Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-22 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 22 January 2008, Wayn0 wrote: Now back on topic, I have never really been a KDE users in the past. I always stuck to openbox or GNOME. However there seems to be a lot of hype around the new KDE and I think I am gonna give it a go. KDE 4.0.0 is far from being as feature-rich as 3.5.x. It

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 22 January 2008, Wayn0 wrote: Dale wrote: So yeah anybody in Johannesburg need the sources let me know, will be downloading them this evening. It's 300-odd M, maybe you wanna come by my office in Randburg and get them off me? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-22 Thread BRM
--- Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22 January 2008, Wayn0 wrote: Now back on topic, I have never really been a KDE users in the past. I always stuck to openbox or GNOME. However there seems to be a lot of hype around the new KDE and I think I am gonna give it a go. KDE 4.0.0 is

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-22 Thread Mantas Povilaitis
2008/1/22, BRM [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So I was wondering what kind of time frame would be likely for getting KDE4 to be pushed to testing and then to open availability. A couple months? Just curious. I noticed it finally showed up as a hard mask. AFAIK 4.0.0 will not be unmasked. Only 4.0.1 (or

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-22 Thread Thomas Pani
Mantas Povilaitis wrote: AFAIK 4.0.0 will not be unmasked. Only 4.0.1 (or 4.1?). yep. from gentoo-dev: Wulf C. Krueger wrote: Carsten Lohrke wrote: The code base has too many issues and is incomplete compared to KDE 3.5, so it's not ready to push it to the regular ~arch user, yet. I

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Graham Murray
Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why don't you have two terminals going - one doing -f, and the other compiling it for real. They will wait nicely for each other. At least then you'll get the compile going while you wait for the next download. Or set FEATURES=parallel-fetch in

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:00:35 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: not quite the same :) emerge -u world would download one package, and compile it, download the next, compile it. So the total time is the sum of the individual downloads and compiles. Not if you add parallel-fetch to FEATURES. --

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:00:35 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: not quite the same :) emerge -u world would download one package, and compile it, download the next, compile it. So the total time is the sum of the individual downloads and compiles. Not if you add

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Dave Oxley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've got KDE4 installed and running mostly fine. It loses some configuration on a log off and on and it shows 2 batteries rather than the 1 which is the only one the laptop has! But other than that switched to it by default now. How do I prevent a

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 21 January 2008, Dave Oxley wrote: I've got KDE4 installed and running mostly fine. It loses some configuration on a log off and on and it shows 2 batteries rather than the 1 which is the only one the laptop has! But other than that switched to it by default now. For me, kmail does not

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:33:07 +1100, Dave Oxley wrote: How do I prevent a --depclean from trying to delete my KDE 3.5 though? grep '^kde-base' /var/lib/portage/world | sed 's/\(.*\)/~\1-3.5.8/' /var/lib/portage/world -- Neil Bothwick Suborbital Ballistic-Propulsion Engineer Not Exactly A

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread pu stshine
Hi,everyone,I wanted to install KDE4 and meet a problem like this : emerge kde Linking CXX shared module ../../../../lib/kcm_kwinoptions.so [ 45%] Built target kcm_kwinoptions make: *** [all] Error 2 * * ERROR: kde-base/kdebase-4.0.0 failed. * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 1701:

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Eddie Mihalow Jr
Dale wrote: Iain Buchanan wrote: didn't you say aDSL was on the way? May it speed to your line! Yep, it is on the way. I plan to surf for a week, NON STOP!! Little progress today. Emerging (33 of 205) kde-base/libkonq-4.0.0 to / Downloading

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Montag, 21. Januar 2008, Dave Oxley wrote: I've got KDE4 installed and running mostly fine. It loses some configuration on a log off and on and it shows 2 batteries rather than the 1 which is the only one the laptop has! But other than that switched to it by default now. How do I prevent a

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Dale
Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: Dale wrote: Iain Buchanan wrote: didn't you say aDSL was on the way? May it speed to your line! Yep, it is on the way. I plan to surf for a week, NON STOP!! Little progress today. Emerging (33 of 205) kde-base/libkonq-4.0.0 to / Downloading

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Eddie Mihalow Jr
Dale wrote: Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: Dale wrote: Iain Buchanan wrote: didn't you say aDSL was on the way? May it speed to your line! Yep, it is on the way. I plan to surf for a week, NON STOP!! Little progress today. Emerging (33 of 205) kde-base/libkonq-4.0.0 to / Downloading

