Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice and pasting HTML from web pages.
On 03/03/20 09:36, Michael wrote: > As a rule I do not have java on my systems. Before you go recompiling LO to > take USE=java out, note that LO uses java for a number of plugins and without > it they won't work. For example, some of database plugins used in LO Base to > open and edit SQL databases rely on java. It's been years since I edited > database tables with LO, so I have no use for it at present and this is why > I've taken it out. YMMV. Java in LO is deprecated. Unfortunately, the old database they are trying to upgrade from was written in Java, so actually moving forward and dropping the Java dependency has turned out to be a rather bigger job than planned ... Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice and pasting HTML from web pages.
On 3/2/20 6:07 PM, Dale wrote: Howdy, I don't use LOo a whole lot but several months ago, I noticed a problem.� Sometimes I go to a electronic type website that has info on circuits and how something works.� Those pages usually contain text, pics and such.� I highlight what contains the info I want, which may include some things I don't, then copy it to my clipboard.� I then go to LOo and paste it as HTML since that's what it is.� Once pasted, I remove things I don't want, such as social media icons and other unwanted things.� I also make some images larger, make text larger and such as well.� When I get it right, I print it as a pdf file or save it as a LOo document.� That's how I did it in the past.� When I would paste the contents, it would include images and all and would be done in seconds, well under a minute for sure. When I paste the content now, it doesn't include pics.� The boxes is there and text for the link to the image but no image.� It also locks LOo up for minutes.� If I try to scroll up or down, it locks up again. Even with all that, it never loads the images.� I end up killing the process.� I think this started when the 6.3.* versions came out.� I would normally go back to a older version but those are no longer in the tree. I'm wondering if a USE flag could make it work again.� I used euse -i to see what each flag does but I'm not seeing anything that would change it.� What I think the problem could be, LOo can't reach the network anymore.� In the past when I pasted content, I could see activity on the network.� I think LOo was fetching the pics and maybe even some other info as well.� Thing is, I don't see why it can't now. Again, USE flag maybe??? Here is the info for libreoffice. root@fireball / # emerge -av libreoffice These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild�� R�� ~] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.5.2::gentoo� USE="cups dbus gtk java kde mariadb pdfimport -accessibility -bluetooth -branding -coinmp -debug -eds -firebird -googledrive -gstreamer -gtk2 -ldap -odk -postgres -test" LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="-nlpsolver -scripting-beanshell -scripting-javascript -wiki-publisher" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_6 -python3_7 -python3_8" 233,805 KiB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 233,805 KiB Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] n Quitting. root@fireball / # equery list -po libreoffice �* Searching for libreoffice ... [-P-] [� ] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.4.2-r1:0 [IP-] [� ] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.5.2:0 [-P-] [ -] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.:0 [-P-] [ -] app-office/libreoffice-:0 root@fireball / # Anyone have a clue how to fix this? I use LO quite a lot; but it is a beast and they are constantly 'tweaking' small details SO, you are not alone. If you'll post and example download and a brief example guide to what use to work and what does not work now, I'll see if I can duplicate the problem. Here is my current LO setup: Installed versions: 6.3.4.2-r1^t(02:24:34 AM 02/11/2020)(branding cups dbus gstreamer gtk java ldap mariadb odk pdfimport postgres and app-office/libreoffice-l10n Installed versions: 6.3.4.2... en I'm interested in more advanced viewing of any and all sorts of electrical/electronic file viewing. curiously, James
Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice and pasting HTML from web pages.
