Re: [gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment
I also use awesome, but have tried KDE 3 and 4, Gnome 2 and 3, XFCE, LXDE and some others. I found out that I want to know what are the programs that I run, so the meta + r shortcut combines perfectly, and make me think about what is that launcher software, that compositing software, that pdf viewer, that file manager, etc.
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: So, while we're meta-discussing Linus' rant on Gnome3, here's an article from TechRadar exploring the usability of the leading Linux desktop environments. http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/whats-the-best-linux-desktop-environment-1045280 Summary: Try the latest KDE. You might get pleasantly surprised. I use KDE on my desktop (fast CPU, can afford to compile Qt+KDE stuff). But honestly the only KDE apps I really use are Konsole, Okular and whatever app it is that pops up when you press Alt-F2. I don't use widgets or activities, never used Dolphin, etc. 99% of the time my desktop is fullscreen Konsole with a bunch of tabs open (mostly with MC running in them). I use Xfce on my old laptop (Athlon64 3000+ CPU). Default theme with the rat. I don't use Konsole so I can avoid compiling Qt/KDE. Use the Xfce terminal instead. I use LXDE when a minimalistic (but modern and user-friendly) X environment is needed. I've never used Gnome in daily life on my own computers and my total experience with it is limited to Live CDs or troubleshooting other peoples' computers. In the olden days (to me) I liked to use Windowmaker in Slackware on my 90MHz Pentium. ;)
[gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment
So, while we're meta-discussing Linus' rant on Gnome3, here's an article from TechRadar exploring the usability of the leading Linux desktop environments. http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/whats-the-best-linux-desktop-environment-1045280 Summary: Try the latest KDE. You might get pleasantly surprised. Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: So, while we're meta-discussing Linus' rant on Gnome3, here's an article from TechRadar exploring the usability of the leading Linux desktop environments. http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/whats-the-best-linux-desktop-environment-1045280 Summary: Try the latest KDE. You might get pleasantly surprised. In my humble opinion, you should use whatever you actually like. You don't like GNOME? Then don't use it; and if you used it before and don't like the new version, either get involver to get it fixed (for whatever defintion of fixed you want), fork it (although maybe you should first try Unity, MATE, or Cinnamon before), or go to another desktop. I like GNOME 3, therefore I use it. I like systemd, therefore I use it. I like Emacs, therefore I use it. If someone else wants to use KDE, OpenRC, and Vim, it's none of my business. To each his own. There is no best desktop environment. There are only preferences. I like GNOME 3 a lot, and (in my personal case) it has helped me to actually improve my productivity in my what I do; other users may experience the opposite, even if they do exactly the same things I do. Other users maybe do something completely different, and they may also benefit from GNOME 3. Really, use whatever floats your boat. And if you don't like a particular software (or developer, or design), then simply don't use it. I really, really, *really* don't like KDE. I have never done (and I tried versions 1, 2, and 3; I lost interest in trying for version 4); but I have *never* told anyone that they should not use it, nor criticized their users and developers. It's none of my business; I don't like it, therefore I don't use it. Entre los individuos, como entre las naciones, el respeto al derecho ajeno es la paz. Among individuals, as among nations, respect for the rights of others is peace. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment
Re CAA2qdGUzjvpsZ6bB7oTHTKDo+HFC95Ma+PraEZOQzVtED5ESfw@mail.gmail.comcaa2qdguzjvpsz6bb7othtkdo+hfc95ma+praezoqzvted5e...@mail.gmail.com, Canek Peláez Valdés said: Really, use whatever floats your boat. And if you don't like a particular software (or developer, or design), then simply don't use it. That's the really nice thing about the Linux platform. You have choices. But it seems to be human nature that as soon as you have choices people will argue over what's best. But I like choices. This is also why I use Gentoo Linux. :-) BTW, I recently eradicated Gnome from my systems. I'm strictly XFCE now. I'm happy and thankful to the xfce developers to have that choice. -- Keith -- -- ~ Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz public key: ID: 19017044 http://www.dartworks.biz/ =
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment
Am Sonntag, 17. Juni 2012, 11:52:48 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: So, while we're meta-discussing Linus' rant on Gnome3, here's an article from TechRadar exploring the usability of the leading Linux desktop environments. http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/whats-the-best-li nux-desktop-environment-1045280 Summary: Try the latest KDE. You might get pleasantly surprised. In my humble opinion, you should use whatever you actually like. You don't like GNOME? Then don't use it; and if you used it before and don't like the new version, either get involver to get it fixed (for whatever defintion of fixed you want), fork it (although maybe you should first try Unity, MATE, or Cinnamon before), or go to another desktop. I like GNOME 3, therefore I use it. I like systemd, therefore I use it. I like Emacs, therefore I use it. If someone else wants to use KDE, OpenRC, and Vim, it's none of my business. To each his own. one question - how can you call something that doesn't even let you change the fonts call a 'desktop environment'? -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 17. Juni 2012, 11:52:48 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: So, while we're meta-discussing Linus' rant on Gnome3, here's an article from TechRadar exploring the usability of the leading Linux desktop environments. http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/whats-the-best-li nux-desktop-environment-1045280 Summary: Try the latest KDE. You might get pleasantly surprised. In my humble opinion, you should use whatever you actually like. You don't like GNOME? Then don't use it; and if you used it before and don't like the new version, either get involver to get it fixed (for whatever defintion of fixed you want), fork it (although maybe you should first try Unity, MATE, or Cinnamon before), or go to another desktop. I like GNOME 3, therefore I use it. I like systemd, therefore I use it. I like Emacs, therefore I use it. If someone else wants to use KDE, OpenRC, and Vim, it's none of my business. To each his own. one question - how can you call something that doesn't even let you change the fonts call a 'desktop environment'? -- #163933 Ignoring the fact that I *can* change the font, why should I have to? It's fine as it is for me ;).
