[gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread Mark Knecht
I've had this come up a few times over the last few weeks. Every time I've done the command the emerge has failed somewhere along the way. Is this adding some value that I don't understand? What does it do that using revdep-rebuild doesn't? Granted, I have no way of knowing whether

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread Graham Murray
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com writes: Is this adding some value that I don't understand? What does it do that using revdep-rebuild doesn't? It allows the affected packages to continue working until the rebuild is done. With the 'old' revdep-rebuild, a program using a library whose version

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:20:00 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Is this adding some value that I don't understand? What does it do that using revdep-rebuild doesn't? revdep-rebuild fixes broken packages, @preserved-libs prevents the breakage in the first place. -- Neil Bothwick Use the Force, Luke,

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Graham Murray gra...@gmurray.org.uk wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com writes: Is this adding some value that I don't understand? What does it do that using revdep-rebuild doesn't? It allows the affected packages to continue working until the rebuild is

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 08 Januar 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:20:00 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Is this adding some value that I don't understand? What does it do that using revdep-rebuild doesn't? revdep-rebuild fixes broken packages, @preserved-libs prevents the breakage in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:20:00 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Is this adding some value that I don't understand? What does it do that using revdep-rebuild doesn't? revdep-rebuild fixes broken packages, @preserved-libs prevents

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:51:32 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: I guess then that the constant messages about doing an emerge @preserved-rebuild aren't necessarily to be followed, or at least not worried about if they fail as whatever program needs the libraries still has the old versions? They should

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:53:18 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: OK, so the programs aren't broken but in my case the libs aren't rebuilding since the emerge step fails. It's the programs that need to be rebuilt, against the newer libraries. What to do? Just sit and wait until someone updates something

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:51:32 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: I guess then that the constant messages about doing an emerge @preserved-rebuild aren't necessarily to be followed, or at least not worried about if they fail as

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:53:18 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: OK, so the programs aren't broken but in my case the libs aren't rebuilding since the emerge step fails. It's the programs that need to be rebuilt, against the newer

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread James Ausmus
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:51:32 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: I guess then that the constant messages about doing an emerge @preserved-rebuild aren't

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:07 AM, James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Right now I'm seeing that @preserved-rebuild and revdep-rebuild want to do different things. revdep-rebuild is rebuilding nss which may or may not fail. @preserved-rebuild wanted to rebuild eveolution which did

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:07 AM, James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Right now I'm seeing that @preserved-rebuild and revdep-rebuild want to do different things. revdep-rebuild is rebuilding nss which may or

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread James Ausmus
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:07 AM, James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Right now I'm seeing that @preserved-rebuild and

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:23 AM, James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com wrote: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: warning: libsoftokn3.so.11, needed by /usr/lib64/nss/libnss3.so.11, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link)

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread James Ausmus
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:23 AM, James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com wrote: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: warning: libsoftokn3.so.11, needed by

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:36 AM, James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:23 AM, James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread James Ausmus
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:36 AM, James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:23 AM, James Ausmus

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:45 AM, James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:36 AM, James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Mark Knecht

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread James Ausmus
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:45 AM, James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:36 AM, James Ausmus

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 05:47:15PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:20:00 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Is this adding some value that I don't understand? What does it do that using revdep-rebuild doesn't? revdep-rebuild fixes broken packages, @preserved-libs prevents the

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:02 PM, James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com wrote: NIP a ls /usr/lib/nss/libnss3*? lightning ~ # ls /usr/lib/nss/libnss3* /usr/lib/nss/libnss3.so /usr/lib/nss/libnss3.so.11 /usr/lib/nss/libnss3.so.12 lightning ~ # Aha! And which of the versioned .so's

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread James Ausmus
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:02 PM, James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com wrote: NIP a ls /usr/lib/nss/libnss3*? lightning ~ # ls /usr/lib/nss/libnss3* /usr/lib/nss/libnss3.so /usr/lib/nss/libnss3.so.11

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:21 PM, James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:02 PM, James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com wrote: NIP a ls /usr/lib/nss/libnss3*? lightning ~ # ls

Re: [gentoo-user] Please explain why this new 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' is good?

2009-01-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP I actually did an emerge -ef world already just to ensure everything is here. I'm considering the emerge -C nss, remove any links left over by hand, and then emerging evolution again and letting it pull it in and