On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 08:17:27 GMT Dale wrote: > madscientistatlarge wrote: > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > > > On Monday, March 2, 2020 5:35 PM, Dale wrote: > >> Michael wrote: > >>> On Monday, 2 March 2020 23:07:03 GMT Dale wrote: > Howdy, > I don't use LOo a whole lot but several months ago, I noticed a > problem. Sometimes I go to a electronic type website that has info on > circuits and how something works. Those pages usually contain text, > pics and such. I highlight what contains the info I want, which may > include some things I don't, then copy it to my clipboard. I then go to > LOo and paste it as HTML since that's what it is. Once pasted, I remove > things I don't want, such as social media icons and other unwanted > things. I also make some images larger, make text larger and such as > well. When I get it right, I print it as a pdf file or save it as a LOo > document. That's how I did it in the past. When I would paste the > contents, it would include images and all and would be done in seconds, > well under a minute for sure. > When I paste the content now, it doesn't include pics. The boxes is > there and text for the link to the image but no image. It also locks > > > > > > > Thanks. > Dale > > :-) :-) > > I haven't looked into how LO works, but it may have something to do > with the tonne of JavaScript HTML pages contain these days and how > this is processed/ filtered. When I try it here it works for small > amounts of text/pics, but unlike your LO, I do not have java installed > as a dependency. > >>> > >>> An alternative you could try is to save the page as HTML - File/Save > >>> Page As. Then select one of the options to save it as below, which when > >>> you open with LO does not take long to process. If you select 'HTML > >>> page complete' it will save all JS and images in a separate folder, > >>> which you could delete thereafter, or repurpose as you see fit. > >> > >> Now that helps a LOT. It works just like it used to work. Very fast > >> too. It took maybe one to two seconds and it was done. Everything is > >> there too. > >> > >> It takes a long while to compile LOo but I'm going to try disabling java > >> just to see if that helps. I'm not sure what all the page contains but > >> here's a link to the page I just tested this with. It's not like it is > >> some super secret site or anything. > >> > >> https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/waveforms/555-circuits-part-1.html > >> > >> It looks like plain stuff to me but I have no idea what is going on > >> behind the scene. Maybe some others will enjoy that site. It has some > >> good info and they add stuff pretty regular. > >> > >> Thanks much. It's a workaround but at least I can get them copied and > >> printed now. ;-) > >> > >> Dale > >> > >> :-) :-) > > > > One caveat when using print to pdf, you should immediately check the pdf, > > sometimes it only saves part of the page, not sure why, trying it again > > seems to usually work. > Very true. I always check when printing to pdf. I've noticed in the > past that it sometimes leaves out things as well. One thing about copy > and pasting it into LOo, if it's there in LOo then it's there when I > print. I have had printing from a web browser leave out things tho. > > It's good info to have tho. > > Thanks. > > Dale > > :-) :-) As a rule I do not have java on my systems. Before you go recompiling LO to take USE=java out, note that LO uses java for a number of plugins and without it they won't work. For example, some of database plugins used in LO Base to open and edit SQL databases rely on java. It's been years since I edited database tables with LO, so I have no use for it at present and this is why I've taken it out. YMMV. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice and pasting HTML from web pages.
madscientistatlarge wrote: > > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Monday, March 2, 2020 5:35 PM, Dale wrote: > >> Michael wrote: >> >>> On Monday, 2 March 2020 23:07:03 GMT Dale wrote: >>> Howdy, I don't use LOo a whole lot but several months ago, I noticed a problem. Sometimes I go to a electronic type website that has info on circuits and how something works. Those pages usually contain text, pics and such. I highlight what contains the info I want, which may include some things I don't, then copy it to my clipboard. I then go to LOo and paste it as HTML since that's what it is. Once pasted, I remove things I don't want, such as social media icons and other unwanted things. I also make some images larger, make text larger and such as well. When I get it right, I print it as a pdf file or save it as a LOo document. That's how I did it in the past. When I would paste the contents, it would include images and all and would be done in seconds, well under a minute for sure. When I paste the content now, it doesn't include pics. The boxes is there and text for the link to the image but no image. It also locks > > Thanks. Dale :-) :-) I haven't looked into how LO works, but it may have something to do with the tonne of JavaScript HTML pages contain these days and how this is processed/ filtered. When I try it here it works for small amounts of text/pics, but unlike your LO, I do not have java installed as a dependency. >>> An alternative you could try is to save the page as HTML - File/Save Page >>> As. >>> Then select one of the options to save it as below, which when you open with >>> LO does not take long to process. If you select 'HTML page complete' it will >>> save all JS and images in a separate folder, which you could delete >>> thereafter, or repurpose as you see fit. >> Now that helps a LOT. It works just like it used to work. Very fast >> too. It took maybe one to two seconds and it was done. Everything is >> there too. >> >> It takes a long while to compile LOo but I'm going to try disabling java >> just to see if that helps. I'm not sure what all the page contains but >> here's a link to the page I just tested this with. It's not like it is >> some super secret site or anything. >> >> https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/waveforms/555-circuits-part-1.html >> >> It looks like plain stuff to me but I have no idea what is going on >> behind the scene. Maybe some others will enjoy that site. It has some >> good info and they add stuff pretty regular. >> >> Thanks much. It's a workaround but at least I can get them copied and >> printed now. ;-) >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) > One caveat when using print to pdf, you should immediately check the pdf, > sometimes it only saves part of the page, not sure why, trying it again seems > to usually work. > > Very true. I always check when printing to pdf. I've noticed in the past that it sometimes leaves out things as well. One thing about copy and pasting it into LOo, if it's there in LOo then it's there when I print. I have had printing from a web browser leave out things tho. It's good info to have tho. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice and pasting HTML from web pages.
Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, March 2, 2020 5:35 PM, Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > > On Monday, 2 March 2020 23:07:03 GMT Dale wrote: > > > > > Howdy, > > > I don't use LOo a whole lot but several months ago, I noticed a > > > problem. Sometimes I go to a electronic type website that has info on > > > circuits and how something works. Those pages usually contain text, > > > pics and such. I highlight what contains the info I want, which may > > > include some things I don't, then copy it to my clipboard. I then go to > > > LOo and paste it as HTML since that's what it is. Once pasted, I remove > > > things I don't want, such as social media icons and other unwanted > > > things. I also make some images larger, make text larger and such as > > > well. When I get it right, I print it as a pdf file or save it as a LOo > > > document. That's how I did it in the past. When I would paste the > > > contents, it would include images and all and would be done in seconds, > > > well under a minute for sure. > > > When I paste the content now, it doesn't include pics. The boxes is > > > there and text for the link to the image but no image. It also locks > > > Thanks. > > > Dale > > > :-) :-) > > > I haven't looked into how LO works, but it may have something to do with > > > the > > > tonne of JavaScript HTML pages contain these days and how this is > > > processed/ > > > filtered. When I try it here it works for small amounts of text/pics, but > > > unlike your LO, I do not have java installed as a dependency. > > > > An alternative you could try is to save the page as HTML - File/Save Page > > As. > > Then select one of the options to save it as below, which when you open with > > LO does not take long to process. If you select 'HTML page complete' it will > > save all JS and images in a separate folder, which you could delete > > thereafter, or repurpose as you see fit. > > Now that helps a LOT. It works just like it used to work. Very fast > too. It took maybe one to two seconds and it was done. Everything is > there too. > > It takes a long while to compile LOo but I'm going to try disabling java > just to see if that helps. I'm not sure what all the page contains but > here's a link to the page I just tested this with. It's not like it is > some super secret site or anything. > > https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/waveforms/555-circuits-part-1.html > > It looks like plain stuff to me but I have no idea what is going on > behind the scene. Maybe some others will enjoy that site. It has some > good info and they add stuff pretty regular. > > Thanks much. It's a workaround but at least I can get them copied and > printed now. ;-) > > Dale > > :-) :-) One caveat when using print to pdf, you should immediately check the pdf, sometimes it only saves part of the page, not sure why, trying it again seems to usually work.
Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice and pasting HTML from web pages.
