[gentoo-user] No title bars in gnome!

2007-08-19 Thread Michael Sullivan
I hope this goes through.  In the recent past, thread-beginning posts
sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] get lost in
the mail.  Replies go through fine, but original threads don't.  If you
see this, this one didn't get lost.

I've been gone for a couple of weeks (from August 5 to August 16), so
when I got back there were a lot of packages that needed to be upgraded.
I completed the upgrades on my PC a couple of days ago.  I rebooted into
Windows XP today and when I came back and logged into GNOME, no programs
had title bars, and I couldn't Alt+TAB between them.  How can I fix
this?  How can I even find out exactly what package is causing the
problem?  When I log in, I get a message - something about
accessibility, but everything else seems normal except for the lack of
title bars.  I'm typing this is KDE, but I prefer GNOME.  Please help!
I use gnome-2-18-2-r1:

camille ~ # emerge -pv gnome

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/gnome-2.18.2-r1  USE=cdr cups dvdr
-accessibility -ldap -mono 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB

My emerge info is:

camille ~ # emerge --info
Portage 2.1.2.11 (default-linux/x86/no-nptl, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.5-r4,
2.6.21-gentoo-r4 i686)
=
System uname: 2.6.21-gentoo-r4 i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz
Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9
Timestamp of tree: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:30:01 +
distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632)
[disabled]
dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.33-r1
dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r4
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6
sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.61
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2,
1.10
sys-devel/binutils:  2.17
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.16
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.23b
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.21
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
AUTOCLEAN=yes
CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config 
/usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/bind
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf 
/etc/php/apache2-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/apache2-php5/ext-active/ 
/etc/php/cgi-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active/ 
/etc/php/cli-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild 
/etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c
CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
FEATURES=distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo;
LINGUAS=en fr es
MAKEOPTS=-j2
PKGDIR=/usr/portage-packages/camille
PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS=--human-readable
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times
--compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats
--timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages
--filter=H_**/files/digest-*
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
PORTDIR=/usr/portage
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
USE=X alsa apache2 apm arts asterisk audiofile avi bash-completion
berkdb bind-mysql bitmap-fonts browserplugin bzip2 candy cdr cgi cli
cracklib crypt ctype cups dba dbus divx4linux doc dri dvb dvd dvdr
dvdread eds emboss encode examples expat f77 ffmpeg flash foomaticdb
fortran ftp gdbm gif glut gnome gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 guile hal
iconv imap imlib ipv6 isdnlog ithreads ivtv jack jack-tempfs java jikes
joystick jpeg kde kerberos lib libclamav libg++ libwww lirc mad midi
mikmod mmx mmx2 mmxext mode-owner motif mp3 mpeg mpm-leader mudflap
mysql mythtv nas nautilus ncurses new-login nls nntp nsplugin offensive
ogg oggvorbis opengl openmp oss pam pcre pdf perl php png portaudio ppds
pppd python qt qt3 qt4 quicktime readline real reflection ruby samba
sasl sdl seamonkey session slp snmp spell spl sql ssl svga syslog tcl
tcltk tcpd threads tidy truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode usb
userlocales v4l v4l2 vorbis win32codecs x86 xml xml2 xorg xv zaptel
zlib ALSA_CARDS=hda-intel ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix
dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat
linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol
ELIBC=glibc INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev KERNEL=linux
LCD_DEVICES=bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb
ncurses text LINGUAS=en fr es USERLAND=GNU VIDEO_CARDS=apm ark
chips cirrus cyrix dummy fbdev glint i128 i740 i810 imstt mach64 mga
neomagic nsc nv r128 radeon rendition s3 s3virge savage siliconmotion
sis sisusb tdfx tga trident tseng v4l vesa vga via vmware voodoo
Unset:  CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL,
LDFLAGS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS


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Re: [gentoo-user] No title bars in gnome!

2007-08-19 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 19 August 2007, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about '[gentoo-user] No title bars in gnome!':
 I logged into GNOME, no programs
 had title bars, and I couldn't Alt+TAB between them.  How can I fix
 this?  How can I even find out exactly what package is causing the
 problem?  When I log in, I get a message - something about
 accessibility, but everything else seems normal except for the lack of
 title bars.

This is usually caused by a missing/crashing/failing window manager.  The 
default window manager in Gnome is metacity (IIRC).  If you use 
compiz/beryl/compiz-fusion, this may be separated into a different program 
called the window decorator.  The perferred window decorator for Gnome is 
heliodor (IIRC).