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 17. Juni 2012, 11:52:48 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: So, while we're meta-discussing Linus' rant on Gnome3, here's an article from TechRadar exploring the usability of the leading Linux desktop environments. http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/whats-the-best-li nux-desktop-environment-1045280 Summary: Try the latest KDE. You might get pleasantly surprised. In my humble opinion, you should use whatever you actually like. You don't like GNOME? Then don't use it; and if you used it before and don't like the new version, either get involver to get it fixed (for whatever defintion of fixed you want), fork it (although maybe you should first try Unity, MATE, or Cinnamon before), or go to another desktop. I like GNOME 3, therefore I use it. I like systemd, therefore I use it. I like Emacs, therefore I use it. If someone else wants to use KDE, OpenRC, and Vim, it's none of my business. To each his own. one question - how can you call something that doesn't even let you change the fonts call a 'desktop environment'? Really? I try to write a conciliatory post about how we should respect each others preferences and that's the first thing you respond? To all of us who actually believe that everyone has the right to like whatever they choose, please don't feed the trolls. The intent of my post was exactly to prevent flame wars. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: So, while we're meta-discussing Linus' rant on Gnome3, here's an article from TechRadar exploring the usability of the leading Linux desktop environments. http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/whats-the-best-linux-desktop-environment-1045280 Summary: Try the latest KDE. You might get pleasantly surprised. For me? I like using awesomewm where I can, though sometimes I switch to XFCE where useful. KDE isn't bad, except for compile times; I'm not enough of a KDE power user to really be affected by the differences between KDE3 and KDE4. I tend to recommend LXDE, XFCE or GNOME to Linux newcomers, depending on where they're coming from. LXDE is an excellent choice if the newbie hails from WinXP, for example. XFCE is reasonable for Mac or late-model Windows users. GNOME (either 2 or 3) is reasonable for low-end users. I don't deal with many I don't want to touch it users, but for those, I found netbook-oriented window managers work best. The less the user has to think about the interface, the more they can get on to complaining about apps. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:52:48AM -0500, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote In my humble opinion, you should use whatever you actually like. You don't like GNOME? Then don't use it; and if you used it before and don't like the new version, either get involver to get it fixed (for whatever defintion of fixed you want), fork it (although maybe you should first try Unity, MATE, or Cinnamon before), or go to another desktop. My attitude towards KDE and GNOME is the pox on both their houses; I don't run desktops, I run applications. I use ICEWM with my most-used apps in the launch menu and launchbar. Desktop users moving to LXDE or XFCE is perfectly understandable. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment
On Jun 17, 2012 11:57 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: So, while we're meta-discussing Linus' rant on Gnome3, here's an article from TechRadar exploring the usability of the leading Linux desktop environments. http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/whats-the-best-linux-desktop-environment-1045280 Summary: Try the latest KDE. You might get pleasantly surprised. In my humble opinion, you should use whatever you actually like. You don't like GNOME? Then don't use it; and if you used it before and don't like the new version, either get involver to get it fixed (for whatever defintion of fixed you want), fork it (although maybe you should first try Unity, MATE, or Cinnamon before), or go to another desktop. I like GNOME 3, therefore I use it. I like systemd, therefore I use it. I like Emacs, therefore I use it. If someone else wants to use KDE, OpenRC, and Vim, it's none of my business. To each his own. There is no best desktop environment. There are only preferences. Agree. Which is why I wrote the word Best between single quotes. The whole sentence itself comes from the original title of the article; the single quotes are mine. Rgds,