Michael wrote: > On Monday, 2 March 2020 23:07:03 GMT Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I don't use LOo a whole lot but several months ago, I noticed a >> problem. Sometimes I go to a electronic type website that has info on >> circuits and how something works. Those pages usually contain text, >> pics and such. I highlight what contains the info I want, which may >> include some things I don't, then copy it to my clipboard. I then go to >> LOo and paste it as HTML since that's what it is. Once pasted, I remove >> things I don't want, such as social media icons and other unwanted >> things. I also make some images larger, make text larger and such as >> well. When I get it right, I print it as a pdf file or save it as a LOo >> document. That's how I did it in the past. When I would paste the >> contents, it would include images and all and would be done in seconds, >> well under a minute for sure. >> >> When I paste the content now, it doesn't include pics. The boxes is >> there and text for the link to the image but no image. It also locks >> LOo up for minutes. If I try to scroll up or down, it locks up again. >> Even with all that, it never loads the images. I end up killing the >> process. I think this started when the 6.3.* versions came out. I >> would normally go back to a older version but those are no longer in the >> tree. I'm wondering if a USE flag could make it work again. I used euse >> -i to see what each flag does but I'm not seeing anything that would >> change it. What I think the problem could be, LOo can't reach the >> network anymore. In the past when I pasted content, I could see >> activity on the network. I think LOo was fetching the pics and maybe >> even some other info as well. Thing is, I don't see why it can't now. >> Again, USE flag maybe??? >> >> Here is the info for libreoffice. >> >> >> root@fireball / # emerge -av libreoffice >> >> These are the packages that would be merged, in order: >> >> Calculating dependencies... done! >> [ebuild R ~] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.5.2::gentoo USE="cups dbus >> gtk java kde mariadb pdfimport -accessibility -bluetooth -branding >> -coinmp -debug -eds -firebird -googledrive -gstreamer -gtk2 -ldap -odk >> -postgres -test" LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="-nlpsolver -scripting-beanshell >> -scripting-javascript -wiki-publisher" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_6 >> -python3_7 -python3_8" 233,805 KiB >> >> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 233,805 KiB >> >> Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] n >> >> Quitting. >> >> root@fireball / # equery list -po libreoffice >> * Searching for libreoffice ... >> [-P-] [ ] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.4.2-r1:0 >> [IP-] [ ] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.5.2:0 >> [-P-] [ -] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.:0 >> [-P-] [ -] app-office/libreoffice-:0 >> root@fireball / # >> >> >> Anyone have a clue how to fix this? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) > I haven't looked into how LO works, but it may have something to do with the > tonne of JavaScript HTML pages contain these days and how this is processed/ > filtered. When I try it here it works for small amounts of text/pics, but > unlike your LO, I do not have java installed as a dependency. > > An alternative you could try is to save the page as HTML - File/Save Page As. > > Then select one of the options to save it as below, which when you open with > LO does not take long to process. If you select 'HTML page complete' it will > save all JS and images in a separate folder, which you could delete > thereafter, or repurpose as you see fit. Now that helps a LOT. It works just like it used to work. Very fast too. It took maybe one to two seconds and it was done. Everything is there too. It takes a long while to compile LOo but I'm going to try disabling java just to see if that helps. I'm not sure what all the page contains but here's a link to the page I just tested this with. It's not like it is some super secret site or anything. https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/waveforms/555-circuits-part-1.html It looks like plain stuff to me but I have no idea what is going on behind the scene. Maybe some others will enjoy that site. It has some good info and they add stuff pretty regular. Thanks much. It's a workaround but at least I can get them copied and printed now. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice and pasting HTML from web pages.
