- Neil Bothwick Where do forest rangers go to get away from it all? signature.asc Description: PGP signature

RE: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast?

2007-09-25 Thread Marzan, Richard non Unisys
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:08 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast? On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:56:28 -0500, Dan Farrell wrote: MAxtor sucks in my opinion

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast?

2007-09-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Marzan, Richard non Unisys, MAxtor sucks in my opinion. Seagate will replace a warrantied drive And who owns Maxtor?... Microsoft Windows Sucks, but that doesn't mean Xbox sucks because they're owned by MS. Maybe the Maxtor division uses a different manufacturing process

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast?

2007-09-25 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:45:40 +0100 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Marzan, Richard non Unisys, MAxtor sucks in my opinion. Seagate will replace a warrantied drive And who owns Maxtor?... Microsoft Windows Sucks, but that doesn't mean Xbox sucks because

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum

2007-09-25 Thread maxim wexler
--- Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:38:45 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forgot to add: this all started when I made hda into hdb and vice versa by changing the jumpers on the two IDE drives in this particular PC and telling the BIOS

[gentoo-user] Is this drive toast?

2007-09-24 Thread maxim wexler
Hi group, Just noticed this in dmesg: snip hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hdb: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hdb: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError

[gentoo-user] Is this drive toast--addendum

2007-09-24 Thread maxim wexler
Forgot to add: this all started when I made hda into hdb and vice versa by changing the jumpers on the two IDE drives in this particular PC and telling the BIOS to boot from the 2nd drive. And updating grub and fstab, of course. mw