Since your KDE window manager seems to work, you should be able to start 
gnome and then start:
kwin --replace
on the same display to get a more functional Gnome desktop.

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Re: [gentoo-user] No title bars in gnome!

2007-08-19 Thread James Ausmus
On 8/19/07, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I hope this goes through.  In the recent past, thread-beginning posts
 sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] get lost in
 the mail.  Replies go through fine, but original threads don't.  If you
 see this, this one didn't get lost.

 I've been gone for a couple of weeks (from August 5 to August 16), so
 when I got back there were a lot of packages that needed to be upgraded.
 I completed the upgrades on my PC a couple of days ago.  I rebooted into
 Windows XP today and when I came back and logged into GNOME, no programs
 had title bars, and I couldn't Alt+TAB between them.  How can I fix
 this?

Sounds like the window manager isn't running - whenever you can't do
normal things with open windows, then you have window manager
problems. The standard window manager for gnome is nautilus - I'd
recommend opening a terminal window and just typing:

nautilus

and see what error messages you get. If you get your normal window
decorations back (title bar, etc.), then for some reason gnome isn't
starting nautilus by default - check your session/program autostart
settings. If you do get errors, then either just re-emerge nautilus,
or run a revdep-rebuild, and it will probably catch the issue.

The reason you didn't see the issue post-upgrade until after you had
rebooted, is that the previous (working) version of nautilus had been
resident in memory, but the on-disk copy is broken somehow - probably
a library dependency got updated.

HTH-

James


How can I even find out exactly what package is causing the
 problem?  When I log in, I get a message - something about
 accessibility, but everything else seems normal except for the lack of
 title bars.  I'm typing this is KDE, but I prefer GNOME.  Please help!
 I use gnome-2-18-2-r1:

 camille ~ # emerge -pv gnome

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/gnome-2.18.2-r1  USE=cdr cups dvdr
 -accessibility -ldap -mono 0 kB

 Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB

 My emerge info is:

 camille ~ # emerge --info
 Portage 2.1.2.11 (default-linux/x86/no-nptl, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.5-r4,
 2.6.21-gentoo-r4 i686)
 =
 System uname: 2.6.21-gentoo-r4 i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz
 Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9
 Timestamp of tree: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:30:01 +
 distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632)
 [disabled]
 dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.33-r1
 dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r4
 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6
 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17
 sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.61
 sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2,
 1.10
 sys-devel/binutils:  2.17
 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.16
 sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.23b
 virtual/os-headers:  2.6.21
 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
 AUTOCLEAN=yes
 CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu
 CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer
 CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
 CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config 
 /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/bind
 CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf 
 /etc/php/apache2-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/apache2-php5/ext-active/ 
 /etc/php/cgi-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active/ 
 /etc/php/cli-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/ 
 /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c
 CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer
 DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
 FEATURES=distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict
 GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo;
 LINGUAS=en fr es
 MAKEOPTS=-j2
 PKGDIR=/usr/portage-packages/camille
 PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS=--human-readable
 PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times
 --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats
 --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages
 --filter=H_**/files/digest-*
 PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
 PORTDIR=/usr/portage
 PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
 SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
 USE=X alsa apache2 apm arts asterisk audiofile avi bash-completion
 berkdb bind-mysql bitmap-fonts browserplugin bzip2 candy cdr cgi cli
 cracklib crypt ctype cups dba dbus divx4linux doc dri dvb dvd dvdr
 dvdread eds emboss encode examples expat f77 ffmpeg flash foomaticdb
 fortran ftp gdbm gif glut gnome gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 guile hal
 iconv imap imlib ipv6 isdnlog ithreads ivtv jack jack-tempfs java jikes
 joystick jpeg kde kerberos lib libclamav libg++ libwww lirc mad midi
 mikmod mmx mmx2 mmxext mode-owner motif mp3 mpeg mpm-leader mudflap
 mysql mythtv nas nautilus ncurses new-login nls nntp nsplugin offensive
 ogg oggvorbis opengl openmp oss pam pcre pdf perl php png portaudio ppds
 pppd python qt qt3 qt4 quicktime readline real reflection ruby samba
 sasl sdl seamonkey session slp snmp spell spl sql ssl svga syslog tcl
 

Re: [gentoo-user] No title bars in gnome!

2007-08-19 Thread James Ausmus
On 8/19/07, James Ausmus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 8/19/07, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I hope this goes through.  In the recent past, thread-beginning posts
  sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] get lost in
  the mail.  Replies go through fine, but original threads don't.  If you
  see this, this one didn't get lost.
 