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Jerry McBride
On Monday 21 January 2008 06:40:42 pm Iain Buchanan wrote: On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 09:09 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:00:35 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: not quite the same :) emerge -u world would download one package, and compile it, download the next, compile it. So

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Dale
Jerry McBride wrote: On Monday 21 January 2008 06:40:42 pm Iain Buchanan wrote: On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 09:09 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:00:35 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: not quite the same :) emerge -u world would download one package, and compile it,

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Wayn0
Dale wrote: Dale says a prayer that it is soon I feel you pain I was on dial up for many years and until just two years ago! After which I moved to the UK for a short time where I was suddenly paying the for 16mb uncapped as I was for my dial up! I am back in South Africa now and using

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: H, I get this blocker: [blocks B ] =x11-libs/qt-4.4_rc:4 (is blocking x11-libs/qt-core-4.4.0_rc1) Is unmerging qt a good idea? Yes, looking in the ebuild, qt-4.4 seems to be organized as a meta package and you have older monolithic ones. So

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. Stinking dial-up. :-@ That will take a lng while. Most KDE4 packages are far larger than there KDE3 counterparts. Just as an example: kdebase-3.3.8.tar.bz2 was 24MB. Now we have three

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: H, I get this blocker: [blocks B ] =x11-libs/qt-4.4_rc:4 (is blocking x11-libs/qt-core-4.4.0_rc1) Is unmerging qt a good idea? Yes, looking in the ebuild, qt-4.4 seems to be organized as a meta package and

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Dale
Uwe Thiem wrote: On 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. Stinking dial-up. :-@ That will take a lng while. Most KDE4 packages are far larger than there KDE3 counterparts. Just as an example:

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. Stinking dial-up. :-@ On a second thought: Can't a kind soul in the US send Dale the tarballs on a CD? (I'd do it, but it would take forever from here.) Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest,

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Dale
Uwe Thiem wrote: On 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. Stinking dial-up. :-@ On a second thought: Can't a kind soul in the US send Dale the tarballs on a CD? (I'd do it, but it would take forever from here.) Uwe

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Justin Findlay
On AD 2008 January 20 Sunday 06:48:10 AM -0600, Dale wrote: Funnier still, they recently went up on dial-up. It costs more than DSL does. Oh, since I am on the net so much, they also charge me for the time on the phone too. I end up paying about $30 to $40 a month for internet costs. Funny

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Jerry McBride
Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. Stinking dial-up. :-@ That will take a lng while. Most KDE4 packages are far larger than there KDE3 counterparts. Just as an example: kdebase-3.3.8.tar.bz2 was 24MB. Now we have three kdebase tarballs:

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Dale
Justin Findlay wrote: On AD 2008 January 20 Sunday 06:48:10 AM -0600, Dale wrote: Funnier still, they recently went up on dial-up. It costs more than DSL does. Oh, since I am on the net so much, they also charge me for the time on the phone too. I end up paying about $30 to $40 a month

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: I wish I lived in Utopia. LOL :-p Well, I made some progress while I was napping. I'm here now: Emerging (31 of 205) kde-base/libkdeedu-4.0.0 to / Downloading 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz 2' --10:48:22--

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 20 January 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: I wish I lived in Utopia. LOL :-p Well, I made some progress while I was napping. I'm here now: Emerging (31 of 205) kde-base/libkdeedu-4.0.0 to / Downloading

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 20 January 2008, Justin Findlay wrote: I pay $40/month for 14 Mib up and down and I can run it at max throughput indefinitely. I seeded all 92 gentoo torrents for a month once to test this out. :-) Here in Utah, USA we have the largest community fiber network in the country called

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 12:37 -0600, Dale wrote: Emerging (31 of 205) kde-base/libkdeedu-4.0.0 to / Downloading 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2' --10:48:22-- ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2 =

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 06:48 -0600, Dale wrote: Heck, if the price is right, I'd order them. I try to order a new Gentoo install CD when it comes out, been a while I know, but it takes about a week to download a CD. Last one I got was when I was with my ex and we had cable then. Funny, in

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Sat, 2008-01-19 at 19:50 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: Read Neil's reply. He hit the nail on the finger. That's worthy of sending to Scott Adams! I hope he hit the nail on the (it's) head, not on his finger :) -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au ER...HO. HO. HO. --

