Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 00:59:33 +0100, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > How does a restarted emerge @world recognizes packages, which are > > already compiled according to the new standard? > > I “circumvent” those questions by doing: > emerge -pveD world > worldlist > emerge -1O $(cat worldlist) >

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

On Sun, Dec 03, 2017 at 04:26:55AM +0100, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > If the compilation will fail at a certain point (and it will fail, > since this is a complete new thing) -- would it be possible to resume > even some tweaks, hacks and patches (even certain recompilations) > would be needed in

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

Am 2017-12-04 um 21:21 schrieb Michael Orlitzky: > Once the profile is deprecated (not yet), you've got six months. > > Keep in mind that a profile isn't actually all that complicated. It > consists mainly of a few small text files, and can likely be copied > locally just like you would with an

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

On 12/04/2017 12:48 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > On 12/03/2017 03:30 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > >> However, you can delay switching to the new profile for a while. > > For how long? > > eselect news item tells me: > > "Please migrate away from the 13.0 profiles within the six weeks

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

On 12/03/2017 03:30 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > However, you can delay switching to the new profile for a while. For how long? eselect news item tells me: "Please migrate away from the 13.0 profiles within the six weeks after GCC 6.4.0 has been stabilized on your architecture. The 13.0

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 02:18:30AM +0100, Heiko Baums wrote > Some packages already failed to build but I don't know yet which. But > usually `emerge --keep-going` prints a list of the failed packages at > the end. If you've got it set up, try... ll -rt /var/log/portage/elog/ -- Walter Dnes

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

Am Sun, 3 Dec 2017 19:08:25 -0600 schrieb Dale : > I hope that makes sense because it can be rather complicated if it > doesn't click as to what I'm describing.  It does. > Based on all the threads, I'm sticking with the old profile until next > week or maybe two weeks. 

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Sun, 3 Dec 2017 06:55:59 -0600 > schrieb Dale : > >> I hope I understood what you meant with all this.  I disturbed quite a >> few electrons and stuff with this.  lol > I think you understood what I meant even if I didn't think about doing > some other

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 15:39:31 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote: > But it's actually "--keep-going y". y is the default, so "--keep-going" and "--keep-going y" do the same thing. -- Neil Bothwick Drive not ready: (R)etry (G)o to Impulse (C)all Engineering pgpAV8PgaVH97.pgp Description: OpenPGP

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

On Sunday, 3 December 2017 14:39:31 GMT Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Sun, 3 Dec 2017 15:16:26 +0100 > > schrieb tu...@posteo.de: > > what is about emerge -e @world --keep-going > > instead? > > That would do something like a --resume --skipfirst automatically with > the difference that it first

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

Am Sun, 3 Dec 2017 15:16:26 +0100 schrieb tu...@posteo.de: > what is about emerge -e @world --keep-going > instead? That would do something like a --resume --skipfirst automatically with the difference that it first recalculates the dependency tree in case another package would depend on the

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

Am Sun, 3 Dec 2017 09:09:37 -0500 schrieb "Spackman, Chris" : > emerge --resume --skipfirst `emerge --resume --skipfirst` is necessary if you don't use --keep-going y, a package fails to build and you want to manually resume the actual emerge. Not using --skipfirst wouldn't

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

Am Sun, 3 Dec 2017 06:55:59 -0600 schrieb Dale : > I hope I understood what you meant with all this.  I disturbed quite a > few electrons and stuff with this.  lol I think you understood what I meant even if I didn't think about doing some other stuff with emerge in between

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

On 12/03 09:09, Spackman, Chris wrote: > On 2017/12/03 at 06:55am, Dale wrote: > > > I think I get what you are saying.  If for example you start a > > emerge -e world, a emerge -uDN world or something and then stop it > > before it finishes, running emerge --resume should pick up where you > >