  I've been gone for a couple of weeks (from August 5 to August 16), so
  when I got back there were a lot of packages that needed to be upgraded.
  I completed the upgrades on my PC a couple of days ago.  I rebooted into
  Windows XP today and when I came back and logged into GNOME, no programs
  had title bars, and I couldn't Alt+TAB between them.  How can I fix
  this?

 Sounds like the window manager isn't running - whenever you can't do
 normal things with open windows, then you have window manager
 problems. The standard window manager for gnome is nautilus - I'd

Whoops - make that metacity - guess I shouldn't be posting when I'm
sick in bed...

Sorry. :)

s/nautilus/metacity/g

 recommend opening a terminal window and just typing:

 nautilus

 and see what error messages you get. If you get your normal window
 decorations back (title bar, etc.), then for some reason gnome isn't
 starting nautilus by default - check your session/program autostart
 settings. If you do get errors, then either just re-emerge nautilus,
 or run a revdep-rebuild, and it will probably catch the issue.

 The reason you didn't see the issue post-upgrade until after you had
 rebooted, is that the previous (working) version of nautilus had been
 resident in memory, but the on-disk copy is broken somehow - probably
 a library dependency got updated.

 HTH-

 James


 How can I even find out exactly what package is causing the
  problem?  When I log in, I get a message - something about
  accessibility, but everything else seems normal except for the lack of
  title bars.  I'm typing this is KDE, but I prefer GNOME.  Please help!
  I use gnome-2-18-2-r1:
 
  camille ~ # emerge -pv gnome
 
  These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
  Calculating dependencies... done!
  [ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/gnome-2.18.2-r1  USE=cdr cups dvdr
  -accessibility -ldap -mono 0 kB
 
  Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
 
  My emerge info is:
 
  camille ~ # emerge --info
  Portage 2.1.2.11 (default-linux/x86/no-nptl, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.5-r4,
  2.6.21-gentoo-r4 i686)
  =
  System uname: 2.6.21-gentoo-r4 i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz
  Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9
  Timestamp of tree: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:30:01 +
  distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632)
  [disabled]
  dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.33-r1
  dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r4
  dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6
  sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17
  sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.61
  sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2,
  1.10
  sys-devel/binutils:  2.17
  sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.16
  sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.23b
  virtual/os-headers:  2.6.21
  ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
  AUTOCLEAN=yes
  CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu
  CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer
  CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
  CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config 
  /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/bind
  CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf 
  /etc/php/apache2-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/apache2-php5/ext-active/ 
  /etc/php/cgi-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active/ 
  /etc/php/cli-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/ 
  /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c
  CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer
  DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
  FEATURES=distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict
  GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo;
  LINGUAS=en fr es
  MAKEOPTS=-j2
  PKGDIR=/usr/portage-packages/camille
  PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS=--human-readable
  PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times
  --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats
  --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages
  --filter=H_**/files/digest-*
  PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
  PORTDIR=/usr/portage
  PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
  SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
  USE=X alsa apache2 apm arts asterisk audiofile avi bash-completion
  berkdb bind-mysql bitmap-fonts browserplugin bzip2 candy cdr cgi cli
  cracklib crypt ctype cups dba dbus divx4linux doc dri dvb dvd dvdr
  dvdread eds emboss encode examples expat f77 ffmpeg flash foomaticdb
  fortran ftp gdbm gif glut gnome gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 guile hal
  iconv imap imlib ipv6 isdnlog ithreads ivtv jack jack-tempfs java jikes
  joystick jpeg kde kerberos lib libclamav libg++ libwww lirc mad midi
  mikmod mmx mmx2 mmxext mode-owner motif mp3 mpeg mpm-leader mudflap
  mysql mythtv nas 

Re: [gentoo-user] No title bars in gnome! [SOLVED]

2007-08-19 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 18:41 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 This is usually caused by a missing/crashing/failing window manager.  The 
 default window manager in Gnome is metacity (IIRC).  If you use 
 compiz/beryl/compiz-fusion, this may be separated into a different program 
 called the window decorator.  The perferred window decorator for Gnome is 
 heliodor (IIRC).
 
 Since your KDE window manager seems to work, you should be able to start 
 gnome and then start:
 kwin --replace
 on the same display to get a more functional Gnome desktop.
 
Yeah, metacity went bad.  I reran it and my title bars came back.  Thank
you!
-Michael Sullivan-

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