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Dale
Iain Buchanan wrote: didn't you say aDSL was on the way? May it speed to your line! Yep, it is on the way. I plan to surf for a week, NON STOP!! Little progress today. Emerging (33 of 205) kde-base/libkonq-4.0.0 to / Downloading

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Dale
Iain Buchanan wrote: On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 06:48 -0600, Dale wrote: Heck, if the price is right, I'd order them. I try to order a new Gentoo install CD when it comes out, been a while I know, but it takes about a week to download a CD. Last one I got was when I was with my ex and we

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 23:03 -0600, Dale wrote: Iain Buchanan wrote: On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 06:48 -0600, Dale wrote: Heck, if the price is right, I'd order them. I try to order a new Gentoo install CD when it comes out, been a while I know, but it takes about a week to download a

[gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
Hi folks, after the painful and time-consuming creation of /etc/portage/package.unmask for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose =kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0 tells me: [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0) I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Dale
Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, after the painful and time-consuming creation of /etc/portage/package.unmask for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose =kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0 tells me: [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0) I do not have emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Δημήτριος Ροπόκης
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:42:55 +0200, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, after the painful and time-consuming creation of /etc/portage/package.unmask for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose =kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0 tells me: [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Paul Salters
On Saturday 19 January 2008 16:52:45 Δημήτριος Ροπόκης wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:42:55 +0200, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, after the painful and time-consuming creation of /etc/portage/package.unmask for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 19 January 2008, Dale wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, after the painful and time-consuming creation of /etc/portage/package.unmask for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose =kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0 tells me: [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:32:13 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0) I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I cannot unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this? It's 3.5.7, do you have an older

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Dale
Uwe Thiem wrote: ??? According to emerge, kdebase-3.5.7-r6 is *blocking* kdelibs-4.0.0. See my original post. Uwe I can't find it but I read somewhere that portage wants at least 3.5.8-r2 or better to install 4.0. Again, I have NO CLUE why. My question if this is true, what if you

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 19 January 2008, Paul Salters wrote: On Saturday 19 January 2008 16:52:45 Δημήτριος Ροπόκης wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:42:55 +0200, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, after the painful and time-consuming creation of /etc/portage/package.unmask for

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Juul
Uwe Thiem schreef: On 19 January 2008, Paul Salters wrote: hi, you need to unmask kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 and emerge that. should work :) ??? According to emerge, kdebase-3.5.7-r6 is *blocking* kdelibs-4.0.0. See my original post. It is blocking older versions 3.5.7-r6.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 19 January 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:32:13 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0) I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I cannot unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:39:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: BIG thanks! And a Hansa draught will be ready for you if you ever visit Namibia. ;-) I may just take you up on that ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Bother said Pooh when C4 postponed B5 signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 19 January 2008, Dale wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: ??? According to emerge, kdebase-3.5.7-r6 is *blocking* kdelibs-4.0.0. See my original post. Uwe I can't find it but I read somewhere that portage wants at least 3.5.8-r2 or better to install 4.0. Again, I have NO CLUE why. My

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 19 January 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:39:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: BIG thanks! And a Hansa draught will be ready for you if you ever visit Namibia. ;-) I may just take you up on that ;-) Neil, print that mail off and keep it in a safe place, Uwe is

[REALLY OT] [BEER] Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 19 January 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 19 January 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:39:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: BIG thanks! And a Hansa draught will be ready for you if you ever visit Namibia. ;-) I may just take you up on that ;-) Neil, print

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Samstag, 19. Januar 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: On 19 January 2008, Dale wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, after the painful and time-consuming creation of /etc/portage/package.unmask for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose =kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0 tells me: [blocks B ]

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Jerry McBride
On Saturday 19 January 2008 02:58:11 pm Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Samstag, 19. Januar 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: On 19 January 2008, Dale wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, after the painful and time-consuming creation of /etc/portage/package.unmask for KDE 4, emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Dale
Jerry McBride wrote: On Saturday 19 January 2008 02:58:11 pm Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: error in ebuild? I did not have that block. Maybe you should remove the blocker from the ebuild. Apart from that, kde4 installed very nice in parallel to 3.5 - in 2.5h (with qt4 rebuilt). Sadly I