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

On 2017/12/03 at 06:55am, Dale wrote: > I think I get what you are saying.  If for example you start a > emerge -e world, a emerge -uDN world or something and then stop it > before it finishes, running emerge --resume should pick up where you > left off. Another helpful option, which I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Sun, 03 Dec 2017 09:53:21 + > schrieb Peter Humphrey : > >> On Sunday, 3 December 2017 04:15:25 GMT Heiko Baums wrote: >> >>> Like I said before. emerge always calculates the dependency tree, >>> which is a lot faster in case of `emerge -e @world`

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

Am Sun, 03 Dec 2017 09:53:21 + schrieb Peter Humphrey : > On Sunday, 3 December 2017 04:15:25 GMT Heiko Baums wrote: > > > Like I said before. emerge always calculates the dependency tree, > > which is a lot faster in case of `emerge -e @world` than in case of > >

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 04:45:59 +0100, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Suppose one would do an emerge @world...and then BOOOM! a powerfailyre > would stop the whole thing. Further suppose the filesystem, the > hardware and anything has survived luckily -- only emerge @world needs > to be restarted. > And

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

On Sunday, 3 December 2017 04:15:25 GMT Heiko Baums wrote: > Like I said before. emerge always calculates the dependency tree, which > is a lot faster in case of `emerge -e @world` than in case of `emerge > -uDN @world`. And then it knows which packages have already been > installed and which are

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

> How can I check, whether a binary is "PIE"-conform ("pie-conform" is > a freaky funny language hack :) ;) ) ? > emerge hardening-check # hardening-check /usr/bin/cpuid2cpuflags /usr/bin/cpuid2cpuflags: Position Independent Executable: yes Stack protected: yes Fortify Source functions: yes

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

Am Sun, 3 Dec 2017 04:45:59 +0100 schrieb tu...@posteo.de: > Suppose one would do an emerge @world...and then BOOOM! a powerfailyre > would stop the whole thing. In such a case you should consider buying a UPS. Can't you do this over night or a weekend? And how often do you have a power

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

Am Sun, 3 Dec 2017 04:26:55 +0100 schrieb tu...@posteo.de: > Delaying would not solve the problem as it is... Btw., if you're using the testing tree (e.g. ~amd64) you should do a gcc upgrade instead of rebuilding gcc as the news item says. Unfortunately the news item explicitly mentions

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

On 12/03 04:35, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Sun, 3 Dec 2017 04:26:55 +0100 > schrieb tu...@posteo.de: > > > If the compilation will fail at a certain point (and it will fail, > > since this is a complete new thing) -- would it be possible to resume > > even some tweaks, hacks and patches (even

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

Am Sun, 3 Dec 2017 04:26:55 +0100 schrieb tu...@posteo.de: > If the compilation will fail at a certain point (and it will fail, > since this is a complete new thing) -- would it be possible to resume > even some tweaks, hacks and patches (even certain recompilations) > would be needed in between?

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

On 12/02 09:30, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/02/2017 09:15 PM, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > Hi, > > > > the instruction of the news item about the swicth to profile 17 says > > that one needs to rebuild @world. > > > > Is this technically needed? > > Yes, unless you were already using a

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

On 12/02/2017 09:32 PM, Adam Carter wrote: > > Does having the hardened USE flag enabled = having a hardened toolchain? If only it were that simple... what you really need to know is, did you build everything on your system with PIE enabled? * Some packages have "pie" USE flags, and it's only

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/02/2017 09:15 PM, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > Hi, > > > > the instruction of the news item about the swicth to profile 17 says > > that one needs to rebuild @world. > > > > Is this technically needed? > > Yes, unless

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

On 12/02/2017 09:15 PM, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Hi, > > the instruction of the news item about the swicth to profile 17 says > that one needs to rebuild @world. > > Is this technically needed? Yes, unless you were already using a hardened toolchain. > Would it be possible to do this on base

[gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

Hi, the instruction of the news item about the swicth to profile 17 says that one needs to rebuild @world. Is this technically needed? Would it be possible to do this on base of the daily updates intead all in one go? Background: I simply need my PC more often as it would allow me to wait (and