On Monday, 2 March 2020 23:07:03 GMT Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I don't use LOo a whole lot but several months ago, I noticed a > problem. Sometimes I go to a electronic type website that has info on > circuits and how something works. Those pages usually contain text, > pics and such. I highlight what contains the info I want, which may > include some things I don't, then copy it to my clipboard. I then go to > LOo and paste it as HTML since that's what it is. Once pasted, I remove > things I don't want, such as social media icons and other unwanted > things. I also make some images larger, make text larger and such as > well. When I get it right, I print it as a pdf file or save it as a LOo > document. That's how I did it in the past. When I would paste the > contents, it would include images and all and would be done in seconds, > well under a minute for sure. > > When I paste the content now, it doesn't include pics. The boxes is > there and text for the link to the image but no image. It also locks > LOo up for minutes. If I try to scroll up or down, it locks up again. > Even with all that, it never loads the images. I end up killing the > process. I think this started when the 6.3.* versions came out. I > would normally go back to a older version but those are no longer in the > tree. I'm wondering if a USE flag could make it work again. I used euse > -i to see what each flag does but I'm not seeing anything that would > change it. What I think the problem could be, LOo can't reach the > network anymore. In the past when I pasted content, I could see > activity on the network. I think LOo was fetching the pics and maybe > even some other info as well. Thing is, I don't see why it can't now. > Again, USE flag maybe??? > > Here is the info for libreoffice. > > > root@fireball / # emerge -av libreoffice > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > Calculating dependencies... done! > [ebuild R ~] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.5.2::gentoo USE="cups dbus > gtk java kde mariadb pdfimport -accessibility -bluetooth -branding > -coinmp -debug -eds -firebird -googledrive -gstreamer -gtk2 -ldap -odk > -postgres -test" LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="-nlpsolver -scripting-beanshell > -scripting-javascript -wiki-publisher" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_6 > -python3_7 -python3_8" 233,805 KiB > > Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 233,805 KiB > > Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] n > > Quitting. > > root@fireball / # equery list -po libreoffice > * Searching for libreoffice ... > [-P-] [ ] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.4.2-r1:0 > [IP-] [ ] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.5.2:0 > [-P-] [ -] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.:0 > [-P-] [ -] app-office/libreoffice-:0 > root@fireball / # > > > Anyone have a clue how to fix this? > > Thanks. > > Dale > > :-) :-) I haven't looked into how LO works, but it may have something to do with the tonne of JavaScript HTML pages contain these days and how this is processed/ filtered. When I try it here it works for small amounts of text/pics, but unlike your LO, I do not have java installed as a dependency. An alternative you could try is to save the page as HTML - File/Save Page As. Then select one of the options to save it as below, which when you open with LO does not take long to process. If you select 'HTML page complete' it will save all JS and images in a separate folder, which you could delete thereafter, or repurpose as you see fit. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Libreoffice and pasting HTML from web pages.
Howdy, I don't use LOo a whole lot but several months ago, I noticed a problem. Sometimes I go to a electronic type website that has info on circuits and how something works. Those pages usually contain text, pics and such. I highlight what contains the info I want, which may include some things I don't, then copy it to my clipboard. I then go to LOo and paste it as HTML since that's what it is. Once pasted, I remove things I don't want, such as social media icons and other unwanted things. I also make some images larger, make text larger and such as well. When I get it right, I print it as a pdf file or save it as a LOo document. That's how I did it in the past. When I would paste the contents, it would include images and all and would be done in seconds, well under a minute for sure. When I paste the content now, it doesn't include pics. The boxes is there and text for the link to the image but no image. It also locks LOo up for minutes. If I try to scroll up or down, it locks up again. Even with all that, it never loads the images. I end up killing the process. I think this started when the 6.3.* versions came out. I would normally go back to a older version but those are no longer in the tree. I'm wondering if a USE flag could make it work again. I used euse -i to see what each flag does but I'm not seeing anything that would change it. What I think the problem could be, LOo can't reach the network anymore. In the past when I pasted content, I could see activity on the network. I think LOo was fetching the pics and maybe even some other info as well. Thing is, I don't see why it can't now. Again, USE flag maybe??? Here is the info for libreoffice. root@fireball / # emerge -av libreoffice These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ~] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.5.2::gentoo USE="cups dbus gtk java kde mariadb pdfimport -accessibility -bluetooth -branding -coinmp -debug -eds -firebird -googledrive -gstreamer -gtk2 -ldap -odk -postgres -test" LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="-nlpsolver -scripting-beanshell -scripting-javascript -wiki-publisher" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_6 -python3_7 -python3_8" 233,805 KiB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 233,805 KiB Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] n Quitting. root@fireball / # equery list -po libreoffice * Searching for libreoffice ... [-P-] [ ] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.4.2-r1:0 [IP-] [ ] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.5.2:0 [-P-] [ -] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.:0 [-P-] [ -] app-office/libreoffice-:0 root@fireball / # Anyone have a clue how to fix this? Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
