Re: [gentoo-user] Performing a backup during the boot sequence

2010-05-26 Thread Daniel Troeder
On 05/26/2010 12:30 AM, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 For quite a while I have used the following steps to perform a
 single-user backup
 
 1.  Boot to single user mode via the grub command
 kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6 single
 
 2.  Type in the root password.
 
 3.  Execute a single command
/usr/local/sbin/ajg-backup-init-3
 which does the backup and then executes
init 3
 
 4.  This gets me to multi-user mode.
 
 I would like to automate this so that booting directly to multi-user
 mode via
 kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6
 
 All I need to do is to execute the single command
/usr/local/sbin/ajg-backup-init-3
 at the right moment.
 This didn't seem hard; I want it after everything in boot but before
 everything currently in default.  So I was going to put it in
 default with a before * in depend()
 
 Reading the gentoo handbook chapter B4.d Writing Init Scripts
 I find two comments criticizing this approach
 
 1.  You can also use the * glob [argument to before] to catch all
 services in the same runlevel, although this isn't advisable.
 
 2.  Note: Make sure that --exec actually calls a service and not just a
 shell script that launches services and exits -- that's what the
 init script is supposed to do.
 
 I can see problems with multiple before * directives, but no other
 script has one so I think I would be OK with my before *.
 
 Criticism 2 has me concerned since my backup routing is indeed a shell
 script that exits.  Indeed, my backup is not really a service so I am
 worried that I shouldn't be using an initscript at all.
 
 Any advice/comments would be welcome.
 
 thanks,
 allan
 
 
You could create a LVM-snapshot of the partition/data you wish to backup
at before * or inside boot and then later run the backup on the
mounted snapshot, removing it afterwards.

Bye,
Daniel

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Re: [gentoo-user] Performing a backup during the boot sequence

2010-05-26 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Wed, 26 May 2010 17:17:45 +0200 Daniel Troeder dan...@admin-box.com wrote:

 On 05/26/2010 12:30 AM, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 For quite a while I have used the following steps to perform a
 single-user backup
 
 1.  Boot to single user mode via the grub command
 kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6 single
 
 2.  Type in the root password.
 
 3.  Execute a single command
/usr/local/sbin/ajg-backup-init-3
 which does the backup and then executes
init 3
 
 4.  This gets me to multi-user mode.
 
 I would like to automate this so that booting directly to multi-user
 mode via
 kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6
 
 All I need to do is to execute the single command
/usr/local/sbin/ajg-backup-init-3
 at the right moment.
 This didn't seem hard; I want it after everything in boot but before
 everything currently in default.  So I was going to put it in
 default with a before * in depend()
 
 Reading the gentoo handbook chapter B4.d Writing Init Scripts
 I find two comments criticizing this approach
 
 1.  You can also use the * glob [argument to before] to catch all
 services in the same runlevel, although this isn't advisable.
 
 2.  Note: Make sure that --exec actually calls a service and not just a
 shell script that launches services and exits -- that's what the
 init script is supposed to do.
 
 I can see problems with multiple before * directives, but no other
 script has one so I think I would be OK with my before *.
 
 Criticism 2 has me concerned since my backup routing is indeed a shell
 script that exits.  Indeed, my backup is not really a service so I am
 worried that I shouldn't be using an initscript at all.
 
 Any advice/comments would be welcome.
 
 You could create a LVM-snapshot of the partition/data you wish to backup
 at before * or inside boot and then later run the backup on the
 mounted snapshot, removing it afterwards.

Thanks, but I am not trying to minimize the boot time.  The disk to disk
dumps are fast enough (I do the slower copy to a remote site after
logged in).  I am just trying to have the dump done at the right point
in the boot sequence without manually going into single user mode.  If I
could automate the snapshot, I could automate the dump.

Indeed rereading the gentoo manual, I see that the requirement that you
invoke a service and not a script that exits, applies only to
start-stop-daemon, so I will just try to invoke my script directly from
the init script.

allan



[gentoo-user] Performing a backup during the boot sequence

2010-05-25 Thread Allan Gottlieb
For quite a while I have used the following steps to perform a
single-user backup

1.  Boot to single user mode via the grub command
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6 single

2.  Type in the root password.

3.  Execute a single command
   /usr/local/sbin/ajg-backup-init-3
which does the backup and then executes
   init 3

4.  This gets me to multi-user mode.

I would like to automate this so that booting directly to multi-user
mode via
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6

All I need to do is to execute the single command
   /usr/local/sbin/ajg-backup-init-3
at the right moment.
This didn't seem hard; I want it after everything in boot but before
everything currently in default.  So I was going to put it in
default with a before * in depend()

Reading the gentoo handbook chapter B4.d Writing Init Scripts
I find two comments criticizing this approach

1.  You can also use the * glob [argument to before] to catch all
services in the same runlevel, although this isn't advisable.

2.  Note: Make sure that --exec actually calls a service and not just a
shell script that launches services and exits -- that's what the
init script is supposed to do.

I can see problems with multiple before * directives, but no other
script has one so I think I would be OK with my before *.

Criticism 2 has me concerned since my backup routing is indeed a shell
script that exits.  Indeed, my backup is not really a service so I am
worried that I shouldn't be using an initscript at all.

Any advice/comments would be welcome.

thanks,
allan